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    The Investigation of Donald Trump

    Report: Trump is particularly disturbed that Mueller can dig through his tax returns
    Eliza Relman,Business Insider 20 hours ago


    Robert Mueller(Special counsel Robert Mueller. President Donald Trump's outside legal team is reportedly evaluating potential conflicts of interest among Mueller and his team of attorneys, in an effort to control the independent investigation.Alex Wong/Getty Images)

    President Donald Trump is incensed at reports that Robert Mueller, a former FBI director leading the independent investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, is investigating Trump's business dealings and finances, including his tax returns.

    The Washington Post reported on Thursday that Trump has told aides he is particularly upset at the prospect of the investigators having access to several years of his tax returns.

    Every president Since Jimmy Carter has released his tax returns, but Trump has refused, after initially promising to make them public following an IRS audit.

    In a Wednesday interview with The New York Times, Trump said digging into his finances would be a "violation" of the investigation's limits.

    "If you're looking at Russian collusion, the presidentís tax returns would be outside that investigation," an adviser to the president told the Post.

    But legal experts say Trump's financial history and business dealings are properly within the scope of the probe.

    "This is Ken Starr times 1,000," a lawyer involved in the case told the Post, referring to the independent counsel who led the investigation into Bill Clinton that led to his impeachment trial in 1998. "Of course, itís going to go into his finances."

    The president has also denied having any business ties with Russia.

    "They said I made money from Russia. I don't," Trump told the Times on Wednesday. "It's not my thing. I don't, I don't do that. Over the years, I've looked at maybe doing a deal in Russia, but I never did one. Other than I held the Miss Universe pageant there eight, nine years."

    Mueller's team is already investigating the finances of White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, while federal prosecutors also looking into the financial dealings of Trump associates, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

    Trump's team of personal lawyers is engaged in an effort to control the scope of Mueller's Russia investigation, according to the Post report.

    The attorneys are evaluating potential conflicts of interest among Mueller and his team and are reportedly advising the president on his power to pardon his aides, family members, and even himself in connection with the investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    Trump has publicly accused Mueller and lawyers involved in the Russia probe of having conflicts of interest due to their personal and professional ties to Democrats. At least seven of the 15 attorneys Mueller has hired have made donations to Democratic politicians.

    During his Wednesday interview with the Times, Trump escalated his criticism of his Justice Department, claiming that he would not have hired Attorney General Jeff Sessions had he known Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation. He also suggested a left-leaning bias from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

    The spokesman for Trump's legal team, Mark Corallo, resigned on Thursday after reportedly objecting to public criticism of Mueller, the Post wrote.

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    So basically Drumpf is afraid to be investigated on tax return documents that every other president releases anyways? LMFAO

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    There are many reasons for this but one of the main ones is that he isn't a billionaire and isn't a successful businessman. He's a successful game show host with an inheritance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post



    There are many reasons for this but one of the main ones is that he isn't a billionaire and isn't a successful businessman. He's a successful game show host with an inheritance.
    And essentially a successful used car salesmen with his name licensing brand being the shitty "used car"...

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    Jane's getting serious... A second grand jury is being formed to look into financial crimes reportedly...

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    CNN reports subpoenas are being issue via Reuters...

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    This could end up being a long thread...

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    Over a million new jobs created since Trump became President. Lowest unemployment rate in 16 years. Toyota just announced the giant new factory that will employ 4000 people, is going to be built in the United States. It was going to be built in Mexico until Trump told the Japs they'd pay dearly for every one of those Corolla's they ship from Mexico to here.

    But hey, you liberal little pussies just cuntinue to do what made you the fat, broke, unhealthy, negative pansy asses you're so proud to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Over a million new jobs created since Trump became President. Lowest unemployment rate in 16 years.
    That's the legacy of black Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Over a million new jobs created since Trump became President.
    President Donald Trump's claim that he's created a million jobs finally came true ó
    months after he first made it.

