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    Trump press conference a thing of beautiful chaos or nah

    Just watched the press conference live steam ( no pun) and wow.
    It's exciting , he has a Leslie Nielsen naked gun thing going on for sure.

    It's scary and fun, it's like it's a show.
    It's like Ricky gervaise started a new character.
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    Well, if it's a TV show, that means it can get cancelled for shitty ratings. So maybe we should go with that idea.
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    Do you see the frank drebin thing ?

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    I didn't watch it. But I've heard clips on the radio, and the orange dipshit sounds like he was high on some drugs... and not good ones. Maybe Kellyanne hooked him up with some of her blue crystals?

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    The uranium bit was astonishing

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    Cheeto is so goddamned clueless that he probably thinks the West Bank is where NuttyYahoo has a checking account.

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    He called him bb.....

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    Even FAUX's Shep Smith is fed up with Cheeto's act....


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    Ask Von Hagar why he voted for that piece of shit....
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    Flynn didn't do anything wrong, it was the media that was the problem.

    That's why he asked Flynn to resign.

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    He says people are finding out exactly what took place in these telephone calls.

    If it is exactly what took place, how is that fake news?

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    Trump boasting about getting a much higher proportion of the black vote than expected, 8%.

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    Fact check

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ss-conference/


    "We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes," Trump said. "I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan."

    This is incorrect. Trump received a smaller share of the Electoral College votes (56.88 percent) than former presidents George H. W. Bush (79.18 percent), Bill Clinton (68.77 percent in 1992, and 70.45 percent in 1996) and Barack Obama (67.84 percent in 2008 and 61.71 percent in 2012).

    So that’s five elections since Reagan and in which the winner got a larger percentage of the Electoral College votes than Trump.

    Overall, Trump ranks in the bottom third in terms of the size of his Electoral College win. We rated his repeated claim that he won in a "massive landslide" False.

    9th Circuit not most overturned

    Trump criticized the recent decision of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that stops his administration from enforcing its immigration and travel ban executive order while lawyers debate its legality in court.

    He said the 9th Circuit "has been overturned at a record number. I have heard 80 percent. I find that hard to believe, that is just a number I heard, that they are overturned 80 percent of the time."

    Trump’s figure isn’t too far off. Between 2010-15, of all the cases the Supreme Court heard that came from the 9th Circuit, 79 percent were overturned.

    However, this is not a "a record." The reversal rate for the 6th Circuit was 87 percent during those six years, and the reversal rate was 85 percent for the 11th Circuit.

    What’s more, the Supreme Court generally reverses more cases than it affirms, 70 percent on average, because the cases that it chooses to take on are often disputed among the lower courts, complex and problematic.

    Mostly False: Media has "a lower approval rate than Congress."

    Assailing media coverage of his administration, Trump told the assembled reporters, "You have a lower approval rate than Congress, I think that's right, I don't know."

    Congress actually ranks below the news media, according to surveys from three different research groups spanning several years. In two polls, mistrust in the media broke 40 percent, which is hardly anything to brag about. But in those studies, mistrust in Congress was over 50 percent.

    Trump had a point that the media has a trust issue, but he was incorrect to rank them lower than Congress. This claim is Mostly False.

    Mostly True: Trump says stock market record high shows optimism

    Trump, saying he will create jobs as president, cited the stock market highs as a sign of a promising business environment.

    "The stock market has hit record numbers, as you know. And there has been a tremendous surge of optimism in the business world," he said.

    The three major stock indexes, Dow, S&P 500 and Nasdaq, all closed at record highs for five consecutive days. While investors are optimistic about Trump’s plans to cut taxes and eliminate regulations, experts said factors other than Trump’s presidency play influential roles in the stock market. This claim is Mostly True.

    Mostly False: Hillary Clinton gave Russia 20 percent of the United States’ uranium

    Trump said he will be in a better position to work with Russia than Hillary Clinton would have been, based on her record as secretary of state.

    "We had Hillary Clinton try and do a reset," he said. "We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right?"

