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    The Polls Up Trump's Ass

    Poll by sinking poll, Trump inches toward impeachment



    By Megan McArdle
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    August 31 at 5:36 PM
    By any metric, Trump is in trouble.

    A poll out from The Post and ABC on Friday shows that 60 percent of voters disapprove of the job he’s doing as president, a new low. But that’s just one poll; the polling average at statistician Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight shows Trump with a mere 53.4 percent disapproval rating, which is better than its 56.8 percent peak last December.

    But a presidency is not in good shape when the best spin on the new poll is “It’s an outlier! Only 53 percent of the country thinks the president is terrible.” The poll is especially ugly for Republicans with midterms looming in two months.

    FiveThirtyEight’s forecast for the midterms puts the likelihood of Democrats taking the House at more than 70 percent. Their chances of taking the Senate are lower, but Republicans are hardly a lock despite a very favorable map for them. And if Democrats manage to eke out a majority in both houses of Congress, here is the poll’s really bad news for Trump: Half the country wants him impeached.

    To put that in perspective: In January 1974, well into the Watergate scandal, Richard Nixon’s poll numbers on impeachment were better than President Trump’s are now. Earlier, less disastrous polls for Trump still showed him veering dangerously close to what we might call “the Nixon ceiling.”

    Most worrying for Trump is that three-quarters of Democrats say they want Congress to impeach him. If Democrats gain control, they will be under immense pressure from their base to deliver.

    That doesn’t mean they’ll do it. It takes a two-thirds supermajority in the Senate to actually remove a president from office. The best that Democrats can possibly manage in 2018 is a narrow majority; they would need more than a handful of Republican senators to support removal. The leaders of a Democrat-controlled House might well decide they’d rather not force their Senate brethren to take a hard and futile vote.

    But as Republicans found in the 1990s, these things have a way of taking on unexpected momentum. A former Republican congressional staffer who was close to that process tells me that the day after the bruising 1998 midterms, Newt Gingrich — who would shortly step down as House speaker — said, “impeachment is over, that’s one thing the election clearly meant.” Five weeks later, with Gingrich out of the way, House Republicans impeached Bill Clinton. Then he was acquitted by the Republican-controlled Senate.

    “The activist base of the party was committed to the idea, and that made it impossible for the elected officials to change course,” the former staffer says, “even though they knew impeachment wasn’t what the broader public wanted.”

    It’s all too easy to imagine a similar scenario for Democrats intent on impeaching Trump as they come up short looking for Republicans to help them make it across the finish line. But it’s not entirely impossible to picture a few Republicans going along. If Democrats do manage to start impeachment hearings, it would be because — unlike Republicans in 1998 — they’d be coming off a huge midterm win. Public support for impeaching Trump, even taking into account his more favorable polls, would be higher than it ever was for impeaching Clinton.

    Trump is in a very unusual situation for an American president. Members of his die-hard base are loyal, but at his peak they were barely a plurality of the party. The rest of his support is purely expedient, interested in getting judges appointed and keeping Democrats out of power. Republicans in Congress are loyal, for now, but only because they’re afraid of his voters.

    But by the time Trump faced a Senate trial, that would mean the political calculus had shifted radically. He would have cost them the Congress; there would be no hope of more judges; the 2020 election would seem already lost. And he’d have no reservoir of goodwill in the party, for at every turn he has made a point of attacking and humiliating any Republican he deemed insufficiently obsequious. Just how long will the Coalition of the Unwilling stand by a president who was never really their man?

    But even if Republicans hold the party line, what Trump faces in this scenario is bad enough: a public trial that he can’t avoid by firing the investigators, nor distract from with more Twitter blasts. One senses that public humiliation, especially at the hands of an establishment that has always looked down on him, is the thing that Trump fears most. Though far from certain, that humiliation is growing more likely.

    Yes, the president is clearly in trouble. But does Trump, hunkered down with deferential staffers and screens blaring Fox News, realize it? Or might he learn it only when Congress calls him to account — and he finds no one standing behind him?

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    Sure, but what are Hillary's current poll numbers?

    Is anyone looking into her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yes, the president is clearly in trouble. But does Trump, hunkered down with deferential staffers and screens blaring Fox News, realize it? Or might he learn it only when Congress calls him to account — and he finds no one standing behind him?
    This is the thing that usually fucks these personalities up, if you surround yourself with sycophants it massively weakens you.

