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fuck your fucking framing
Poor limey. So lost.
Ouch
I have a question here.
Why do limeys smell so bad? I know, I know, the lack of personal hygiene. But its such a rapacious smell. Like the smell of death.
Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Yeah, that Hitler bunker parody shit never grows old.
I numbered those passages so you'd see what I'm responding to.Originally Posted by Seshmeister
#1. There's no evidence to prove she wasn't aware someone was deleting those e mails either. If she did I'm certain she knew what plausible deniability meant before she did it.
#2 How many request did Stevens need to make to get help? He asked for help and he didn't get any. Who's responsible for that? Not Hillary even though she sent the poor bastard over there. Bullshit.
#3 If Trump said that he was mistaken. The FBI found bomb making tools and such but I'm sure they removed any evidence they found before the landlord decided to let the media into the apartment. Trump was wrong about who saw what but the FBI did find evidence they had materials used to make bombs including "19 types of pipes that could be converted into bombs from the home." What the fuck would the have all these pipes for? They weren't plumbers or pipe fitters and they lived in an apartment.
BTW: I just found out they buried those cocksuckers in my hometown. If I ever go back there I'll stop by and piss on their graves. Might even dig them up and piss on their corpses.
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Beware of Dog
What the fuck in a "mangina"?Ladies and gentlemen and those that are wavering today's toilet roll word of the day is .....
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In a mangina? Usually more sand than in all of Dirtville
American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
It's all at the link I posted but I've copied it here.
There were several claims about Clinton’s emails that were either wrong, misleading or lacked context.
Trump twisted the facts when he directly addressed Clinton about her use of a private email system while secretary of state. “You get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails. And then you acid wash them — or bleach them, as you would say — a very expensive process,” Trump said.
Trump is referring to 31,830 emails that Clinton’s lawyers had deemed personal and, as a result, did not have to be turned over to the government. As we have written, the department’s policy allows its employees to determine which emails are work-related and must be preserved. “Messages that are not records may be deleted when no longer needed,” according to the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual (5 FAM 443.5). So Clinton was entitled to delete those nearly 32,000 emails.
It is true that the emails were deleted after Clinton received a subpoena from a Republican-controlled House committee investigation into the 2012 deaths of four Americans in Benghazi. But there is no evidence that Clinton knew that the emails were deleted after the subpoena was issued.
A quick recap of what happened, according to FBI notes of its investigation: In December 2014, a Clinton attorney told Platte River Networks – which at the time was managing Clinton’s private server – that Clinton had preserved her work-related emails and “decided she no longer needed access to any of her e-mails older than 60 days.” Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s former chief of staff, instructed the PRN employee — who was not identified — “to modify the e-mail retention policy” on Clinton’s server “to reflect this change,” FBI notes show.
On March 9, 2015, Clinton’s attorney informed PRN of the committee’s subpoena. The PRN employee who deleted the emails told the FBI that “he had an ‘oh shit’ moment” sometime between March 25 and March 31, 2015, and deleted the Clinton emails from the PRN server. Clinton told the FBI that she was not aware that they were deleted in late March 2015. (See pages 17-19 for the FBI’s notes on the deleted emails.) The FBI did not say when Clinton learned when the emails had been deleted.
Trump went too far when he said “after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 emails” since there is no evidence at this time that shows she had knowledge of when the emails were deleted.
Trump said that “Ambassador [Chris] Stevens sent 600 requests for help” before he was killed in an attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, in September 2012. But as the Washington Post Fact Checker reported, not all 600 came from Stevens, nor were they all requests for security upgrades, as it may have appeared to those watching or listening to the debate.#2 How many request did Stevens need to make to get help? He asked for help and he didn't get any. Who's responsible for that? Not Hillary even though she sent the poor bastard over there. Bullshit.
The total refers to the “cumulative number of security requests/concerns from Benghazi – 2012,” according to a chart the House Select Committee on Benghazi showed during a congressional hearing in October 2015. And “requests” and “concerns” are not the same thing, the Fact Checker said.