    "We've added ... more than a million private sector jobs," Trump said on June 1, when
    the Labor Department's tally was about 600,000. On Monday White House press
    secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, "We've created over a million new jobs since
    [Trump] took office," when DOL's tally was 863,000.

    With the Labor Department reporting Friday that the economy added 209,000 jobs in
    July, Trump can finally say, truthfully, that he's created more than a million jobs since
    entering office. Trump tweeted shortly after the report's release: "Excellent Jobs
    Numbers just released - and I have only just begun. Many job stifling regulations
    continue to fall. Movement back to USA!"

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...in-july-241325
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    Trump's comments and actions regarding his finances all smack of a man clearly trying to hide something.

    If it is that he isn't worth 10 billion like he claims (or even a billion), or if it is fear of having a bright light shone on exactly who he has been licensing his name to around the world over the last 2 decades - you know, after he went bankrupt - I can't say yet.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump himself doesn't know all the particulars of his tax returns and how money has flowed through Trump Incorporated. Or exactly who/where all that money originated from. We know Trump wasn't above knowingly lending his name to scams as recently as the Trump University debacle. We know his son took a meeting with a Russian national with Kremlin ties for the express purpose of being provided damaging political information on his father's opponent. We also know Trump's son-in-law attended that same meeting with full knowledge in advance of what the meeting was about. We also know Trump crafted a bullshit statement about adoptions as the theoretical subject of that meeting. A statement that might have held water had the Diaper Don not boldly undercut it by telling the truth about what the meeting was called for.

    Think about all we don't know yet. How many more unexploded land mines are out there in terms of Trump's financials and his families/campaign staffers/campaign advocates Russian contacts. From Flynn to Sessions to Manafort to Kushner and on and on...does anyone think this represents the totality of the contacts?

    Donald Trump is a careless man with a Winning At All Costs ethos. These qualities may have served him well at times during the years he built his real estate empire - until that went bust - and the years after that when he licensed his name for cash and rebranded himself as a successful billionaire for a reality tv series. Those two traits along with Trump's consistent pattern of capricious lying (when often telling the truth would serve him equally well if not better) probably - hopefully - won't serve him well in the job capacity he now holds.

    Sooner or later, I can't see Trump doing anything with Mueller other than firing him. Trump is terrified of what Mueller will dig up and terrified of what dirty laundry will be laid out for the public to see. I have no idea as to what Mueller's investigation will unearth, what will see the light of day and what the consequences for Trump will be (nothing? a one-term presidency? voluntary resignation should impeachment look inevitable?). I don't think Trump really knows, either. Just the thought of all of it must be sweat-inducing for Trump, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump himself doesn't know all the particulars of his tax returns and how money has flowed through Trump Incorporated. Or exactly who/where all that money originated from....
    I'd be much more surprised if he did...

    Think about all we don't know yet. How many more unexploded land mines are out there in terms of Trump's financials and his families/campaign staffers/campaign advocates Russian contacts. From Flynn to Sessions to Manafort to Kushner and on and on...does anyone think this represents the totality of the contacts? ...
    Some say it's just the tip of the iceberg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfish View Post
    President Donald Trump's claim that he's created a million jobs finally came true —
    months after he first made it.
    What did he do to create these jobs? He hasn't passed any new laws or changed anything at all. All this shows is that presidents have way less power than people think they do. The last half of 2016 with black Jesus 100s of thousands of new jobs were happening each month. President Goldfinger comes into office and nothing changes they continue to be created.

    You should take credit for them. Silverfish has created 1 million jobs this year it makes as much sense.

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    Trump single handedly created 4000 new jobs with the Toyota deal. 4000 jobs that will provide middle class families a damn good living. Unlike the fucking McDonald's and Burger King jobs your half black hero was creating. But hey, again I say, you negative liberals just keep concentrating on Trump. Keep being martyrs. In fact Seshbama, you should move to the city of Detroit. Your woe is me ghetto mentality would fit in perfectly. No, don't move to the 7.4 square miles they are revitalizing, move to the 138 square miles that is still worse than most third world Countries, because of their liberal mindsets. You belong there. Bring those other two liberal homo's NickDickless (even though I know how scared of the ghetto that fraud liberal is) and FROD with you. You guys can preach it and live it, every fucking day. Well, every day until they kill you for your pocket protector.