    Trumps biggest weakness is that he doesn't have any actual friends to tell him when he is fucking up.

    I still think he will make it to at least 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Sure, but what are Hillary's current poll numbers?

    Is anyone looking into her?
    Not if they want to win the next election.

    Same thing with Biden. He's the only one who has lost more Presidential elections than Hillary. (At least on the so-called "Democratic" side. I think Man-on-dog Santorum and Sarah Huckabee's dad are still ahead of both of them in Republican primaries)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is the thing that usually fucks these personalities up, if you surround yourself with sycophants it massively weakens you.

    Trumps biggest weakness is that he doesn't have any actual friends to tell him when he is fucking up.

    I still think he will make it to at least 2020.
    Trump is fine as long as the economy holds. Most of the noise you hear is partisan banter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is the thing that usually fucks these personalities up, if you surround yourself with sycophants it massively weakens you.

    Trumps biggest weakness is that he doesn't have any actual friends to tell him when he is fucking up.

    I still think he will make it to at least 2020.
    He did. Howard Stern told him not to run. He had a great life and Stern also implied that Trump's life as a scofflaw would haunt him if he won. Stern voted for Clinton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Trump is fine as long as the economy holds. Most of the noise you hear is partisan banter.
    He's not going to be fine with a Democratic Congress that actually investigates and actually does its job as a watchdog and check on his power. Those around him are terrified that he's not at all prepared for this and might collapse even before any impeachment proceedings are undertaken once Mueller's stuff starts coming out in earnest...

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    The whole impeachment premise is hinged on Democrats significantly retaking a majority in the House and squeaking a tiny majority in the Senate. Neither of those scenarios are looking all that likely today... possible, but nothing indicating a sure thing. Putting much faith in today's electoral polling isn't a very useful or wise prospect.

    Then there's one other pesky thing standing in the way of impeachment of Trump... verifiable evidence that an impeachable offence has been committed by the President.

    After a year and half of investigations... does anyone seriously think there's really some valid evidence of a chargeable crime still hiding in the weeds..?
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    "Neither of those?" The Democrats are taking the House, the Senate maybe not so much but its still undecided. The real problem for Trump as I stated is that the Democratic Congress will be pushing him and regulating everything he does, and that's more so the worry of his staff because Trump is a retard when it comes down to it and is totally unprepared to deal with a hostile Congress...

    But while the Republicans have been ballless, eunuch Trump-blowjob-givers up to this point, declining poll numbers and revelations from the Mueller probe may force their hands at some point as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    He's not going to be fine with a Democratic Congress that actually investigates and actually does its job as a watchdog and check on his power. Those around him are terrified that he's not at all prepared for this and might collapse even before any impeachment proceedings are undertaken once Mueller's stuff starts coming out in earnest...
    Trumps approval rating has been hovering around 43% for the last six months. I've been hearing how the guy is going to go down since the day he announced his presidency. How do you know how the people around him feel? You don't work with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The whole impeachment premise is hinged on Democrats significantly retaking a majority in the House and squeaking a tiny majority in the Senate. Neither of those scenarios are looking all that likely today... possible, but nothing indicating a sure thing. Putting much faith in today's electoral polling isn't a very useful or wise prospect.

    Then there's one other pesky thing standing in the way of impeachment of Trump... verifiable evidence that an impeachable offence has been committed by the President.

    After a year and half of investigations... does anyone seriously think there's really some valid evidence of a chargeable crime still hiding in the weeds..?
    As far a polling goes you have to look at the aggregates. The ABC poll had a very small sample. It's all sampling and getting that right is a science in itself. It's not easy getting good polling data and you can't have any political bias and good luck there. We basically have two parallel universes. We are going to have a blue wave if you are a Democrat and we are going to have a red wave if you are a Republican. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The Dems made one huge mistake. The Democrats support open borders and even in California only about 20% of the population support an open border. That's a vote killer right there. The border stance of the Democrats is going to be like a lead weight around their ankles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This is the thing that usually fucks these personalities up, if you surround yourself with sycophants it massively weakens you.

