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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Infowars is just a modern version of the John Birch Society. I had a uncle who was a John Bircher and he drove the whole family nuts with his paranoia. I don't even know if the JBS exists today but they were pretty nuts.
    Hell yes the John Birch Society exists today! Fred Koch was one of the founding members of the Birchers, and his degenerate sons, who currently control the Republican party, believe in all the same sick shit that he did.

    So while the "Democratic" party is currently to the right of Eisenhower (some of them even to the right of Reagan) the Republican party of today has literally become the batshit crazy fringe, whom Ike once described as "Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

    They are still stupid, but sadly the number is no longer negligible. Ike kept them in check because he made the rich pay their fair share in taxes. That all crumbled away after 1980.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Hell yes the John Birch Society exists today! Fred Koch was one of the founding members of the Birchers, and his degenerate sons, who currently control the Republican party, believe in all the same sick shit that he did.

    So while the "Democratic" party is currently to the right of Eisenhower (some of them even to the right of Reagan) the Republican party of today has literally become the batshit crazy fringe, whom Ike once described as "Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

    They are still stupid, but sadly the number is no longer negligible. Ike kept them in check because he made the rich pay their fair share in taxes. That all crumbled away after 1980.
    Ike was the last real president we ever had. He was smart. He was fair. Nobody could intimidate him and push him around. As far as the two parties go I see them as two cheeks on the same butt. Maybe the rhetoric differs but what they actually do is basically the same. I think they both are shot to hell because both are sellouts.
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    Alex Jones has the same "mission" as Kanye West??


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    The only shit that is going to break here is his bank account after all the lawsuits settle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    The only shit that is going to break here is his bank account after all the lawsuits settle.
    Who knows. Lawsuits are just part of the modern world. In the US the more lawyers you need the more successful you are.

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    What you have to understand about InfoWars and Alex Jones is their base is a segment of the conservative right. When the left attacks it just legitimizes InfoWars to the base even more. Alex's best friend was Hillary Clinton. When she attacked him during the campaign in the mass media she just legitimized InfoWars more than ever. It was a huge mistake on her part. Ignoring InfoWars will hurt them more than attacking them. You have to remember his base believes those school shootings were false flags used by the globalists to rally the masses towards gun control. This lawsuit will just make people buy more InfoWars shit from their store. I think Alex is crazy like a fox. He's made a lot of money with his antics. He comes across as a crazy man but he also created a successful business model using the alternative media. Quite innovative.

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    All very true.

    The depressing thing is the inability of anyone that takes him seriously to just wind the clock back 6 months at any time and see which of his predictions came true. He's like a shitty (there is no other kind) psychic.

    For example he predicted daily about the false flag assassination of Obama for the first year or two of his presidency.

    If all these shootings are false flags to get peoples guns, how come the government never tried to do that afterwards? It's like all the nutjob preachers FORD puts up videos of, I think the only sensible response is just to ignore it until it dies on the vine. Ultimately all these guys are about making $, if no one pays them attention they don't make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    It's called acting. Con artists are actors and after a while they start to believe their own bullshit. Alex is actually the worst interviewer on the planet. He's always talking over his guests and interrupting them. He's a narcissist.
    And that's the thing, is once the huckster starts to actually believe his own bullshit, that's when the con usually should start to fall apart.

    Of course, some con artists fall apart sooner than others. Some are able to perpetuate their fraud - whatever realm or form that fraud takes place in or becomes - for decades.

    The sort of people who believe what Jones is saying...if it weren't Jones, they'd be lining up to believe in some other huckster. These fans aren't the type of people who would be voting for the Democratic Party in any case: Fox News is too centrist for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's like all the nutjob preachers FORD puts up videos of...
    Oh, you mean his relatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Oh, you mean his relatives?
    The last preacher in my family died in 1987 at the age of 101. Great Grandma was a missionary, but not remotely a nutjob.

    She used to tell my mother that I was going to be a preacher. Sometimes I regret not taking her up on the idea. Could use a tax free income that doesn't require continuing education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    And that's the thing, is once the huckster starts to actually believe his own bullshit, that's when the con usually should start to fall apart.

