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    Looks like it's going to be a close one... keeps going back and forth. 70% turnout.... that's better than any American election. Probably helps that you still use paper ballots, so people think their vote will actually be counted.
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    Never underestimate the fucking stupidity of people.

    In most votes there are arguments on one side or the other and you make your choices.

    This one was about bullshit. Both sides agreed that a vote to leave would lead to another recession and the devaluation of our currency.

    Both sides.

    The leave argument was that was a price worth paying in order to
    a) Fix immigration - exactly like the US a fictitious argument when you look at the actual numbers
    b) Get power back from the EU - a fictitious argument when you look at the facts.

    The only slight redeeming factor is that we're away from the worst of England because this shit isn't going to wash in Scotland. Lots of amazing great things about England but unfortunately the idiots are now in the majority there.

    It's like finding out your wife is cheating on you and you are going to have an expensive divorce but looking forward to better times in a few years.
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    So is this mostly a UKIP driven thing (UKIP being the British version of "teabaggers", for those who haven't heard of them) Or is it even more extreme than that, like the BNP skinhead types??

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    No UKIP got very few votes at the last election and remain low in the polls.

    This is like a case study for the USA and you should pay attention. False immigration fear played on by the right combined with disaffected blue collar classes voting against the status quo. The conservatives split between establishment and charismatic leadership.

    It's very similar to what is happening in your election and we just did a Trump...

    The lesson is don't let your dislike of Clinton let the real fuckwits take over.

    Look at our currency already falling through the floor - that could be you in November.

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    My state is a guaranteed electoral vote for whomever the "Democratic" nominee is, so I can vote against Hillary with a clean conscience, just like I voted against Obama in 2012. Where I might have to grab a barf bag while filling out the ballot is the Senate race. I absolutely cannot stand the thought of voting for Patty Murray again after she voted for SHAFTA and also was one of those pre-meditated Hillary superdelegates (committed to her BEFORE the primary and refuse to change her mind even after Bernie won this state 73% to 27%)

    But if that race is close, I might have to bow to the porcelain god

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    If you haven't booked a vacation yet come visit Britain this Summer and you can be a millionaire, the pound just collapsed.

    I may have to cancel next weeks family vacation at this end and let my US java developer who is a good friend go.

    I'm not happy. Actually I'm fucking raging.

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    So I hear the BBC has called it in favor of the secessionists, even though I'm still seeing a lot of blank spaces on the map at the Guardian page.

    How is the pound collapsing already? Asian markets? (I'm assuming the banksters in London are still in bed at this hour)

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    The only thing that's helping a little is that it is fucking up the Euro too.

    Book your european vacation now, things will no doubt stablize a little later but you will get it super cheap now.

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    It might well be cheaper, but I don't know if I want to get caught in a civil war....

    Speaking of which.. how long do you think it will be before Scottish independence is back on the ballot, since you guys were the one part of the island that was completely against the Brexit?

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    Shows it's easier to scare people than it is to motivate them.
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    This whole thing is huge. Biggest political thing in a lifetime level.

    I would think that Scotland would go for independance again now and will get it.

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    The new British flag??


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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Shows it's easier to scare people than it is to motivate them.

    That and most people are fucking idiots. They think that all beliefs are equal and are unable to work their way through data.

    Most times votes are grey, there are arguments on both sides including the Scottish referendum. This one was just plain fucking stupid. Their arguments were all plain lies or half truths.

    It's like Trump. People say they don't trust politicians so that allows some to just fucking make shit up completely and be on an equal basis.

    The leave campaign have been driving around in a big red bus with total snopes level completely no possible argument lies on the side of it all the way through the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The new British flag??

    Stick the head of a mentally subnormal racist old person in the middle of it...

    Most young people were against this.

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    And the consequences for Northern Ireland...
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    Double fucked.

    Although sometimes I wonder if a lot of them don't like it that way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Shows it's easier to scare people than it is to motivate them.
    Interesting that Sunderland was yes and you guys were no.

    You should come with us.

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    The main problem with the Trump thing here is that the corporate media is propping him 24/7, while systematically ignoring the TRUE populist candidate in the race (Bernie Sanders) so people are duped into thinking Trump is the only alternative to Hillary and the same old corporatist bullshit.

    Outside of a couple recent NBA games, I haven't watched a lot of UK TV lately, so I'm not sure how your media was playing this one. How were they covering the Brexit story, and was it a noticeable difference between say... BBC and the Murdoch Sky News?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katina View Post
    And the consequences for Northern Ireland...
    Maybe this would be a good time for them to go back to being Irish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post

    Outside of a couple recent NBA games, I haven't watched a lot of UK TV lately, so I'm not sure how your media was playing this one. How were they covering the Brexit story, and was it a noticeable difference between say... BBC and the Murdoch Sky News?
    Sky is a lot milder than Fox and has a much much lower share as it's a premium HBO type channel.

    It is still a bit to the right of mainstream, I have to say I dwatch it very rarely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Maybe this would be a good time for them to go back to being Irish?
    This is the fundamental misunderstanding a lot of people have about that problem. 60% detest the idea of being part of Ireland. Back at the height of the troubles at least Ireland didn't want them because they couldn't have coped with the shit that was going on.

    It should be better now that Ireland is a lot more secular but even if a majority wanted to go that way, the minority would cause insane amounts of shit about it.