    Trumps biggest weakness is that he doesn't have any actual friends to tell him when he is fucking up.

    I still think he will make it to at least 2020.
    I tend to think Trump will make it at least to 2020 as well, and may well win a 2nd term.

    I agree with Nitro Express that most of what you hear, at least from my experience, isn't what you're hearing day to day on the ground. Outside of the cable news cycles, the NYT editorials and the deep blue states, the Alex Jones meltdowns and all the rest of it, everyone else is going on with their lives.

    Has Trump demonstrated the capacity as president to continue in the same cruel, careless ways he always has? Yep. Am I hearing about it from anybody I know who doesn't live in New England, the West Coast or states that wouldn't vote for Trump anyway? Nope. I'm not even hearing anything - at all - about Trump from people I know in this state who voted for him. Nothing by way of regret, defiance, or whatnot.

    Trump being who he is, doubtless there are plenty of ways he can fuck things up between now and 2020. As to if he will fuck up the applicable things in the applicable way that will cause his removal via rejection at the ballot box, I'd be wary of anybody who claimed with certainty this will happen.

    I tend to doubt Trump trusts or values ANYBODY'S council on a level equal with - much less above - his own. So the notion that it's the lack of truthtellers around him that will do him in...what good is telling the truth to Trump going to do? The man deludes himself and lies daily in the face of all reason, fact and logic. And look where it has got him: the White House. Why would he start doubting his instincts now?

    Let's say Mueller DOES come up with the goods on Trump. Then what? The law has to be enforced. Who is going to do it? Yeah, yeah, there is a multi (multi, multi, MULTI, multi) step process for impeachment. It isn't a quick one. It'd be hard to see Trump voluntarily stepping down out of a sense of shame. Only if he realizes it is futile to stay. As long as he can go into his safe states and pack 10-20,000 into a rally, he's not going to go anywhere. I tend to doubt even the threat of his son being convicted would hasten his departure: Trump can just pardon him. Trump can pardon everyone, pardon himself, shrug his shoulders and go about his business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Trumps approval rating has been hovering around 43% for the last six months.
    Which polls? Rasmussen? LOL. the last poll taken was suspiciously) right before the Manafort trial and Cohen stories. Or at least before the public had noticed...

    I've been hearing how the guy is going to go down since the day he announced his presidency. How do you know how the people around him feel? You don't work with him.
    It's called reporters and their sources, many of which have been dead on. Nobody works with him for more than a few months. Unless he can't fire them without a complete disaster such as Kelly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    As far a polling goes you have to look at the aggregates. The ABC poll had a very small sample. It's all sampling and getting that right is a science in itself. It's not easy getting good polling data and you can't have any political bias and good luck there. We basically have two parallel universes. We are going to have a blue wave if you are a Democrat and we are going to have a red wave if you are a Republican. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The Dems made one huge mistake. The Democrats support open borders and even in California only about 20% of the population support an open border. That's a vote killer right there. The border stance of the Democrats is going to be like a lead weight around their ankles.

    Oh Christ, the Poll expert! If Trump doesn't believe he's in trouble, then why is he: pleading you can't fire a guy who's doing a good job? Devolving into legally ill advised twatter meltdowns?

    How do "Dems favor open borders?" Obama was one of the biggest deporters in history. Illegal immigration is historically way down overall and is just a jerkoff issue of old white trash. Not favoring concentration and rape camps for immigrant children doesn't mean anyone supports "open borders". Don't let facts stop you from your strawman arguments...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Trumps approval rating has been hovering around 43% for the last six months. I've been hearing how the guy is going to go down since the day he announced his presidency. How do you know how the people around him feel? You don't work with him.
    Jesus fuck, aren't you the Nazi apologist? What polls are yo looking at? You give no links so I'm guessing (as usual) it more of the same shit you've been puling out of your ass for years. No one give a shit about how his sycophants feel. They are criminals. looters, cheaters, and Russian bought off lackeys. You fucking F A T 80's Rethuglicons with your white maleness and Regan-era nostalgia still believe that joke of a party is the same as its always been. Now with McCain gone, you stupid fucks are going to know the true meaning of fascism and its not going to pretty - especially for you white trash morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The whole impeachment premise is hinged on Democrats significantly retaking a majority in the House and squeaking a tiny majority in the Senate.
    Says who? It's more than likely they will take the House and gain seats in the Senate which should send Trump and all you white male Nazis running to the courts, the Russian-bought media and and other fringe site to air your grievances that if America can't have (white) fascism there should be no America at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Neither of those scenarios are looking all that likely today... possible, but nothing indicating a sure thing.
    Interesting how your male whiteness contradicts itself in the same god damn sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Putting much faith in today's electoral polling isn't a very useful or wise prospect.
    No one "prospects" the polls, they exist for talking heads and news bites to fill in the gaps for their Russian propaganda cohorts. You seriously need to wake the fuck up of what the F A T Orange Blunder and his cocksucking fascist butt buddies are about to do to this country; quit living in the god damn past.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Then there's one other pesky thing standing in the way of impeachment of Trump... verifiable evidence that an impeachable offense has been committed by the President.

