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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    The gun industry telling gullible people they need to defend themselves from terrorism by buying their products.

    Here are the actual stats
    Really? Instead of trying to support your socialist pontification; use your goggglebox to find:

    Unpublished CDC Study Confirms over 2 Million Annual Defensive Gun Uses

    Good little TARDO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post

    Felons already can't own gun. Unless some empathetic leftist gave them back their rights. (That would never happen.)
    Yes, they are called Republicans. Anyhoo, your ghey-as-fuck argument holds no water seeing felons commit crimes with guns in this country every god damn day.

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    I looked at that and it uses language like “reasonable specificity” TARD is using the same words to describe what constitutes a person who might hurt themselves or wives/kids/girlfriends. What do we have? Confiscation.
    Odd that you don't know the fucking difference between confiscation and seizure of a weapon. If confiscation were true the guns that the police seized from Reinking would have never been returned to him or his father. Guess either one of you received the message because your imaginary jackbooted gun grabbers gave all the guns back to the American hero little terrorist Reinking. Such an unwise choice given that little terrorist Reinking went off to Washington behaving stranger than a homoerotic Rothtard with the voices in his head telling him Taylor Swift had wanted to fuck him in between bouts about wanting to kill himself. In in the arest report from when little terrorist Reinking went off to Washington they stated “Travis is hostile toward police and does not recognize police authority. Travis also possesses several firearms." Despite all his talk of suicide and disillusions of Ms. Swift so desperately wanting to suck his cock, Reinking apparently was able to keep his guns, because how else could he defend America against its enemies?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    That's the AIDS talking...
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    Oooooh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    You're really not getting this or you're yanking on me.

    Felons already can't own gun. Unless some empathetic leftist gave them back their rights. (That would never happen.)
    WTF would they? It you're charged with assaulting and terrorizing your family, or are an erratic mentally ill fuckwit (like you), you shouldn't have one either. But of course the NRA has actually helped felons get guns with their relentless rollbacks of laws on the books by lobbying politicians to neuter the ATF...

    I looked at that and it uses language like “reasonable specificity” TARD is using the same words to describe what constitutes a person who might hurt themselves or wives/kids/girlfriends. What do we have? Confiscation.

    "Nobody is advocating confiscation, dipshit..."
    You have a complete "misnomer", strawman "tard". Because no one is saying confiscate guns from law abiding citizens.

    If a "Muslim" says he wants to kill Americans (while living in Orlando), punches his wife, and has been arrested for walking naked into his neighbor's bathroom: should he be allowed to keep his HK416?

    Because that is EXACTLY what you are saying! That he should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
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    Oooooh!!!

    Oh, you're so not gay!

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    Asscracksmar, with a little dick when he looks into the mirror/would not know a "commie lib" from his little dick NRA fib/ he so stupid and gave only give a blank stare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Oh, you're so not gay!
    Yet, you kinda are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Yet, you kinda are.
    Not in any sense of the word...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Yes, they are called Republicans. Anyhoo, your ghey-as-fuck argument holds no water seeing felons commit crimes with guns in this country every god damn day.



    Odd that you don't know the fucking difference between confiscation and seizure of a weapon. If confiscation were true the guns that the police seized from Reinking would have never been returned to him or his father. Guess either one of you received the message because your imaginary jackbooted gun grabbers gave all the guns back to the American hero little terrorist Reinking. Such an unwise choice given that little terrorist Reinking went off to Washington behaving stranger than a homoerotic Rothtard with the voices in his head telling him Taylor Swift had wanted to fuck him in between bouts about wanting to kill himself. In in the arest report from when little terrorist Reinking went off to Washington they stated “Travis is hostile toward police and does not recognize police authority. Travis also possesses several firearms." Despite all his talk of suicide and disillusions of Ms. Swift so desperately wanting to suck his cock, Reinking apparently was able to keep his guns, because how else could he defend America against its enemies?


    So go fuck yourself.
    So the no guns for felons laws don't work. And we agree again.


    Listen my little g string TARDO, what part of individual rights are you struggling with?

    The father was not guilty of any crime, had not been convicted of a crime, and due to that, had not forfeited his rights. Get it?

    The issue is not that they allowed someone to keep the firearms. The issue in is that the duly appointed government official who had them, ultimately gave them back to the person who had mental problems. Like yourself. James Shaw Jr. is a hero btw.

