Raise your glass to the hard working people
Let's drink to the uncounted heads
Let's think of the wavering millions
Who need leaders but get gamblers instead
Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter
His empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows
And a parade of the gray suited grafters
A choice of cancer or polio
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I can't stand Hillary but at least she's semi-competent and sort of knows what the fuck she is talking about...
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MmeForget (07-31-2016)
Tell that to them fellers that died in Benghazi. They might have a different opinion.Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
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I'm sorry they died, but the partisan blame shit is just silly. Were there lives worth more than the 4,000 or so that died in Iraq? I imagine a couple of the guys blamed her, some not. Maybe they blamed the GOP Congress for cutting the security funding? Who knows?
I still feel we are fucked either way. Twenty plus shit candidates narrowed down to two shit candidates.
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Hillary was in charge of the state department and sending Christopher Stevens to Benghazi in hopes of having a permanent consulate there was her idea. She was responsible to do everything she could to protect him and anyone else working there. Hundreds of reports were made about terrost activities there and attacks on diplomatic compounds. Hillary must have read or at least heard about some of them. According to U S Security Offier Eric Nordstrom two request he made for additional security right before the attacks were denied because one of Hillary's underlings Charlene Lamb wanted to keep the security in Benghzi "artifically low", whatever that means, I assume it meant less than required because that's what he got. Nothing about funding being cut off because it was never requested. Hillary was in charge and I believe she approved or disapproved everything that went on there. She's responsible for everything that happened there but she was smart enough to play the plausable deniability game.
How many politicians would it take to ensure at least two of them were credible choices? All of them plus two.
Bernie Sanders was a credible choice. John Kasich was also. Not that I would have ever voted for him, but he certainly had the resume to be a credible candidate. And the only one out of the clown car who polled significantly ahead of Hillary (but still not ahead of Bernie)
Apart from everything else and there is a hell of a lot of else, they are both too old.
People in their 60s and early 70s start to fail, that's why we make them retire.
If your family doctor is too old at 70 why isn't your president or supreme court judge?
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MmeForget (08-05-2016)
Well fuck! Someone died in government service! Hang every department head every time then! Retards. Really? CIA. Local Police. FBI and Marshals. Every time someone dies, lets have 50 investigations and demand resignations and shit. Just silly.
katina (08-02-2016),Seshmeister (07-31-2016)
On a related point, how fucking clean has Obama been?
He's coming to the end of his second term and he's virtually scandal free.
When was the last time that happened?
He may go down as the whitest president of all time...
MmeForget (08-05-2016)
It's only silly because Hillary's a democrat. The true purpose of the consulate Hillary wanted to establish there was to help facilate sending arms from Lybia to anti Assad rebels in Syria. She used the two diplomats as props to perpetrate her scheme and they paid for it with their lives. The decision to maintain a low security profile there was obviously part of the same scheme.
Kasich polled higher than Clinton and lower than Sanders but Trump and Clinton won. Just goes to show you how unreliable polls are.
BTW. Bernie has fallen and he can't get up.
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Riiiggghhhttt....a dubious finding by one of the dozen witch hunts, er, (exclusively Republican) investigations...
You must have had excuses for breakfast and lunch today. You're full of them tonight. Ford is right about one thing. Electing Hillary is a guarantee we'll still be fucking around in the middle east for at least the next four years. Hopefully Bubba will nut up from lack of strange pussy and say enough's enough and strangle the bitch before she starts WWIII.
You must have listened to "Up for Breakfast"...
Oil is the guarantee that we'll be in the Middle East for years. Not Trump's jerkoff, populist rhetoric...
PNAC isn't lining up behind Hillary because of oil.
Here's the thing, I'm trying to understand the vitriol about Clinton coming from the left in the US and I get a some of it but I saw this tonight and given the headline I was expecting much much worse. Is that it?
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/t...llary-clinton/
The 7 Wildest Lies From Hillary Clinton
1) Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
2) Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
3) Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
4) Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
5) The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
6) Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
7) Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.
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1) Quite bad
2) An exageration
3&4) Nothing - irrelevant
5) Meh
6&7) Seem to me to be more like mistakes than wild lies
In a normal election some of that would be enough to make you worry a bit about electing her but context is everything.
Trump racks up 10 times more lies in an afternoon.
MmeForget (08-05-2016)
I'm your huckleberry. Let's hear a few of those lies. I'm sure you can find a few. He is a politician now. Since he tells 100 lies in one afternoon you shouldn't have any trouble coming up with a couple hundred minimum.
Is that the black rapper that used to be Bubba's pimp of choice while he was in the White House? Seems like he'd want Hillary to win so Bubba could spend more time in DC.PNAC isn't lining up behind Hillary because of oil.
