It Happens to all of us, sadly

[Nitro Express]

At 64, he looks a heck of a lot better than a lot of folks much younger... Dave and the swimsuit models were all paid to be there and look pretty by the promoter. That's what people in the entertainment industry do.

I have no desire to relive 14/18/21... the dues were paid and life went on!!

What? You don't want to relive waking up hammered and hungover and needing a little toot of the devil's dandruff to get up and going in the morning to get to work?

[ZahZoo]

What? You don't want to relive waking up hammered and hungover and needing a little toot of the devil's dandruff to get up and going in the morning to get to work?

In simple terms, I don't want to relearn nor relive the hard lessons I learned back then... Lucky to have survived.

[TongueNGroove]

Does this look like a sad picture of old age..?

He looks like Steve Martins cooler older brother. Dave, don't you go dyin' on me!

By the way, I thought he sounded great in that panama video you posted. One thing we know for sure, dave is not a studio hack. Everything he sang in the studio he can STILL sing live. Well, except for a few extra high squeels maybe... But that is to be expected.

[Nickdfresh]

I find it amazing all the original members of VH are not only alive but seem to be rather healthy. Them boys drank a lot of booze, snorted a lot of coke, and smoked a lot of cigarettes, and stuck their dicks in contaminated holes. Still around and can still play. Dave isn't on oxygen being rolled around in a vegetable state.

And pot. Dave, if not others (most likely Alex), contaminated a few holes...

[Seshmeister]

I dont get all the hate regarding Dave's vocals.

Aside from a little more yelping - shit he's been doing since YFLM - his vocal delivery hasn't been all that different since then. While I do agree he was singing good on the 07-08 tour - again not very different. Sure the squeals and screams are long gone and they were gone in 07-08 as well, with exception to the odd classic scream here and there.

So all this hating on Dave these days I dont understand. Perhaps its the culture of hating. Lol

His singing on California Girls at this event was actually pretty good.

Want to really hear a singer actually struggle to get through a song? Check out Paul Stanley these days.

I'm sure a lot of it is a mixture of 2 factors

1) Singing is now judged by how good a live show blasting out sounds once recorded on a phone and then listened to on a phone speaker. A live rock show vocal performance sounds completely different when it's very loud which is kind of the point.

2) It's then compared to miming. All the fucking time. It's a shock at this point to hear someone not mime - all the biggest acts are miming all the fucking time. Go and laugh reading about the amazing 'performance' of Beyonce or Madonna as they mime and dance along to a track at a VMA show. It's a joke.

The only issue I have with Roth's singing are his choices to change the original melodies, personally at this point I like an odd flat note coz then I know it's real.

[Seshmeister]

Also I don't know the background of those girls but they don't appear to be plastic or photoshopped or unreal.

[Nitro Express]

In simple terms, I don't want to relearn nor relive the hard lessons I learned back then... Lucky to have survived.

Haha! I bet you could tell the grandkids some stories.

[Nitro Express]

Also I don't know the background of those girls but they don't appear to be plastic or photoshopped or unreal.

Plastic costs extra but didn't Roth say it was usually the girl next door he ended up with?

[78/84 guy]

I made that mental concession at the time, because he didn't have a good night in Tampa 2012: he was basically 50/50, and even that is probably being a little kind on my part. To be sure, anybody can have an off night, and if a singer is sick it's not as easy for the singer to play through that as, say, a bass player.

But he didn't get any better after that tour. The Tokyo Dome recordings were...clearly not doctored post-performance, and one wishes maybe they had been. I saw 3 full 2015 gigs online prior to tickets going on sale for my area, and it was more of the same from Dave. And these recent one-off solo appearances he has done...he's just getting worse to my ears. Like I said: Paul Lynde wardrobe choices, lack of hair, hammy Wacky Uncle Dave between song patter...I'm used to that from him. But if those three things are all he has left in his arsenal - if he can't just sing the tunes properly - I dunno…

Am I asking too much? Am I just being pissy about it? Should I just take a pill, chill out, be happy he is still around and go to the shows even when his vocals sound bad to me? Am I taking it all too seriously? Should I just not give a shit and enjoy whatever is left of it?

You've been taking it all too seriously for a decade almost Terry. But I love your takes on things. The guy's in the band ( what there is of it ) don't think that much about it. Dave just got old. It sucks but it's just that simple. There are thing he could do with his voice to clean it up. He doesn't seem to care IMO. That's a shame really. Because if he did these benifit shows and sounded better people wouldn't rip him as much for doing them. But it is what it is. Roth got old, and lazy on a stage. I'd love a new album like A.D.K.O.T. myself. They can stay home though. If the singer has no desire too sound decent why tour ? Honestly if Ed does something again I'd be surprised if Dave is involved.

[Nitro Express]

You've been taking it all too seriously for a decade almost Terry. But I love your takes on things. The guy's in the band ( what there is of it ) don't think that much about it. Dave just got old. It sucks but it's just that simple. There are thing he could do with his voice to clean it up. He doesn't seem to care IMO. That's a shame really. Because if he did these benifit shows and sounded better people wouldn't rip him as much for doing them. But it is what it is. Roth got old, and lazy on a stage. I'd love a new album like A.D.K.O.T. myself. They can stay home though. If the singer has no desire too sound decent why tour ? Honestly if Ed does something again I'd be surprised if Dave is involved.

It's still entertaining to watch Dave work a room. Yeah he's looking like Uncle Manny now but who cares. I'm glad he's not 350lbs with a beer in his hand and cheeto dust and grease stains on his shirt.

[Vinnie Velvet]

I'm starting to think a lot of you are closet Van Hagar fans. Lol

What happened to the Army here?

So much whining about Dave going on.

[ZahZoo]

All the whining is just symptomatic of middle age testosterone fall off... Lot of folks get pissy when an old guy shows em how it's done. Fuckin old guys rule!!

[Grit]

People are acting like he looks like Keith Richards or something. He looks pretty damn good for his age. He keeps his body fit and is having fun. Live and let live.

[Nitro Express]

Yeah but i bet he can still get the pussy.

Dave at his age today can get more pussy than the fat Dorito addicted teens can. There was some special force guy on Joe Rogan bitching that they can't find enough young people in shape to recruit. Shit. Ruined by the game controller. Wait until sex robots become affordable. The youth will really go to sludge because there will be zero incentive to look good.

[Nickdfresh]

I actually dig his current look. Of course he's old, they can't all choke to death on their vomit, or shoot smack and OD in a Paris bar restroom stall before they're 35 and remain young forever. He looks like a cool older man and knows his limits, but still has a good time...

I don't have to relive being 14/18/21/30 forever vicariously through my rock star idols...

And when I say Dave's limits, I mean he's down to three girls a night...