    Trump made this claim during the election, and we rated it Mostly False.

    This is a reference to the fact that Russia’s nuclear power agency bought a controlling interest in a Toronto-based company. That company has mines, mills and tracts of land in Wyoming, Utah and other U.S. states that amount to about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity (not produced uranium). Clinton was secretary of state at the time, but she didn’t have the power to approve or reject the deal.

    Trump denies campaign’s contact with Russia

    Trump fielded many questions about whether his campaign advisers had contact with Russian intelligence officers during the election, stemming from revelations in a recent New York Times article. Trump denied the report, calling it "fake news." Because the New York Times article relied on anonymous sources, we cannot independently verify their findings.

    Trump noted, though, that his former adviser, Paul Manafort "represented the Ukraine or Ukraine government or somebody, but everybody — people knew that. Everybody knew that."

    This is accurate. Manafort has long and deep ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine. He worked for Viktor Yanukovych, the country’s prime minister, and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Besides Manafort, Trump’s former campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page advised Russian gas giant Gazprom. And ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn attended an RT gala with Putin.

    Trump denies business dealings in Russia

    Trump said, "I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia."

    It’s true that Trump has yet to build a hotel or tower in Russia, but he has eyed the Moscow skyline for decades.

    We don’t know for sure about the extent of Trump’s business dealings in Russia. But his son, Donald Trump Jr., said in a 2008 real estate conference that "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."

    We do know that Trump agreed to host the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013, a $20 million deal facilitated by a Russian real estate mogul and billionaire Aras Agalarov. (Trump also cameoed in Agalarov’s son’s dance-pop music video). He also made millions selling a 17-bedroom Florida mansion to a Russian billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    It's scary and fun, it's like it's a show.
    It's like Ricky gervaise started a new character.
    More like Brass Eye.

    Surprised that Brass Eye is still quite edgy after all these years...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Trump boasting about getting a much higher proportion of the black vote than expected, 8%.
    Clearly, "the blacks" LOVE Trump...well, at least slightly less than 10% of them do, anyway.

    Let's see, those blacks include:

    Omarosa
    Kanye West
    Steve Harvey



    ...actually, I think that's about it...


    ...oh yeah, also Herman "Uzbecky-becky-stan" Cain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    Watching the press conference, I was reminded about an interview Philip Roth recently gave, where he lamented the fact that Trump has what appears to be a 77 word vocabulary, and the manner in which Trump delivers his finite configurations of those 77 words could best be described as Jerkish rather than English.

    Honestly, it's even more depressing to watch and listen to Trump speak than it is his principal surrogates. While Priebus, Spicer and Conway traded away what little credibility they had to start with for access to the Trump campaign and presidency, Trump himself is just...what? Deluded? A bullshit huckster? Still overly focused on his campaign victory (hence his continual revisiting of it in interviews)? Clueless as to how to run the White House? Surrounded by wealthy political amateurs, hacks and hams? All of that plus a dozen things I didn't list?

    However, I would agree with Trump that Flynn lying to Pence and equivocating afterward was reason enough in and of itself for Flynn's dismissal.

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    I'm trying to be positive in that they eventually managed to get through to him that a nuclear holocaust was a bad thing.

    I just picture the staff saying 'Wait how did they manage it with Reagan?' and then digging out an old VHS tape of that 'The Day After' show again and putting it on his TV...

    It's still fucking extraordinary that these people can end up in power though...

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    "The Day After" is on YouTube. Maybe somebody should send a tweet to Cheeto and let him know?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Ask Von Hagar why he voted for that piece of shit....
    Because it was his right as a citizen of The United States of America to vote for whoever he wanted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Cheeto is so goddamned clueless that he probably thinks the West Bank is where NuttyYahoo has a checking account.
    Yet he's the President of the United States while you're just another sniveling liberal complaining about him to a small handful of people who aren't going to do a damn thing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    He tooted his own horn a few times to many but otherwise that was a decent speech IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    "The Day After" is on YouTube. Maybe somebody should send a tweet to Cheeto and let him know?

