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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    OK. But an exhaustive Washington Post story a couple of years ago estimated that as of 2013, we had more than 357 million privately owned guns across 37 percent (45 million) of U.S. households. Of these, about 8 million are AR-15 type semi-automatic rifles - the so-called "assault weapon" used by Cruz in Florida.

    Less than two weeks after the Port Arthur massacre, all six Australian states agreed to enact the same sweeping gun laws banning semi-automatic rifles and shotguns - weapons that can kill many people quickly.

    They also put more hurdles between prospective gun owners and their weapons.

    Australia has 28-day waiting periods, thorough background checks, and a requirement to present a "justifiable reason" to own a gun.

    Unlike in the US, self-protection is not accepted as a justifiable reason to own a gun.

    In the 21 years since the laws were passed, about one million semi-automatic weapons - roughly one third of the country's firearms - were sold back to the government and destroyed, nearly halving the number of gun-owning households in Australia.

    Australia has around a tenth of the population of the US so that would translate to 10 million.
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    The leader of the free world jumps into action...

    It's not even in his handwriting so someone had to give him notes on how to feel empathy with families of murdered children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    From now on try replacing the phrase 'ineffective leftist mantra' with 'every other developed country in the world'.
    It's a great point. And every other developed country in the world should offer their homes, their property, their bank accounts to those wonderful muslim immigrants.


    Be a good socialist, it doesn't cost you anything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Nick dnile, you're so deep up the rear you don't know the shit you're saying. I'm really laughing at your commie Lib thinking Prof. If you had an ounce of intelligence or a fly spec of integrity you may have come to the conclusion that may have been part of the reason I might not have wanted to head over to Iraq.
    No one should have wanted to go to Iraq by 2003, but no one should have had to go at all...

    But you're really not that smart. You really are the typical useful idiot cuckold too old to be antifa and too young to be an ex hippie.
    I'm not a hippie nor am I an anarchist, so neither was really an option. Though perhaps I might qualify as an aging Yippie. Antifa is actually pretty interesting though, at least they had the balls to go fight Isil and to stand up for participatory democracy. The one the corrupt Turk Islamist cunts are trying to eradicate...

    Don't bother trying to outgun me. jerksmear way back in 2016

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOorjOVjBoU
    I didn't see a Paul Stanley stand in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    How Florida citizens protect each other

    https://www.local10.com/news/florida...c-deputies-say

    Tamarac homeowner kills man trying to break into his car, deputies say
    Walder Saintelus had been stealing from cars in neighborhood, officials say

    TAMARAC, Fla. - A 22-year-old man trying to steal from cars in Tamarac was shot and killed early Saturday morning after a homeowner confronted him, authorities said.

    Keyla Concepcion, a spokeswoman for the Broward County Sheriff's Office, said Frank Johnston, 64, was walking his dog around 5 a.m. when he saw Walder Saintelus breaking into his neighbors' cars in the 9500 block of Northwest 82nd Street.
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    Concepcion said Johnston then went inside his home and called the police, but when Saintelus moved on to his car, Johnston confronted him.

    Johnston and Saintelus got into a fight, which ended with Johnston fatally shooting Saintelus, Concepcion said.
    And how they let them kill their children, by having no restrictions whatsoever on the sale of AR's and other assault weapons to teenage mentally ill fucktards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    It's a great point. And every other developed country in the world should offer their homes, their property, their bank accounts to those wonderful muslim immigrants.


    Be a good socialist, it doesn't cost you anything...
    If you want to talk about assisting "Muslims" in conducting terrorism, the NRA is king at that!: http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showt...RRORISTS!-!-!-!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Terry, I am actually more offended by the shooting at the plantation high school by the typical ineffective leftist mantra and ideology than anyone here would care to know.
    My tribute band played the same plantation stage where the students held their tribute.
    Prior to the show I took pictures with a bunch of families consisting of beautiful young children who only wanted a T-shirt and a guitar pick and a picture. I can only wonder if one of those kids was one of the kids was injured or killed.

    Typical assumptions made here piss me off to the 10th power.