That would get boring fast.
If you can't immediately find a couple of hundred lies Trump has told then you can't find your own ass with both hands.
Not opinions. Not things people disagree with. Plain lies.
If I post them then you will doubt the source(s) because I don't like him, go look yourself.
In other words you're full of shit as usual. Since Trump's mama is from Scotland I'm guessing you're a distant relative that The Donald won't send a bucket of cash to because you're a cross dresser and you're pissed off about it.
Ouch! Such harsh words.
Ok let's try the Daily Wire whcih is an politically conservative American news and opinion website founded in 2015 by conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro, who currently serves as Editor-in-chief. You can check the sources if you go to the original link.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/t...s-hank-berrien
Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies
AP Photo/Mike Groll [AP Photo/Mike Groll]
By:
Hank Berrien
April 11, 2016
Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.
But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.
Which made it relatively easy to come up with this not-even-close-to-complete list of 101 lies from Donald Trump.
1. March 30: Trump claims MSNBC edited their released version of his interview with Chris Matthews in which Trump stumbled on abortion: “You really ought to hear the whole thing. I mean, this is a long convoluted question. This was a long discussion, and they just cut it out. And, frankly, it was extremely — it was really convoluted.” Nope; that was a lie.
2. March 29: Trump lies that Wisconsin’s effective unemployment rate is 20%, saying, ""What? Is it 20 percent? Effective or regular? I mean just -- effective unemployment rate, 20 percent. Hey, this is out of the big book." According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, The U-3 official unemployment rate in Wisconsin was 4.6 percent in 2015; Wisconsin’s U-6 rate for 2015 was 8.3 percent.
3. March 29: Told Sean Hannity, “You know, I look at what’s happening in Wisconsin with the numbers, the job numbers, the trade numbers, how it’s a stagnant economy, how they owe $2.2 billion in terms of their budget.” As Factcheck.org reported, Wisconsin’s general fund is currently projected to have a positive balance when its current two-year budget cycle ends next year, according to an analysis by nonpartisan budget experts.
4. March 29: Trump alleged that when Michelle Fields "found out that there was a security camera, and that they had her on tape, all of a sudden that story changed." Absolutely untrue.
5. March 29: Trump said the Secret Service was worried about Fields, alleging, "She went through the Secret Service, she had a pen in her hand, which Service Service is not liking because they don't know what it is, whether it's a little bomb…” As Katie Pavlich of Townhall noted, “All reporters at campaign events, like regular attendees, go through Secret Service security before being allowed into a venue. The security is thorough, with a back check, wanding and a metal detector walk through. Fields wasn't carrying a knife, she was carrying a pen and if the Secret Service thought it was dangerous, they would have taken it from her at the security checkpoint before entering the room.”
6. March 27: Trump claims Cruz bought the rights to the ad featuring a nude Melania Trump: Debunked.
7. March 26: Trump lies, "There’s a tremendous tax that we pay when we (American businesses) go into China, whereas when China sells to us there’s no tax." China’s tariffs are higher than those imposed by the United States, but the Chinese exporters are taxed when they sell in the United States.
8. March 23: Trump accuses Cruz of coordinating with Super PAC in its ad featuring a nude Melania Trump. Tweeting, “Lyin' Ted Cruz denied that he had anything to do with the G.Q. model photo post of Melania. That's why we call him Lyin' Ted!” Debunked.
9. March 21: Trump lies, "Out of 67 counties (in Florida), I won 66, which is unprecedented. It's never happened before." Nope. In 2004, John Kerry won all 67 counties for the Democrats; in 2000, Al Gore won all 67 for the Democrats and. George W. Bush won all 67 for Republicans. In 1996, Bob Dole took 66 of 67 counties for the GOP primary and the 67th was a tie between Dole and Pat Buchanan in Washington County.
10. March 19: Trump said the 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix." Nope. The omnibus bill does not fund undocumented immigrants "coming in and through" the border; it funds the very agency tasked with keeping undocumented immigrants out, U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
11. March 17: Trump on Fox News denied that he ever accused President George W. Bush of lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. “I didn’t say lie. I said he may have lied.” That’s false. Trump said in a February that Bush “lied.”
12. March 13: Trump states that the man who rushed the stage in Dayton, Ohio, "had chatter about ISIS, or with ISIS" in his social media posts. Trump was fooled by a hoax video; the claim is ludicrous.
13. March 11: Lying about Cruz’s count of the states he had had won: “Wasn’t that funny last night when Cruz said, ‘I’m the only one that can beat Donald Trump. I have demonstrated that I can beat him. I won five states.’” Cruz correctly stated he won eight states, not five.