    After a year and half of investigations... does anyone seriously think there's really some valid evidence of a chargeable crime still hiding in the weeds..?
    Yes, I do. I know it pains you F A T white fascists but the F A T Orange Blunder's crimes are vast and wide. Whether or not this investigation brings out what every liberal wants to hear remains to speculation but seeing how those closest to him are going to prison you know your beloved Fuhrer is not far off. So are you just that stupid or blind? Or both?
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    Kristy... go read the articles of impeachment. What qualifies as actionable and what the process and number of super majority votes are required to enact it. Even if the Democrats pull a small shift in enough House seats to tip the majority... nothing significant all of a sudden magically changes that will enable the Congress to run Trump out of office.

    There has to be credible evidence of a crime committed by the President, which does not exist today. There has to be a trial in the House, which can not occur until the first criteria has been met. Only after the House finds the President guilty... then a super majority vote is required in the Senate to remove him from office.

    The 2018 mid-terms won't produce anything to support this nor fabricate evidence to enable Congress to move forward with impeachment... Doesn't matter which side anyone sits you'd have be delusional this think this election is a huge game changer in any significant way.

    As complex and crazy our 3 branch system of government is... it's working as designed in preventing wild swings in governing and forcing broad consensus to make sweeping changes.

    What the hell does me being white or male have to do with any of this bullshit..? I'm not even Republican...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Kristy... go read the articles of impeachment. What qualifies as actionable and what the process and number of super majority votes are required to enact it. Even if the Democrats pull a small shift in enough House seats to tip the majority... nothing significant all of a sudden magically changes that will enable the Congress to run Trump out of office.
    Like...campaign violations, emoluments violations? He's guilty of both and both are impeachable offenses. You know if a Democrat was in Office you Repthuglicons would be calling out for blood so spare me your boring and predictable Fox News parroting. That narrative is really getting old. I could give a shit less abut impeachment for if that happened America would soon be under one fuck of a fascist Christian state and even you don't want that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    There has to be credible evidence of a crime committed by the President, which does not exist today.
    Wrong, hippie. The president must have committed crimes against the Office of the Presidency itself which the F A T Orange Blunder has. His other dealings such as sucking Russian dick to launder their blood money will eventually be known.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    There has to be a trial in the House, which can not occur until the first criteria has been met. Only after the House finds the President guilty... then a super majority vote is required in the Senate to remove him from office.
    The first criteria has already been met.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The 2018 mid-terms won't produce anything to support this nor fabricate evidence to enable Congress to move forward with impeachment... Doesn't matter which side anyone sits you'd have be delusional this think this election is a huge game changer in any significant way.
    See this is what amuses me about you fascist Rethuglicons. These midterms are not about impeachment but rather to impeded the damage this administration is doing. Impeachment is not on the main menu not by along shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    As complex and crazy our 3 branch system of government is... it's working as designed in preventing wild swings in governing and forcing broad consensus to make sweeping changes.
    Wrong again Mr. Schoolhouse Rock. This administration is doing everything it can to dismantle our 3-branch system or does being white and male make you ignorant to that fact?

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    I'm not even Republican...
    You're a terrible liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Oh Christ, the Poll expert! If Trump doesn't believe he's in trouble, then why is he: pleading you can't fire a guy who's doing a good job? Devolving into legally ill advised twatter meltdowns?