    Tonight I'm not gonna be silent about it.
    Okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post

    Ah, knowing I participated in a Just Cause...
    A bit like saying you participated in My Lai.

    Should really have been called 'Operation Just Killing civilians for the CIA'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    A bit like saying you participated in My Lai.

    Should really have been called 'Operation Just Killing civilians for the CIA'
    That's kind of bullshit actually. Just Cause sucked and was ironically named, but it wasn't a massacre and Panama is a better place without Pineapplecuntface...

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    A bit hyperbolic but Noriega was CIA through and through. Killing over 200 civilians to remove the guy the US trained and put there in the first place would feel kind of like a massacre if you were on the receiving end.

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    Lord Jesus, bless these murderous war weapons!!


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    Little Marco! Was he drinking water and sweating while making his comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I cry discrimination on this. Why is it always the AR-15 that gets all the special treatment and attention? There are other guns out there you know.

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    If you want the NRA to go away just ignore it. Their donations go up every time they get fingered in the media. It's the best advertising ever. How you kill the NRA is making the gun owners passive believing there is no reason to belong to it. Believe me, they would spend their money somewhere else but when Bubba thinks he's going to lose his guns he gives the NRA his lap dance money.

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    More than half the NRA funding now comes from the gun industry.

    This shooting is very good news for them because gun sales were down under Trump because people stopped worrying about the government legislating on gun control. Played correctly they will be able to market to those fears again this time because of the kids saying they don't want to be shot in the face playing the role that Obama was doing previously as the bogey men.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/43202075?o...ource=facebook
    Florida school shooting: Trump says 'I would have run in unarmed'

    Funny as fuck.

    How fucking insane would you need to be to buy this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    More than half the NRA funding now comes from the gun industry.

    This shooting is very good news for them because gun sales were down under Trump because people stopped worrying about the government legislating on gun control. Played correctly they will be able to market to those fears again this time because of the kids saying they don't want to be shot in the face playing the role that Obama was doing previously as the bogey men.
    NRA donations are up and gun sales are back up. Gun sales have been down and ammo has been cheap. The reality is there never will be gun control in the US. There are over 360 million fire arms here and too many people want them. It just becomes politicized noise and maybe some feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing. More kids die from booze and drugs anyways.

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    I think one of the main reasons you won't get much change is the way the government is set up with 2 senators for each state rather than by population hugely favoring rural areas.

    if the views and needs of the 500 000 people in Wyoming are 80 times more represented than those in California that has to make a difference.

    The USA and the UK have just about the 2 craziest systems of any democracies in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    NRA donations are up and gun sales are back up. Gun sales have been down and ammo has been cheap. The reality is there never will be gun control in the US. There are over 360 million fire arms here and too many people want them. It just becomes politicized noise and maybe some feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing. More kids die from booze and drugs anyways.
    Proportionally, more kids DO die from booze and drugs.

    I wouldn't say there will never be gun control in the US. It certainly would take a sustained, grass roots effort that actually unseats elected officials who take money from the NRA or refuse to birth and bring to fruition meaningful gun legislation.

    I wouldn't bet on the chances of such a thing happening, though. Sadly, there will be a brief, loud noise about the latest shooting, then people will go back to business as usual. Unlike the NRA, which never - NEVER - lets up on its advocacy for the smallest amount of restrictions on guns as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Proportionally, more kids DO die from booze and drugs.

    I wouldn't say there will never be gun control in the US. It certainly would take a sustained, grass roots effort that actually unseats elected officials who take money from the NRA or refuse to birth and bring to fruition meaningful gun legislation.

    I wouldn't bet on the chances of such a thing happening, though. Sadly, there will be a brief, loud noise about the latest shooting, then people will go back to business as usual. Unlike the NRA, which never - NEVER - lets up on its advocacy for the smallest amount of restrictions on guns as possible.
    The language is funny if it wasn't dangerous. The socialist left is trying to incite civil insurrection.