14. March 10: Trump, the expert economist: "GDP was zero essentially for the last two quarters." GDP grew at an annual rate of 1 percent in the fourth quarter of 2015, and 2 percent in the third quarter, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
15. March 10: Trump claims Michelle Fields made up the story about being grabbed by Corey Lewandowski, blustering, "This was, in my opinion, made up. Everybody said nothing happened. Perhaps she made the story up. I think that's what happened."
16. March 9: “Eight weeks ago, they signed a budget that is so bad. It funds ISIS.” As POLITICO noted, “The omnibus spending bill, passed in December, is not strictly a budget, and it’s not clear what part of it Trump thinks gives money to ISIS.”
17. March 8: Trump brags that the Trump winery is the “largest winery on the East Coast.” "That’s not correct," said Michael Kaiser, spokesman for the National Association of American Wineries. Wine industry analysts calculate a winery’s size by the volume of wine produced. Trump Winery is not even the largest in Virginia. The top producers in the state are the Williamsburg Winery and Chateau Morrisette in Floyd County. In terms of sheer size in acreage, both the Wagner Vineyards Estate Winery in the Finger Lakes region of New York and Pindar Vineyards on New York’s Long Island are larger.
18. March 8: On Trump-branded water and Mitt Romney: “He talked about the water company. Well, there’s the water company. I mean, we sell water.” Well …
19. March 8: “Upstate New York I poll higher than anybody ever.” Hillary Clinton would slaughter Trump 56 percent to 33 percent in upstate New York, according to a Siena College poll.
20. March 8: Trump: “Trump steaks, where are the steaks? Do we have the steaks? We have Trump steaks.” Once sold briefly by The Sharper Image, the company’s website reads, “Unfortunately, Trump Steaks are no longer available, but their legacy endures.
21. March 8: Lying about how much was spent in one week against him: “So many horrible, horrible things said about me in one week. $38 million worth of horrible lies.” According to The Tracking Firm, every Republican dollar spent by Trump’s opponents on TV and radio from March 1 through 7 amounted to $10.57 million, and not all of it was directed against Trump.
22. March 8: Trump held up a magazine, claiming it was Trump magazine: "This comes out and it's called The Jewel of Palm Beach and it all goes to all of my clubs. I have had it for many years. It's the magazine. It's great. Anybody want one?" Trump Magazine folded in 2009.
23. March 7: Lying about his popularity after the Paris attacks: “After Paris, all of a sudden it started changing. We started getting polls in. And everybody liked Trump from the standpoint of ISIS, from the standpoint of the military. Less than 42% of respondents in a Washington Post-ABC poll said Trump was the best candidate to best handle the threat of terrorism.
24. March 7: “You have Japan, where the cars come in by the hundreds of thousands, they pour off the boats. ... [W]e send them like nothing. We send them nothing, by comparison, nothing.” The United States exported $62 billion worth of goods to Japan last year.
25. March 7: “I’ve spent the least money and I’m by far number 1. So I’ve spent the least.” As of Jan. 31, Trump’s campaign had spent $23.9 million, more than John Kasich’s campaign, which has spent $7.2 million, or $19.5 million if you include outside groups supporting him.
26. March 7: Trump says you don’t see “Made in the USA” anymore. As POLITICO reported: “The U.S. Economics and Statistics Administra’ in 2014 that found that U.S. manufacturers sold $4.4 trillion of goods that classify as ‘Made in the U.S.A.’”
27. March 7: “I’m self-funding my campaign. I’m not taking money. ... I’m not taking. I spent a lot of money. I don’t take.” As of Jan. 31, his campaign had accepted $7.5 million from donors not named Donald J. Trump.
28. March 7: Boasting he had spent $30 million on his campaign: “I’m already in for $30 million cash.” According to POLITICO, “As of then he had only contributed $250,318, plus the loan of $17.5 million.
29. March 7: “I think I have $50 million of negative ads against me in Florida. $50 million. Somebody said $50 million.” As of March 11, outside groups had spent $15 million in Florida.
30. March 3: Trump claims the wives of the 9/11 hijackers "knew exactly what was happening" and returned to Saudi Arabia two days before the attacks to watch their husbands on television flying the planes. The 9/11 Commission report stated that none of the hijackers had a wife, girlfriend or family member in the United States during the days or months leading up to the hijackings.
