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    Neonazis Love Trumps uncomdemnation

    Joe Scarborough‏Verified account @JoeNBC 14h14 hours ago

    Joe Scarborough Retweeted Soledad O'Brien

    Hey Trump, Mission Accomplished. The Nazis, white supremacists and the KKK still love you. #Shame
    https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/896575936484605955

    After, the rightwing terrorist base needs kudos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/896575936484605955

    After, the rightwing terrorist base needs kudos!
    What am I missing here, nick? Not dense, just don't get it. Explain please.
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    You can Google? There's a whole host of articles of even Republicans condemning Trumps pansy statement on what was Neonazi terrorism...

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    OK, wasn't debating or choosing a side or a stance or feigning ignorance. Just didn't get it. Got it now; without google.

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    Reminding people of this seems to have worked quite well in the UK from time to time when the extreme right wing nationalists start their shit.

    If you point out that some if not most of the greatest achievements of the country in living memory has been fighting what they are espousing it puts them in a really awkward position. Of course the people at these things are dumb nasty fucks but it's more about stopping the next tier people joining with them.
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    The main complaint is that he didn't specifically condemn neonazi and white supremacist cunts by name and made it sound like both sides were at fault when it was clear that the murderer was a nazi and most of the violence stemmed from the extremist rightists. That's why he came back on today and specifically condemned it as an act of terrorism,like at least McMasters had the brains to do Sunday....

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    Yeah, but the problem with Trump and this issue goes well beyond the speed of his condemnation or the all-inclusiveness of his initial remark.

    From Trump's "it's clear they're all guilty" stance on the Central Park Five case (before the defendants were even tried...and even after they were later cleared and won a civil settlement against NYC, Trump never apologized or admitted he was wrong), to his propagating of the whole manufactured Obama Birther 'issue' (which he only begrudgingly admitted might not have been true last summer, several years after it was disproven), to his cutesy "I don't even know who David Duke is" remarks during the primaries...I mean, shit, even going back to the early 1970s when Trump and his father discriminated against minorities in terms of renting their apartment spaces to them...Trump has a long, LONG history of displaying racist attitudes toward blacks.

    If Trump didn't already have this history of actions and remarks that has been well-documented prior to this current incident, one could possibly say his initial comments were a verbal gaffe.

    Because Trump does have this history, it's clear what his attitudes are, so him walking back or expanding upon the initial comments is meaningless, if not downright insulting. Trump's chief political strategists, along with his Attorney General, all share Trump's viewpoint.

    Anybody with a pulse, half a brain and the ability to see/hear/read knows what the score is with Trump, blacks and white supremacists in terms of how [Trump] feels.

    It is what it is, and his feelings were - yet again - made clear with his initial response. So why should anybody bullshit themselves about it?
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    Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

    While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

    While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.
    Yes, but you have to ask yourself why Trump surrounds himself with the likes of Bannon, Miller, "The Mooch", Sessions and the like in the first place: the staff reflect their boss, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Part of the problem is Trump seems to be easily swayed to the opinion of who he spoke with last. I really think he is a lot less smart than GW was. Al Gore came away from meeting him thinking he had won him around on climate change.

    While Trump surrounds himself with people like Bannon then shit like this is going to happen a lot.

    Rumor has it that Bannon is about to be dumped into the East River,,,

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    He's a fat lazy spoiled old asshole. I don't think he cares about any cause other than his own ego.

    He doesn't have enough energy to be a nazi.

    Also I think we should refuse to use the term Neo-Nazi from now on as what's new and it allows them to try and distance themselves from the utter fucking failure and humiliation of the Hitler and Mussolini regimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yeah, but the problem with Trump and this issue goes well beyond the speed of his condemnation or the all-inclusiveness of his initial remark.

    From Trump's "it's clear they're all guilty" stance on the Central Park Five case (before the defendants were even tried...and even after they were later cleared and won a civil settlement against NYC, Trump never apologized or admitted he was wrong), to his propagating of the whole manufactured Obama Birther 'issue' (which he only begrudgingly admitted might not have been true last summer, several years after it was disproven), to his cutesy "I don't even know who David Duke is" remarks during the primaries...I mean, shit, even going back to the early 1970s when Trump and his father discriminated against minorities in terms of renting their apartment spaces to them...Trump has a long, LONG history of displaying racist attitudes toward blacks.

    It's quite simpler than that.

    1. Trump's father was arrested at a KKK rally in Queens in 1927.

    2. One of Trump's senior aides (Gorka) is a Nazi-sympathizer, opening wearing the "Order of Vitezi Rend", whose group murdered hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews in WWII.

