Chickenshit Cheeto Changes His Mind at the last minute about JFK files.

[FORD]

zerohedge.com
Trump Blocks Full Release Of JFK Assassination Records After Last Minute CIA Push

With much of America clicking furiously all day Thursday on the website of the National Archives, hoping to be among the first to catch the release of thousands of previously unseen JFK Assassination records, the U.S. government was in danger of missing the deadline to release the trove of previously classified records from the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, "adding an unexpected twist to a saga already rife with rumors and conspiracies" according to NBC.

Caving to lobbying pressure by intelligence agencies, Trump announced he would not order the release of the full tranche of records, instead following last-minute recommendations of his national security agencies that some of those records be redacted, White House officials said. During a call with reporters, White House officials explained that while some 2,800 JFK records will be released today, the publications of the remaining records has been postponed for 180 days to give agencies more time to figure out what they want redacted. By late Thursday afternoon, the memo specifying which material the CIA, State Department and other agencies still want to keep under wraps had yet not made it to Trump’s desk, intel officials told NBC News.

“There’s a mad scramble going on in the executive branch to get this done,” one official said.

As CBS adds, the delay requests – some of which were registered a couple of months ago and some more recently - come from agencies throughout the government including the CIA and FBI. Some of the worry seems to center around documents created in the 1990's, when the congressional committee was crafting the legislation setting Thursday as the release date. Officials told CBS News there is concern the documents may reveal sources and operations from the near past and include current people or operations. Of particular concern, according to officials, are names in the documents.

CBS News' Chip Reid interviewed JFK scholar Larry Sabato, at the University of Virginia's Miller Center, who said he had been told that "at least most of it will not be released Thursday because not just the CIA, but apparently other agencies, unnamed -- I assume the FBI is one -- are appealing."

Sabato says that the CIA wants some of the names in the documents redacted, and some of the paragraphs they say reveal the names of sources or methods used by the CIA.

In any case, the reason behind the delay remains a mystery. As CNN's Jim Acosta notes, senior administration officials declined to discuss the contents of the files that will be released, including whether they contain evidence of a conspiracy surrounding Kennedy's death.

I asked officials whether there were any signs of a conspiracy in secret JFK files. Officials on call with reporters would not comment. https://t.co/mz1TxXceEk

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) October 26, 2017

Trump will issue a memo to heads of intelligence agencies saying "the American public expects and deserves its government to produce as much access as possible to the John F. Kennedy assassination records. "I am ordering today that the veil finally be lifted" on the records, the memo will say. The President will also note that law enforcement and foreign affairs agencies have requested that certain records remain redacted.

"I have no choice" but to keep those records under wraps, the memo will say. In his memo, Trump will order intelligence agencies to re-review their reasons for keeping the records redacted, and to report back in 180 days.

What will remain classified?

According to CNN, officials said the sensitive information that will remain redacted for now relates to "intelligence and law enforcement" details. That includes the identity of individuals involved in the investigation into the assassination and their roles as informants to law enforcement, a senior administration official said.

It also includes information about foreign partner organizations that were involved in the investigation, the official said.

"The President heard those justifications from the agencies that requested the continuing postponement and he acknowledged that information ... requires protection," the official said. Agencies requesting continued redaction of certain documents will need to submit a report to the archivist by March 12, 2018, explaining why those documents meet that standard, the White House said.

Documents determined to not meet those standards will need to be released by April 26, 2018.

Trump's decision to keep some documents secret is likely to keep conspiracy theories alive, fueling those who have long questioned official conclusions about the assassination and argued that the government has helped cover up the truth.

[FORD]

Most likely in another 6 months, the last living participant in the plot (CIA agent George HW Bush) will be in Hell, and no longer able to be compelled to testify.

[Seshmeister]

There are over 1800 books on the assassination. It's great that America can turn almost anything into a money making machine.

It's like gods, if you believe in the conspiracy take a minute to remember that means that the other 1799 of them are false so maybe the one you choose to believe is as well.

Consider how unlikely it is for the water in a puddle to exactly fit the hole and how strange it is that so few conspiracy theorists mention Oswald's assassination attempt on Edwin Walker weeks earlier.