    Maybe in another couple of decades...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Maybe this would be a good time for them to go back to being Irish?
    Yes maybe, and to go back to "The Troubles "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is the fundamental misunderstanding a lot of people have about that problem. 60% detest the idea of being part of Ireland. Back at the height of the troubles at least Ireland didn't want them because they couldn't have coped with the shit that was going on.

    It should be better now that Ireland is a lot more secular but even if a majority wanted to go that way, the minority would cause insane amounts of shit about it.

    Maybe in another couple of decades...
    But that was yesterday's reality. Now they have voted to remain in the EU, while England has voted to secede. Ireland is less religious than they used to be so maybe it would be easier for them to work with that dark history than side with the Brexiters.

    Or I suppose they could always become part of Scotland?

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    Scotland and Ireland are cousins.

    Northern Ireland is what happens when cousins breed...

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    So the Telegraph is already predicting that Cameron is a toasted crumpet.....

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...britain-votes/

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    Curious how the split remains 52/48 even as all those areas on the map gradually turn blue......

    I've never been to the UK, so I'm not completely familiar with the geography. But it seems like the yellow areas on the Guardian map (aside from Scotland) are all the cities I've ever heard of, with the biggest yellow patch being the greater London area.

    So does this simply come down to the city/rural split - like a lot of US elections do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Stick the head of a mentally subnormal racist old person in the middle of it...

    Most young people were against this.
    Must be rough for you middle-aged folks... Bless your hearts.
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    This is the end... of 43 years of the UK having their cake and eating it too, more or less.

    Reading and listening to tons of comments, I guess it's the wrong step for the British anyway. In the long run, the Scotch will get their independence, and the EEC is weakened from one big (though not exactly loyal) economic partner.

    No need for screening migrants in Calais anymore, I guess...
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    Fox reported we were out of the UN, it's been a rough day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Never underestimate the fucking stupidity of people.

    In most votes there are arguments on one side or the other and you make your choices.

    This one was about bullshit. Both sides agreed that a vote to leave would lead to another recession and the devaluation of our currency.

    Both sides.

    The leave argument was that was a price worth paying in order to
    a) Fix immigration - exactly like the US a fictitious argument when you look at the actual numbers
    b) Get power back from the EU - a fictitious argument when you look at the facts.

    The only slight redeeming factor is that we're away from the worst of England because this shit isn't going to wash in Scotland. Lots of amazing great things about England but unfortunately the idiots are now in the majority there.

    It's like finding out your wife is cheating on you and you are going to have an expensive divorce but looking forward to better times in a few years.

    Oh do shut up, you fucking pussy. Your pig fucking ruling elite parties Labor and the Tories, have rammed 8 years of austerity right up your F A T toothless collective assholes. It's slaves like you who want to continue to support the banks and wealthy investors at the expense of your own toothless people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jérôme Frenchise View Post
    This is the end... of 43 years of the UK having their cake and eating it too, more or less.

    Reading and listening to tons of comments, I guess it's the wrong step for the British anyway. In the long run, the Scotch will get their independence, and the EEC is weakened from one big (though not exactly loyal) economic partner.

    No need for screening migrants in Calais anymore, I guess...

    You can politely go fuck yourself with a Vince Gill CD you F A T retreating frog. This whole god damn referendum was the product of a significant shift to the right which has been increasing in both limeyland and the rest of that European shithole continent despite what slave SESH says on the subject. The social protest involved was the limey working class who are dissatisfied with the Tory government and Labor Party. Europe has fucked itself royally in the ass due to massive immigration and you frogs were the leaders in that. No wonder your country is the Muzzie cesspool it is today.

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    Wow that Kirsty knows her stuff ... What's the best foundation to cover 5 o'clock shadow ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    Fox reported we were out of the UN, it's been a rough day
    Christ, I thought you were making that shit up, but they really did


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    I see qikgts the N.S.A. spy is back.

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    Well I guess it's time to break out the old flags and start beating the secession drum down here. Vandy - you're welcome to visit but I'm going to need to see you bang a cheap hooker while eating a ham sammich, drinkin some cheap beers and reciting the Eleven Commandments before I can let you in.
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    What in the fuck is wrong with you!? NEVER invite a limey into your home. They are ALL thieves and lairs. You won't have a home left after a god damn limey has been in it. They're worse than the California and Texas transplants combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    What in the fuck is wrong with you!? NEVER invite a limey into your home. They are ALL thieves and lairs. You won't have a home left after a god damn limey has been in it. They're worse than the California and Texas transplants combined.
    Vandy doesn't count - he's a Geordie so he's kinda like neutral or maybe he's a Transginger or Gender Binary or whatever fucked up retarded bullshit gender Ubama comes up with next. Regardless, he's a good one so it'll be all right

    Edit - apparently the term is gender non binary. However, I think the proper medical term is fucked in the head.
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    Oh, he counts all right. ALL limeys are hatched from the scum DNA gene. In fact, its really the scum precursor gene. All limeys are carriers of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIEP View Post
    Vandy doesn't count - he's a Geordie so he's kinda like neutral or maybe he's a Transginger or Gender Binary or whatever fucked up retarded bullshit gender Ubama comes up with next. Regardless, he's a good one so it'll be all right

    Edit - apparently the term is gender non binary. However, I think the proper medical term is fucked in the head.


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