31. February 28: Trump claims that the New York Times can write a false story without being sued, snapping, “I think it's very unfair when the New York Times can write a story that they know is false, that they virtually told me they know it's false, and I say, why don't you pull the story, and they say, we're not going to do that, because they can't basically be sued.” the unanimous 1964 U.S. Supreme Court decision in New York Times vs. Sullivan states that the First Amendment does not protect statements made with "actual malice.”
32. February 29, after his Nevada win: Trump brags that he is “number one with Hispanics.” Except 93 percent of the Latinos in Nevada did not support Trump. A Washington Post-Univision poll in February found that 80% of registered Hispanic voters viewed Trump unfavorably.
33. February 28: "We (Trump University) have an ‘A’ from the Better Business Bureau." In reality, BBB received multiple consumer complaints about Trump university, which sank to a D-minus in 2010. The reason Trump University rose to an A in July 2014 was that as the company looked to be closing after 2013, no new complaints were reported. Complaints over three years old automatically rolled off of the business review, according to BBB policy. Further, Trump University was never been a BBB-accredited business. When debate moderators were given a document by the Trump campaign, it could not have been an actual Better Business Bureau accreditation notice for Trump University.
34. February 28, with Chris Wallace: Trump claimed that “many of” the university’s instructors were “handpicked” by him. That’s not true. In a 2012 deposition, a top executive for Trump University said that “none of our instructors” was picked by Trump himself.
35. February 28, with Wallace: Trump said that “98 percent of the people that took the courses … thought they were terrific.” A class-action lawsuit against Trump alleges that the surveys were not anonymous and were filled out during or immediately after sessions when participants were still expecting to receive future benefits from the program.
36. February 28: “I don’t know anything about David Duke,” to Jake Tapper. Trump not only has mentioned Duke in the past but actually repudiated him during a Bloomberg interview in August 2015. Fifteen years ago, when Trump was considering running for president as a Reform Party candidate, he named Duke a cause for concern. “Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined — a big racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party,” he said.
37. February 25, on Trump University: “I’ve won most of the lawsuits.” Not true, as The Washington Post has noted.
38. February 25 debate: Lying about his support for national health care. Cruz says, “Donald, true or false, you’ve said the government should pay for everyone’s health care.” Trump: “That’s false.” Cruz: “But you’ve never stood on this debate stage and says it works great in Canada and Scotland and we should do it here?” Trump’s response? “No, I did not. No I did not.” Trump told 60 Minutes’ Scott Pelley in September 2015 that he’d “take care of everybody” and that the government would pay for it. In the first Republican debate of the election season, Trump stated, “As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland.”
39. February 25 debate: Trump accused Cruz of lying regarding his support for toppling Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, saying, “He said I was in favor in Libya. I never discussed that subject. I was in favor of Libya? We would be so much better off if Gaddafi would be in charge right now.” Buzzfeed published a 2011 video of Trump in which he called to get rid of Gaddafi.
40. February 23: Trump says he won the youth vote in Nevada. Not true.
41. February 21: Trump said a “recent poll” showed 25 percent of blacks support him in a hypothetical race against Hillary Clinton. That “recent poll” was from September., Fox News, Feb. 15-17: 10 percent. USA Today/Suffolk, Feb. 11-15: 7 percent. Quinnipiac University, Feb. 10-15: 12 percent; Morning Consult: Feb. 3-7: 11 percent. Public Policy Polling, Feb. 2-3: 4 percent. Quinnipiac University, Feb. 2-4: 4 percent to 12 percent.
42. February: Trump calls Cruz a liar for running an ad accusing Trump of letting the federal government stay in charge of the state lands they own and not return them to the states. Of course, Cruz was telling the truth, as you see here.
43. Trump claims he “lost hundreds of friends” on 9/11. That lie may have been the most cynical one; as The Daily Beast reported, “If he has hundreds of friends, he should be able to tell us about them,” said a Port Authority police officer who never talks about how many comrades he lost. “If he can tell us about the hundreds of friends he lost, who they were, what kind of person they were, I might have some respect for him.”
44. February 13; "I'm the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq. Do not attack Iraq.’” There is no known public record of Trump taking a clear stance against the war before it began.
45. February 7: "If we competitively bid drugs in the United States, we can save as much as $300 billion a year.” As the Washington Post pointed out,“Total spending in Medicare Part D (prescription drugs) in 2014 was $78 billion. So Trump, in effect, is claiming to save $300 billion a year on a $78 billion program. That’s like turning water into wine."
46. February 5: Donald Trump claimed that the loan rates Ted Cruz received during his 2012 Senate run were “lower than you could get, lower than anybody could get.” Evidence shows the interest rates Cruz reported were attainable at the time.
