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    Poll: Views of Democratic Party hit lowest mark in 25 years

    Washington (CNN) Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century of polling, according to new numbers from a CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

    Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Democrats, down from 44% in March of this year. A majority, 54%, have an unfavorable view, matching their highest mark in polls from CNN and SSRS, CNN/ORC and CNN/USA Today/Gallup stretching back to 1992.

    The rating includes low favorable ratings from some core Democratic groups, including nonwhites (48%) and people under 35 years old (33%). The numbers come amid recent feuds and divisions in the Democratic Party, as former interim chair Donna Brazile's new book has unveiled new questions about infighting during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    But the Republican Party isn't doing any better, with just 30% of Americans holding a favorable view. That's essentially the same as September, when the rating hit its lowest point in polling back to 1992, but down from 42% in March. A broad 6 in 10, 61%, have an unfavorable opinion.

    This means both parties sit at or near rock bottom as voters go to the polls across the country on Tuesday, most prominently in governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey, as well as dozens of local and mayoral races nationwide.

    A substantial 33% of liberals and 41% of conservatives have unfavorable views of the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively. Plus, 4 in 10 independents, 42%, say they have an unfavorable view of both parties vs. only 8% who say they have a favorable view of both.

    Indeed, a bare majority of Americans, 51%, say it's bad for the country that the Republican Party is in control of Congress. Only 38% say GOP control is good for the nation. That's worse than at any point in CNN's polling on the Democratic majority in Congress between 2007 and 2010.

    A look ahead to 2018
    But at least for now, all of those negatives for the GOP appear to outweigh the Democrats' decline in popularity when it comes to the ballot box, with Democrats continuing to hold a lead on a generic congressional ballot. Democrats top Republicans on that question by a wide 12 percentage points, 50% to 38%. That's similar to a 14-point gap between the two parties last month.

    Republicans and Democrats remain almost unanimously united behind their own candidates in 2018, but Democrats hold a crucial 10-point lead among independents.

    There are more warning signs for Democrats in this poll. Overall, 36% of registered voters who identify as Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents say they are extremely or very enthusiastic about voting next year, down from 44% who said so in September. That puts Democratic enthusiasm on par with that of Republicans, which stands at 37%.

    And there are signs in the poll that more of next year's vote may be driven by dislike of a party than affection for one.

    Sweeping majorities of voters have unfavorable views of the party they won't support in 2018: 87% of people who say they'd back a Democrat have an unfavorable view of the Republican Party, and 89% of those who say they'll back the Republican have a negative view of the Democrats.

    Still, a sizable number view the party they do plan to vote for unfavorably: A third of voters on both sides, 32%, say they have an unfavorable view of the party whose candidate they say they'll support in 2018.

    Trump's record unpopularity, now down to just 36% approval, also bleeds into the midterm elections: Roughly the same number, 35%, say they'd be more likely to vote for a candidate who supports Trump over one who opposes the president, down from 41% in April.

    Americans say their own member of Congress deserves re-election in November, 46% to 39%, with a sizable 15% unsure. But two-thirds, 65%, say most members of Congress don't deserve re-election. Even among Republicans, who control both chambers of Congress, 51% say most members aren't worthy of another term.

    The future of GOP tax reform

    On the Republican tax reform plan, only 31% of Americans say they support the GOP tax reform proposals in Congress. Less than half, 45%, say they oppose the plans, down from 52% last month, when the question wording included Donald Trump's name. A quarter have no opinion on GOP tax reform plans.

    Support for the tax plan overall is largely split down party lines: 64% of Republicans, 31% of independents and 8% of Democrats say they support the plan.

    Only 21% say they will be better off under the GOP tax plan vs. 32% who say they will be worse off, similar to the divide in October before details of the plan were released. And by a two-to-one margin, Americans say it would increase the deficit instead of shrinking it, 40% to 18%.

    Republican leaders in Congress have said they hope to pass sweeping tax reform legislation by the end of December, adding at least one major legislative accomplishment in their first year.

