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    How the Kavanaugh Nomination Happened

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    Justice Antonin Scalia died on February 13, 2016, and Gorsuch, who was confirmed Friday, is set to be sworn in by Chief Justice John Roberts on Monday — a 422-day vacancy.

    Previously, the longest record for a vacancy on a nine member Supreme Court was 389 days, the period between Abe Fortas’ resignation on May 14, 1969, and Harry Blackmun’s oath of office of June 9, 1970.

    Why is it that there is such a rush with this guy?
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    The Republicans probably want to wrap his nomination up before the Court goes back into business in October. And they are also considering they might well lose the Senate in November (though it's less likely than the House) which would take them out of the judicial confirmation drivers seat (at least in theory)

    My gut feeling is they want this asshole on the court so they can ram a bunch of right wing bullshit through after the election, and it won't matter if Congress completely turns over AND Cheeto is impeached by next February, the damage will already be done.

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    Based on past precedent, nothing is really being rushed here, but that's not to say there aren't typical silly games at play between the political parties.

    Absolutely none of it has to do with pending cases working their way up to be heard by the court...

    Democrats have two primary motivations... 1. Obstruct the Republican majority at any cost... 2. Delay this until after the mid-terms on some extremely low probability chance that the Democrats will retake the Senate majority so they can carry the votes to further perform reason number 1. (The House doesn't matter here because they don't have a vote for SCOTUS appointments.) There's a secondary motivation for pay back for delaying Obama's pick that enabled Gorsuch to be appointed/confirmed...

    Republicans want to get this done before the mid-terms while they hold the majority and also so it's not clouding the mid-term races in critical seats.

    At present, it doesn't look like there's much of a hope in hell that the Democrats will shift the majority in the Senate this November... So this delay tactic will more likely backfire on the Democrats, be used against them in the mid-terms and Kavanaugh will still be confirmed no matter when it gets to the full Senate floor vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Based on past precedent, nothing is really being rushed here, but that's not to say there aren't typical silly games at play between the political parties.

    Absolutely none of it has to do with pending cases working their way up to be heard by the court...

    Democrats have two primary motivations... 1. Obstruct the Republican majority at any cost... 2. Delay this until after the mid-terms on some extremely low probability chance that the Democrats will retake the Senate majority so they can carry the votes to further perform reason number 1. (The House doesn't matter here because they don't have a vote for SCOTUS appointments.) There's a secondary motivation for pay back for delaying Obama's pick that enabled Gorsuch to be appointed/confirmed...

    Republicans want to get this done before the mid-terms while they hold the majority and also so it's not clouding the mid-term races in critical seats.

    At present, it doesn't look like there's much of a hope in hell that the Democrats will shift the majority in the Senate this November... So this delay tactic will more likely backfire on the Democrats, be used against them in the mid-terms and Kavanaugh will still be confirmed no matter when it gets to the full Senate floor vote.
    Courts are supposed to be politically neutral. The Supreme Court is politically biased and thinks it is the legislative branch by legislating from the bench. The court is a joke as is the federal government at this point. A hair ball of corruption that we all are choking on. All Empires fail. We are seeing it live in front of our naked eyes.
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    Seems an impossible premise to expect 100% neutrality... add to that the political leanings of the day have shifted widely in the last 60 years.

    The great thing about the US Constitution is that the framework it established has left room for the evolution of societal and cultural growth in the last 200+ years. Despite all the political gamesmanship... the SCOTUS has done a pretty good job on interpreting our laws and upholding the basic tenets of the Constitution.

    I don't share your opinion that we're seeing imminent failure of system of government... just the normal wandering of our legal landscape on the path of governing this great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Seems an impossible premise to expect 100% neutrality...

    Medical science is really screwing with the way this lifetime thing used to work by making these people on there far too long.

    Most people in their 80s are fucking nuts, you don't want them choosing the TV channel never mind deciding anything to do with the internet or sex.
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    I agree... there's a tipping point with age, plus not every person reaches "fucking nuts" at the same age. Some master it at 50 others 75... some were just born gifted with a strong bat-shit crazy gene!!

    On the other hand, I've run into an age head-wind that's frustrating as hell... I have to deal with a lot of Generation X and millennials in the technology world who assume people my age are clueless when it comes to understanding and working with today's technology. Sure, there's a good percentage of my peers who don't have a clue because they chose career paths in traditional industries that weren't technology based. But then there's those of us who engineered and developed the technology all this fancy stuff runs on.