47. February 2: Trump lies about the crowd size at an event in Arkansas, claiming, 'So we broke the record, and I asked the fire marshal, 'Please come up because nobody's going to believe me. Please come up'” He later tweeted, 'THANK YOU to everyone in Little Rock, Arkansas tonight! A record crowd of 12K.” But the Daily Mail reported: But the Barton Arena has just 7,150 seats, according to the fair's website, and room for another 3,045 in floor seating, for a total of 10,195. While Trump's fans were standing, not sitting, the floor was less than one-half full and some sections of seats remained mostly empty – suggesting the crowd was perhaps half of what was announced from the stage.”
48. January 31: Trump tweeted: “@bobvanderplaats asked me to do an event. The people holding the event called me to say he wanted $100,000 for himself.Phony @foxandfriends.” The Des Moines Register's chief political reporter Jennifer Jacobs contacted the group to whom Trump spoke, who confirmed that Vander Plaats was correct in replying to Trump that Trump himself was paid $100,000 to speak at Iowa's Land Investment Expo, directly contradicting Trump’s claim.
49. January 28: On the morning of the Fox News/Google debate which Trump boycotted, he retweeted a bogus graphic showing Fox News host Megyn Kelly posing with Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal and his sister. The image is fake.
50. January 22: Trump releases ad saying Cruz is pro-amnesty Ironically, Cruz is not pro-amnesty, as Jeff Sessions has testified, but Trump has been:
51. Taped January 16: Trump denied saying that Americans detained by Iran would “never” be released during the Obama administration. In September, Trump said that “frankly they’re never going to come back with this group.”
52. Also taped January 16: Trump claimed “all of the latest polls have me No. 1 in Iowa.” The Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll released Jan. 13 showed him behind Ted Cruz by three points.
53. January 15: "We’re losing now over $500 billion a year in terms of imbalance with China." The 2014 trade deficit totaled $343 billion.
54. January 15 GOP debate: Trump denied ever telling the New York Times he had called for a 45% tariff on Chinese goods. He lied.
55. January 15: Trump said the terrorist attacks in Paris last year happened despite the city having "the strictest no-gun policy of any city anywhere in the world." In France, private gun ownership, while heavily regulated, is permitted. France has the twelfth most guns per capita in the world.
56. December 18, on Morning Joe: “Our country is falling apart, frankly. Our infrastructure is a disaster. Our bridges are falling down. Sixty-one percent of our bridges are in danger.” As of 2014, according to the agency, about 61,000 of the country’s 611,000 bridges were rated as "structurally deficient," which works out to 10 percent.
57. December 2: Claimed he had predicted Osama bin Laden’s ascension in his book The America We Deserve, blustering, "I said in that book that we better be careful with this guy named Osama bin Laden. I mean I really study this stuff … And now people are seeing that, they’re saying, “You know, Trump predicted Osama bin Laden.” The America We Deserve makes one reference to bin Laden. It doesn’t write “we better be careful with this guy named Osama bin Laden,” or that the U.S. “better take him out.” All Trump wrote was this: “One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”
58. November 23: Trump claimed 81 percent of murdered white people are killed by black people. The truth? 84 percent of murdered white people are murdered by other white people. Trump cited the “Crime Statistics Bureau—San Francisco,” which doesn’t exist except in the mind of a white supremacist on Twitter.
59. November 21: Trump: “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.” There is no evidence to support that claim.
60. November 14: Trump: "Our president wants to take in 250,000 from Syria." Nope, more like 10,000.
61. November 9, on Putin. This one was hilarious. Trump: “I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes … We were stablemates, and we did very well that night.” The two men were interviewed separately in different countries thousands of miles apart.
62. October 31: Trump claimed that John Oliver's program "Last Week Tonight" had invited him to appear on the show "four or five times." Oliver’s response? "Who's he trying to impress with that lie?"
63. October 26: The lie of omitting all the details of his financial rise, only stating, “My father gave me a small loan of $1 million.” Fred Trump — along with the Hyatt hotel chain — jointly guaranteed a $70 million construction loan from Manufacturers Hanover bank, “each assuming a 50 percent share of the obligation and each committing itself to complete the project should Donald be unable to finish it,” according to Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
64. October 25, tweeted: “Word is that Ford Motor, because of my constant badgering at packed events, is going to cancel their deal to go to Mexico and stay in U.S.” One problem: Ford made that decision four years ago. The company stated, “We decided to move the F-650 and F-750 medium-duty trucks to Ohio Assembly in 2011, long before any candidates announced their intention to run for U.S. president.”