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    Oh Von Clichegar, that fucktard mongoloid you love so much had NOTHING to do with the Toyota-Mazda deal. Toyota ALREADY has a huge plant there making Corollas!

    Fake news, facts, covfefe!!!

    Hanging in the balance for states vying for the factory are 4,000 jobs that the two Japanese automakers expect to create through their joint investment. Locating the plant near Toyota’s existing manufacturing site in Blue Springs would enable the two to source parts from companies nearby that feed components to the Corolla. A head-start on a supplier network would be particularly attractive for Mazda, which doesn’t have a U.S. plant.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ppi-opens-arms

    The difference between Obama and Drumpf is that Obama didn't look to get his dick sucked by the slobbering 33% every time a factory was built...
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    The US economy was generating 200 000 new jobs a month under the last guy.

    You will notice the japs haven't said where the factory will be yet. That's so you will now have 50 States in competition to bend the knee using taxpayers money to subsidize it - socialism!

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    Et tut, Mueller?

    Mueller Is ‘Going for the Kill’ on Trump-Russia Investigation, Republicans Believe: Report
    Newsweek Jason Le Miere,Newsweek 1 hour 50 minutes ago

    Republicans with close links to the White House increasingly believe that special counsel Robert Mueller is “going for the kill” in his investigation into links between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to a report from Axios Tuesday.

    Members of the GOP are said to have come to that stark conclusion based on Mueller’s hiring of lawyers experienced in dealing with money laundering crimes and the Mafia, as well as the intensity of his pursuit of both witnesses and evidence.

    Trump has previously warned that investigation of his financial dealings is a red line that Mueller should not cross. But that is thought to be exactly what Mueller is doing, including looking into a proposal made during the 2016 campaign to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

    The new report comes just days after Trump’s former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, told CBS’s 60 Minutes that Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey, which he called the worst mistake in “modern political history,” led directly to the appointment of Mueller to oversee the investigation.

    Mueller’s probe appears to have stepped up in recent weeks. It was reported last month that he had impaneled a federal grand jury in Washington and has issued subpoenas related to a meeting Donald Trump Jr. held with a Russian-government-linked lawyer in June 2016. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, as well as his then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, were also at the meeting. Last week, Trump Jr. was interviewed behind closed doors by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Robert Mueller Special counsel Robert Mueller arrives at the U.S. Capitol for a closed meeting with members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on June 21. Alex Wong/Getty Images

    Such is the scale of Mueller’s investigation that legal fees for those coming under the probe’s focus are mounting sharply, to the extent that outside legal defense funds could soon be necessary, Axios reports. More Trump aides are said to have lawyered up in response to a draft letter from Trump explaining his reasons for firing Comey, which was never sent and has not been published but has been obtained by Mueller. The letter was handed out to several White House officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, according to The New York Times.

    Despite Trump’s repeated insistence that he has been told he is not personally under investigation, the president is possibly facing very real personal consequences. Based on conversations with White House aides, Axios says that Mueller is narrowing in on a possible charge of obstruction of justice against the president.

    While the details of the original letter have yet to be disclosed, Trump undermined his legally refined reasons for dismissing Comey when he told NBC News that he did so with the Russia investigation in mind.

    Despite all of this, Trump is not thought to be considering firing Mueller, according to Axios. Doing so, Trump associates said, would be as bad as “firing the pope.”
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    Well, I'd imagine the problem Trump faces is one of his corporation in the last twenty years having done business with all sorts of shady, unsavory foreign characters when most US financial institutions became unwilling to do business with Trump.

    I'd tend to doubt Trump himself even knows the particulars of what sorts of transactions have transpired, and the idea that Trump has any control over what Mueller's probe investigates...nope.

