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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35192

    #46
    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    This is the reality. If you were a classmate of Wolfgang growing up and you went over to his house and he started playing the drums and maybe playing a little guitar you would go cool! Damn. Wolfy is pretty good at that stuff. That's about it. Talent? Sure. In a at home kind of jamming way. He has some musical talent. I'm not denying that but what's there to sell. What's there to WOW! an audience? Nothing. Wolfie is local talent show level and his dad was one of a kind. I hope Valerie and Eddie realize their son is not going to make a living as a music performer. Hopefully they have a decent trust set up for him. Wolfgang has the benefit of being an only child and doesn't have anyone to fight with except maybe his parent's current spouses. Get a good lawyer as insurance Wolf. You dad has lived hard. Chances of him living to an old age aren't very good. I'm amazed he's still alive.
    Without inheriting anything I think Wolf could retire on the money he made from the two tours already. Not private jet retire but comfortable enough.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #47
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      Without inheriting anything I think Wolf could retire on the money he made from the two tours already. Not private jet retire but comfortable enough.
      You never know until you look at the books. Johnny Depp blew a $800 million wad. People assume he's rich. He still has a line of credit because he still has leaches working for him.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • ZahZoo
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 8970

        #48
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        Without inheriting anything I think Wolf could retire on the money he made from the two tours already. Not private jet retire but comfortable enough.
        If Wolf could get any priceless mentoring from the original Bass Player™ it would be investment advice from Michael Anthony...

        Wouldn't hurt either if he learned a bit about MA's clean sound and timing synchronization with Uncle Al too...
        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35192

          #49
          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          You never know until you look at the books. Johnny Depp blew a $800 million wad. People assume he's rich. He still has a line of credit because he still has leaches working for him.
          Really?

          Boris Becker’s spending has been pretty spectacular too.

          Wolfgang really doesn’t strike me as being that interesting though...

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32798

            #50
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            Really?

            Boris Becker’s spending has been pretty spectacular too.

            Wolfgang really doesn’t strike me as being that interesting though...
            Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck regardless of what income level they are at. Most Americans have little savings. So if mom and dad are spending the money, that leaves little for the children in a trust. There's not the transferable wealth people think there is but people look rich because they have wasted all their money on the stuff that makes them look good. I used to work in the finance industry and saw lot's of examples of it. There is little owner's equity and most the assets are liabilities.

            Wolfang is about as interesting as the people who pick up your trash. In fact. Those people might be even more interesting.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32798

              #51
              Originally posted by ZahZoo
              If Wolf could get any priceless mentoring from the original Bass Player™ it would be investment advice from Michael Anthony...

              Wouldn't hurt either if he learned a bit about MA's clean sound and timing synchronization with Uncle Al too...
              Haha! Mike is fuck em all. He downsized to a smaller home closer to the beach. Still has enough fast cars to have lot's of fun until he kicks the bucket. He's slowed down on his Jack Daniel's consumption to last a few more years.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Terry
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 11957

                #52
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                Get a grip on yourself man. Don't get too excited about riding Sammy's hairy ass.
                Ohboy ohboy ohboy!!!

                If he doesn't play Two Sides Of Love, I'll just...die!!!!

                Just thinking about it makes me feel like Marcia in that Brady Bunch episode where she tries to get Davey Jones to sing at her school dance.
                Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                • Terry
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11957

                  #53
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo
                  I agree with not enjoying the record from a sonic perspective... the only mix I enjoy is the vinyl version. It's only helped by the limitations of the vinyl itself. But my ears prefer those limitations because the sonic range breathes much more.

