Presidential Vote Audit

[Seshmeister]

Personally I don't think there is anything in this, the US system is too messy and disperately complicated to rig the actual vote. Rigging voting law is maybe a different matter...

Nothing wrong with checking it though and it's a good thing to reduce any conspiracy nonsense and compared to the cost of the election it's small change.

Part of this comes back to the bubble thing, some people can't believe Trump won because they don't know anyone that voted for him. Same thing happened here among people I knew with the independance vote who were astonished that the vote went against them.

The Clinton camp have even said they don't expect a different result.

What is totally ridiculous is Trumps response...

[cadaverdog]

What is totally ridiculous is Trumps response...

I totally agree. He should have thanked them two bitches for being such gracious losers and invited them to his inauguration. As a gesture of goodwill he should ask Obama to administer the oath of office. After he finishes and declares Trump President Trump should extend his hand to Obama then pull it back before he can shake it and say thought you had a friend.

[Nickdfresh]

I totally agree. He should have thanked them two bitches for being such gracious losers and invited them to his inauguration. As a gesture of goodwill he should ask Obama to administer the oath of office. After he finishes and declares Trump President Trump should extend his hand to Obama then pull it back before he can shake it and say thought you had a friend.

Naw, he's given Obama enough handjobs already...

I agree there's probably nothing to it and all the counties in question had Trump's demographic more or less...

[cadaverdog]

I agree there's probably nothing to it and all the counties in question had Trump's demographic more or less...

Sounds like you're finally waking up and getting a big whiff or liberal hypocrisy. Liberals were certain Clinton was gonna win and Trump was gonna contest the results threatening democracy along the way . But instead he won and she's contesting the results but liberals are still claiming Trump is the one threatening democracy.

[FORD]

Liberals believe that BOTH Drumpf AND Hillary are threats to Democracy.

Bottom line is that this election was stolen TWICE. If there's going to be a recount, let's start with the primaries.

[cadaverdog]

Liberals believe that BOTH Drumpf AND Hillary are threats to Democracy.

Bottom line is that this election was stolen TWICE. If there's going to be a recount, let's start with the primaries.

Keep dreaming. Sanders isn't going to be President no matter how much you wish for it. On top of that the primaries don't mean shit. Neither party is obligated by law to give the nomination to the winner of their primaries. The Dems used super delegates to hand Hillary the nomination this time but next time they might just say fuck the results and nominate some other loser.
BTW. The election wasn't stolen at all. Trump won fair and square but you can't accept that. Maybe you should have thought about it a little longer before you voted for Stein.

[FORD]

Drumpf "won" his nomination by a lower number than any Repuke candidate before him. Due to the crowded clown car, he won most of his primaries with less than 30% of the vote. He never got an actual majority (50% or better) until the New York primary.... and if the Republican side there was as corrupt as the Democratic side was, that's probably not even a real number. And there's also the fact that many state Republican parties have "winner take all" primaries, so you could have Cheeto win with 34% of the vote, but end up with 100% of the delegates.

This is all perfectly legal of course. But it serves as a reminder of how few people actually voted for this orange assclown. Along with the general election vote, where (all recounts aside) Drumpf got less votes than Hillcunt, and half of the eligible voters didn't vote for EITHER of them.

So your so called "pResident-elect" was elected by 24% of the voters, after being nominated by far less than that. By that definition alone, he doesn't represent the majority of the American people. By the fascist bullshit he spouts and the racist bigoted assholes he's surrounding himself with, he represents even less.

As a matter of fact, these cabinet picks - along with random tweets about arresting flag burners - make it seem as though Cheeto is still trolling, making it obvious that he does not want the job of President, and begging the Electoral College to do their job and get his orange ass out of there.

Which is why we need to recount the primaries first, so the Electors will know who to vote for. And it ain't Hillcunt.

As for my vote for Jill Stein, it made no difference one way or the other in the electoral vote count.

[Nickdfresh]

Sounds like you're finally waking up and getting a big whiff or liberal hypocrisy. Liberals were certain Clinton was gonna win and Trump was gonna contest the results threatening democracy along the way . But instead he won and she's contesting the results but liberals are still claiming Trump is the one threatening democracy.

