Van Hagar To Tour In 2017

[twonabomber]

What? Spam's playing at the Tulalip casino on Thursday? Funny how I've heard NOTHING about this show on the radio. Even on the stations which occasionally play Van Hagar songs before my brain is caffeinated in the morning and put me in a shitty mood all day, as a result.

I've never been to that casino, but I'm assuming it's the same size venue as any of the other tribal casinos around the region, so I'm actually surprised he could sell tickets without publicity.

Sammy's Circle Jerk is playing the Toledo Zoo Amphitheater (?) in September. Someone oughta bust him for animal cruelty!

[FORD]

Somebody think of the poor baby giraffe!

[twonabomber]

Bassplayer was interviewed by the (worthless) local daily rag, promoting last night's Circle Jerk show at the Rocksino.

Q: Regarding the possibility of a Van Halen reunion, you recently commented the time was right. Why?

A: Well, I mean, partly because you obviously see all of these other bands doing it these days. And also for Van Halen’s fans. Maybe some kind of proper closure or something. I’m not sure. Everybody in the band is still relatively healthy and alive. So there’s one thing right there. And Sammy has brought it up quite a few times in interviews he’s done. He’d be open to doing a tour with him and Dave (Lee Roth) singing.

Q: More so, Hagar and Roth already toured together more than a decade ago.

A: Yeah, that tour started kind of harmoniously, but didn’t finish up that way. I went out and guested with Sammy on a handful of those shows and things got maybe a little strained. But at this point, I personally am through with all of the drama that comes with everything. I want to go out, play music and have a good time. I want to go to my grave a happy guy.

Full interview http://www.news-herald.com/arts-and-...und-the-circle

And a review of the Circle Jerk show https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and...hard-rock-live

[Terry]

Bassplayer was interviewed by the (worthless) local daily rag, promoting last night's Circle Jerk show at the Rocksino.

Q: Regarding the possibility of a Van Halen reunion, you recently commented the time was right. Why?

A: Well, I mean, partly because you obviously see all of these other bands doing it these days. And also for Van Halen’s fans. Maybe some kind of proper closure or something. I’m not sure. Everybody in the band is still relatively healthy and alive. So there’s one thing right there. And Sammy has brought it up quite a few times in interviews he’s done. He’d be open to doing a tour with him and Dave (Lee Roth) singing.

Q: More so, Hagar and Roth already toured together more than a decade ago.

A: Yeah, that tour started kind of harmoniously, but didn’t finish up that way. I went out and guested with Sammy on a handful of those shows and things got maybe a little strained. But at this point, I personally am through with all of the drama that comes with everything. I want to go out, play music and have a good time. I want to go to my grave a happy guy.

Full interview http://www.news-herald.com/arts-and-...und-the-circle

And a review of the Circle Jerk show https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and...hard-rock-live

I mean, I couldn't blame Anthony for just plain not wanting to get involved with the Van Halens or Roth at this point.

After decades of having his percentage in Van Halen whittled down, having Eddie reportedly playing most of the bass parts on the Van Halen III album and all of the parts on the BOBW stuff, only being allowed to play on the 2004 after Hagar insisted and apparently paying part of Anthony's end out of [Hagar's own], then having the indignity of Eddie as recently as 2 years ago publicly claiming he had to show Anthony what to play...could anyone really not understand why Anthony is no longer interested in being associated with all of that?

Like, how awkward would that feel for Anthony to take the stage with Roth and the Van Halens now for a tour? Touring with 3 guys who apparently never really valued what he brought to the group to begin with, and really haven't cared that he hasn't been around for some time now?

That Anthony would consider doing it for those of us who would still want to see it says something about him. He's a bigger guy than I am in that respect. For all the invectives that get tossed Anthony's way for being Hagar's butt sniffer or whatever because he has "taken Hagar's side" or "been disployal to the Van Halens" or whatever...hey, Hagar had Anthony's back in a way none of the Van Halens or Roth ever did when all is said and done. Loyalty is a two-way street.