                  Here's a good article on the mixing of ADKOT... the 3rd to last entry details the technical aspects of what they aimed for in the final mix targeting CD's, MP3's and fucking ear buds. SMH... fucking ear buds!! Translating it down to those mediums fucked up the end result immensely... This is where the great Van Halen sound went to die in my professional assessment...

                  http://www.vhnd.com/2012/07/15/ross-...kind-of-truth/
                  That article actually makes the way the product was mixed make more sense to me, as the only time I could really get it to sound halfway decent at a loud volume was to put the CD into my boom box and listen to it with headphones or put the cd into my hard drive and listen to it with headphones: my attempts at playing it loud without headphones always resulted in a mid-range mush just the louder I turned it up.

                  When the album first came out and I was listening to it frequently, I was always wondering why it was mixed the way it was...as in, why the hell was it mixed that way.
                  Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                  • DavidLeeNatra
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10714

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Terry
                    That article actually makes the way the product was mixed make more sense to me, as the only time I could really get it to sound halfway decent at a loud volume was to put the CD into my boom box and listen to it with headphones or put the cd into my hard drive and listen to it with headphones: my attempts at playing it loud without headphones always resulted in a mid-range mush just the louder I turned it up.

                    When the album first came out and I was listening to it frequently, I was always wondering why it was mixed the way it was...as in, why the hell was it mixed that way.
                    Because fucking everything nowadays is mixed that way. If it's music or movies. If you watch "old" music on proTools it looks like mountains and a forrest. Now it looks like a fucking sausage. Normalized crap for iPhones and shitty headphones.

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                    First official owner of ADKOT (Deluxe Version)

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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11957

                      #55
                      Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
                      Because fucking everything nowadays is mixed that way. If it's music or movies. If you watch "old" music on proTools it looks like mountains and a forrest. Now it looks like a fucking sausage. Normalized crap for iPhones and shitty headphones.

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                      Sadly, you are correct.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • chuckjitsu
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 321

                        #56
                        A CVH tour with Wolf opening won't happen for the same reason nothing happens with these guys: it makes too much fucking sense. Vh rides off in to the sunset with the original lineup and Ed gets to hang out with his kid while touring. Works for me. New album with Mike? Yeah, the odds of that are even less than a tour with Mike, imo.

                        If the tour was to happen, I'd hope Dave would see it for what it is and step up his game like he did in 07-08. He coasted through the last couple of tours, with obvious results.

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                        • chuckjitsu
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 321

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          I agree with this and it takes me back to a thread I started here a long time ago and was reminded of when reading Monk's book. He basically stated what I thought, that Van Halen was burned out by the constant touring by the end of 1981 and needed a break and some vacations that might temper the constant drug and alcohol use indicative to a young band on the road in their era. But of course "(Oh) Pretty Woman" changed that and Warner pushed for more and yet more constant recording and unbroken touring took place until everything was untenable. Although, perhaps a breakup was inevitable in any case IDK. It does seem that Ed wanted to stand back a bit and slow down but lost any ability to collaborate in this period with the building of 5150 coinciding with Alex Van Halen consolidating his power as the (alcoholic) leader of the band and pushing Roth out...



                          The problem is process, as in there isn't any. The six pack featured creative input from nearly everyone and Roth was able to give Eddie much needed feedback on what was good and on what sucked. As Monk stated, despite all his problems with Roth being a "sociopath" narcissist, he "knew what the people wanted" whereas Ed was becoming entranced with less pop and a more artistic approach that brought Fairwarning, perhaps their best (but least commercially successful) album, one that required payola to reach platinum sales. Ed basically turned his back on a winning formula and gradually became the king of his hermit kingdom at 5150. That's why AKOT sort of sucks in my opinion, it was done by phone-in. That's now how real bands work...
                          It's ironic to me that band "breaks" were flash points in the departure of both Roth and Hagar. After reading Monk's account (among others) of Roth's departure and Sam interviews about his split, it sure seems like the VH brothers had a different interpretation of what a break was- either literally doing nothing, or something they approved of. In Roth's case, that became him being an asshole who ditched VH at their peak to become a movie star. In Sam's case, he was an asshole who wasn't a team player because he didn't want to leave his pregnant wife to work on the Twister soundtrack, then got manipulated in to doing exactly that.

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