From its report:
Washington Post Fact Checker, Jan. 26: “A request is made via email or cable for physical security, equipment, or something related to the compound itself (lighting, barriers, wire, etc),” a GOP congressional staff member explained. “Weeks or months later, the same unresolved issue is brought up again in a discussion. That’s a request and a concern. In general, concerns followed requests. However, some concerns are independent of a request. Such concerns could, for example, be expressed about the delay of issuing visas to DS agents kept out of Libya. Concerns could be expressed about security personnel needing to provide their own holsters or protective gear, etc.”
Requests, meanwhile, were about any specific security-related need in Benghazi. A request for hundreds of sandbags would count as one request.
However, officials could not say how many of the 600 were security requests and how many were concerns.
Also, the State Department Accountability Review Board, which did call U.S. security in Benghazi “inadequate” prior to the attack, noted in its report that the agency made several security upgrades in 2012. So at least some of the security issues raised by officials were addressed, which may not have been clear from Trump’s statement.
#3 If Trump said that he was mistaken. The FBI found bomb making tools and such but I'm sure they removed any evidence they found before the landlord decided to let the media into the apartment. Trump was wrong about who saw what but the FBI did find evidence they had materials used to make bombs including "19 types of pipes that could be converted into bombs from the home." What the fuck would the have all these pipes for? They weren't plumbers or pipe fitters and they lived in an apartment.
In stressing that Muslims need to notify the police of wrongdoing in their communities, Trump claimed without evidence that “many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people” in San Bernardino last year.
As we have written, a neighbor reportedly had noticed packages being delivered to the San Bernardino home of the shooters, and told a friend that the couple was doing a lot of work in their garage. The friend said the neighbor did not want to racially profile the couple, so she did not report it. Another worker in the neighborhood reported seeing well-dressed Middle Eastern men walking from the house to lunch several times, which the worker said he thought was unusual but also did not report.
But in neither case did anyone report that they had seen “bombs all over the floor” of the couple’s home, and failed to report it to authorities.
Trump made the same claim about the San Bernardino case after a mass shooting in June at a gay night club in Orlando. At that time, Trump said “Muslims are the ones that have to report him,” referring to the Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen. However, Mohammed A. Malik contacted the FBI in 2014 after he learned that Mateen had been watching videotapes of Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Yemen-based imam. The FBI confirmed Malik’s story, the Washington Post wrote.
I'll respond quick so I don't have to delete half your post.
The E Mail bullshit is just a diversion IMO. Benghazi is the issue that should be most relevant but so far it hasn't been. She sent those diplomats there and had a duty to protect them. They're dead now. She failed. As far as the last part. Trump needs to stick to the facts because the facts are damaging enough. Trying to add more to the story makes the real facts questionable. Other Muslims probably were aware of what these fucks were up to but unfortunately the FBI hasn't been able to prove that.
I'm not for Trump. At one time I was but he has proven himself to be the jackass everyone said he was but I'll vote for him for several reasons.
#1 I fear Russia. Russia isn't North Korea. We fuck with Russia Putin will retaliate. I can't see us tangling with Russia over Assad and Syria. Fuck Assad, fuck Syria.
#2 The open borders bullshit.
#3 The liberals here need someone to oppose them or they'll whither up and die. As long as I've been posting here this place thrives on difference of opinion. Sometimes it gets out of hand, sometimes it doesn't. Lately everyone's been able to tell each other they're full of shit without getting personal.
It seems to me it has been over inflated just like her husband's BJ was.
And investigated a hell of a lot.
I think Trump and she have been involved in worse stuff especially Trump. Over the next month there will be more leaks of Trump being a boorish anti woman prick of a man but I think there is some more sinister stuff like his mob connections that won't come out.
You have to admit that the Republican machine is very very focused and effective on attacking the Clintons and anyone else that stands against them and in many ways that is a good thing you want your politicians to be under the spotlight.
It's also worth pointing out that Obama has been incredibly clean (I was about to say whiter than white) compared to all his recent predecessors.