    Majorities of Americans oppose some core tenets of the GOP tax plan: 52% say they oppose lowering the corporate tax rate, 56% say they oppose repealing the estate tax and 52% oppose eliminating deductions for state and local income and sales taxes.

    Still, majorities back some parts: a broad, bipartisan 79% say they support increasing the child tax credit and 55% say they favor increasing the standard deduction. About half of Americans, 49%, say they favor limiting the home interest deduction to only $500,000 worth of mortgage debt.

    The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS by telephone Nov. 2 to Nov. 5 among a random national sample of 1,021 adults. The margin of sampling error for results among the full sample is plus or minus 3.6 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups.
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    And yet Bernie Sanders remains the most popular political figure in the country. Which means the problem is not with the Democratic Party itself, but rather with these goddamned useless DLC Turd Way Hillbots who hijacked the party.

    They are to Democrats what Pat Robertson is to Christianity and Osama Bin Laden is to Islam. Osama's burning in Hell, Pat - by the looks of him - ain't far from it, and it's way past time to go 3 for 3. If the "Democratic party" wants to win elections again, they'll run Democrats for office. Not Goldwater Republicans (or worse).
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    Look at Trump though.

    The UK is kind of similar where you have both sides being unpopular.

    Politics seems to be broken, the Russians and Chinese must be delighted.




    TRUMP’S APPROVAL RATING IS TANKING TO NEW LOWS AS HIS BASE FALLS APART




    BY CHRIS RIOTTA ON 11/7/17 AT 11:36 AM

    President Donald Trump’s base appeared to be anything but intact this week, as his approval ratings continued their decline to lows that no other president in modern American history has suffered during a first year in office.

    Support among the noncollege-educated white voters who made up a big portion of the Trump base throughout the 2016 election dropped 13 percent in a CNN poll published Monday afternoon, to 49 percent from 59 percent approval at the 100-day mark. In the poll conducted Thursday through Sunday, the commander in chief’s overall approval rating among voters also reached a new low for a CNN survey since Inauguration Day, dipping to 36 percent from 37 percent, as independents and minorities also continued to abandon Trump.

    Trump’s base in recent weeks has appeared increasingly dissatisfied with his handling of public service duties since taking control of the Oval Office. The majority of working class white and independent voters said they disapproved of the president’s efforts on upholding his campaign promises, according to a Fox News poll published October 30, including tax and health care reform.

    The latest CNN poll aligned with other red flags for Trump throughout the week, including in Gallup’s polling published Monday: The president’s approval hit a new low, at 33 percent. It doesn’t look like his problems are going away anytime soon, either.

    The president’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and his business partner, Rick Gates, were indicted last week as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump team’s suspected collusion with Russian operatives during the election. The White House was reportedly in disarray as the bombshell dropped that a federal grand jury approved the investigation’s first charges.

    Nearly half of Americans said they believe Trump himself committed a crime in his alleged dealings with the Russians, according to an ABC News/Washington Post poll published Thursday. That number was well up from an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll published in July, in which 25 percent of those surveyed said they suspected the president committed illegal acts during the campaign, while 29 percent said they believed that he had been unethical but that his actions did not amount to a crime.

    Unfortunately for Trump, dubbing the Russia probe “fake news” doesn’t seem to be making the issue disappear as quickly as his base appears to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    And yet Bernie Sanders remains the most popular political figure in the country. Which means the problem is not with the Democratic Party itself, but rather with these goddamned useless DLC Turd Way Hillbots who hijacked the party.

    They are to Democrats what Pat Robertson is to Christianity and Osama Bin Laden is to Islam. Osama's burning in Hell, Pat - by the looks of him - ain't far from it, and it's way past time to go 3 for 3. If the "Democratic party" wants to win elections again, they'll run Democrats for office. Not Goldwater Republicans (or worse).
    Well the Republicans have RINO's. The Hillary and Debbie Wasserman Schultz types on the Democrat side should be called DINO's. Fitting because they are "has beens" and truly are dinosaurs. Basically people who believe in nothing except for money and power for themselves.
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    Ha! Donna Brazile jumped into a life boat while the other crazy hags are screaming "Full speed ahead!!!" with the SS Democrat heading strait for an ice berg. Donna doesn't want to go down with the ship. She's the smart one.