    3. His Chief Strategist (Bannon) is an admitted White Nationalist.

    Frankly, the press is still not "going there", meaning there should be articles in all of major media outlets. They should be pounding those questions in every media availability to Trump and his minions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Rumor has it that Bannon is about to be dumped into the East River,,,
    Now THAT might be interesting.

    If only because unlike Spicer or Priebus, Bannon doesn't really care about a future in Establishment Republican politics. I'd also tend to doubt he's going to go the Karl Rove route and try and be some Establishment Republican meta-guru via a PAC. Bannon's viability is directly tied to Trump and Trump alone: once Trump shit cans him (which Trump WILL inevitably do at some point because Trump has no enduring loyalty to anyone other than himself), For those reasons, Bannon might be willing to tell a few tales with little care or concern for his political viability in terms of working within mainstream politics and media.

    However, I think Bannon was too smart to get directly involved with the Russian connections, and probably made it his business to willfully not know anything about any of that stuff. Bannon might be able to provide some detailed stories about Trump's inability to concentrate for lengthy periods of time and other character flaws...but would any of that really be anything other than yet another person confirming what we already know about Trump?

    If Bannon is to be dumped, Trump should ditch Bannon's toady Miller (on loan from Jeff Sessions) right along with him. Stop buying into all that "dismantling the deep state" Bannon-propagated fantasy nonsense, go for a modest tax cut and a small-ball infrastructure plan.

    At some point, Trump is going to have to put some sort of success up on the board: some type of legislation that will actually improve the lot of the lives of those who voted for him. And the clock is ticking, with a little more than a year to go until the 2018 mid-terms. I'm not saying the Dems will retake Congress in 2018 - they may well not - but if they do, at the rate Trump is going thus far his one accomplishment he'll be able to tout in 2020 (assuming he actually runs again) will be...what? His Supreme Court nomination being appointed? Temporarily saving 500 jobs at Carrier?

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    So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.
    Are you comparing them to our own three stooges here? Sesh, FORD and NickDickless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Now THAT might be interesting.

    ...
    It's said that Bannon is one of the "Leakers"...

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    In a rare comment on domestic policy, U.S. military chiefs what the fat old orange topped fucktard hasn't the balls too...

    US military leaders condemn racism after Charlottesville violence
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    By Zachary Cohen and Barbara Starr, CNN

    Updated 10:22 AM ET, Wed August 16, 2017


    Three of the US Joint Chiefs have condemned the violence in Charlottesville
    Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson was the first member of the military brass to weigh in

    Washington (CNN)In a rare move, top commanders in the US military are speaking out in the wake of the deadly violence that erupted at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend.
    Despite the criticism swirling around President Donald Trump's recent remarks -- in which he appeared to draw a moral equivalency between neo-Nazis and counter-protesters by blaming "both sides" for violence -- four US Joint Chiefs are issuing public condemnations of neo-Nazis, the Klu Klux Klan and white supremacist groups.
    The statements are not directly addressing Trump's comments but are instead presented as a message to the general public, their troops and potential recruits. The statements are notable as US military leaders traditionally uphold an ironclad commitment to stay out of politics.

    Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson was the first member of the military brass to weigh in on the issue, tweeting as news of the violence unfolded on Saturday.
    "Events in Charlottesville unacceptable and musn't be tolerated @USNavy for ever stands against intolerance & hatred," the post said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/politi...ism/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    So the counter protesters are calling the original group losers, for supporting the Nazis and the Confederacy. You know, both lost a war. But aren't most of the counter protesters Hilary supporters and voters? Didn't they just lose in November? Hello pot, meet kettle.
    When was that ever the fucking point? I thought it was that Trump failed to condemn what was a terrorist murder by a Nazi fucktard that was the typical pussy that couldn't cut it in the military and is probably gay, so he becomes a Nazi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Are you comparing them to our own three stooges here? Sesh, FORD and NickDickless?
    Nope, just missing the point that uneducated white fucktards voted for a Nazi sympathizer and a Russian fuckpuppet....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    When was that ever the fucking point? I thought it was that Trump failed to condemn what was a terrorist murder by a Nazi fucktard that was the typical pussy that couldn't cut it in the military and is probably gay, so he becomes a Nazi...
    I wasn't going to start another thread so I dumped a semi-related thing in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Nope, just missing the point that uneducated white fucktards voted for a Nazi sympathizer and a Russian fuckpuppet....
    See I don't think that making your argument that way is a great way to bring people across to not voting for Trump in future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    See I don't think that making your argument that way is a great way to bring people across to not voting for Trump in future...
    Well, cancel my political career then...