    Taylor Swift is a KISS fan, so go fuck yourself...

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    Oh fuck! It's American terrorism


    Quick! Buy an AR-15 everybody because the goat-cheese faced lizard Illuminati bitch who is also a serial killer with partner in crime Tim McGraw are CUMMING FOR YOUR GOD DAMN GUNS!

    Just ask asscracksmar. He'll tell you the truth Oh, and don't forget to blame Obama before going to sleep tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Not in any sense of the word...
    Well, in the sense that you support special gay rights, support gay marriage, support gay athletes, vote for gay politicians, and have yet to compliment Debra Jo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    So the no guns for felons laws don't work. And we agree again.
    No, you miss the god damn point, as usual.

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The father was not guilty of any crime, had not been convicted of a crime, and due to that, had not forfeited his rights. Get it?
    Who said he was, you suspended monkey fart?

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The issue is not that they allowed someone to keep the firearms.
    Um, yes it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The issue in is that the duly appointed government official who had them, ultimately gave them back to the person who had mental problems. Like yourself. James Shaw Jr. is a hero btw.
    Yeah, and it fuckmucks like you who voted for a Rethuglicon congress to keep it that way, you reverse fart-sucking homoerotic ballsack on a string.

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Taylor Swift is a KISS fan, so go fuck yourself...
    Taylor Swift is Satan in a pop country pantomime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    No, you miss the god damn point, as usual.
    Who said he was, you suspended monkey fart?
    Um, yes it is.
    Yeah, and it fuckmucks like you who voted for a Rethuglicon congress to keep it that way, you reverse fart-sucking homoerotic ballsack on a string.
    Taylor Swift is Satan in a pop country pantomime.
    Suspended monkey fart? You got me. How does that happen? Is it still up the monkey's rectum or has been passed and just hangs in the area? And when you say monkey, do you mean like chimp or David Schwimmer's buddy?

    You really needn't get your gstring in a froth over Taylor Swift. They said the same thing about Barbra Mandrell.

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    Whatever, you reverse fart-sucker.

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    You really shouldn't insult Satan by associating Taylor Swift with him.
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    Taylor Swift is Satan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Well, in the sense that you support special gay rights, support gay marriage, support gay athletes, vote for gay politicians, and have yet to compliment Debra Jo...
    I guess if you mean not opposing the above or giving much of a fuck about any of it, then I guess. You seem to care a lot though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Taylor Swift is Satan.
    She looks like a sex robot.
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.ea4e9325ecb4

    Parkland kid draws fire for shooting AR-15 at gun range


    by Josh Replogle and Kelli Kennedy | AP April 24

    PARKLAND, Fla. — A Marjory Stoneman Douglas student alleges he was aggressively questioned by school administrators and local law enforcement after posting on social media that he fired an assault weapon at a gun range with his dad.

    Junior Kyle Kashuv said he was brought in for questioning Monday by a school security officer and a Broward County deputy in what he says was an attempt to intimidate him.

    On Tuesday, Kashuv told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that the meeting with officials was an interrogation.

    After first being questioned by a school security officer, a Broward County deputy entered the room and sat behind the teen, Kashuv said. The deputy began asking Kashuv who the rifle belonged to and who he went shooting with. Kashuv said he asked if he could record the interview and was told that he couldn’t. The teen said he felt like the deputy was trying to get him to incriminate his father.

    On Friday, Kashuv posted videos on Twitter showing him firing an AR-15 rifle at a target, saying it “strengthened my love for 2A” and taught him “America is the greatest country ever, where freedom intensifies and liberty is required to be a real American.”

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    Kashuv forgot to mention exercising his right to attention-whoring... but failed to exercise his common sense right of discretion...

    If you don't want to subject yourself to scrutiny by law enforcement, it's generally best to not broadcast your personal business via social media... especially firing weapons in the heart of the center of a gun control debate!! That's called exercising your god given right to be a dumbass... good life lesson for the kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Kashuv forgot to mention exercising his right to attention-whoring... but failed to exercise his common sense right of discretion...