    How do "Dems favor open borders?" Obama was one of the biggest deporters in history. Illegal immigration is historically way down overall and is just a jerkoff issue of old white trash. Not favoring concentration and rape camps for immigrant children doesn't mean anyone supports "open borders". Don't let facts stop you from your strawman arguments...
    How many semesters of statistics did you take in college? I took two plus I worked in market research which involves gathering statistical data in which big decisions worth millions of dollars are based on. I probably know more about sampling and statistical data than you do. I'm having a good time watching the self-destructive behavior of the left and now I'm even wondering if the Democrat Party is even going to survive. One thing for sure. You people make a lot of noise on your death beds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Jesus fuck, aren't you the Nazi apologist? What polls are yo looking at? You give no links so I'm guessing (as usual) it more of the same shit you've been puling out of your ass for years. No one give a shit about how his sycophants feel. They are criminals. looters, cheaters, and Russian bought off lackeys. You fucking F A T 80's Rethuglicons with your white maleness and Regan-era nostalgia still believe that joke of a party is the same as its always been. Now with McCain gone, you stupid fucks are going to know the true meaning of fascism and its not going to pretty - especially for you white trash morons.
    Oh come on Kristy. You can do a better rant than that. Plus the Nazis were National Socialists. They were all for big government which I don't like. But go ahead and fly your hate copter around. It's entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    How many semesters of statistics did you take in college? I took two plus I worked in market research which involves gathering statistical data in which big decisions worth millions of dollars are based on. I probably know more about sampling and statistical data than you do. I'm having a good time watching the self-destructive behavior of the left and now I'm even wondering if the Democrat Party is even going to survive. One thing for sure. You people make a lot of noise on your death beds.
    Dude, the closest you have ever to come college was by watching 'Revenge of the Nerds.'

    But let's say (for once) your total bullshit is true then please write out a formula that explains your baseless nonsense. Otherwise, drink your Trump Kool-Aid and just shut the fuck up, okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Plus the Nazis were National Socialists. They were all for big government which I don't like. But go ahead and fly your hate copter around. It's entertaining.
    Wrong shit-fer-brains. The party you refer to is/was the National German Socialist Workers' Party who were all about fascism you clueless, revisionist, racist piece of shit. Not surprising since you never read a god damn book in your entire miserable life. But fly your turd helicopter all around. It's embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Kristy... go read the articles of impeachment. What qualifies as actionable and what the process and number of super majority votes are required to enact it. Even if the Democrats pull a small shift in enough House seats to tip the majority... nothing significant all of a sudden magically changes that will enable the Congress to run Trump out of office.

    There has to be credible evidence of a crime committed by the President, which does not exist today. There has to be a trial in the House, which can not occur until the first criteria has been met. Only after the House finds the President guilty... then a super majority vote is required in the Senate to remove him from office.

    The 2018 mid-terms won't produce anything to support this nor fabricate evidence to enable Congress to move forward with impeachment... Doesn't matter which side anyone sits you'd have be delusional this think this election is a huge game changer in any significant way.



    As complex and crazy our 3 branch system of government is... it's working as designed in preventing wild swings in governing and forcing broad consensus to make sweeping changes.

    What the hell does me being white or male have to do with any of this bullshit..? I'm not even Republican...
    HaHa! Got to love partisan politics. We have gone from Russian collusion to sex scandal delusion. Now Trump is Bill Clinton and Mueller is Kenneth Star. The only thing missing is a stained blue dress but someone will cook one up soon enough. Look. Bill actually had a cum shot in the oval office and lied about it under oath. He got impeached and disbarred for doing it. He should have gone to jail but we don't throw politicians in jail in this country for some reason. Bill Clinton continued to be president and served out his term. Mueller has been investigating forever digging through everyone's underwear drawers. It's gotten to be quite comical at this point. We are hearing about crimes from the Democrat base that nobody can find any proof on. At this point we are in Mr. Roger's land of make believe. What the panic is really about is people actually believed they were going to get all sorts of free shit from the government. They are worried they are never going to get it and what they are getting might go away. All I can say is there is no such thing as a free lunch and the world is going to pay you what it thinks you are worth. As Napoleon Dynamite says,"You need skills". Bitching on internet forums isn't a very marketable skill.