    And where has Ford been?

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    Come on .... spice this up a bit. We need input from our resident "insert term" you liberals ain't saying anything cuntrovertial. I want the roth army alt alt right to gimme some sugar
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    It's always either Trump's fault or George Soro's fault. I guess this is what has replaced pro-wrestling as entertainment. Agitating the masses.
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    What kind of fucking Nazis carry tiki torches that were purchased at the dollar store? Oh well. Let's tear down some more historical monuments and that will end all this faggotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What kind of fucking Nazis carry tiki torches that were purchased at the dollar store? Oh well. Let's tear down some more historical monuments and that will end all this faggotry.
    Homosexuality actually plays a big component in Nazism. Some times repressed, sometimes celebrated as some Spartan throwback of child rape and prison prostitution...

    Meet Ernst Rohm:



    https://daily.jstor.org/ernst-rohm-t...king-gay-nazi/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Homosexuality actually plays a big component in Nazism. Some times repressed, sometimes celebrated as some Spartan throwback of child rape and prison prostitution...

    Meet Ernst Rohm:



    https://daily.jstor.org/ernst-rohm-t...king-gay-nazi/
    Not that I have anything against tiki torches but carrying them in your so called Nazi march is pretty gay. The one thing that needs to be looked into is who financed the whole show. Antifa are paid troublemakers. I'm sure the so called Nazis are just a similar charade. Also interesting the police protection wasn't what it should have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What kind of fucking Nazis carry tiki torches that were purchased at the dollar store? Oh well. Let's tear down some more historical monuments and that will end all this faggotry.
    What counts as 'historical' anyway? How old exactly are these ancient relics, this isn't exactly the fucking pyramids we are talking about is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It's said that Bannon is one of the "Leakers"...
    It wouldn't surprise me.

    Kushner and Ivanka have leaked plenty of stories about how they have tried to influence various decisions Trump has made.

    Apparently, there are plenty of White House staffers leaking, along with various "deep bureaucratic state" employees in the State Department, EPA, Department of Energy, etc. Trump, in his typical fashion, has gone out of his way to be a prick to everybody. His various Cabinet heads have followed suit. Pushback was inevitable. Jeff Sessions trying to root out the leakers is a Fool's Errand.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is doing plenty of off-the-record leaking. He has a long history of that.

    It has also been said that Bannon is literally taking his role within the Administration day by day. Hey, everybody who signed on with Trump had to have known Trump has very, very few longstanding ties far as loyalty goes. Bannon's no dummy, wrongheaded as I think he is on a whole host of issues. Bannon knows Trump won't hesitate to ditch him in a heartbeat of [Trump] suddenly determines such a move serves his interests. This whole blather about Steve Bannon being some iconic, indispensable totemic figure to Trump's hardcore base is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    What counts as 'historical' anyway? How old exactly are these ancient relics, this isn't exactly the fucking pyramids we are talking about is it?
    I would say the US Civil War was historical. Do you remove a monument just because some ass wipes throw a tirade? A tirade over something that has nothing to do with the monuments. Nobody gave a damn until the media hyped it anyways.

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    Think he will shave and shower now? He was one sloppy looking son of a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me.

    Kushner and Ivanka have leaked plenty of stories about how they have tried to influence various decisions Trump has made.

    Apparently, there are plenty of White House staffers leaking, along with various "deep bureaucratic state" employees in the State Department, EPA, Department of Energy, etc. Trump, in his typical fashion, has gone out of his way to be a prick to everybody. His various Cabinet heads have followed suit. Pushback was inevitable. Jeff Sessions trying to root out the leakers is a Fool's Errand.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is doing plenty of off-the-record leaking. He has a long history of that.

    It has also been said that Bannon is literally taking his role within the Administration day by day. Hey, everybody who signed on with Trump had to have known Trump has very, very few longstanding ties far as loyalty goes. Bannon's no dummy, wrongheaded as I think he is on a whole host of issues. Bannon knows Trump won't hesitate to ditch him in a heartbeat of [Trump] suddenly determines such a move serves his interests. This whole blather about Steve Bannon being some iconic, indispensable totemic figure to Trump's hardcore base is bullshit.
    What got Trump elected was people were just tired of career politicians. They were willing to give an outsider a chance for the simple fact that it couldn't get any worse than it already was. Simple as that. It's not that Trump was that great it's that Hillary stunk so bad. The Dems shot themselves in the head running that bitch. Would Trump have beaten Bernie or someone else? Maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I would say the US Civil War was historical. Do you remove a monument just because some ass wipes throw a tirade? A tirade over something that has nothing to do with the monuments. Nobody gave a damn until the media hyped it anyways.
    Except many monuments, like the Lee statue in Charlotte, were essentially put up by the KKK during its resurgence in the 1920's. Not like in the period of 1866-1900, of which most monuments I have no problem with. There's even monuments in the North at Gettysburg where thousands of Confederate soldiers bravely (and stupidly) died in Pickett's Charge. BTW, Gen. Lee wanted no Confederate monuments and refused to fly the Confederate (Army's battle) flag while he was a dean at a southern college...

