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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Russia has responded to America expelling 38 diplomats for charges of spying and internet warefare by changing all the Whitehouse passwords.
fuck your fucking framing
Since I'm not as rabid as some here when it comes to politics I've given Obama the benefit of the doubt on quite a few things including Obamacare but this is just stupid. As far as I know nobody has proved Russia has done jack shit.
Now I'm reading how Obama was compelled to punish Russia because he assumes Trump wouldn't. Meanwhile Putin has denied his advisers suggestions to react to Obama's sanctions while suggesting this is an attempt by Obama to screw with Trump.
Sounds like something Obama and the DNC would do.
Last edited by cadaverdog; 12-31-2016 at 02:29 PM.
Beware of Dog
This is something that strikes me as a european as strange. US has always treated communism as their worst enemy, but now all of a sudden Mr Putin is a god guy?Originally Posted by cadaverdog
I'm not sure what his religious beliefs are.
Pooty is "religious" in the same sense that most of the later Roman emperors were. He believes that HE is a god. And apparently his royal Orange emperor Herr Cheeto is a True Believer.
This is life inside the bubble - I've seen people on your TV 'News' say the same thing.
Firstly all your intelligence agencies have categorically said the Russians did the hacking and have said it since October. So you are saying you trust the Russian government more than your own which is surprising particularly given some of the whacked out stuff they do like murdering journalists and rival politicians.
Secondly it's not just the CIA saying this, it's the FBI and NSA. These groups work as rivals.
Thirdly http://usuncut.com/politics/the-fbi-...ction-hacking/
You guys need to be careful about how you are getting your information. You should clear your cookies.
I rarely watch TV. When I do it's not to watch the news. Your assumption that I'm brainwashed by right wing extremists is incorrect. I've spent way more time watching and listening to left wing extremists whose videos get posted here that I do watching and listening to right wing extremists. Politics outside of this web site don't take up much of my time.
I don't trust anyone.
Sure they do.
Whatevs.
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. I could use another good laugh tonight.
Good for him. Everybody needs something to believe in.
Well... at the risk of sounding like a John Birch Society right wing wackjob, circa 1968 or so.....
If Cheeto loves Putin and Russia so goddamn much, he should fucking move there!!
You got 19 days to get out of town before the Fourth Reich begins. If I was you I'd be too busy packing my bags to be posting such nonsense. Heil Trump!
In the real Fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go.....
I don't doubt any of the "Intelligence reports" from the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc that say the Russians have been hacking in many places, both in governmental systems and private industry.This is life inside the bubble - I've seen people on your TV 'News' say the same thing.
Firstly all your intelligence agencies have categorically said the Russians did the hacking and have said it since October. So you are saying you trust the Russian government more than your own which is surprising particularly given some of the whacked out stuff they do like murdering journalists and rival politicians.
Secondly it's not just the CIA saying this, it's the FBI and NSA. These groups work as rivals.
Thirdly http://usuncut.com/politics/the-fbi-...ction-hacking/
You guys need to be careful about how you are getting your information. You should clear your cookies.
Specifically in direct relation to the election results though... I think the whole notion that Russia played any significant role in altering the election results is a bunch of bullshit.
The only matter I see from all this is they "may" have hacked Podesta's gmail account and fed the contents to wikileaks exposing internal Democratic crap. But it was verified that the content within those e-mails was not altered in any way... just exposed. No voting machines were compromised. No vote counts were hacked. Just a private e-mail account hosted on google.
With all that in mind... Trump had already beaten 16 Republican contenders in the primaries before any of the wikileaks stuff was released. Most American voters had already made up their minds on who they were voting for long before any of this was released. At best maybe a tiny portion of fence-sitters may have been swayed by this crap, but that's a huge stretch of the imagination.
My opinion is Russia may have played around... but I don't see any evidence that any of their bullshit swayed the American voters enough to credit their involvement as a significant factor in the election results. Enough people in the heartland of this country outside of the major population centers chose an unlikely change advocate... I feel confident those folks didn't give a shit what any Russians thought about it.
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
Whatever you want to believe, old man...
I think it's not impossible given how close the election ended up being, that a bunch of democrats didn't vote at all because of the Russian hack but I think the FBI email (non)story the week before was much more important and probably swung it.
The FBI thing combined with Fake News did her in mainly...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...Ejx#.nbzzAyE6O
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-03-2017 at 11:00 AM.
What did her in was the fact she didn't think she could possibly lose even though the primaries proved otherwise. The Liberal media thought the same thing. Obviously they were wrong. If both parties were smart (they're not) they'd run their own primaries using their own rules. If someone like Bernie comes along and looks like he might be a contender the DNC (or the RNC) manipulates the results and he loses but nobody but the top dogs know he actually won. The penalty for challenging the party's integrity would be a swift kick out of the party.