The difference between you and many of the 40+% who are going to vote Trump is that you have stepped outside the bubble and heard opinions on both sides because of this site. That goes for the other side too, people are getting too polarized because they only ever hear one side of the argument these days because people choose news sources which reflect what they already think.
So how long do you think she will put this in every other post? 6 months?Ladies and gentlemen and those that are wavering today's toilet roll word of the day is .....
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I'm bored already...
I care less about what Trump may or may not have done than I do about what Hillary may of may not have done because he's a private citizen and she was a government official. Holding him accountable for his actions as a private citizen isn't my job. Holding Hillary accountable for what she's done as a government official is my duty as an American.
As far as the Republican machine goes it's pretty obvious they're NOT backing Trump at all. That makes me extra suspicious about Hillary. If the media and both parties want her to be our next president I don't.
Overall, a fairly disappointing debate, because much less of it involved the candidates explaining what they would do if elected than I would have liked. Too much of it was given over to character attacks and interpretations who did what back when.
I will say that Trump did what he needed to do in terms of putting Clinton on the defensive. Even in her roughest campaign prior to this one, in 2008, none of her opponents ever spoke to her the way Trump did, and Trump needed to do that because if the 2nd debate was another night of Trump being on the defensive as he was in the first debate it would have been even worse for him the second time around. Trump needs to have his base fully fired up and turning out to the polls if he has any chance of winning, and the things he said to Hillary on Sunday night doubtless had an energizing effect. It was even more important after the taped "pussy grabbing" comments surfaced 2 days prior for Trump to try and change the narrative.
Unfortunately, with the town hall forum and no podium to rest behind, Trump's body language was even more peculiar than it was at the first debate. For all the talk of Hillary's health status, Trump was breathing heavily through his nose and slightly rocking from side to side at times while he stood: leaning against or sitting on his chair when he wasn't speaking would have projected a much more relaxed image. Simply put, Trump came across as an angry guy, his face more red than (the usual) orange in terms of hue. He was just as interruptive as the first debate, and largely wasn't able to focus on the question that was asked of him for his two minute answer period without wandering off onto sometimes totally irrelevant topics.
Clinton, by contrast, came across as relaxed and confident. And she was able to answer the questions asked of her in far more depth than Trump was, with a greater command of the facts and made far fewer untrue statements than Trump did (Trump kind of reminds me of Reagan in the limited sense that Reagan also tended to think something was true merely because he believed it to be so).
As to who 'won' these debates, the results of essentially every poll based on objective scientific methods have shown Hillary pulling away from Trump after each debate. Doubtless many Trump supporters will claim Trump won both of them, in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
My hope for the third debate (provided Trump actually shows up, of course) is that the primary focus will be on issues and what the candidates plan to do. And I think Hillary is ready to have that debate. Trump, as evidenced by his last minute 'press conference' with the three women who accused Bill Clinton of molesting them and the one women who claimed Hillary laughed at her because she was raped, clearly is not ready to have that debate.
Scramby eggs and bacon.
Trump will turn up for the 3rd debate because he is behind in the polls.
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he didn't turn up for the 3rd debate.
He may well conclude that these debates aren't helping him (unless he continues to think he is winning them) and maybe decide to just do a 90 minute political infomercial, or hold a press conference. He could do either of those things and upstage the coverage of him dropping out of the 3rd debate, and the televised press would happily give him all the airtime he wanted to do so.
I mean, it's hard to think that a third debate appearance is going to help him much at this point. He doesn't have anything new by way of bombshells to drop on Hillary. Nobody gives a shit about the WikiLeaks stuff: it doesn't paint a portrait of Hillary that is any different than what is already suspected of her.
Trump will still want third debate because of the poll result.
https://www.good.is/articles/buffet-...db4d0235f40af5
Despite promising to release his tax returns during the 2016 election, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has broken his pledge and withheld his returns claiming he’s under audit. This has led to rampant speculation that the supposed billionaire contributes very little charity and doesn’t pay any taxes. These claims were bolstered by leaked documents that show he took a $916 million loss in 1995. This loss was so significant it may have allowed him to shield his income from being taxed for up to 18 years.