[DONNIEP]

"Everybody in the band is still relatively healthy"...

Odd choice of words...

[FORD]

"Everybody in the band is still relatively healthy"...

Odd choice of words...

Well, they're all over 60 now. Eddie & Alex both apparently have bone issues (given the various spinal & hip issues) and there have been rumors about Dave having back issues for a while now. None of this all that unsual for people of that age who led the kind of lifestyles they did in previous decades.

For a band of geezers they're probably doing fairly well. How many bands of that age still have all the original members on this side of the cemetery grass?

[twonabomber]

There was a clip somewhere (VHND maybe?) where Hagar says he'd do a VH reunion at 70, but not at 75. So it's either we've got four more years of listening to Spammy campaign to get back in VH, or this thread's original prediction comes true and we have something to complain about and goof on again.

[twonabomber]

Pathetic & embarrassing really. I can see why I don't log on here much anymore. Boring, & run by morons.

Hagar hating is good for business. Make Roth Army great again!

[FORD]

Hagar hating is good for business. Make Roth Army great again!

The Ched Rocker and the Cheeto.... a match made in HELL!

[78/84 guy]

I mean, I couldn't blame Anthony for just plain not wanting to get involved with the Van Halens or Roth at this point.

After decades of having his percentage in Van Halen whittled down, having Eddie reportedly playing most of the bass parts on the Van Halen III album and all of the parts on the BOBW stuff, only being allowed to play on the 2004 after Hagar insisted and apparently paying part of Anthony's end out of [Hagar's own], then having the indignity of Eddie as recently as 2 years ago publicly claiming he had to show Anthony what to play...could anyone really not understand why Anthony is no longer interested in being associated with all of that?

Like, how awkward would that feel for Anthony to take the stage with Roth and the Van Halens now for a tour? Touring with 3 guys who apparently never really valued what he brought to the group to begin with, and really haven't cared that he hasn't been around for some time now?

That Anthony would consider doing it for those of us who would still want to see it says something about him. He's a bigger guy than I am in that respect. For all the invectives that get tossed Anthony's way for being Hagar's butt sniffer or whatever because he has "taken Hagar's side" or "been disployal to the Van Halens" or whatever...hey, Hagar had Anthony's back in a way none of the Van Halens or Roth ever did when all is said and done. Loyalty is a two-way street.

I don't think I could blame anyone anyone at all ( name any band member & fans ) just plain not wanting to get involved with Van Halen at this point. It's about over really. I've always I enjoyed your takes Terry but...............I'd find a new band to follow.......Like someone else said a few pages back you seem more interested/involved taking more time to think about the legacy of this band past and present than well.....band members themselves ! Except Hag who won't shut his pie hole. 20, 10, or just 5 years ago there was reason for excitement thinking of what could be. Going back to 96. Or when Dave did get back in a decade ago. Sounding really great. New albums of strong material ? Lots of tours ? Fun interviews with Roth back in the spotlight. All kinds of stuff worth speculating about.......we basically got dick. One solid album and 3 fair tours. The thrill that could have been has passed. Way passed ! If only ? Would've, could've, should've. Or what we MN. sports fans always say. There's always next year right ? WRONG ! They blew it with Roth the second go round period. I guess a boatload of cash in their accounts will do that. They got to charge a lot more than $7.50 these last 3 outings. If they go out for their 40th. Great, I will go if Dave's there. That will be the only reason I will go. And of course Ed. Any sign of Hag with or without Roth no thanks. And I don't expect much from one of them at this point. Nostalgia will get me over the ticket price. Only because I think that might be it for them. Well Ed & Dave together. If it's not over now. Release the vaults at this point and I'm happy. The stuff from when Van Halen was really the real Van Halen.