    If you don't want to subject yourself to scrutiny by law enforcement, it's generally best to not broadcast your personal business via social media... especially firing weapons in the heart of the center of a gun control debate!! That's called exercising your god given right to be a dumbass... good life lesson for the kid.
    Society in general has gone dumbass. I went to a school where almost all the guys had a knife on them and a gun in their truck in the school parking lot. Especially if it was hunting season. We had fist fights. Nobody pulled a knife. Nobody grabbed their gun. That would be the psycho sissy way of doing things. So the problem really is sissy assed kids who grew up on a game console and nobody bothered to teach them right from wrong at daycare.

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    Kashuv??

    Figures... the Russian kid would be the Trumpsucking ammosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Society in general has gone dumbass. I went to a school where almost all the guys had a knife on them and a gun in their truck in the school parking lot. Especially if it was hunting season. We had fist fights. Nobody pulled a knife. Nobody grabbed their gun. That would be the psycho sissy way of doing things. So the problem really is sissy assed kids who grew up on a game console and nobody bothered to teach them right from wrong at daycare.
    I grew up in very similar times with knives and guns everywhere... school violence consisted of fist fights. Most of which quickly degraded to pathetic wrasslin matches as nobody was very good at throwing punches to begin with.

    I believe the problem with game consoles is the immersion factor and all that simulated violence has no consequences. Most kids don't end up emulating that shit in real life... but for the weak minded and mentally unstable it's not a good environment for them to spend significant time engaged in. That's a differing factor today that wasn't present growing up in the 60's & 70's as a kid.

    Also especially in the 60's due to the civil rights movement and anti-war flareups... the US was a pretty dangerous place to live and grow up. People were making bombs and blowing up shit, killing people and even those who were supposed to be on the good side of the law were pretty brutal and violent. I recall the images and news reports from that era... it was much more violent with dire consequences than anything kids in the US have grown up with since... If you acted out inappropriately back then... society was swift, brutal and unforgiving in dishing out justice!

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    There were some kids in my high school who I thought were on the crazy side. They didn't actually carry automatic weapons around school, but they did carry magazines (the paper kind, not ammo) advertising such weapons... "Soldier of Fortune" and that kind of thing. And some cheesy paperback series about a team of paramilitary gun nut terrorist types. One of these guys even considered himself to be a "Christian" and we had a number of debates about who Jesus would shoot.

    That said though, it never really entered my mind that one of them would ever actually bring live weapons to school and/or use them there. There was one kid who died from stabbing wounds.... essentially self-inflicted as he was holding a knife in a very stupid way, just fucking around, and right next to a door which opened when he wasn't expecting it.

    During the semester when the high school was under construction and we were forced to share lockers with other students (and not our choice of partners unfortunately) that was the one time I ever had serious concerns about somebody's mental health, when I opened by locker one morning and found a belt of 50 caliber shells and a bazooka barrel in it. Told the asshole if he ever put something like that in my locker again, he would find it relocated up his ass. Didn't bother going to the principal about it or anything like that though... I spent too much time there as it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I grew up in very similar times with knives and guns everywhere... school violence consisted of fist fights. Most of which quickly degraded to pathetic wrasslin matches as nobody was very good at throwing punches to begin with.

    I believe the problem with game consoles is the immersion factor and all that simulated violence has no consequences. Most kids don't end up emulating that shit in real life... but for the weak minded and mentally unstable it's not a good environment for them to spend significant time engaged in. That's a differing factor today that wasn't present growing up in the 60's & 70's as a kid.

    Also especially in the 60's due to the civil rights movement and anti-war flareups... the US was a pretty dangerous place to live and grow up. People were making bombs and blowing up shit, killing people and even those who were supposed to be on the good side of the law were pretty brutal and violent. I recall the images and news reports from that era... it was much more violent with dire consequences than anything kids in the US have grown up with since... If you acted out inappropriately back then... society was swift, brutal and unforgiving in dishing out justice!


    This is such an old man point of view.

    Violent crime is lower now than it was when you were at school. The time you describe with the 'unused' knives and guns was one of the most violent in US history.

    Video games probably reduce crime because you don't get so many bunches of disaffected youths hanging about bored outside looking for trouble, they are indoors pretending to kill each other online.





    See that big fucking spike when you were a teenager (no I don't mean the one during the Depression. )





    What caused the big drop in the 1990s? Video games or Bill Clinton? Or maybe abortions of unwanted future scumbags 18 years earlier kicking in but that's not something you'll ever hear a US politician admit.
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    It occurred to me probably some proper academic research has been done on this rather than me just shooting my mouth off so I looked it up and I was half right.