Most of the people reporting this are "liberals" in your little mind. Mainstream ones albeit, but I think the NY Times guy says there's nothing to it and even the people carrying it out say "there's no smoking gun"...

It's called operation on "facts" as opposed to "what I want to believe"...

[Nickdfresh]

Drumpf "won" his nomination by a lower number than any Repuke candidate before him. Due to the crowded clown car, he won most of his primaries with less than 30% of the vote. He never got an actual majority (50% or better) until the New York primary.... and if the Republican side there was as corrupt as the Democratic side was, that's probably not even a real number. And there's also the fact that many state Republican parties have "winner take all" primaries, so you could have Cheeto win with 34% of the vote, but end up with 100% of the delegates.

This is all perfectly legal of course. But it serves as a reminder of how few people actually voted for this orange assclown. Along with the general election vote, where (all recounts aside) Drumpf got less votes than Hillcunt, and half of the eligible voters didn't vote for EITHER of them.

So your so called "pResident-elect" was elected by 24% of the voters, after being nominated by far less than that. By that definition alone, he doesn't represent the majority of the American people. By the fascist bullshit he spouts and the racist bigoted assholes he's surrounding himself with, he represents even less.

As a matter of fact, these cabinet picks - along with random tweets about arresting flag burners - make it seem as though Cheeto is still trolling, making it obvious that he does not want the job of President, and begging the Electoral College to do their job and get his orange ass out of there.

Which is why we need to recount the primaries first, so the Electors will know who to vote for. And it ain't Hillcunt.

None of which really matters...

As for my vote for Jill Stein, it made no difference one way or the other in the electoral vote count.

Actually she may have soaked up just enough votes to have...

[cadaverdog]

This is all perfectly legal of course. But it serves as a reminder of how few people actually voted for this orange assclown. Along with the general election vote, where (all recounts aside) Drumpf got less votes than Hillcunt, and half of the eligible voters didn't vote for EITHER of them.

The popular vote means nothing. If it was the other way around and Hillary won the electoral college but Trump won the popular vote it wouldn't be an issue for you at all. Like I said before liberals are the biggest threat to democracy this country has ever faced but the rest of us aren't going to roll over and play dead while you destroy America. You can talk all the shit you want about Cascadia but you're gonna find out we're tired of your bullshit and if something happens to overturn Trump's victory there will be repercussions.

[Nickdfresh]

The popular vote means nothing....

Yes it does. It means he clearly has no large mandate from the people, which is already why he's acting erratic during his fumblefucking clusterfuck of selecting his cabinet...

[cadaverdog]

None of which really matters...
Actually she may have soaked up just enough votes to have...

He lives on Fantasy island. He had a chance to cast his vote for the only candidate that could have beaten Trump but he chose to waste it instead. Now he's crying because the person he didn't vote for lost.

[cadaverdog]

Yes it does. It means he clearly has no large mandate from the people, which is already why he's acting erratic during his fumblefucking clusterfuck of selecting his cabinet...

Mandate, shmandate. Trump won the election according to the rules that were in place when the election was held. That should be the end of it but some people have a hard time accepting defeat.

[cadaverdog]

Most of the people reporting this are "liberals" in your little mind. Mainstream ones albeit, but I think the NY Times guy says there's nothing to it and even the people carrying it out say "there's no smoking gun"...

What point are you arguing? If you're saying the recount bullshit is bullshit I agree.

[Terry]

Yeah, I don't really see a recount actually producing victories for Hillary in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Short of some massive PROVABLE fraud on the part of the GOP. And I don't think fraud was what produced the results in those three states. In the end, Clinton wasn't a strong enough candidate re: answering the economic concerns of those voters in those counties of those states that went for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and voted for Trump this year. And the donor class democratic answer that was basically inferred (the information economy has passed you by, so tough shit, because manufacturing jobs aren't coming back) to those voters wasn't going to resonate the way Make America Great Again did, hoax-ridden as Trump's campaign rhetoric was.