    And a bunch of nazi fucktards marching with Tiki torches, in their latently gay hipster haircuts and chanting "Jews will not replace us!", could give fuckall about the history of the American Civil War...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Except many monuments, like the Lee statue in Charlotte, were essentially put up by the KKK during its resurgence in the 1920's. Not like in the period of 1866-1900, of which most monuments I have no problem with. There's even monuments in the North at Gettysburg where thousands of Confederate soldiers bravely (and stupidly) died in Pickett's Charge. BTW, Gen. Lee wanted no Confederate monuments and refused to fly the Confederate (Army's battle) flag while he was a dean at a southern college...

    And a bunch of nazi fucktards marching with Tiki torches, in their latently gay hipster haircuts and chanting "Jews will not replace us!", could give fuckall about the history of the American Civil War...
    Ah someone engineered all this to get reactions out of people. Create some nazis for the left to hate and and then use that to motivate people to tear down Confederate monuments in hopes this creates a backlash of some sort while the media calls everyone the left hates racists. Especially Trump. It's all so contrived.

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    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...battle-w498383

    Donald Trump's Golf Course Plaque Honors Fake Civil War Battle



    A 2015 report about a factually inaccurate plaque featured at Donald Trump's Northern Virginia Trump National Golf Club has resurfaced this week in light of the president's controversial remarks about the violent weekend in Charlottesville – and his tweets about preserving Civil War memorabilia Thursday.

    The New York Times story, published with the headline "In Renovation of Golf Club, Donald Trump Also Dressed Up History," historians disputed the veracity of a plaque that sits between the 14th hole and the 15th tee of one of the club’s two courses.

    The plaque, which is attached to a flagpole on a stone pedestal overlooking the Potomac, reads: "Many great American soldiers, both of the North and South, died at this spot. The casualties were so great that the water would turn red and thus became known as 'The River of Blood.' It is my great honor to have preserved this important section of the Potomac River!"

    A Trump family crest appears under the inscription, along with Trump's full name. The plaque purportedly designates that portion of the Potomac as "The River of Blood."

    According to the Times story, three historians asserted that no such battle or designation has ever been given to that spot.

    "No. Uh-uh. No way. Nothing like that ever happened there," Richard Gillespie, the executive director of the Mosby Heritage Area Association, told the Times. "The only thing that was remotely close to that" was something that took place 11 miles up the river. The conflict there was known as the Battle of Ball's Bluff, took place in 1861 and involved several hundred deaths on the Union side.

    Trump was adamant about the accuracy of the plaque, however, and told the publication that he was certain the area was "a prime site for river crossings. So if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot – a lot of them."

    The closest historic spot where crossings took place during the Civil War is indeed not too far from Trump's club, but according to the historians, no one died in a crossing at that point, or in any other notable battle in the nearby area.

    Retorted real estate mogul: "How would they know that? Were they there?"

    Trump, a self-professed "big history fan," was unable to name the historians he claimed had told him the site was known as the River of Blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    What got Trump elected was people were just tired of career politicians. They were willing to give an outsider a chance for the simple fact that it couldn't get any worse than it already was. Simple as that. It's not that Trump was that great it's that Hillary stunk so bad. The Dems shot themselves in the head running that bitch. Would Trump have beaten Bernie or someone else? Maybe not.

    I agree in retrospect that the Dems put all of their eggs, in a DNC point of view, into the Hillary basket WAAAAAY too early. Their bias towards Hillary wasn't even hidden, it was TOO obvious....

    That said, what would (or COULD is the better way to phrase it) she have done in her first six months in office that would have been so horrible, especially considering how obstructionist the Republican Congress was throughout the Obama presidency?

    Raise taxes on millionaires? Nope, it would be blocked....

    Attempt to tweak Obamacare? Nope, it would be blocked....

    Infrastructure? Nope, it would be blocked....

    The only thing she probably could have done is nominate Garland to the Supreme Court (assuming), although the Republicans would make that as painful as possible before finally relenting....

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