    The socialist left says the funniest shit. Put in jerksmear perspective: Commie libs always say you can't round up 25 million illegals but it's necessary to round up 350 million firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Proportionally, more kids DO die from booze and drugs.

    I wouldn't say there will never be gun control in the US. It certainly would take a sustained, grass roots effort that actually unseats elected officials who take money from the NRA or refuse to birth and bring to fruition meaningful gun legislation.

    I wouldn't bet on the chances of such a thing happening, though. Sadly, there will be a brief, loud noise about the latest shooting, then people will go back to business as usual. Unlike the NRA, which never - NEVER - lets up on its advocacy for the smallest amount of restrictions on guns as possible.
    Nobody ever talks about a realistic solution. It always turns into a politicized argument which never ends in anything productive. How about putting metal detectors in the schools? To be honest. I think the media heads and politicians that stir the shit don't give a rat's ass about those kids in school. They have an agenda to sell and both the left and right are guilty. It's about power and exploiting every opportunity to divide the public and steer them a certain way. It's why if there is a shooting I don't even follow it anymore more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The language is funny if it wasn't dangerous. The socialist left is trying to incite civil insurrection.

    The socialist left says the funniest shit. Put in jerksmear perspective: Commie libs always say you can't round up 25 million illegals but it's necessary to round up 350 million firearms.
    Nobody is going to round up 350 million firearms. Who's going to actually do that job? You couldn't pay anyone sane to do it. Sure a politician or some academic might dream about it or even cook up a plan but someone has to actually in the real world come and get them. There lies the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I think one of the main reasons you won't get much change is the way the government is set up with 2 senators for each state rather than by population hugely favoring rural areas.

    if the views and needs of the 500 000 people in Wyoming are [b]80 times[/b} more represented than those in California that has to make a difference.

    The USA and the UK have just about the 2 craziest systems of any democracies in the world.
    The US is a constitutional republic and not a democracy. Each state has an equal vote in the senate with two senators but the representatives in the house are based on population. So California has more congressmen than Wyoming. If you go with just population all the political power goes to the big cities where they might not understand or deal with some issues that are important in the more rural areas. So it was laid out to be a compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/43202075?o...ource=facebook



    Funny as fuck.

    How fucking insane would you need to be to buy this one?
    Yeah right. Trump has had a carry permit in NYC for years. Those are super hard to get and just because he feels the need to have one really doesn't jive with the fact he would run in unarmed. I guess Trump spent some time at the dojo and has honed super ninja fighting skills where he can dodge the bullets and disarm the gun carrying thug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The language is funny if it wasn't dangerous. The socialist left is trying to incite civil insurrection.

    The socialist left says the funniest shit. Put in jerksmear perspective: Commie libs always say you can't round up 25 million illegals but it's necessary to round up 350 million firearms.
    No, the 'socialist left' think you're an absurd alcoholic with all those guns...

    Not sure whomever said "round up all those guns". Examples? Drunken strawman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Nobody ever talks about a realistic solution. It always turns into a politicized argument which never ends in anything productive. How about putting metal detectors in the schools? To be honest. I think the media heads and politicians that stir the shit don't give a rat's ass about those kids in school. They have an agenda to sell and both the left and right are guilty. It's about power and exploiting every opportunity to divide the public and steer them a certain way. It's why if there is a shooting I don't even follow it anymore more.
    A metal detector? Realistic? I don't think school shooter mass murders are exactly smuggling their guns in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No, the 'socialist left' think you're an absurd alcoholic with all those guns...

    Not sure whomever said "round up all those guns". Examples? Drunken strawman...
    NDnile,

    http://www.ri.gov/press/view/32584

    "Red Flag legislation is a way to stop tragedies before they happen. Of course someone who has guns and is making serious threats to harm people with them should not be armed," said Senate Majority Whip Maryellen Goodwin, who is sponsoring red flag legislation in the Senate. "Too often, after a mass shooting we learn about all the warning signs people saw from the shooter and wonder why they still had guns. But the truth is, there isn't always a legal means to stop them. These actions will provide a speedy but fair process to ensure that those who pose a legitimate risk do not remain armed."