Hopefully, after Trump, Pence and Ryan privatize everything, push through their tax cuts for the wealthy and leave the middle/working classes with the bill (which will be readily apparent when the first full-year Trump Tax Season rolls around), the Trump voters in the servant classes will realize they were taken for a ride and won't be distracted when Steve Bannon tweets on Trump's twitter feed that the higher taxes they are now paying are clearly Obama's fault: the Republicans now have control of the government...are they able to do anything other than obstruct, cut and slash and say 'no'?

Maybe - MAYBE (and even that is a very, very long shot at best) - Michigan might have a different outcome in terms of the recount. And even that is, what, a 10,000+ vote difference as of right now? And that is the smallest difference among all three states. I don't recall a recount where such a large difference was flipped in favor of the person who was behind.

[Terry]

Yes it does. It means he clearly has no large mandate from the people, which is already why he's acting erratic during his fumblefucking clusterfuck of selecting his cabinet...

I put down the erratic nature to Trump just plain winging it, like he has done all along.

[FORD]

Cuck Schumer better have the balls to block any and all of his cabinet picks who are not qualified to serve in the position Cheeto nominated them for. And so far, that would be all of them.

[cadaverdog]

Cuck Schumer better have the balls to block any and all of his cabinet picks who are not qualified to serve in the position Cheeto nominated them for.

What are you gonna do if he doesn't?

[twonabomber]

What are you gonna do if he doesn't?

Come here and cry about it?

[FORD]

What are you gonna do if he doesn't?

<---- Secession now!!

[Seshmeister]

<---- Secession now!!

Not even a remote chance.

[Nickdfresh]

Ford, you can't secede because you lost an election...

[FORD]

Not even a remote chance.

That's what they said about Brexit. And they had a whole lot less valid of a reason to "secede" from the EU than Cascadia does from a likely totalitarian fascist state

[Nickdfresh]

Well good luck with that!

[FORD]

Ford, you can't secede because you lost an election...

It's one thing to lose an election to a legitimate - if wrong headed - candidate (as it was in 1980, 1984, and 1988, among others).

It's something entirely different to have somebody who is completely incapable of holding the office, surrounded by literal Hitlerian fascists, and only "winning" the election by the extensive use of a voter suppression database written by another white supremacist fascist, Kristopher K. Kobach of the Kansas Ku Klux Klan.

[Seshmeister]

That's what they said about Brexit. And they had a whole lot less valid of a reason to "secede" from the EU than Cascadia does from a likely totalitarian fascist state

The unlikelyness of Brexit is being overplayed, it was always at 40% or higher in polls. Your thing is closer to half that in popularity, and is meant to include Trump voting states and part of Canada when it's not even clear that any seccession from the US is even legal.

It's not going to happen in your lifetime, better to spend your time on another dream...

I agree it's no more stupid an idea than Brexit though but that is the lowest bar in the world...

[FORD]

BC just got a whole new reason to secede from Canada today. Seems that Justin Trudeau ain't as good of a guy as the Hosers thought he was. He wants to build a toxic death pipeline across the Canadian Rockies and into BC, dumping it into the water off the coast north of Vancouver. And that's too damn close for that level of pollution.

So they might be ready for secession north of the Peace Arch as well.

[cadaverdog]

It's one thing to lose an election to a legitimate - if wrong headed - candidate (as it was in 1980, 1984, and 1988, among others)

In other words you've never approved of the President but we're still here alive and kicking in the land of the free and the home of the brave. And one of the things that makes this country great is the freedom to leave anytime you want. So instead of wasting your time wishing for miracles that never come you should use that time packing your bags and moving to Canada. Au revoir mon ami. Don't let the screen door hitcha where the good lord splitcha. Say hi to Angel for me. Bye.

[Seshmeister]

And one of the things that makes this country great is the freedom to leave anytime you want.

So you are saying every country in the world is great apart from North Korea?

Leaving isn't the difficult bit, finding somewhere that will take you is.

[cadaverdog]

So you are saying every country in the world is great apart from North Korea?

I said one of the things, not the only thing.