Last night, Trump confirmed that he used his massive losses to avoid paying the taxman saying, “Of course I do. Of course I do.” But when asked if he could reveal how long he’s avoided paying taxes he said, “No.” Trump also discussed how he used the tax code to lower his burden and accused Clinton’s friend billionaire Warren Buffett of doing the same. “Many of her friends took bigger deductions,” he said. “Warren Buffett took a massive deduction.”
Today, Warren Buffett put his money where his mouth is and and challenged Trump’s false allegations saying, “I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944, when I was 13. (Though, being a slow starter, I owed only $7 in tax that year.) I have copies of all 72 of my returns and none uses a carryforward.” Buffett also shared some details of his most recent tax return: “My 2015 return shows adjusted gross income of $11,563,931. My deductions totaled $5,477,694, of which allowable charitable contributions were $3,469,179. All but $36,037 of the remainder was for state income taxes.”
Buffett also revealed that in 2015 he gave $2,858,057,970 to charity—a startling figure given the fact that Trump lied about donating $1 million to a veteran’s organization earlier this year. At the end of his statement, Buffet put a final pin in Trump’s balloon by saying this tax information was disclosed while being under audit. “I have no problem in releasing my tax information while under audit,” Buffet says. “Neither would Mr. Trump – at least he would have no legal problem.”
Trump might be better off taking the fifth next debate. Hillary won't need to because no one's going to ask her about anything she might have done that would make her look bad anyway. She could take a dump on the stage during the debate and claim she had no knowledge of it and no one would call her a liar.
Trump probably takes a fifth of something before every debate. Just as was the case with John BONER, the orange skin is a sign of chronic liver damage
It's measured in gramsTrump probably takes a fifth of something before every debate. Just as was the case with John BONER, the orange skin is a sign of chronic liver damage
If he puts on a performance similar to the first two debates, his poll numbers after the 3rd debate will go down.
He's got a little more than 3 weeks left. If the poll numbers on such sites as 538.com continue to hold, he's going to lose, badly. Christ, even the Fox News poll has Trump down by 7 points. And the Trump candidacy may not even have hit rock bottom yet.
I...really don't see any miracle formula for Trump in terms of helping his chances. Mostly because Trump himself isn't able to exhibit enough self-discipline to go on a debate forum and spend his time explaining exactly how he is going to make America great again. His vague promises and unspecified claims come across as half P.T. Barnum, half Norman Peale. Basically, he offers what amounts to a "See what is inside the Mystery Box!" approach when asked about specifics of his economic plan. He's going to drop the top tax rate from 35% to 15%, yet he will fix America's crumbling infrastructure? Great! Wait a minute...the math doesn't add up. Never mind! Trump is fantastic negotiator and a great businessman! He's going to make huge deals for us!
Even when taking the one claim Trump could seemingly make in terms of being qualified for the presidency - that of a stellar business acumen - seriously, his business history is rife with failed ventures, multiple bankruptcies resulting in settlements where investors got paid pennies on the dollar, failing to pay vendors and purveyors and massive tax deductions/exemptions due to the nature of real estate finance. None of which leaves me with the impression Trump would even have a general awareness of how the federal budget works, much less how to balance it. To his credit, Trump personally rebounded from his many business failures. Many of those who were in business with him in the late 1980s/early 1990s didn't find themselves nearly as lucky when the dust settled and the ink dried. That's why his main business for the last two decades has been that of merely licensing his name.
In terms of total losses, Trump's make the anomalies of the Clinton Foundation pale in comparison.
Trump's solution to the shortcomings of the Affordable Care Act is to repeal the entire law and go back to the laissez-faire model of insurance companies calling all the shots and setting healthcare costs at whatever levels and whatever terms the insurance companies see fit. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize in Economics to see where that will lead in terms of costs to the consumer.