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    https://www.pressherald.com/2018/02/...n-disarmament/

    Maine Voices: It’s time for a gun abolition movement

    We need to stand up to the NRA and push for what is so desperately needed: a complete ban on firearms.


    Abolishing guns will profoundly alter the American way of life for the better, just like women’s suffrage did. Is gun abolition too extreme? Not if human life comes first.

    Many great political victories aim for what initially seems like an impossible objective. Opponents of slavery didn’t advocate “slave control.” They were abolitionists. Gandhi did not campaign to control the British – he sought Indian independence from a starting point that looked hopeless. Nevertheless, in both cases, proponents succeeded while stating their objectives in uncompromising terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Yeah right. Trump has had a carry permit in NYC for years. Those are super hard to get and just because he feels the need to have one really doesn't jive with the fact he would run in unarmed. I guess Trump spent some time at the dojo and has honed super ninja fighting skills where he can dodge the bullets and disarm the gun carrying thug.
    Armed or unarmed you would think his 'bone spurs' might stop him, that or the fact he is a sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    NDnile,

    http://www.ri.gov/press/view/32584

    "Red Flag legislation is a way to stop tragedies before they happen. Of course someone who has guns and is making serious threats to harm people with them should not be armed," said Senate Majority Whip Maryellen Goodwin, who is sponsoring red flag legislation in the Senate. "Too often, after a mass shooting we learn about all the warning signs people saw from the shooter and wonder why they still had guns. But the truth is, there isn't always a legal means to stop them. These actions will provide a speedy but fair process to ensure that those who pose a legitimate risk do not remain armed."

    Sincerely,
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    PS:

    https://www.pressherald.com/2018/02/...n-disarmament/

    Maine Voices: It’s time for a gun abolition movement

    We need to stand up to the NRA and push for what is so desperately needed: a complete ban on firearms.


    Abolishing guns will profoundly alter the American way of life for the better, just like women’s suffrage did. Is gun abolition too extreme? Not if human life comes first.

    Many great political victories aim for what initially seems like an impossible objective. Opponents of slavery didn’t advocate “slave control.” They were abolitionists. Gandhi did not campaign to control the British – he sought Indian independence from a starting point that looked hopeless. Nevertheless, in both cases, proponents succeeded while stating their objectives in uncompromising terms.
    The Governor of Rhode Island is the best you can come up with?

    More lame shit. However I saw something about a gun carrying Republican that does want to ban assault rifles...

    Personally I don't necessarily, but they should have a Class 4 equivalent with universal registration and other restrictions that we placed on automatic weapons fucking 50 years ago!

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    Coming soon - the tweet where Trump says 'Nobody saw that coming'. Again.

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dalt...call/708623182

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    The language is funny if it wasn't dangerous. The socialist left is trying to incite civil insurrection.

    The socialist left says the funniest shit. Put in jerksmear perspective: Commie libs always say you can't round up 25 million illegals but it's necessary to round up 350 million firearms.
    I'd hardly characterize a sustained, grass roots effort to enact meaningful gun legislation as an incitement of civil insurrection, nor would I define meaningful in this context as being the rounding up of every firearm in the country.

    Would we be better off as a species if firearms, military weaponry and the like were banished? Without a doubt. Probably not going to happen.

    Realistically, I wouldn't think background checks, raising the age of purchase, banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons and the like would be upsetting to responsible gun owners. In point of fact, it's heartening to hear how many responsible gun owners support such measures.

    These measures won't provide a 100% guarantee mass shooting sprees won't happen, but it's far more sensible than taking a defeatist attitude and accepting mass shootings as the price of living in America.

    As to the rest, I'm totally for enforcing immigration policies. I don't have a problem with our borders being secured, and part of that means fortifying parts of our southern border walls/fences that are deficient. Controlling who gets to come into the country to stay and live, along with points of entry, is part of being a country. I don't have a problem with immigration laws being rigorously enforced, either.

    Am unsure as to what immigration and gun laws have to do with one another, other both than being wedge issues.
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