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    I asked Satan about it the other day and he's pretty sure Donna's just trying to make sure she has air conditioning when she gets to Hell. But she's still going there, because she was a big part of the party's destruction (even if she had a sudden attack of conscience about this most recent chapter of Hillbot fuckery.)

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    Brazile had an attack of conscience after she was fired from her CNN gig and Hillary lost.

    Brazile, in my eyes, is part of the problem: far too many perennial people like Brazile who have been hanging around the Democratic Party for at least a 1/4 century. Not just consultants and talking head advocates, but elected officials as well. The lot of whom have little to show for their efforts other than saving Bill Clinton from being removed from office over a blowjob. Under their watch, we got two terms of GW Bush and now Donald Trump for our troubles. Incomes have remained flat for the average working person in this country for decades, health insurance costs have increased while the amount of care covered has shrunk...

    ...oh, and we got Barack Obama. Who certainly didn't owe his victories and appeal to the Clinton Democratic Establishment: biggest mistake he ever made was inviting Hillary into his tent, then advising Biden not to run last year because it was "her turn."

    On a whole host of issues (health insurance, taxes, infrastructure, social concerns) I'm left of the Democratic Party as it stands today. Brazile is endemic of the type of centrist establishmentarians controlling the Democratic Party that need to be left to the mistakes of history if the Democratic Party is going to stand for something other then slightly less brutal conservatism than today's Republicans advocate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Look at Trump though.

    The UK is kind of similar where you have both sides being unpopular.

    Politics seems to be broken, the Russians and Chinese must be delighted.
    The main stat that is really bad for Trump is that uneducated white people are deserting him...
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    Here’s a stat for you NickDickless. Trump is your President, and all your sniveling and whining like a bitch, ain’t gonna change it.

    Good thing the educated white people aren’t deserting him. You know, the ones unlike you, that can spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Here’s a stat for you NickDickless. Trump is your President, and all your sniveling and whining like a bitch, ain’t gonna change it.

    Good thing the educated white people aren’t deserting him. You know, the ones unlike you, that can spell.
    Oooh, Von caught a typo. Trump never really had educated white people aside from mindless Republicans. Who's whining? You're the one that seems to be so worried about "due process". You know, like Mueller exposing what a corrupt fuckwit you drone for?


    LOL You were the one whining and sniveling about "liberal violence".


    After I finish my lecture on Sartre, I'm going to beat up VonHagar and take his lunch money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The main stat that is really bad for Trump is that uneducated white people are deserting him...
    They were dissing Trump on the Country Music Awards the other night. The Nashville establishment is historically VERY right wing. When Chimpy was in the White House, Nashville was practically a state propganda organ. There were country singers who literally launched their careers on FAUX Noize!!

    But Cheeto? He's too much even for them. Maybe the massacre in Las Vegas - targeting their own audience - was a wake up call?

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    I️ would have loved you to try and take my lunch money NickDickless!

    Besides, you know I’m such a nice guy, all you gotta do is ask! You know every time we went to dinner, I️ treated you like the Liberal you are, and paid your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    And yet Bernie Sanders remains the most popular political figure in the country.
    Please seek some serious mental health counseling.
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    Hahaha honest Trump... a crook for over 40 years v. a debunked story about old Bernie.

    Look it up on Snopes or any of the fact checking sites - FAKE NEWS

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    To use your own words Sesh, just because you want it to be true, doesn’t mean it is!

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    You are wrong.

    This is the huge problem at the moment. Who told you that was true? Have you checked that? Have you looked to see if they are a good source? Have you checked sources that are not politically motivated?

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