    It's pathetic to have to listen to 38 year old idiots gushing over something like the latest collaborative chat tool... worse yet they insult you by trying to explain how it works and brag about how adept they are at using the cool functions. What they don't get is this same functionality existed 30 years ago... the only difference is it didn't have some stupid name like Slack or Blue Jeans and there wasn't little moronic cartoon characters embedded in it. As cool as they think they are... they don't realize I was developing graphical interfaces back in the 90's that enabled them to play with their stupid cartoon characters at work...

    The truly scary part is these fools believe this shit makes people more productive and it "matters" to humanity... sadly they will eventually figure out that we've devolved back to hieroglyphics as a form of communication with this stupid emoji crap. We've replaced stone tablets with smart phones... Who knew the ancient Egyptians were technologists...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Medical science is really screwing with the way this lifetime thing used to work by making these people on there far too long.

    Most people in their 80s are fucking nuts, you don't want them choosing the TV channel never mind deciding anything to do with the internet or sex.
    Yep RGB needs to head to the nearest nursing home pronto.

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    Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from the Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s College Years, by His Yale Classmate Deborah Ramirez
    By Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer
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    September 23, 2018


    As Senate Republicans press for a swift vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation, and at least two have begun investigating it. Senior Republican staffers also learned of the allegation last week and, in conversations with The New Yorker, expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh’s nomination. Soon after, Senate Republicans issued renewed calls to accelerate the timing of a committee vote. The Democratic Senate offices reviewing the allegations believe that they merit further investigation. “This is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. It should be fully investigated,” Senator Mazie Hirono, of Hawaii, said. An aide in one of the other Senate offices added, “These allegations seem credible, and we’re taking them very seriously. If established, they’re clearly disqualifying.”

    The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence. The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in the incident. “I would think an F.B.I. investigation would be warranted,” she said.

    In a statement, Kavanaugh wrote, “This alleged event from 35 years ago did not happen. The people who knew me then know that this did not happen, and have said so. This is a smear, plain and simple. I look forward to testifying on Thursday about the truth, and defending my good name—and the reputation for character and integrity I have spent a lifetime building—against these last-minute allegations.”

    The White House spokesperson Kerri Kupec said the Administration stood by Kavanaugh. “This 35-year-old, uncorroborated claim is the latest in a coordinated smear campaign by the Democrats designed to tear down a good man. This claim is denied by all who were said to be present and is wholly inconsistent with what many women and men who knew Judge Kavanaugh at the time in college say. The White House stands firmly behind Judge Kavanaugh.”

    Ramirez said that, when both she and Kavanaugh were freshmen at Yale, she was invited by a friend on the women’s soccer team to a dorm-room party. She recalled that the party took place in a suite at Lawrance Hall, in the part of Yale known as Old Campus, and that a small group of students decided to play a drinking game together. “We were sitting in a circle,” she said. “People would pick who drank.” Ramirez was chosen repeatedly, she said, and quickly became inebriated. At one point, she said, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis in her direction. Later, she said, she was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words, as that male student and another stood nearby. (Ramirez identified the two male onlookers, but, at her request, The New Yorker is not naming them.)

    A third male student then exposed himself to her. “I remember a penis being in front of my face,” she said. “I knew that’s not what I wanted, even in that state of mind.” She recalled remarking, “That’s not a real penis,” and the other students laughing at her confusion and taunting her, one encouraging her to “kiss it.” She said that she pushed the person away, touching it in the process. Ramirez, who was raised a devout Catholic, in Connecticut, said that she was shaken. “I wasn’t going to touch a penis until I was married,” she said. “I was embarrassed and ashamed and humiliated.” She remembers Kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing, pulling up his pants. “Brett was laughing,” she said. “I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.” She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’ ” she said. “It was his full name. I don’t think it was just ‘Brett.’ And I remember hearing and being mortified that this was out there.”

    Ramirez acknowledged that there are significant gaps in her memories of the evening, and that, if she ever presents her story to the F.B.I. or members of the Senate, she will inevitably be pressed on her motivation for coming forward after so many years, and questioned about her memory, given her drinking at the party.