65. October 4: Trump: “You know that was a gun-free zone in Oregon where they had no guns allowed, no nothing. So the only one that had the gun was the bad guy, and everybody was sitting there and there was nothing they could do. Not a thing they could do.” Rebecca Redell, UCC’s vice president and chief financial officer: The student misconduct policy regarding firearms does not apply to students with a valid concealed weapons permit. There is a general prohibition against the possession of weapons on campus that would apply to College patrons, but this, similarly would not apply to those with valid concealed weapon permits pursuant to Oregon law
66. September 30: “The state of Florida had sanctuary cities while Jeb Bush was governor. Nobody said anything.” According to a report from the Congressional Research Service issued in August 2006, when Bush was governor, there were 32 cities and counties nationwide that had “sanctuary policies.” None of those on the list is in Florida.
67. September 29: Trump op-ed on his tax plan in WSJ: “With moderate growth, this plan will be revenue-neutral.”said his tax plan is revenue neutral. The pro-business Tax Foundation estimated the Trump plan would reduce revenues to the Treasury by more than $10 trillion over 10 years, even assuming his plan would create economic growth.
68. September 16: "Just the other day, 2 years old, 2½ years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic." There is no evidence a link exists between recommended vaccines and autism
69. September 16: Trump said Mexico doesn’t have a birthright citizenship policy. It does.
70. September 16: Trump lies that he didn’t want casino gambling in Florida during the GOP debate. Jeb Bush: “The one guy that had some special interest that I know of — that tried to get me my views on something, that was generous and gave me money — was Donald Trump. He wanted casino gambling in Florida." Trump: "Totally false." In the late 1990s, Trump tried to build a multimillion-dollar casino with the Seminole Tribe of Florida, according to CNN.
71. August 25: Trump said at a press conference that under Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker the state is “borrowing to a point that nobody thought possible.” The rate of borrowing has slowed under Walker. It was 5.8 percent over his first four years in office compared with 31 percent over the previous four-year period.
72. August 6, GOP debate: Megyn Kelly: “You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account …” Trump: “Only Rosie O’Donnell.” Not true.
73. July 19, on John McCain: “He's done nothing to help the vets. And I will tell you, they are living in hell." McCain has a long record of supporting veterans' issues in Congress. He was instrumental in a landmark law approved last year to overhaul the scandal-plagued Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain worked with the chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont, as well as Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., chairman of the House veterans panel, to help win passage of the law, which aims to alleviate long delays veterans faced in getting medical care.
74. July 1: “I write a book called The Art of the Deal, the No. 1 selling business book of all time, at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is.” Not even close. "Trump is full of B.S.," said Jeffrey Pfeffer, a professor of business management at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. "The best selling/most important business books would have to be In Search of Excellence by (Thomas) Peters and (Robert) Waterman that started the genre, Built to Last by Jim Collins, The One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard and The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey."
75. July 1: Trump described an audience of 15,000 people in Phoenix; the city fire department said capacity for the North Ballroom was 4,200 people. The doors were closed at 4,169 attendees, said Phoenix Fire Department spokeswoman Shelly Jamison.
76. Mid-July: Trump’s campaign says he’s worth $10 billion; Forbes, which has been tracking his finances for more than 30 years, estimates that his net worth is closer to $4.1 billion, less than half of Trump's figure.
77. June 15 announcement speech: "The last quarter, it was just announced, our gross domestic product … was below zero. Who ever heard of this? It's never below zero.” That is ridiculous, as shown clearly here.
78. June 15, on ISIS: “They've become rich. I'm in competition with them. They just built a hotel in Syria. Can you believe this? They built a hotel." Nope. ISIS took over a hotel.
79. June 15: Trump: “Even our nuclear arsenal doesn't work.” "Over and over, the nuclear weapons laboratories, the Air Force, the Navy, and the Secretary of Defense have certified that the nuclear arsenal does work," said Matthew Bunn, a nuclear specialist at the Harvard Kennedy School.
80. Trump boasted to Larry King that he got paid $1 million for a speech. King: “For the Learning Annex.” Trump: “Yes, that's true. It's actually more than that.” Nope. $400,000.
81. As The New York Times reported: Trump lied even about nursery rhyme-themed tiles in his daughter’s room being made by a young Walt Disney.
82. Numerous celebrities who have played with Trump assert that he cheats at golf.
83. Trump lies about his debt level; as National Review has pointed out: “Was Trump actually $9 billion in debt in the 1990s, as he said in two of his books? No. The New York Times reported that Trump later declared the claim a “mistake”: “I don’t know how it got there.”