Also try this - https://www.fileplanet.com/192027/19....1-(Free-Game)

[Von Halen]

In my mind, there is only one real book on this subject, and that is The Warren Report. I believe I posted my theory here many years ago. I’ve read the entire Warren Report. I believe Castro had Kennedy killed, because he found out about Kennedy’s intent to have him killed.

[FORD]

Richard Nixon Jack Ruby Prescott Bush

Yep..... nothing suspicious here at all.

[FORD]

[Seshmeister]

I'm past the point of even listening to anything Jones says - even he has admitted he's playing a character.

[Terry]

There are over 1800 books on the assassination. It's great that America can turn almost anything into a money making machine.

It's like gods, if you believe in the conspiracy take a minute to remember that means that the other 1799 of them are false so maybe the one you choose to believe is as well.

Consider how unlikely it is for the water in a puddle to exactly fit the hole and how strange it is that so few conspiracy theorists mention Oswald's assassination attempt on Edwin Walker weeks earlier.

Also try this - https://www.fileplanet.com/192027/19....1-(Free-Game)

There were a lot of peculiar synergies/coincidences with the JFK assassination. For decades I wanted to believe there was more to it than Oswald shooting alone. Mostly because JFK was pumped up post-assassination into this mythical president that he most certainly wasn't when you read journalism of the time and actually study the historical record as to what Kennedy did (as opposed to what people think he would have done had he lived).

The biggest historical consequence of JFK was how his death became a large part of Americans perpetually disbelieving things and engaging in a default conspiracy mindset as sort of a self-conditioned involuntary reflex, grasping at the thinnest of straws and building elaborate theories based largely upon innuendo, supposition and conjecture. A willful immersion down into the rabbit hole.

I mean, shit, I've read a truckload of books proclaiming Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy. The thing about those pro-conspiracy books is that for the most part the further away from the event they were published, the less they deal with documented facts. Consequently, the books on the subject with that slant published today tend to regurgitate other books published twenty or more years ago.

None of them address why Oswald gave that smirking, clenched-fist gesture to the cameras when he was handcuffed and being walked down a corridor while he was in custody.

Or why Oswald's 'curtain rods' were never found at the Depository. Vanishing curtain rods, btw, he supposedly got for his room which already had rods.

Or where Oswald's rifle he kept at the Paines went if Oswald himself didn't take it with him to work.

Or why while being questioned Oswald always became evasive when specifically asked about the Hidell alias and the connection between that and the mail-order rifle found on the 6th floor of the Depository?

Or why Oswald's revolver matched with the bullets used in the slaying of Officer Tippit, a crime witnessed by several people who positively identified Oswald that weekend as the assailant: why did Oswald shoot Tippit?

Why DID Oswald shoot at General Walker?

Why did Oswald leave the Depository immediately after the assassination, without being authorized to do so by his employer? He was only one of two who did.

I could ask dozens more questions along the same lines, and the simple answers (most backed up with eye/ear witness testimony) inevitably point to Oswald's guilt.

People would rather not arrive at a straightforward conclusion, and counter with "Nuh-huh! I saw the movie JFK!" When you point out that movie was Oliver Stone's semi-fictionalized account of Jim Garrison's late-1960s investigation, was chock full of composite characters undertaking activities in places that the real people didn't in reality, and that Garrison's investigation itself according to multiple ex-staff members was a fraud Garrison was inventing out of whole cloth as he went along, people put their hands over their ears and yell out " lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala...if I don't hear what you are saying it can't be true!"

Oswald did it. He had the means and opportunity to do so, and he did. Because he wanted to.

None of that isn't to say people don't ever engage in conspiratorial behavior.

It's useful to keep in mind the axiom that 3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead. Combine that with incompetence being pervasive from the richest and most powerful to the poorest of people - after all, that's part of what being human is - and just the notion of the flawlessness that by necessity would have to have been achieved to pull off these elaborate JFK theories...

[Terry]

Although Oswald's flirtation with anti-Castro elements...that association still remains troubling to my mind.

I have no doubt Oswald shot Kennedy.