So I'm not even sure what plans Trump could talk about in detail in the 3rd debate, assuming he could even muster up the self-discipline to do so, that aren't standard trickle-down austerity boilerplate that has proven non-lucrative for the vast bulk of Americans.
Maybe some new, substantive bombshells about Hillary Clinton will surface in the last 3 weeks. Short of that, the chances for Donald look slim. Doubtless his concession speech will be something along the lines of "America is full of losers who didn't vote for me. You all deserve what you get!" as he extends a small, chubby middle finger to the cameras and takes a helicopter ride back to one of the golden towers adorned with the massive TRUMP logo. Never for a moment will he consider that the many things he said and did cost him the election: it will be the fault of the voters for failing to elect him.
And good riddance, I say.
That accounts for his sniffing problem, but not the orange skin.It's measured in grams
It's interesting that Clinton didn't choose to put the boot into him over all the leading Republicans saying they aren't going to vote for him.
The thinking is that is tactical and that Trump is poisonous to GOP candidates so don't publicise those opting out.
The polls seem to show a reduced GOP majority but no way the Democrats can take over. I guess that means Clinton wins then domestically nothing will change apart from your president will be a lot less cool and a bit more hawkish in foreign policy.
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Satan needs to release that video of the Clintons selling their souls to him and see how many votes she gets. Fucker probably got tricked into signing a non disclosure contract.
I seem to remember Satan claiming that he signed a contract with Bill, but never with Hillary. Can't blame him for that. Even the Lord of sin and darkness has to have some standards.
Can you remember what the tooth fairy thought?
How did the Easter Bunny feel about the whole Somalia thing?
I wasn't pals with the tooth fairy. We call the guy you thought was the tooth fairy over here a pedophile.
He's OK with it.... as long as all the wackjobs with guns over there realize it's Duck Season!
Rabbit theason.He's OK with it.... as long as all the wackjobs with guns over there realize it's Duck Season!
You'd really need to see a high percentage of "down the ballot" democratic party voters turning out to flip the House Of Representatives. The Senate is MAYBE doable in terms of Democrats getting to 60. Now, had the entire elected/currently holding office Republicans decided to tie their political fortunes to Trump, maybe the Dems would have had a more realistic chance to take back all of the Legislative Branch as well as the Executive one.
However, now that it has been made clear to Republican candidates running in November that there will be no repercussions for not supporting Trump in general, that scenario is less likely.
I still wonder about all this polling stuff.
It used to be quite accurate but after the Brexit thing I'm not sure they have adjusted to the new politics yet.
I hear figures of Clinton 85% likely to win and they are not that different to the referendum here which was 80% and proved to be wrong.
When you get a candidate that is socially embaressing to vote for a lot of people say one thing and vote differently.
Polling in this country is fucked up because it's still mostly done on landlines, which means they're automatically biased in favor of the senior citizens. My horribly techno-phobic parents - same people who never managed to properly program a VCR - somehow managed to teach themselves how to use a cell phone without my help. (Basic phone, of course. They wouldn't know what to do with a smart phone.) Despite this though, they refuse to let go of their landline. Even though 95% of the calls that come in on that line are sales/telemarketers/scam artists/and most likely, some political pollsters. Though my mom would be likely to either hang up on them outright, or tell them she was voting for the Communist party, just to be a smart ass. She doesn't like giving out information about her votes. In this climate, who the Hell could blame her?
She got a laugh when those fake "IRS" scammers from India called her though. She called them out immediately and they responded "suck my dick". Seriously, who (other than possibly Trump) says that to a woman in her 70s? She just laughed at them. Best way to respond, really...
I stopped answering the landline a couple of years ago and stopped even checking the messages last year.
Like a lot of people at this point I'm really not sure why I have it.
The Soviets/Russians? The UK? French? *That includes not allowing the natives to have elections...
I wasn't including not allowing them meaningful elections at all so with that proviso I still think probably the US.
Central and South America for starters...
The hated School Of The Americas and so on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wester...ty_Cooperation
Which to be fair Clinton and Sanders announced they would(finally) close a couple of months ago.
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