    Why would Trump be so insistent that any investigation of his financial dealings is a red line unless Trump thought there was something untoward - or illegal - to find? Trump sounds and acts like a guilty man.

    I'd be surprised if Trump didn't end up firing Mueller, although perhaps even that won't save his skin if "the goods" are there to find.

    Who knows?

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    Mueller indicts 12 Russian intel officers for hacking Democrats

    Mueller indicts 12 Russian intel officers for hacking Democrats originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

    A federal grand jury on Friday returned a new indictment against a dozen Russians as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged Russian meddling during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    The charges come just days before President Donald Trump is set to meet with Russia's President Vladimir Putin and on the same day that Trump, on a trip to the United Kingdom, again called the investigation a "witch hunt."

    The indictment targets 12 Russian intelligence officers for engaging in a sustained effort to hack networks of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic National Committee, and Hillary Clinton’s campaign. All 12 are members of the GRU, Russia's intelligence service, according to the court filing.

    In announcing the indictment Friday, Deputy Attorney General described how the Russian GRU officials began a “spearphishing” campaign in 2016 against volunteers and employees of Clinton’s campaign, including her campaign chairman. Russians’ spearphishing techniques also earned them access to networks of the DCCC and DNC, where they were able to steal emails and documents, covertly monitor the computer activity of dozens of employees, and implant hundreds of malicious files to steal passwords and maintain access to the networks.
    Rosenstein described how "One GRU unit worked to steal information, while another unit worked to disseminate stolen information."

    "Free and fair elections are hard-fought and contentious. There will always be adversaries who work to exacerbate domestic differences and try to confuse, divide, and conquer us," Rosenstein said. "The blame for election interference belongs to the criminals who committed election interference."
    PHOTO: John Podesta, chair of the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, walks off stage after delivering a speech on the first day of the Democratic National Convention at the Wells Fargo Center, July 25, 2016 in Philadelphia. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images, FILE)

    Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta, whose email account was hacked during the campaign, told ABC News he was heartened to see the Mueller action.

    “Donald Trump calls this a witch hunt? Well, we’ve just found some witches,” Podesta said. “And they’ve been indicted.”

    The new indictment raises the stakes as President Trump is preparing for a Monday summit with Putin in Helsinki, Finland. Already, Trump has fielded questions about whether he will raise the matter of Russian interference in the 2016 campaign, saying he expects Putin will continue to deny any involvement. “All I can do is say, ‘Did you?’ And, ‘Don’t do it again,’” Trump told reporters during the recent NATO summit.

    Rosenstein on Friday said he briefed President Trump on these allegations earlier this week, adding that although Americans corresponded with the indicted Russians, no Americans knowingly conspired with Russian intelligence officers.

    Former Gov. Chris Christie, a one-time Trump adviser and now an ABC News consultant, said Mueller wanted Trump to enter his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin with this indictment in front of him.

    “The unmistakable conclusion is that Bob Mueller wanted to show that this is not a debatable point,” Christie said. “There is no debate that the Russians meddled in the election.”

    In just over a year since his appointment as special counsel, Mueller and his hand-picked team of prosecutors have now filed ten indictments covering 32 individuals and three businesses, earned five guilty pleas, have two criminal cases headed to trial, and sentenced one person to prison.

    President Donald Trump and his supporters have repeatedly called Mueller’s investigation a “Witch Hunt”.

    Friday’s indictment comes as Rosenstein faces increased scrutiny from President Trump’s backers on Capitol Hill. House Republicans have threatened to hold Rosenstein in contempt of Congress for what they say is the Justice Department's failure to comply in a timely manner with a subpoena for documents related to the Clinton email and Trump-Russia investigations.

    The Department of Justice last Friday sent a letter to two House committees insisting it had fully complied.