U.S. spy agencies detail Russia’s role in boosting Trump
Yahoo News Michael Isikoff
Chief Investigative Correspondent
Yahoo NewsJanuary 6, 2017
Russian President Vladimir Putin personally ordered a wide-ranging campaign to disrupt the American presidential election, seeking to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton and boost the chances of the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, according to an unusually detailed declassified report released by the U.S. intelligence community Friday.
The Kremlin efforts involved cyberattacks, state funded propaganda, including by its RT TV network, and social media “trolls.” Russia’s military intelligence hacked the emails of the Democratic National Committee and other Democratic political leaders and then “relayed material it acquired” to WikiLeaks. The intelligence community reached that conclusion with “high confidence,” directly refuting statements this week by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that he did not receive hacked emails from the Russian government.
The 14-page report, a public version of a more extensive classified assessment briefed to President Obama on Thursday and President-elect Trump on Friday, goes well beyond previous public statements by U.S. intelligence community officials about the election. It includes several alarming new details: In early 2014, it says, Russian intelligence began researching “U.S. electoral processes and related technology and equipment” and later “obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards.” The type of systems compromised, however, were not involved in vote tallying.
The report also delves more deeply than earlier statements into Putin’s motives for ordering the influence campaign. Beyond the Kremlin’s longstanding interest in undermining “the US-led liberal democratic order,” Putin viewed the release of the Panama Papers (revealing the secret bank accounts of several of his associates) and the Olympic doping scandal as “US-directed efforts to defame Russia.” He also “most likely” wanted to discredit Clinton because he “holds a grudge” against her for public comments she made supporting protests in Moscow and other cities against the 2011 Russian elections that kept Putin’s party, United Russia, in power.
But it also cites one reason that Putin appeared to look favorably on Trump — the president-elect’s business background, including dealings over the years in Russia: “Putin has had many positive experiences working with Western political leaders whose business interests made them more disposed to deal with Russia, such as former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.” (After leaving office, Schroeder joined the board of Gazprom, the Russian energy giant, and has maintained close ties to Putin.)
Even when polls indicated Trump losing, the Russians continued their efforts to undermine Clinton, according to the intelligence report. “When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the presidency, the Russian influence campaign focused more on undercutting Secretary Clinton’s legitimacy and crippling her presidency from its start, including by impugning the fairness of the election,” the report states.
The report was released shortly after Trump received a classified briefing on its contents at Trump Tower by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey and CIA Director John Brennan. Trump then released a public statement that avoided any mention of its principal conclusions — that the Russians sought to defeat his opponent and elect him — and focused instead on its finding that no actual vote tallies were compromised.
ICA_2017_01 by Yahoo News on Scribd
“While Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations including the Democrat National Committee, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines,” Trump said in a statement. “There were attempts to hack the Republican National Committee, but the RNC had strong hacking defenses and the hackers were unsuccessful.” (The report notes that the Russians targeted both major political parties, but does not indicate whether it penetrated the Republican National Committee.)
Trump’s statement drew an immediate rebuke from Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the ranking minority member on the House Intelligence Committee. “The president-elect’s statement that the Russian hacking had ‘absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election’ is not supported by the briefing, report or common sense,” he said. “It is one thing to say that there was no tampering with vote tallying — which is true — it is another thing to say that the daily dumping of documents disparaging to Secretary Clinton that was made possible by Russian cyber-operations had no effect on the campaigns. The consequence of these disclosures was hugely beneficial to the president-elect and damaging to the Clinton campaign, just as the Russians intended. Whether they had a decisive impact on the outcome will never be known and was certainly not the subject of the intelligence community’s analysis, but that they were of great consequence is undeniable.”
It’s far from clear that the report will settle the ongoing debate in Washington over the role of Moscow in the 2016 elections. It discloses little of the evidence that supports its conclusions, saying only as a general matter that intelligence analysts integrate information from “human sources, technical collection and open sources.” It says that making attribution in cyber-operations is “difficult but not impossible. Every kind of cyber-operation — malicious or not — leaves a trail.”
The report also indicates there was little dissent among the intelligence agencies about the findings. It says the entire intelligence community has “high confidence” that Putin ordered the influence and hacking campaign to “undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process” and “denigrate” Clinton. On another major finding — that Putin and the Russian government intended to boost Trump — the CIA and FBI have “high confidence” in that conclusion. The National Security Agency has “moderate confidence” in that judgment.
Warning that the Russian operation portends a “new normal” in Russian efforts to undermine Western democracies, the report sounds an alarm about the danger that “Moscow will apply lessons learned from its campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts in the United States and worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.”