    It seems to have been 50% due to locking everyone up in prison and 50% Roe v Wade 20 years earlier.

    http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...yCrime2004.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is such an old man point of view.


    What caused the big drop in the 1990s? Video games or Bill Clinton? Or maybe abortions of unwanted future scumbags 18 years earlier kicking in but that's not something you'll ever hear a US politician admit.
    sesh, you are really gullible. It's embarrassing.

    That crime rate chart doesn't even begin to tell anyone the truth. HillBilly caused the crime rate to drop. REMEMBER: WJC was the first black president.

    So WJC talked to his Attorney General JR and the two of them decided to move Part I crimes to Part II crimes based on race and location. Had something to do with Vernon Jordan.

    Eventually police departments across the US quit reporting. The data local PD's were turning in was changed to fit the narrative.

    It goes on today. Under Kenyan Houseboy BHOle, you had to look really hard to the nationality of the perp.

    Keep the socialist flame burning. It's expected of TARDOs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is such an old man point of view.

    Violent crime is lower now than it was when you were at school. The time you describe with the 'unused' knives and guns was one of the most violent in US history.

    Video games probably reduce crime because you don't get so many bunches of disaffected youths hanging about bored outside looking for trouble, they are indoors pretending to kill each other online.

    See that big fucking spike when you were a teenager (no I don't mean the one during the Depression. )


    What caused the big drop in the 1990s? Video games or Bill Clinton? Or maybe abortions of unwanted future scumbags 18 years earlier kicking in but that's not something you'll ever hear a US politician admit.
    Sesh... face it. You are no longer a young man yourself. May be time to adjust your delivery perspective...

    I think you misunderstood my point... I clearly stated my time as a kid was much more violent and crime ridden than today. Statistical crime rates per capita today are significantly below what they were when both you and I were kids. No question about it.

    Those committing crimes and who they are targeting has changed measurably though comparing then and now... we were discussing the matter of mass shootings with high capacity weapons in schools by students. A crime element that didn't exist back then...

    I don't believe gaming nor Slick Willie Clinton had a damn thing to do with the drop in overall crime statistics. That shift is/was more directly tied to civil rights, race relations, hate crimes and a huge shift in the social conscientiousness in how treat each other broadly across the US. Today's violent crime is most concentrated in large cities, by younger age groups and directly tied to economic factors, the drug trade and warring within races.

    Specific to these school shootings... I was making a correlation to a combination of mental illness, social isolation and potentially gaming may have had a contributing factor. It's just a thought... I'm no expert. Just an "old guy" chatting with other old guys looking at what existed then and now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    That shift is/was more directly tied to civil rights, race relations, hate crimes and a huge shift in the social conscientiousness in how treat each other broadly across the US.
    ZZ, if you've filled out a lottery slip, that's all a sheriff''s dept. had to do in the late 80's and early 90's. It had age, race, gender, city, county, and basically Part I or Part II crime on the data slip provided back to FBI. It identified the victim in the same fashion. Fill in the circle. This worked fine and the data was 98% accurate. You could do pie charts, bar graphs, and real numbers per capita for example.

    This worked until Vernon Jordan decided the circle was biased. That's a fact.

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    The dispute about control of crime statistics and research came into the open recently after a Justice Department official leaked a major report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics to The Associated Press. The report was the bureau's annual study of the crime rate and had been held up for two months awaiting review by senior Justice Department officials, employees familiar with it say. The report showed a 9 percent decrease in violent crimes. Not one of these people has raised an accusation that this report, or any other, has been skewed.

    Although it might seem arcane, the crime victims' survey was ''always hot news in the Justice Department'' and in the Clinton White House, Mr. Chaiken said, because data showing a drop in crime were beneficial to the administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is such an old man point of view.

    Violent crime is lower now than it was when you were at school. The time you describe with the 'unused' knives and guns was one of the most violent in US history.

    Video games probably reduce crime because you don't get so many bunches of disaffected youths hanging about bored outside looking for trouble, they are indoors pretending to kill each other online.