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    Oh goody. !2 ham sandwiches from Russia got indicted. Just another excuse to waste our tax money on an investigation that has found nothing. Why would the Russians want to keep Hillary Clinton out of the presidency? She will sell anything for the right price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Oh goody. !2 ham sandwiches from Russia got indicted. Just another excuse to waste our tax money on an investigation that has found nothing. Why would the Russians want to keep Hillary Clinton out of the presidency? She will sell anything for the right price.
    Cheeto owes them a lot of favors because they were the only ones left on the planet who would "loan" him money..... though it was really less a loan and more a laundromat for the Commie Mob.

    As stupid as Trump is, even he couldn't possibly bankrupt a casino..... unless it was built to fail in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Cheeto owes them a lot of favors because they were the only ones left on the planet who would "loan" him money..... though it was really less a loan and more a laundromat for the Commie Mob.

    As stupid as Trump is, even he couldn't possibly bankrupt a casino..... unless it was built to fail in the first place.
    Ok. Got any proof any of this was going on? The last Russians that were indicted actually showed up for their court case and Mueller had to stall. This whole thing is an ongoing joke. Let's see how long has it been going on? Two years? How much has this whole nonsense cost the taxpayer? At this point I'm wonder if we even need an FBI since it's seems to be ran by bumbling idiots. We have Homeland Security now so just get rid of the FBI and the Justice Department is ran by bumbling idiots too. As far as any kind of hacking goes; especially, overseas hacking the NSA would have the records on that. Has anyone there come forth? Only the former director saying the whole thing is nonsense.

    Meanwhile we have gotten wonder stories of Russian hookers pissing up beds and Russian mobsters laundering their money through failed Atlantic casinos. Where's the video or any kind of real proof here other than a bunch of bobble heads at the Department of Just-Us? Has anyone actually come up with any real documents, photos, video, witness testimony other than some porn star who claims Trump paid her hush money? Then what in the hell does that have to do with Russian collusion in the first place?

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    Here's the most obvious episode of collusion......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Why would the Russians want to keep Hillary Clinton out of the presidency? She will sell anything for the right price.
    The Russians want to weaken the power of NATO, that seems to be going well.

    They want the EU weakened as well which is why they helped the Brexit campaign.

    The final thing they want is a repeal of the Magnitsky Act which is a real pain in ass for them when they are trying to spend their stolen corruption money.

    So 2 out of 3 projects going very well so far under Trump watch out for #3 because it's coming.

    It's nonsense to say that just because Clinton likes money that any of these three objectives would have been achieved with her as president.

    See http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-2...lained/9783076 for background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Oh goody. !2 ham sandwiches from Russia got indicted. Just another excuse to waste our tax money on an investigation that has found nothing. Why would the Russians want to keep Hillary Clinton out of the presidency? She will sell anything for the right price.
    Obviously, idiot, if they hadn't found anything they wouldn't have indicted 13 GRU Soviet military intelligence agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Ok. Got any proof any of this was going on?...
    Oh for fucking fuck sake, when have you ever given a shit about "proof" with your Bilderberger and Trilateral Commission crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Oh for fucking fuck sake, when have you ever given a shit about "proof" with your Bilderberger and Trilateral Commission crap?
    Actually The Trilateral Commission was a real organization as is Bilderberg. The first organized by David Rockefeller and Zibignew Brzenski when the Bilderberg Group refused to admit Japanese friends of Mr. Rockefeller so Rockefeller founded his own group which he hoped would be less prejudice than the Europeans in Bilderberg. That being said. What in the hell does this have to do with the Mueller investigation? You know the investigation that started off looking into Russian meddling in the presidential election and then got off track looking at other things such as porn stars getting paid off. It's a joke.



    The thing is the Trilateral Commission is old news as is Bilderberg and the Mueller Investigation will soon be forgotten having accomplished nothing more than wasting millions of our tax dollars.
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    You just found another $180 BILLION for 'defence' spending so what the fuck difference does a million here or there make to anything?

    It's funny to think that Saunders was considered a complete fucking commie spending lunatic for proposing free college education because it was a ludicrous amount of money - $47 billion.

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