One of the more revealing sections of the report deals with RT, the Russian worldwide television network, which regularly airs programming denigrating the United States, including allegations that American elections are rigged and that the United States is a “surveillance state.” The Kremlin has invested $190 million a year in RT programming and now, according to its website, reaches more than 550 million people. The report notes that RT has “actively collaborated” with WikiLeaks; its editor-in-chief visited Assange at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London in August 2013 and reached an agreement to provide access to “new leaks of secret information.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-spy-a...233520033.html
John McCain passes FBI dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts
Russian intelligence alleged to have compromising material on Trump
‘Unverified and potentially unverifiable’ reports published by BuzzFeed
Donald Trump and his inner circle ‘have received a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals’, a report dated June 2016 alleges.
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday 11 January 2017 07.58 EST
Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself.
The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant. BuzzFeed on Tuesday published the documents, which it said were “unverified and potentially unverifiable”.
The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents’ contents, and the Trump team has consistently denied any hidden contacts with the Russian government.
A spokesman for the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday denied Russia has collected compromising information on Trump and dismissed news reports as a “complete fabrication and utter nonsense”. Dmitry Peskov insisted that the Kremlin “does not engage in collecting compromising material”.
Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but late on Tuesday, Trump tweeted: “FAKE NEWS – A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” He made no direct reference to the allegations.
James Comey refuses to tell Senate if FBI is investigating Trump-Russia links
An official in the US administration who spoke to the Guardian described the source who wrote the intelligence report as consistently reliable, meticulous and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts.
Some of the reports – which are dated from 20 June to 20 October last year – also proved to be prescient, predicting events that happened after they were sent.
One report, dated June 2016, claims that the Kremlin has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years, with the aim of encouraging “splits and divisions in western alliance”.
It claims that Trump had declined “various sweetener real estate deals offered him in Russia” especially in developments linked to the 2018 World Cup finals but that “he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.”
Most explosively, the report alleges: “FSB has compromised Trump through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.” The president-elect has not responded to the allegations.
CNN reported on Tuesday that the FBI was still investigating the credibility of the documents but added that the intelligence chiefs had included a summary of the material in a secret briefing on Russian interference in the election delivered last week to Barack Obama and Donald Trump.
The emergence of the documents is potentially explosive, 10 days before Trump’s inauguration and on the eve of his first planned press conference since July last year.
Despite glowing references from US and foreign officials who have worked with the source, there are some errors in the reports. One describes the Moscow suburb of Barvikha as “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates”, but although it is a very expensive neighbourhood, there are no restrictions on who can own property there. The document also misspells the name of a Russian banking corporation.
The FBI does not normally make any comment on ongoing counter-intelligence investigations but was under increasing pressure from Democrats and some Republicans to act before the inauguration, particularly because of Comey’s announcement of a continuing investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server 11 days before the election, which many of her supporters believe cost her the presidency.
The reports were initially commissioned as opposition research during the presidential campaign, but its author was sufficiently alarmed by what he discovered to send a copy to the FBI. It is unclear who within the organisation they reached and what action the bureau took. The former Democratic Senate leader, Harry Reid, has lambasted Comey for publicising investigations into Hillary Clinton’s private server, while allegedly sitting on “explosive” material on Trump’s ties to Russia.
Another Democratic senator, Ron Wyden, questioned Comey insistently at a Senate intelligence committee hearing on Tuesday on whether the FBI was pursuing leads on Trump campaign contacts with Russia.
“Has the FBI investigated these reported relationships?” Wyden asked.
Comey replied: “I would never comment on investigations … in a public forum.
The Guardian can confirm that the documents reached the top of the FBI by December. Senator John McCain, who was informed about the existence of the documents separately by an intermediary from a western allied state, dispatched an emissary overseas to meet the source and then decided to present the material to Comey in a one-on-one meeting on 9 December, according to a source aware of the meeting. The documents, which were first reported on last year by Mother Jones, are also in the hands of officials in the White House.
McCain is not thought to have made a judgment on the reliability of the documents but was sufficiently impressed by the source’s credentials to feel obliged to pass them to the FBI.
The Senate armed services committee, which Senator McCain chairs, launched an inquiry last week into Russian cyber-attacks during the election.
McCain was reluctant to get involved, according to a colleague, for fear the issue would be dismissed as a personal grudge against Trump. He pushed instead for the creation of a special Senate committee to look into connections between campaign staff and Moscow, but the proposal was blocked by the Republican leadership.
McCain told the NBC programme Meet the Press on Sunday: “I would like to see a select committee. Apparently that is not in agreement by our leadership. So we will move forward with the armed services committee and I’m sure foreign relations and intelligence committee will as well.”
But the senator added: “It is possible if enough information comes out, that that decision could be reversed. I still think it’s the best way to attack the issue.”
Asked on the same programme on whether an investigation was ongoing into campaign links to Moscow, Senator Lindsey Graham, another conservative Republican said: “I believe that it’s happening.”