84. Trump lied about how he avoided the draft for Vietnam, claiming he got a high draft number. Not only did he get four deferments in college, but draft numbers were not even used until December, 1969, a full year after he received his final deferment, a medical one in September 1968. Trump’s campaign later claimed he couldn’t go because of bone spurs.
85. Trump has consistently lied that he is beating Hillary Clinton in polls.
86. Trump has lied that he has won the debates in every poll.
87. Trump lied that Cruz stole the Iowa caucuses from him.
88. Trump lied about Cruz stealing delegates from him in Louisiana. As Aaron Bandler of The Daily Wire pointed out, “Trump is indirectly accusing Cruz of cheating here, but Cruz didn't cheat – he just knows the rules better than Trump. These rules that Trump has been complaining about have actually benefited him.”
89. Trump accused Cruz of coordinating with a Super-PAC for Cruz’s huge win in Wisconsin: Trump released a statement reading, "Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating `with his own Super PAC’s (which is illegal) who totally control him.” As Bandler of The Daily Wire noted: “The Trump camp's supposed evidence of this is that Cruz appeared at campaign events that were put on by the Keep the Promise Super PAC. But this is not a violation of federal law, as the The Washington Post explains:
A close reading of FEC regulations reveals that campaigns can do more than just publicly signal their needs to independent groups, a practice that flourished in the 2014 midterms. Operatives on both sides can talk to one another directly, as long as they do not discuss candidate strategy. According to an FEC rule, an independent group also can confer with a campaign until this fall about “issue ads” featuring a candidate. Some election-law lawyers think that a super PAC could share its entire paid media plan, as long as the candidate’s team does not respond.
90. Claims he has given $102 million to charity. He has not released records to prove that assertion, but he has been reckoned the least charitable billionaire in the United States by a TSG review of his foundation’s Internal Revenue Service returns.
91. Trump lied that he could not get enough American workers to staff all the seasonal jobs his resort required during the busy season. When confronted with the fact that he had staffed a wrecking crew with undocumented Polish workers, Trump admitted he had lied.
92. After Marco Rubio brought up the size of Trump’s hands, Trump flailed that no one had ever mentioned the size of the hands before. That was a lie, as ABC reported:
Nearly 30 years ago, Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair magazine, described Trump in Spy magazine as a “short-fingered vulgarian.” In an editor’s letter in "Vanity Fair" last November, Carter said that he wrote the Sky magazine comment in 1988 "just to drive him a little bit crazy." And according to Carter, it still does.
"Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer," Carter wrote in November.
"To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers," Carter wrote. "I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby." "The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination," Carter continued. "Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: 'See, not so short!' I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, 'Actually, quite short.'"
93. Trump repeated a lie his campaign made up about former Senator Tom Coburn, saying Coburn said of Cruz, “without a doubt, one of the most dishonest people in DC.” Coburn was furious, saying, “It’s an absolute fabrication. I’ve never said that, period.”
94. Trump bleated, “I'm the only one on this stage that said, ‘Do not go into Iraq. Do not attack Iraq.’... Nobody else on this stage said that. And I said it loud and strong. And I was in the private sector. I wasn't a politician, fortunately. But I said it, and I said it loud and clear, ‘You'll destabilize the Middle East.’” Absolutely false, as shown here.
95. Trump: “I will totally protect Israel.” But then again, “Let me be sort of a neutral guy. I don’t want to say whose fault it is. I don’t think it helps.”
96. Trump says that the Bible is his favorite book. But he can’t even quote a verse from it. When he was asked to name his favorite verse, he declined. Some favorite book.
97. Trump said: “I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee regardless of who it is. I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek or accept the nomination for president of any other party.” But Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos he would consider it months ago.
98. One of the great ones: Trump: “Nobody respects women more than I do.” Tell that to all the women he has insulted.
99. Trump brags about his relationship with God, but as Kevin Williamson of National Review cogently points out, Trump explicitly rejects the fundamentals of Christianity, i.e. man’s fallen state and his need for reconciliation with God. When asked about that, Trump made it clear that he doesn’t believe he needs to be forgiven for anything, that he just needs to — in his words — “drink my little wine and have my little cracker.” As Trump put it, “Why do I have to ask for forgiveness if you’re not making mistakes?”
100. Trump has boasted that he is a conservative, but then tweeted, “Remember, it was the Republican Party, with the help of conservatives, that made so many promises to their base, but didn’t keep them.” For a comprehensive list of why Trump is not a conservative, see here.
101. Trump: "I don't condone violence.” Trump: "I'd like to punch him in the face.”
That's not even a complete list. Trump's dishonesty is so awe-inspiringly pervasive that it would be nearly impossible to catalogue those lies in comprehensive fashion. But be assured: if Trump's talking, there's a solid shot he's not telling the truth.