[Terry]

I don't think I could blame anyone anyone at all ( name any band member & fans ) just plain not wanting to get involved with Van Halen at this point. It's about over really. I've always I enjoyed your takes Terry but...............I'd find a new band to follow.......Like someone else said a few pages back you seem more interested/involved taking more time to think about the legacy of this band past and present than well.....band members themselves ! Except Hag who won't shut his pie hole. 20, 10, or just 5 years ago there was reason for excitement thinking of what could be. Going back to 96. Or when Dave did get back in a decade ago. Sounding really great. New albums of strong material ? Lots of tours ? Fun interviews with Roth back in the spotlight. All kinds of stuff worth speculating about.......we basically got dick. One solid album and 3 fair tours. The thrill that could have been has passed. Way passed ! If only ? Would've, could've, should've. Or what we MN. sports fans always say. There's always next year right ? WRONG ! They blew it with Roth the second go round period. I guess a boatload of cash in their accounts will do that. They got to charge a lot more than $7.50 these last 3 outings. If they go out for their 40th. Great, I will go if Dave's there. That will be the only reason I will go. And of course Ed. Any sign of Hag with or without Roth no thanks. And I don't expect much from one of them at this point. Nostalgia will get me over the ticket price. Only because I think that might be it for them. Well Ed & Dave together. If it's not over now. Release the vaults at this point and I'm happy. The stuff from when Van Halen was really the real Van Halen.

I think I was the one who a few pages back said I've put more thought into the band than they themselves have! And I honestly was only (at best) half kidding!!

I can't disagree with anything you said.

1996 was really the last time I actually got what I'd call 'excited' over the future prospects of the band. And Van Halen blew it in 1996.

By the time Roth re-rejoined in 2007, it was less a case of being excited than it was a feeling of 'about fucking time!' and Eddie's kid now being in the band wasn't exactly thrilling.

I thought ADKOT was a decent effort, perhaps more because it seemed half-miraculous we even got any Van Halen music at all than the intrinsic merits of the album itself. I mean, ADKOT was okay. Quite good in a few spots, forgettable in a few others.

But much like 1996, ADKOT didn't really end up being a catalyst to ushering in a new creative era. Or is a new album for every ten years of on-and-off touring what is to be expected from Van Halen these days in terms of output?

And like yourself, it's the unreleased CVH era stuff I find myself far more interested in than anything the band can potentially do in the future. I sat the last tour out because there was nothing happening at those shows that was essential to me.

But, I gotta tell ya, I'm crowding 50 years old: there really aren't any new bands I want to bother following at this point. Granted, continuing to follow Van Halen these days is a sure-fire recipe for a constant letdown...maybe I'll become a Red Rocker Red Head Ched Head instead, and just resign myself up front to a fandom celebrating mediocrity.

[78/84 guy]

I think I was the one who a few pages back said I've put more thought into the band than they themselves have! And I honestly was only (at best) half kidding!!

I can't disagree with anything you said.

1996 was really the last time I actually got what I'd call 'excited' over the future prospects of the band. And Van Halen blew it in 1996.

By the time Roth re-rejoined in 2007, it was less a case of being excited than it was a feeling of 'about fucking time!' and Eddie's kid now being in the band wasn't exactly thrilling.

I thought ADKOT was a decent effort, perhaps more because it seemed half-miraculous we even got any Van Halen music at all than the intrinsic merits of the album itself. I mean, ADKOT was okay. Quite good in a few spots, forgettable in a few others.

But much like 1996, ADKOT didn't really end up being a catalyst to ushering in a new creative era. Or is a new album for every ten years of on-and-off touring what is to be expected from Van Halen these days in terms of output?

And like yourself, it's the unreleased CVH era stuff I find myself far more interested in than anything the band can potentially do in the future. I sat the last tour out because there was nothing happening at those shows that was essential to me.

But, I gotta tell ya, I'm crowding 50 years old: there really aren't any new bands I want to bother following at this point. Granted, continuing to follow Van Halen these days is a sure-fire recipe for a constant letdown...maybe I'll become a Red Rocker Red Head Ched Head instead, and just resign myself up front to a fandom celebrating mediocrity.