    See that big fucking spike when you were a teenager (no I don't mean the one during the Depression. )





    What caused the big drop in the 1990s? Video games or Bill Clinton? Or maybe abortions of unwanted future scumbags 18 years earlier kicking in but that's not something you'll ever hear a US politician admit.
    Some have speculated that the return of suburbanites to big cities in itself is a deterrent effect as it's harder to be a scumbag with a lot more people on the streets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    ZZ, if you've filled out a lottery slip, that's all a sheriff''s dept. had to do in the late 80's and early 90's. It had age, race, gender, city, county, and basically Part I or Part II crime on the data slip provided back to FBI. It identified the victim in the same fashion. Fill in the circle. This worked fine and the data was 98% accurate. You could do pie charts, bar graphs, and real numbers per capita for example.

    This worked until Vernon Jordan decided the circle was biased. That's a fact.

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    The dispute about control of crime statistics and research came into the open recently after a Justice Department official leaked a major report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics to The Associated Press. The report was the bureau's annual study of the crime rate and had been held up for two months awaiting review by senior Justice Department officials, employees familiar with it say. The report showed a 9 percent decrease in violent crimes. Not one of these people has raised an accusation that this report, or any other, has been skewed.

    Although it might seem arcane, the crime victims' survey was ''always hot news in the Justice Department'' and in the Clinton White House, Mr. Chaiken said, because data showing a drop in crime were beneficial to the administration.

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    So basically you don't trust the idiots that you voted for and their Justice Dept.?

    The fact is that you were THREE TIMES more likely to die a violent death in Colonial and Revolutionary America than you are today....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Sesh... face it. You are no longer a young man yourself. May be time to adjust your delivery perspective...

    I think you misunderstood my point... I clearly stated my time as a kid was much more violent and crime ridden than today. Statistical crime rates per capita today are significantly below what they were when both you and I were kids. No question about it.

    Those committing crimes and who they are targeting has changed measurably though comparing then and now... we were discussing the matter of mass shootings with high capacity weapons in schools by students. A crime element that didn't exist back then...

    I don't believe gaming nor Slick Willie Clinton had a damn thing to do with the drop in overall crime statistics. That shift is/was more directly tied to civil rights, race relations, hate crimes and a huge shift in the social conscientiousness in how treat each other broadly across the US. Today's violent crime is most concentrated in large cities, by younger age groups and directly tied to economic factors, the drug trade and warring within races.

    Specific to these school shootings... I was making a correlation to a combination of mental illness, social isolation and potentially gaming may have had a contributing factor. It's just a thought... I'm no expert. Just an "old guy" chatting with other old guys looking at what existed then and now...
    I think gaming has more to do with it than we admit. I was talking to an ex cop friend of mine and he said games and a lack of being taught right from wrong makes kids tend to be more violent. Saw an example of this yesterday. One of the kids in our neighborhood pulled a knife on his brother when a fight broke out over some popcorn. Now like I said, where I grew up everyone had a knife on them. Usually a nice lock blade. We never pulled our knifes even when we got into fist fights. You just didn't go there. Now kids go there immediately over who gets more popcorn. They really seem to be out of touch with how dangerous things like knives are. Why? They play with weapons on a game console. Something doesn't seem to register in their minds that a knife and an accident with one mind kill your brother and sure you are pissed at him at the moment but it nowhere justifies pulling a knife on him. We had knives and we had guns. I could have caused lots of carnage with my semiautomatic Browning shotgun I had as a kid. So could the other kids. Never happened. Why? We weren't playing violent video games and getting our reality messed up that way. We had discipline in the home and parents who taught us right from wrong. It all starts in the mind. I don't care what hardware you have available to you. Something has gone wrong where it wasn't wrong before.

    It would be interesting to see what would happen to the murder rate if we legalized drugs. When I lived in Syracuse and Rochester, New York most the shootings were over drugs or turf wars. We created those problems by making booze illegal. It got better when prohibition was repealed. But then you have the for profit prison system to feed and certain agencies like their under the table money. Wells Fargo and HSBC are more than happy to launder the money and the FBI is more than happy to turn a blind eye to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I grew up in very similar times with knives and guns everywhere... school violence consisted of fist fights. Most of which quickly degraded to pathetic wrasslin matches as nobody was very good at throwing punches to begin with.

    I believe the problem with game consoles is the immersion factor and all that simulated violence has no consequences. Most kids don't end up emulating that shit in real life... but for the weak minded and mentally unstable it's not a good environment for them to spend significant time engaged in. That's a differing factor today that wasn't present growing up in the 60's & 70's as a kid.