    Of course, some con artists fall apart sooner than others. Some are able to perpetuate their fraud - whatever realm or form that fraud takes place in or becomes - for decades.

    The sort of people who believe what Jones is saying...if it weren't Jones, they'd be lining up to believe in some other huckster. These fans aren't the type of people who would be voting for the Democratic Party in any case: Fox News is too centrist for them.
    Alex Jones started off criticizing governor George W. Bush on cable access in Austin, Texas. Alex is a nationalist who views globalism as the enemy. He's against unions like the EU or anything that overrides national sovereignty. So he believes in some rather sophisticated conspiracy theories regarding this. He views himself as a libertarian as many guests on his show do. He views the current Democratic Party as being taken over by globalists and the Republican Party being heavily infiltrated by them. Oddly enough Alex is much like FORD with the exception that Alex leans conservative where FORD leans liberal. Ha! Ha! Alex certainly is a strange individual and maybe what he believes in is genuine but I also think he's stumbled onto a formula that works and he's made a lot of money performing his act. Success and money are huge corruptors and he's far from the guy on cable access taking shots at the governor of Texas.

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    People say Austin, Texas is a weird place. The city prides itself on being weird whatever that means. Well Alex Jones is a weirdo so maybe there is something in the water down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    All very true.

    The depressing thing is the inability of anyone that takes him seriously to just wind the clock back 6 months at any time and see which of his predictions came true. He's like a shitty (there is no other kind) psychic.

    For example he predicted daily about the false flag assassination of Obama for the first year or two of his presidency.

    If all these shootings are false flags to get peoples guns, how come the government never tried to do that afterwards? It's like all the nutjob preachers FORD puts up videos of, I think the only sensible response is just to ignore it until it dies on the vine. Ultimately all these guys are about making $, if no one pays them attention they don't make money.
    Oh if the left just ignored Alex he would fade away. What sells Alex is he gets in a pissing match with the left and people love watching a good fight. If the left didn't hit back there is nothing to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The last preacher in my family died in 1987 at the age of 101. Great Grandma was a missionary, but not remotely a nutjob.

    She used to tell my mother that I was going to be a preacher. Sometimes I regret not taking her up on the idea. Could use a tax free income that doesn't require continuing education.
    You have to know the scriptures fairly well and you have to be able to put on a show. Most people can't pull it off but if you can why not? Haha! haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Alex Jones started off criticizing governor George W. Bush on cable access in Austin, Texas. Alex is a nationalist who views globalism as the enemy. He's against unions like the EU or anything that overrides national sovereignty. So he believes in some rather sophisticated conspiracy theories regarding this. He views himself as a libertarian as many guests on his show do. He views the current Democratic Party as being taken over by globalists and the Republican Party being heavily infiltrated by them. Oddly enough Alex is much like FORD with the exception that Alex leans conservative where FORD leans liberal. Ha! Ha! Alex certainly is a strange individual and maybe what he believes in is genuine but I also think he's stumbled onto a formula that works and he's made a lot of money performing his act. Success and money are huge corruptors and he's far from the guy on cable access taking shots at the governor of Texas.
    The thing about Jones is he has to keep upping the ante in terms of his histrionics to keep his viewers interested. You see him getting more and more frantic onscreen as the years go by. His appeal in terms of being taken seriously is limited to those who believe events like Sandy Hook were government put up jobs.

    I mean, there is a case to be made that a full-on embrace of globalism isn't necessarily in the interests of the American working class. However, that case has to be made by people who have a degree of seriousness to them, and Jones hurts his cause more than he helps it by embracing all these looney, unsubstantiated Pizzagate-type stories and coming across as mentally unhinged. That fringe stuff may be good for Jones's financial bottom line, but little else beyond that.

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    Apparently now Alex is going for the hip-hop crowd....


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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Apparently now Alex is going for the hip-hop crowd....