Well the history of what Van Halen was will always be worth celebrating......I guess that's what these Van Halen/Roth websites have mostly become. What Ed didn't want Van Halen to become. Nostalgia. I guess I'm at the point of how many times can we break down what Fair Warning was about, or meant to us ? I'm starting to find it boring. Not the music but the talk of what was, could have & should be. I check in from time to time. But.......it's almost like nothing has changed in a decade with these guys. A good album and the tours are almost a side note. Sure A.D.K.O.T. generated some worthwhile excitement at the time. Then Dave comes out sounding mediocre on the tour. The live Tokyo album was a waste of time. Other than an excuse to tour. And Dave again comes out sounding mediocre. It makes the what next (if there is one ) kind of.......oh hum. I'm hoping they go out with some kind of bang next year. A good album ( I won't hold my breath ) and Dave giving a shit on stage again. ( I won't hold my breath ) If not ? Oh hum......the classic music is still there I guess.

[Terry]

Well the history of what Van Halen was will always be worth celebrating......I guess that's what these Van Halen/Roth websites have mostly become. What Ed didn't want Van Halen to become. Nostalgia. I guess I'm at the point of how many times can we break down what Fair Warning was about, or meant to us ? I'm starting to find it boring. Not the music but the talk of what was, could have & should be. I check in from time to time. But.......it's almost like nothing has changed in a decade with these guys. A good album and the tours are almost a side note. Sure A.D.K.O.T. generated some worthwhile excitement at the time. Then Dave comes out sounding mediocre on the tour. The live Tokyo album was a waste of time. Other than an excuse to tour. And Dave again comes out sounding mediocre. It makes the what next (if there is one ) kind of.......oh hum. I'm hoping they go out with some kind of bang next year. A good album ( I won't hold my breath ) and Dave giving a shit on stage again. ( I won't hold my breath ) If not ? Oh hum......the classic music is still there I guess.

Oh, yeah, for sure...I mean, I can still listen to any of those 6-pack albums, and the music still sounds just as vital to me as it did back then. That CVH stuff continues to resonate like a motherfucker all these years later to my ears.

Far as posting about that stuff, I'd agree there really isn't too much more left to say that is worth reading: in many ways, the music continues to speak for itself in a way that mere words don't really do justice to.

What the band has devolved into over the last 2 decades is just this aging soap opera, and it's understandable that people continue to talk about the soap opera, because virtually none of the musical output over the last 2 decades is even worth talking about.

And I'd agree on the whole that the long-awaited Roth reunion hasn't exactly produced stellar results. The band just waited too long to get their shit together. Dave was good on the first reunion tour. Ed wasn't. Dave was half-assing it the second reunion tour, Ed had regained his abilities. The Tokyo Dome album was a bit of an embarrassment, far as I am concerned: this is the one official live release representing what Roth did with the band? A bit pathetic. And Dave's abilities continued to wane on the last tour...

I mean, in retrospect, the band really did end in 1985. Everything since then has been them basically picking at the carcass, and what is left now is some pretty thin, meatless gruel. Like, Van Halen now as a performing entity are really no more special than any other number of aging rock acts churning out the greatest hits, minus some definitive members, and not able to cut the mustard 100%. And that's just not good enough for me to spend time and money seeing anymore.

Yeah, it'd be neat if Anthony rejoined and CVH did a tour next year, gave it their best shot, then called it a day. It's really the only scenario I'd consider paying to see. Like you, I won't hold my breath, either: these guys have sadly proven amazingly adept at fucking up what should be a sure thing.

The classic music IS still there...forever. Still so good it manages to age better and better with each passing year, unlike the group themselves.

[vandeleur]

Maybe ADKOT should have been called Lazarus reflex.
Think that's the jerky movements things make after they are dead

[Fairwrning]

Shame Gene Simmons didnt manage this band..we would be up to our ears in CVH videos and unheard tracks. Perhaps the Cap Center show in Largo would have been an official release. Probably the best recorded show Ive seen....at least the US festival would be officially released.As far as ADKOT, it was awesome imo other than sounding like it was recorded in a barrel...There is an alternate version of DTNA out there that sounds great...$immons would have recorded, and released, it all..