    Yeah it's great to say we aren't going to have any borders and anyone sick can come on in and get free healthcare. Sounds like something Jesus would do. You would have to believe in miracles to believe anything like that is actually sustainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Wrong shit-fer-brains. The party you refer to is/was the National German Socialist Workers' Party who were all about fascism you clueless, revisionist, racist piece of shit. Not surprising since you never read a god damn book in your entire miserable life. But fly your turd helicopter all around. It's embarrassing.
    Do you even know what fascism is? It's simply when the government merges with business and becomes totalitarian. Socialism is when the government provides goods and services. You can have fascism and socialism together idiot. Hitler's autobahn was a socialist project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Dude, the closest you have ever to come college was by watching 'Revenge of the Nerds.'

    But let's say (for once) your total bullshit is true then please write out a formula that explains your baseless nonsense. Otherwise, drink your Trump Kool-Aid and just shut the fuck up, okay?
    Nope. Got a BBA and a MBA. Sorry to disappoint you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    As far a polling goes you have to look at the aggregates. The ABC poll had a very small sample. It's all sampling and getting that right is a science in itself. It's not easy getting good polling data and you can't have any political bias and good luck there. We basically have two parallel universes. We are going to have a blue wave if you are a Democrat and we are going to have a red wave if you are a Republican. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The Dems made one huge mistake. The Democrats support open borders and even in California only about 20% of the population support an open border. That's a vote killer right there. The border stance of the Democrats is going to be like a lead weight around their ankles.
    The Republican party certainly seems to be taking the polling seriously... at least privately (even if they won't admit it on FAUX Noise....)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    HaHa! Got to love partisan politics. We have gone from Russian collusion to sex scandal delusion. Now Trump is Bill Clinton and Mueller is Kenneth Star. The only thing missing is a stained blue dress but someone will cook one up soon enough. Look. Bill actually had a cum shot in the oval office and lied about it under oath. He got impeached and disbarred for doing it. He should have gone to jail but we don't throw politicians in jail in this country for some reason. Bill Clinton continued to be president and served out his term. Mueller has been investigating forever digging through everyone's underwear drawers. It's gotten to be quite comical at this point. We are hearing about crimes from the Democrat base that nobody can find any proof on. At this point we are in Mr. Roger's land of make believe. What the panic is really about is people actually believed they were going to get all sorts of free shit from the government. They are worried they are never going to get it and what they are getting might go away. All I can say is there is no such thing as a free lunch and the world is going to pay you what it thinks you are worth. As Napoleon Dynamite says,"You need skills". Bitching on internet forums isn't a very marketable skill.

    Yeah it's great to say we aren't going to have any borders and anyone sick can come on in and get free healthcare. Sounds like something Jesus would do. You would have to believe in miracles to believe anything like that is actually sustainable.
    Just admit you're full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Nope. Got a BBA and a MBA. Sorry to disappoint you.
    No, no you don't. Unless you bought the off the back cover of Rolling Stone. Anyway, fucktard, if real then you should have zero problem writing your your formula.

    I'm waiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The Republican party certainly seems to be taking the polling seriously... at least privately (even if they won't admit it on FAUX Noise....)
    Yeah, the "Dumb Jerks" they are about as reliable as Alex Jone$ when it comes to their propaganda dispelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Do you even know what fascism is? It's simply when the government merges with business and becomes totalitarian. Socialism is when the government provides goods and services. You can have fascism and socialism together idiot. Hitler's autobahn was a socialist project.
    Seriously, kill yourself now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Wrong again Mr. Schoolhouse Rock. This administration is doing everything it can to dismantle our 3-branch system or does being white and male make you ignorant to that fact?
    The US Constitution is fully intact and under no imminent threat of any change...

    Be thankful for the 1st Amendment and it allowing you to continue blathering your nonsense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    The US Constitution is fully intact and under no imminent threat of any change...
    You just keep on believing in the dream world you live in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    How many semesters of statistics did you take in college? I took two plus I worked in market research which involves gathering statistical data in which big decisions worth millions of dollars are based on.
    Wow! That's impressive. You then used your excellent statistics background to continually float every nonsense Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission conspiracy theory here over the years. You can lay off the credentials Nitrous, I know you and have been here for years...