    It's a smart move. The way you sink the Democrat Party is to bring black people over to your side. One effective way to do this is to get some black celebrities on your side. Alex is crazy like a fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    The thing about Jones is he has to keep upping the ante in terms of his histrionics to keep his viewers interested. You see him getting more and more frantic onscreen as the years go by. His appeal in terms of being taken seriously is limited to those who believe events like Sandy Hook were government put up jobs.

    I mean, there is a case to be made that a full-on embrace of globalism isn't necessarily in the interests of the American working class. However, that case has to be made by people who have a degree of seriousness to them, and Jones hurts his cause more than he helps it by embracing all these looney, unsubstantiated Pizzagate-type stories and coming across as mentally unhinged. That fringe stuff may be good for Jones's financial bottom line, but little else beyond that.
    That's why some people think Alex actually works for the globalists as a disinformation agent. I'm not kidding here. The US Government used the UFO movement as disinformation to protect real projects they were developing. Many people thought a stealth bomber was a UFO when they saw one flying usually at night. Well it is a UFO if it's flying and you don't know what it is. Lot's of psychological games being played that way. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Alex was an operative.

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    A disinformation agent will give valid information. Sometimes most of it is valid. Then they will give out nonsense and sometimes act nuts. That's Alex to a T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Damn. Alex lived the life when he was 13. My life at 13 was pretty boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    That's why some people think Alex actually works for the globalists as a disinformation agent. I'm not kidding here. The US Government used the UFO movement as disinformation to protect real projects they were developing. Many people thought a stealth bomber was a UFO when they saw one flying usually at night. Well it is a UFO if it's flying and you don't know what it is. Lot's of psychological games being played that way. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Alex was an operative.
    Yeah, but the UFO movement - or phenomenon - was much larger in terms of scale re: the general public consciousness than Alex Jones could ever hope to be...and the UFO movement demonstrated a lot more focus than Jones is able to muster.

    I mean, doubtless diehard followers of Jones will hang on his every word, but I don't even think Jones has a fraction of the influence that, say, Rush Limbaugh did over the general, non-wingnut public.

    I mean, if you were a stealthy globalist searching for a disinformation agent, would you have a high degree of confidence in a guy like Alex Jones to stick to your script and not come across as batshit loco thus being able to spread your disinformation (and have it be believed) to as wide an audience as possible? An audience beyond the doomsday preppers and tinfoil hat wearing paranoiacs who are ALREADY inclined to create their own self-generated disinformation without prodding from a Jones-like figure to begin with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    A disinformation agent will give valid information. Sometimes most of it is valid. Then they will give out nonsense and sometimes act nuts. That's Alex to a T.

    Yeah...maybe...

    Part of me wants to believe Jones is just a flat-out fraud who is just really adept at whipping himself up into a tizzy for the cameras.

    Another part of me thinks Jones really IS mentally unstable and actually believes the things he claims.

    I'd put money on the former, but it'd be much more fun if the latter was true.

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    If you think Alex is mentally unstable... he's got nothing on his mini-me Owen Shroyer.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yeah...maybe...

    Part of me wants to believe Jones is just a flat-out fraud who is just really adept at whipping himself up into a tizzy for the cameras.

    Another part of me thinks Jones really IS mentally unstable and actually believes the things he claims.

    I'd put money on the former, but it'd be much more fun if the latter was true.
    Infowars is too well ran to be the result of some crazy man. Alex is on the pinnacle right now. Hillary Clinton called him out and the left won't stop talking about him. To Alex this is a goldmine. He can duck out at anytime and soon be forgotten in the news cycle but he's making too much money now. In the US the more lawyers you have to hire the more successful you are. It's the game. More lawsuits just means Infowars is growing.

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    Liberals always used to bitch about Rush Limbaugh. Now it's Alex Jones. So this means Alex Jones is now bigger than Rush Limbaugh. HaHa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If you think Alex is mentally unstable... he's got nothing on his mini-me Owen Shroyer.......