I can't say I'm 100% sure Oswald wasn't consorting with others who also might have wanted Kennedy dead. 99.9% sure, but the Sylvia/Silvia Odio incident, coming around the time of Oswald's visitation of the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City...strange.

[Seshmeister]

I'm still today reading people say 'It wasn't Oswald because JFK's head went backwards'.

I've never hunted but I'm told if you do then this is absolute common knowledge that the head goes in the opposite direction you might think.

It's frustrating to see these things just never go away no matter how many times they are explained.

[Terry]

If you watch the Zapruder film at frames 312 and 313 when the head shot took place, well...what I see is Kennedy's head being slightly yet suddenly pushed forward - assumedly when the bullet impacted the head - THEN the backward motion.

I'm not an expert on the physics of how human bodies react when struck by high-velocity objects, but it has been said by others who have experience (law enforcement officers, hunters, etc.) shooting humans and animals that it isn't necessarily the case people/animals being shot will all physically react uniformly depending on what angle the missile was fired at them.

[Seshmeister]

It was a 'lucky' shot.

What bugs me is all the stuff where to make a hypothesis to sell a book or a blog or whatever, these people ignore all the shit that doesn't fit.

It's the exact same thing as the 9-11 conspiracy stuff. For example if you are reading or watching one of those things about the pentagon they never address the traffic jam of cars who saw the whole thing happen. Dozens of witnesses see the plane hit the building and give statements - never mentioned in these conspiracy things.

There is tons of stuff like that which is why 'mainstream' journalists (ie people that do it professionally and who are desperate for a scoop) don't go there because they look into it and see the whole picture rather than starting with an end story and trying to make the facts fit it.

I used to worry about the Jack Ruby thing but when you dig into that it makes sense too.

[Terry]

It was a 'lucky' shot to a point.

However, Oswald was a skilled marksman in the Marines and had recently practiced firing the rifle prior to the assassination.

I don't mind if someone comes to whatever conclusion they're going to come to if they've reached it as a careful result of their own study.

Starting off with a conclusion then selectively applying what is known (and rejecting as disinformation or fake news or whatever facts that don't fit the theory) to reach that endpoint is just dishonest.

Most mainstream journalists are just lazy and have a herd mentality with one eye on the commerce of it. That's why sex scandals, political name calling and the like get such widespread, ubiquitous coverage: low hanging fruit.

Far as Ruby, the guy was unhinged. Who would trust a guy like that to off Oswald? If the Dallas Police were in on it, why not just murder Oswald via faking a suicide by hanging while Oswald was in his cell? And why not just say that Oswald confessed, then went to his cell and hung himself? No, apparently it was more logical to have Ruby shoot Oswald while [Oswald] was only steps away from being put into a police car, while he was standing between 2 police detectives and a parking garage basement full of other cops. Being that they were all in on it, of course they would have all agreed to put themselves proximate to Ruby while he was firing a gun which could have been deflected and killed any one of the other officers standing around. Ruby was a crackpot who had stalked Oswald at the police station. Had Oswald himself not decided to change shirts before he was escorted downstairs, he would have safely made it to the car when you look at the time stamp of the money order Ruby sent from the Western Union minutes before shooting Oswald: but for that clothing change, Oswald would have made it to the car.

It's the same sort of nonsense as the Umbrella Man, who people honestly thought would have agreed to have stood 50-100 feet from JFK while three shooters in three locations were firing rifles at Kennedy: the idea being that Umbrella Man would place himself in harm's way because he would easily be able to dodge any rifle ricochet?

Yet this counterintuitive lunacy about this massive conspiracy persists in spite of people having the ability to look at the minutiae on simplistic, believable terms, rather than trying to pound square pegs into round holes.

[FORD]

[Nickdfresh]

It was a 'lucky' shot.

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The shots weren't particularly difficult from strictly a technical perspective. Kennedy was well under 100m away and moving very slowly...

[Von Halen]

[Kristy]

Von, still a pussy as always

[Terry]

Trump 2020.

Grab 'em by the pussy...again

[DavidLeeNatra]

...and by most of the civilised world and every clear thinking human being with an IQ above sea level...go figure