F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32798

    #16
    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Oh Jesus Christ! They DID JUST RAID TRUMPS CLEANING LADY FFS! What do you think this roach Cohen is?
    It's a waste of time. Look it's so obvious. Get Trump on Russian collusion. That narrative failed. Now they are chasing this porn star narrative. It's a fucking joke. Trump should have fired Mueller and he still can fire him. The only thing that is going to take Trump down is if he starts to fail to serve the people who voted him for office. Getting us stuck in Syria is a bigger liability to Trump than anything Mueller is doing. Plus there is confidentiality between a lawyer and their clients. That's the law.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #17
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      If you don't use paragraphs people won't read all of what you write.

      A few things - Mueller is a Republican. The porn 'star' is a Republican and at least at one point a Trump supporting one.

      The detailed analysis of the election shows that without the Comey letter the week before the election, Trump wouldn't be president. How does that fit with the pro status quo, deep state agenda?


      You're like a football fan screaming the referee is a cheat when a decision goes against your team, forgetting all the ones that went against the other side earlier in the game.

      Anyone with even passing knowledge of Trump's career knows that there will be a mountain of skeletons in his closet way beyond most of the usual politician shit.

      Personally my main concern is the present not his past crimes and certainly not who he has fucked. My worry and so should yours be is that someone with his personality and lack of abilities is in a position to destroy the world. Your system and the GOP in particular is so far gone now I find it difficult to imagine what scandal would be needed for a senate to ever impeach him in any case.

      In the same way I couldn't give less of a fuck about Clinton whataboutery. You talk about Russian collusion and the narrative failing, it's not a narrative it's an investigation which hasn't finished and hasn't reported yet.
      Investigation. Haha! It's called trying to get Trump out of office. So what you are saying is Trump is going to destroy the world so we need to use any means necessary to get rid of him even if he was elected. Ok. Who do you replace him with? Name a name. I will save my laughter for later.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        #18
        Really Trump deserves the Mueller bullshit because he didn't clean house. He should have fired Mueller along with others. Trump tried to play nice. Tried to get along. Well you don't get along in a pit of vipers. As far as the Republicans and Democrats go, they almost aren't relative anymore. Two cheeks on the same butt. Why Trump got elected is he really was neither. He's an independent. He just had to ride the Republican elephant into office but the Republican establishment hates him.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Terry
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11957

          #19
          The Mueller investigation isn't representative of a Nazi-type "witch hunt" to my mind.

          Let's not forget why the Mueller investigation started in the first place. Had Trump not had so many people working on his campaign who had connections and multiple conversations with senior Russian intelligence officials during the 2016 campaign (and after the election lied about those connections and conversations) while Russia was trying to influence the outcome of that election in Trump's favor, and had Trump not fired Comey and then went on to state that firing Comey relieved pressure Trump was feeling over the Russia investigation, Trump wouldn't be in the predicament he is in today.

          Mueller isn't some "deep state" operative.

          As to Cohen, doubtless the ultimate aim of Mueller is to try and squeeze Cohen via passing along what he had learned about Cohen to the federal prosecutors in New York for additional information by using any and all legal means at his disposal. Unlike Trump, Mueller isn't treating his job like a reality tv show and tweeting viewers asking them to stay tuned to see what happens next.

          If Trump broke the law or if Trump is unfit to discharge the duties of his office and there is sufficient cause for his removal, I hope he is removed. I don't want Trump removed on flimsy pretexts just because I didn't like the election result. Thus far, Trump hasn't destroyed the world, and as for his ability to destroy the world...as a species we have (insanely, to my mind) accepted nuclear weapons as part of our lives for more than half a century. Accepted them in as much as we haven't made serious global mobilization efforts to remove them from our lives. Should Trump be the one who ends up pushing the button and killing us all, it will be the end result of a group psychosis that prompted us to a) build the fucking things in the first place and b) allow deployment of them to be concentrated in that of a single elected official.
          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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          • Terry
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 11957

            #20
            Originally posted by Nitro Express
            Investigation. Haha! It's called trying to get Trump out of office. So what you are saying is Trump is going to destroy the world so we need to use any means necessary to get rid of him even if he was elected. Ok. Who do you replace him with? Name a name. I will save my laughter for later.
            I'd agree to the extent that removing Trump doesn't remove the threat of global destruction via nuclear weapons.
            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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            • Terry
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 11957

              #21
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Really Trump deserves the Mueller bullshit because he didn't clean house. He should have fired Mueller along with others. Trump tried to play nice. Tried to get along. Well you don't get along in a pit of vipers. As far as the Republicans and Democrats go, they almost aren't relative anymore. Two cheeks on the same butt. Why Trump got elected is he really was neither. He's an independent. He just had to ride the Republican elephant into office but the Republican establishment hates him.
              Yeah, but clean house and replace them with who? Who else but 2nd and 3rd rate hacks and hambones would go to work for Trump to begin with?