    I can't picture this civil war thing. First of all war is a lot of work and most Americans are too lazy to get involved in one. Naw. We are just going to bitch at each other over the internet while the country continues to degrade because everyone is distracted from all the bullshit and pays no attention to the real problems. We will probably end up as a primitive society when some calamity finally hits with ruins of a once great civilization poking up above the tree line. Detroit is already starting to look like the ruins at Tikal. Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Haha! haha! It's like Rush Limbaugh was combined with Coast to Coast AM. The liberals are trying to keep us from going to Mars. The liberals are the brainwashed masses controlled by the globalists who are trying to hold back humanity so we can be enslaved by artificial intelligence. The illuminati will then merge themselves with high tech and becomes gods. There will be no need for sex or even normal humans beings. Worker ants will be grown in a lab. They might keep a few humans around for sex slaves.

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    To be honest. If I wrote science fiction I might watch Infowars to get some ideas. Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Liberals always used to bitch about Rush Limbaugh. Now it's Alex Jones. So this means Alex Jones is now bigger than Rush Limbaugh. HaHa!
    Limbaugh at least was capable of entertaining radio, before his opiate addiction completely destroyed his mind. I have mentioned many times before on this board that I used to listen to Mush back in the early 1990s. Didn't agree with most of what he said even then, but at least there was humor in it. When the Oxycontin ate his brain, it became all about hate & paranoia, rather than an entertaining radio show.

    Jones STARTED from hate & paranoia, and now he's progressed (or would that be regressed?) to complete delusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Limbaugh at least was capable of entertaining radio, before his opiate addiction completely destroyed his mind. I have mentioned many times before on this board that I used to listen to Mush back in the early 1990s. Didn't agree with most of what he said even then, but at least there was humor in it. When the Oxycontin ate his brain, it became all about hate & paranoia, rather than an entertaining radio show.

    Jones STARTED from hate & paranoia, and now he's progressed (or would that be regressed?) to complete delusion.
    Rush also has severe hearing problems. He's almost deaf. As far as a radio personality Rush has or had a lot of talent. I think he found a profitable niche going the political route and stuck with it. Now I think Rush is copying Alex Jones more. Rush used to just be a rubber stamp cheerleader for the Republican Party but now he's getting into the conspiracy stuff. He has more of an anti-swamp show now instead of just a anti-Democrat show. That's apparently what sells these days. Swamp creatures are the new enemy.

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    So now we are on a snipe hunt for swamp creatures and the deep state. People have gone nuts. They are now calling Jews nazis and just about everyone has colluded with the Russians. There is a shadow government but nobody can name who exactly are the players in it or who runs it. We are going into witch hunt territory where people are just blaming others for problems nobody wants fixed or can fix. We might just start World War III off with all this bullshit. You got Bibi in Israel blaming Iran for all his problems with some CD's and a shelve full of empty binders as proof. Of course we Bolton getting a hard on over this and he's in the White House with Cheeto face. It's one big cartoon.

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    slave FORD Owen Shroyer is so god damn boring he's not worth any mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    slave FORD Owen Shroyer is so god damn boring he's not worth any mention.
    Amazingly enough you people even know who he is which I guess is a win for Owen Shroyer. He's managed to rise above the level of being an obscure You Tube wanker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Rush also has severe hearing problems. He's almost deaf.
    Which itself was a direct result of the Oxycontin abuse. Hearing loss is officially documented as a "rare" side effect of Oxycontin use, but Limbaugh was a seriously heavy user for several years.

    High as a kite himself while making hypocritical comments about the drug use of Jerry Garcia & Kurt Cobain (among others)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Which itself was a direct result of the Oxycontin abuse. Hearing loss is officially documented as a "rare" side effect of Oxycontin use, but Limbaugh was a seriously heavy user for several years.

    High as a kite himself while making hypocritical comments about the drug use of Jerry Garcia & Kurt Cobain (among others)
    Seems like Rush had the same problem Elvis had. On the outside Elvis was the poster child for anti-drug use. On the inside he was a prescription drug addict. In his mind he wasn't abusing drugs because they were pharmaceuticals and came from a doctor instead of a drug dealer. But as Kieth Richards once said,"Nobody goes hey I want to be a drug addict. You end up taking a drug to stay awake, to take the edge off, to be more creative and then the next thing you know the drug owns you."
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