    Also especially in the 60's due to the civil rights movement and anti-war flareups... the US was a pretty dangerous place to live and grow up. People were making bombs and blowing up shit, killing people and even those who were supposed to be on the good side of the law were pretty brutal and violent. I recall the images and news reports from that era... it was much more violent with dire consequences than anything kids in the US have grown up with since... If you acted out inappropriately back then... society was swift, brutal and unforgiving in dishing out justice!
    I shot skeet in high school. I had a very expensive over under shotgun and didn't want to leave it in my truck. the vice principal was a family friend and so I asked if I could keep my shotgun in his office. Sure no problem. I had a case for it but after the last class I went down to the principal's office, got my shotgun and walked down the school halls with it and headed for the skeet range. Different times indeed.

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    Haha! That's exactly how those fights ended. Wrestling on the ground and good thing nobody knew how to throw a punch. Someone might actually have gotten really hurt. The girl fights were the most vicious. They would pull each other's hair and scratch each other like cats. Sounded like a cat fight too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    So basically you don't trust the idiots that you voted for and their Justice Dept.?

    The fact is that you were THREE TIMES more likely to die a violent death in Colonial and Revolutionary America than you are today....
    PROF TARDO, I believe you. I was talking to Mr Whoopee about that very issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think gaming has more to do with it than we admit. I was talking to an ex cop friend of mine and he said games and a lack of being taught right from wrong makes kids tend to be more violent. Saw an example of this yesterday. One of the kids in our neighborhood pulled a knife on his brother when a fight broke out over some popcorn. Now like I said, where I grew up everyone had a knife on them. Usually a nice lock blade. We never pulled our knifes even when we got into fist fights. You just didn't go there. Now kids go there immediately over who gets more popcorn. They really seem to be out of touch with how dangerous things like knives are. Why? They play with weapons on a game console. Something doesn't seem to register in their minds that a knife and an accident with one mind kill your brother and sure you are pissed at him at the moment but it nowhere justifies pulling a knife on him. We had knives and we had guns. I could have caused lots of carnage with my semiautomatic Browning shotgun I had as a kid. So could the other kids. Never happened. Why? We weren't playing violent video games and getting our reality messed up that way. We had discipline in the home and parents who taught us right from wrong. It all starts in the mind. I don't care what hardware you have available to you. Something has gone wrong where it wasn't wrong before.

    It would be interesting to see what would happen to the murder rate if we legalized drugs. When I lived in Syracuse and Rochester, New York most the shootings were over drugs or turf wars. We created those problems by making booze illegal. It got better when prohibition was repealed. But then you have the for profit prison system to feed and certain agencies like their under the table money. Wells Fargo and HSBC are more than happy to launder the money and the FBI is more than happy to turn a blind eye to it.
    We do in fact have a legalized drug industry, the American pharmaceutical industry which has basically got a way with exacerbating the opiod crisis by lobbying to avoid any curtail. But I do think legalization of drugs and this is one area where actual 'socialism' might work with a gov't drug distribution system that empathizes treatment and forces people to take classes to get their drugs - this is already being done with success in Portugal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    So basically you don't trust the idiots that you voted for and their Justice Dept.?

    The fact is that you were THREE TIMES more likely to die a violent death in Colonial and Revolutionary America than you are today....
    So now you're blaming the British Empire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    We do in fact have a legalized drug industry, the American pharmaceutical industry which has basically got a way with exacerbating the opiod crisis by lobbying to avoid any curtail. But I do think legalization of drugs and this is one area where actual 'socialism' might work with a gov't drug distribution system that empathizes treatment and forces people to take classes to get their drugs - this is already being done with success in Portugal...
    At the end of the day it all comes down to corruption in the government. Opiod's are a government regulated drug and as you stated all the pharmaceutical companies have to do is bribe the politicians. So even with regulation we have a big fail. Whether it's regulated capitalism or a socialist program ran out of the government it all boils down to who is regulating things. If too many people can be bought off then you are back to the same problem. Maybe it's not a drug problem but a bribery problem. The Chinese solved their opium problem by killing the users and the dealers. Maybe the only realistic way to solve things is to have a dictatorship that is anti-drug and bring the hammer down. Not that we want to go there but that might be the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    So now you're blaming the British Empire?
    Well, the root of all evil you know

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    As far as empires go the British probably ran the best one. Not squeaky clean by any means but certainly better than anything the Spanish or French were running.

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