    I probably know more about sampling and statistical data than you do. I'm having a good time watching the self-destructive behavior of the left and now I'm even wondering if the Democrat Party is even going to survive. One thing for sure. You people make a lot of noise on your death beds.
    LMFAO. I'm wondering if you're completely mentally ill at this point. How will the Democrats ever survive getting that majority in Congress that will be more or less permanent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    HaHa! Got to love partisan politics. We have gone from Russian collusion to sex scandal delusion. Now Trump is Bill Clinton and Mueller is Kenneth Star. The only thing missing is a stained blue dress but someone will cook one up soon enough. Look. Bill actually had a cum shot in the oval office and lied about it under oath. He got impeached and disbarred for doing it. He should have gone to jail but we don't throw politicians in jail in this country for some reason. Bill Clinton continued to be president and served out his term. Mueller has been investigating forever digging through everyone's underwear drawers. It's gotten to be quite comical at this point. We are hearing about crimes from the Democrat base that nobody can find any proof on. At this point we are in Mr. Roger's land of make believe. What the panic is really about is people actually believed they were going to get all sorts of free shit from the government. They are worried they are never going to get it and what they are getting might go away. All I can say is there is no such thing as a free lunch and the world is going to pay you what it thinks you are worth. As Napoleon Dynamite says,"You need skills". Bitching on internet forums isn't a very marketable skill.

    Yeah it's great to say we aren't going to have any borders and anyone sick can come on in and get free healthcare. Sounds like something Jesus would do. You would have to believe in miracles to believe anything like that is actually sustainable.

    It's pretty clear you're ignorant and really don't read much. But instead of wasting my time responding bit by bit, I'll just say that if Clinton (either one) had done half of the nonsese things Trump has done in his Swampthing tenure, you'd be fucking crying "IMPEACHMENT!!!"

    I mean, for fucks sake take your meds, man!


    Believe you me, I'm going to drain the swamp and not go on vacation like Obama did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Oh come on Kristy. You can do a better rant than that. Plus the Nazis were National Socialists. They were all for big government which I don't like. But go ahead and fly your hate copter around. It's entertaining.
    Another stupid myth propagated by dickheads for the Fox News unwashed viewers:

    A.) How much smaller has the government gotten under any Republican administration?

    B.) The "National Socialist" moniker predated Hitler's takeover, and while there were left-wing "socialist" Nazis that wanted to blend the worst of both right wing nationalism with left wing seizure of state industries, they were killed off or banished by the late 30's after "The Night of the Long Knives".

    C.) The Nazis were avid capitalists and corrupt to their corp and most of the Nazi wartime industries were led by capitalist industrialists that profited handsomely from slave labor and lots of armaments contracts, as did corrupt Nazi cunts that enriched themselves. Were Siemens, Krupps, BMW, etc. ever nationalized? Nope! Horse-fucking-hockey!!

    I can make a very valid argument that Trump has much in common with Hitler, starting with the fact that he kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his desk, and his use of fear mongering nativist propaganda. We can then go to the fact that Hitler, like Trump, was a nihilist conspiracy theorist that believed what he wanted to believe independent from factual research or anecdotal observation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    HaHa! Got to love partisan politics. We have gone from Russian collusion to sex scandal delusion....
    Isn't sex a key part of espionage?: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...wer/799333002/

    Who's this?:

    Ahh, only a face a desperate old man that can't get laid can love!

    While you were retaking your statistics courses semester after semester, I was part of the deep state in military intelligence!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Do you even know what fascism is? It's simply when the government merges with business and becomes totalitarian. Socialism is when the government provides goods and services.
    That's EXACTLY what the Nazis did! Blend corporatism with the state, imbued with corruption and slave labor!

    You can have fascism and socialism together idiot. Hitler's autobahn was a socialist project.
    Red herring nonsense! Gee, I wonder if any German corporations benefited from Hitler's "works program" (that put to work able-bodied young men that could now be controlled and were not yet allowed to join the Wehrmacht still publicly abiding by the Versailles Treaty)? BTW, there is nothing inherently "socialist" about works programs. We did here, and no industries were nationalized in the process. But a fuck lot made money in contracts! By your argument, we're socialist because of our Pentagon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
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