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The original name of this thread is completely wrong.
It should really be Hillary vs Trump: A Choice of Eczema or Ebola
MmeForget (08-05-2016)
I've had Eczema. I'm pretty sure World War III or a global corporate-fascist state would be worse.
She is awful. She leaves a wake of dishonesty and destruction wherever she goes.
It's sad we have these 2 fucks running for office.
I would rather have Polio. There is a cure for Polio.
Fuck Cancer.
Breasts,
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Nickdfresh (08-02-2016)
The people that think Hillary Clinton is going to win, underestimate how much the public hates her.
FORD (08-02-2016)
Yep. I don't know anybody who wants to vote FOR Hillary, though some will do it just because they are afraid of Trump. And then there are the Republicans who don't like Trump at all, but will vote for him out of their pathological hatred of Hillary. Big irony there is that they hate her for the wrong reasons, and don't even realize she's essentially one of them, when it comes to important issues.
Sadly, Jill Stein didn't help herself much yesterday by choosing a running mate who nobody outside of the left wing activist community had ever heard of. Seriously, I'd never even heard of the guy.
We need to get as many actual Liberals as we can into Congress, because Gary Johnson is looking like more like a legitimate candidate all the time.
Gary Johnson is not that good of a debater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P462xM_Fuak
Trump is actually a great debater, because he bullies people like on the playground.
Gary Johnson is too nice. Trump would eat him up.
Not looking forward to the Trump and Hillary debates.
Hillary's voice sounds like someone is practicing trumpet.
I can't imagine 4 years of that.
Both of the candidates are old... LIKE OLD.
70 is OLD.
They make you retire at 60 from the military, no matter what your rank is.
Why isn't the commander in chief position the same way?
What I liked about Bernie Sanders was that he cut though Hillary's shit, and let her know how dishonest and unethical she is.
It doesn't look like Johnson was really "debating" in that video, since he wasn't really there. Looks more like somebody chopped up a speech he made and inserted various bits and pieces of it as "debate" responses. I did see him in some actual debates in 2012. Barry & Mittens weren't there, but Jill Stein was, also Rocky Anderson (who I voted for in 2012) and some old right wing extremist crackpot named Virgil Goode.
These debates actually had more actual discussions of issues than the scripted corporate media events with Obama & Romney. And the surprising part is that Anderson, Stein, & Johnson were in agreement about 70% of the time (everything but the economic & trade issues, where Johnson landed right in the middle of the Ayn Rand fairy tale land) and all three of them were to the left of both Barry and Mittens.
I'd really like to see Johnson & Stein polling above 15% so the debates would be forced to include them, and then maybe we could see actual discussion of issues on network TV airtime, for once.
Of course, that would probably be the debate that is on the same night as the NFL game, just to ensure nobody watches it except for the 70 year old bra burning Hillbots.
Sarge (08-03-2016)
I agree. But I have a feeling she's still going to win.
One reason Hillary is going to win is people like Ford. Instead of supporting the only candidate that can keep her out of office he choices to support one that doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. Supporting Bernie made sense. He had a chance to win and keep Hillary out of office. Stein doesn't. And she doesn't have the popularity of a Ross Perot or Ralph Nader to swing enough votes from Hillary for Donald to win. A vote for Stein is a wasted vote. Anyone who can't see that is blind.
I agree she's a fibbing douche prone to self-aggrandizing tall tales...
But the truth is that most of the Benghazi attackers who were the senior planners did state that they were offended by the video and used it to galvanize their forces to attack the American consulate. While she did misspeak, a lot of the blame does fall on the CIA issuing contradictory details of the attack...
Incidentally, a lot of the Clinton's wealth has originated with 'donations' to their "Foundation" by former NY businessman Tom Golisano, owner of the payroll company PayChex and former owner of the Buffalo Sabres NHL hockey team...
Dude, you must be the Helen Keller of Trump-blowers. Even his most ardent supporters will acknowledge that he lies like a whore on Fleet Week!
His biggest one being promising to pay the contractors he shafted up the asshole in Atlantic City that worked on his shitty casinos...
MmeForget (08-05-2016)
Yeah. But you have to admit Donald Trump is putting up a very good fight in the popularity cUntest!
Pretty much this:
Why would I vote for Cheeto Hitler?
A race war might be slightly less messy than World War III (no nuclear weapons) but it still wouldn't be much fun. Nor would the economic chaos that would likely result when Herr Cheetofuhrer tried to write off the national debt the same way he did his own bankrupt businesses.
Been listening to The Beatles again?
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