              Trump couldn't even rely on the hacks and hambones he had on his team initially to not fuck up.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35192

                #22
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                Investigation. Haha! It's called trying to get Trump out of office. So what you are saying is Trump is going to destroy the world so we need to use any means necessary to get rid of him even if he was elected. Ok. Who do you replace him with? Name a name. I will save my laughter for later.
                I didn't say that, I don't want him in power because he's an egotistical clueless moron. Name a name I would prefer? You. Probably around 85% of the US population.

                There isn't a move to replace him because of his policies in fact his policies are the thing the Republicans like and will keep him in power.

                There is a possible attack on him coming from law enforcement because he is a corrupt liar who isn't smart enough to keep his head down.

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35192

                  #23
                  It's not a fucking 'witch hunt' if there actually are a bunch of witches.

                  witch-hunt
                  Word forms: plural witch-hunts
                  countable noun
                  A witch-hunt is an attempt to find and punish a particular group of people who are being blamed for something, often simply because of their opinions and not because they have actually done anything wrong.
                  The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe
                  1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

                  2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.


                  3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

                  4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But he has now agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

                  5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

                  21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

                  22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49204

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    Really Trump deserves the Mueller bullshit because he didn't clean house. He should have fired Mueller along with others. Trump tried to play nice. Tried to get along. Well you don't get along in a pit of vipers. As far as the Republicans and Democrats go, they almost aren't relative anymore. Two cheeks on the same butt. Why Trump got elected is he really was neither. He's an independent. He just had to ride the Republican elephant into office but the Republican establishment hates him.
                    Are you really this fucking stupid or just a Russian bot? Google "Saturday Night Purge" you automaton dipshit!

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49204

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      It's not a fucking 'witch hunt' if there actually are a bunch of witches.



                      The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe
                      1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

                      2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.


                      3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

                      4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But he has now agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

                      5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

                      21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

                      22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
                      So eloquent yet so wasting you're time...
                      Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-11-2018, 01:11 AM.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49204

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        It's a waste of time. Look it's so obvious. Get Trump on Russian collusion. That narrative failed. Now they are chasing this porn star narrative. It's a fucking joke. Trump should have fired Mueller and he still can fire him. The only thing that is going to take Trump down is if he starts to fail to serve the people who voted him for office. Getting us stuck in Syria is a bigger liability to Trump than anything Mueller is doing. Plus there is confidentiality between a lawyer and their clients. That's the law.
                        Trump "failed" the people (unwashed masses mainly) the minute he took office with his corporate whore tax cut, and anti-labor policies propagated by the ignorance of his elitist shiteheaded cabinet members he appointed (before firing them)...

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49204

                          #27

                          The source said investigators were looking into whether there was a broader pattern of tax fraud, wire fraud, tax evasion, money laundering and other crimes in Cohen’s private dealings, including his work for Trump and some real estate transactions that involved Russian buyers and prices that appeared to be well above market values.

                          The source confirmed the FBI was looking into the payments, including the Enquirer link, but they were "not the main focus of that part of the investigation."
                          From: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-res...143514582.html

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                          • Kristy
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 16338

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            It's a waste of time. Look it's so obvious. Get Trump on Russian collusion. That narrative failed. Now they are chasing this porn star narrative. It's a fucking joke. Trump should have fired Mueller and he still can fire him. The only thing that is going to take Trump down is if he starts to fail to serve the people who voted him for office. Getting us stuck in Syria is a bigger liability to Trump than anything Mueller is doing. Plus there is confidentiality between a lawyer and their clients. That's the law.
                            Yeah, you tell these fucking liberals, Tucker!

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58783

                              #29
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32798

                                #30
                                There is such a thing called attorney client privilege. It's illegal to raid the attorney's office of someone who is under investigation. That's one thing. Also what happened to Russian collusion and election tampering? That was what the investigation was about. Now it's about porn stars. You can't make this shit up.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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