According to the report passed to Comey, Russian intelligence allegedly gathered compromising material during Trump’s stay in Moscow in November 2013, when he was in the city to host the Miss Universe pageant.
Another report, dated 19 July last year said that Carter Page, a businessman named by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, had held a secret meeting that month with Igor Sechin, head of the Rosneft state-owned oil company and a long-serving lieutenant of Vladimir Putin. Page also allegedly met Igor Divyekin, an internal affairs official with a background in intelligence, who is said to have warned Page that Moscow had “kompromat” (compromising material) on Trump.
Two months later, allegations of Page’s meetings surfaced in the US media, attributed to intelligence sources, along with reports that he had been under FBI scrutiny.
Page, a vociferous supporter of the Kremlin line, was in Moscow in July to make a speech decrying western policy towards Russia. At the time he declined to say whether he had been in contact with Russian officials, but in September he rejected the reports as “garbage”.
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.
A month after Trump’s surprise election victory, Page was back in Moscow saying he was meeting with “business leaders and thought leaders”, dismissing the FBI investigation as a “witch-hunt” and suggesting the Russian hacking of the Democratic Party alleged by US intelligence agencies, could be a false flag operation to incriminate Moscow.
Another of the reports compiled by the former western counter-intelligence official in July said that members of Trump’s team, which was led by campaign manager Paul Manafort (a former consultant for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine), had knowledge of the DNC hacking operation, and in return “had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine”.
A few days later, Trump raised the possibility that his administration might recognise Russia’s annexation of Crimea and openly called on Moscow to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails.
In August, officials from the Trump campaign intervened in the drafting of the Republican party platform, specifically to remove a call for lethal assistance to Ukraine for its battle against Moscow-backed eastern rebels.
Manafort stepped down in August as campaign manager and the campaign steadily distanced itself from Page. However, Trump’s praise of Putin and defence of Moscow’s actions in Ukraine and Syria remained one of the few constants in his campaign talking points.
Manafort has denied secret links with Moscow calling the allegation “an outrageous smear being driven by Harry Reid and the Clinton campaign”.
Since then, Trump has consistently cast doubt on Russian culpability for hacking the Democratic National Committee, defying a consensus of 17 national intelligence agencies. After Obama deported 35 Russian diplomats in retaliation for Moscow’s intervention, Trump praised Putin for not carrying out tit-for-tat deportations of US diplomats. “I always knew he was very smart,” he tweeted.
An FBI spokesman declined to comment after the CNN report.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ussia-contacts
Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-11-2017 at 09:33 AM.
See full "unverified" documents at BUZZFEED here.
Seems that Cheeto is a nasty little Oompa Loompa.....
So, I'm beginning to wonder what a Pence Presidency will look like...
Sadly it will probably be Koch Brothers/Ayn Rand economic policies combined with 7 mountains theocratic "Christian" shariah law.
The thing about that if it happens though shows how uniquely shit both the US and UK electoral systems are.So, I'm beginning to wonder what a Pence Presidency will look like...
We now have a PM who maybe 8-10% of the electorate would have actually voted for, Pence is similar - in an actual election against a sane candidate he is unelectable.
I want you failing press losers to listen to me.....
I did NOT have urinal relations with those fucking Commie hookers!!!
Anybody who says I did, that's fake news. Bigly!!
an adult in the room vs the water boy.........
little marco indeed...
A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder
A treasonous shit bag who is destroying the planet is your idea of an "adult" in the room??
As for Rubio..... you voted for him, didn't you?
TARD, you couldn't carry Tillerson's trash to the curb. rubio is an amnesty queen and anchor baby as far as i know.
but...........
the whole ridiculous premise of this thread is really funny: if the big red USSR wanted trump to win so bad,
how did granny rod ham get 3 million more votes?
and off topic:::wayyyyy off topic::::
what's that tinfoil on your head for????????????
Fuck Rexxon Drillerson in the ass with a sledgehammer, using his own toxic goo as lube.
As an oil industry pig alone, he is deserving of a slow painful death. As a fucking Communist agent on top of that, even more so.. And in either case, he is not REMOTELY qualified to be the Secretary of State.
heh heh.... oilmen understand more than your little world can take in. they know the land the pipelines are going in, where the wells are, how the platfoms function and the politics going on in each 3rd world location and the shit balls running those 3rd world administrations. and oilmen get the deals done. it doesn't get much more complicated than iraq and russia. you're out of your league to comment. sit and watch, take your wrist out of your mouth, and pull your head out your ass so you can hear.....
if you want to comment on how the guy queered the boyscouts, well,,,, you and a few others here at the RA are more than qualified........
Stellar typical third grade writing style of a drunken lunatic. It's called the electoral system...
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