    He's 70 years old and it really seems like it's only been in the last couple of months he's started to think that torture and using nuclear weapons are both not good ideas.

    I'm not even talking about morally not good, I mean they are clearly and empirically really fucking stupid things to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Yet he's the President of the United States while you're just another sniveling liberal complaining about him to a small handful of people who aren't going to do a damn thing about it.
    Maybe that was something you could ague in the past but it seems to me that there were quite a lot of people marching against Trump just the other week

    And of course even despite massive attempts to stop black and poor people to vote more people voted against him than for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    He tooted his own horn a few times to many but otherwise that was a decent speech IMO.
    I honestly can't believe you didn't think he came across as foolish , immature and to be honest kind of stupid.

    Nuclear holocaust is the worst type of holocaust.... thanks for that Einstein.

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    Don't worry.... Pat says it's all in God's plan!


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    Dead Intern Scarborough says his former colleagues are in panic mode

    Joe Scarborough ✔ @JoeNBC
    FWIW, Republicans on the Hill were panicked behind the scenes by Trump's performance today.
    9:55 PM - 16 Feb 2017

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    One unnamed Republican said (off the record) "we're just trying to deal with this shit" in reference to Drumpf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaverdog View Post
    Yet he's the President of the United States while you're just another sniveling liberal complaining about him to a small handful of people who aren't going to do a damn thing about it.
    You talk big for a welfare recipient.
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    This is a REAL Cheeto tweet - NOT from the fake tweet site!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I'm trying to be positive in that they eventually managed to get through to him that a nuclear holocaust was a bad thing.

    I just picture the staff saying 'Wait how did they manage it with Reagan?' and then digging out an old VHS tape of that 'The Day After' show again and putting it on his TV...

    It's still fucking extraordinary that these people can end up in power though...
    When you actually have would-be reasonable people thankful that Jared Kushner is one of Trump's closest advisors...you know you're in trouble: if this first month is the result of Kushner's handiwork, I wouldn't be too enthralled with the notion of him being a voice of reason in the Trump White House. Never mind that Kushner's greatest accomplishments prior to this year all stem from inheriting HIS father's wealth and business connections (no wonder he and his father-in-law get along so well), so I'm not sure where all this gravitas directed toward Kushner's abilities re: successful government policy even came from to begin with.

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    Well, Jared Kushner DID accomplish one good thing: He kept Jabba the Christie out of the Trump cabinet. Granted, it was all for personal reasons - Jabba (as a US attorney) put Jared's daddy in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Maybe that was something you could ague in the past but it seems to me that there were quite a lot of people marching against Trump just the other week
    What does that have to do with posting here? Posting here is the equivalent of joining a march now? If you think you're changing the world by posting anti Trump propaganda here 24/7 you're highly delusional. All any of us is accomplishing by posting here is killing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandeleur View Post
    I honestly can't believe you didn't think he came across as foolish , immature and to be honest kind of stupid.
    You would have said that whether you watched it or not because you already judged the man's entire Presidency before he was even elected. No matter what he says or what he does you're going to find fault with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The word SICK isn't there now if it ever was but either way what the fuck is going on in his head?

    Either Bannon and to a lesser extent Alex Jones are feeding an unreality into him or it's a massive plan to try and discredit truth to the point that he can do anything he wants...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The word SICK isn't there now if it ever was but either way what the fuck is going on in his head?

    Either Bannon and to a lesser extent Alex Jones are feeding an unreality into him or it's a massive plan to try and discredit truth to the point that he can do anything he wants...
    The disconcerting part is this Congress can push a lot of legislation through - you know, actually DO things - while everyone else (the public, major media outlets) is not paying attention because they are too busy getting all riled about all the silly things Trump SAYS. And most of the proposed legislation won't prove to be beneficial for the majority of Americans (including those who voted for Trump).

    The trick is to keep on the lookout for the head fake. Hopefully, the media is not only energized but able to prioritize their focus.

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