    And yet, after several days of considering the matter carefully, she said, “I’m confident about the pants coming up, and I’m confident about Brett being there.” Ramirez said that what has stayed with her most forcefully is the memory of laughter at her expense from Kavanaugh and the other students. “It was kind of a joke,” she recalled. “And now it’s clear to me it wasn’t a joke.”

    By his freshman year, Kavanaugh was eighteen, and legally an adult. During his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Kavanaugh swore under oath that as a legal adult he had never “committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature.”

    The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party. A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.” The story stayed with him, he said, because it was disturbing and seemed outside the bounds of typically acceptable behavior, even during heavy drinking at parties on campus. The classmate said that he had been shocked, but not necessarily surprised, because the social group to which Kavanaugh belonged often drank to excess. He recalled Kavanaugh as “relatively shy” until he drank, at which point he said that Kavanaugh could become “aggressive and even belligerent.”

    Another classmate, Richard Oh, an emergency-room doctor in California, recalled overhearing, soon after the party, a female student tearfully recounting to another student an incident at a party involving a gag with a fake penis, followed by a male student exposing himself. Oh is not certain of the identity of the female student. Ramirez told her mother and sister about an upsetting incident at the time, but did not describe the details to either due to her embarrassment.

    Mark Krasberg, an assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of New Mexico who was also a member of Kavanaugh and Ramirez’s class at Yale, said Kavanaugh’s college behavior had become a topic of discussion among former Yale students soon after Kavanaugh’s nomination. In one e-mail that Krasberg received in September, the classmate who recalled hearing about the incident with Ramirez alluded to the allegation and wrote that it “would qualify as a sexual assault,” he speculated, “if it’s true.”

    One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. “I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter,” he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, “I have no idea.” The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, “I have zero recollection.”

    In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.”

    The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.” She said she hadn’t spoken with Ramirez for about ten years, but that the two women had been close all through college, and Kavanaugh had remained part of what she called their “larger social circle.” In an initial conversation with The New Yorker, she suggested that Ramirez may have been politically motivated. Later, she said that she did not know if this was the case.

    Ramirez is a registered Democrat, but said that her decision to speak out was not politically motivated and, regarding her views, that she “works toward human rights, social justice, and social change.” Ramirez said that she felt “disappointed and betrayed” by the statements from classmates questioning her allegation, “because I clearly remember people in the room whose names are on this letter.”

    Several other classmates said that they believed Ramirez to be credible and honest, and vouched for her integrity. James Roche was roommates with Kavanaugh at the time of the alleged incident and is now the C.E.O. of a software company in San Francisco. “Debbie and I became close friends shortly after we both arrived at Yale,” he said. “She stood out as being exceptionally honest and gentle. I cannot imagine her making this up.” He said that he never witnessed Kavanaugh engage in any sexual misconduct, but did recall him being “frequently, incoherently drunk.” He described Ramirez as a vulnerable outsider. “Is it believable that she was alone with a wolfy group of guys who thought it was funny to sexually torment a girl like Debbie? Yeah, definitely. Is it believable that Kavanaugh was one of them? Yes.” Another acquaintance from college, Jennifer Klaus, similarly said that she considered the allegation plausible, adding, “Debbie’s always been a very truthful, kind—almost to the point of being selfless—individual.” A third classmate, who Ramirez thought had attended the party, said that she was not present at the incident. The former student, who asked not to be named, said that she also found Ramirez credible.

    Former students described an atmosphere at Yale at the time in which alcohol-fuelled parties often led to behavior similar to that described by Ramirez. “I believe it could have happened,” another classmate who knew both Kavanaugh and Ramirez said. Though she was not aware of Kavanaugh being involved in any specific misconduct, she recalled that heavy drinking was routine and that Ramirez was sometimes victimized and taunted by male students in his social circle. “They were always, like, ‘Debbie’s here!,’ and then they’d get into their ‘Lord of the Flies’ thing,” she said. While at Yale, Kavanaugh became a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity, or “DKE,” which several students said was known for its wild and, in the view of some critics, misogynistic parties. Kavanaugh was also a member of an all-male secret society, Truth and Courage, which was popularly known by the nickname “Tit and Clit.”

    Ramirez said that she continued to socialize with one of the male classmates who had egged Kavanaugh on during the party during college; she even invited the classmate to her house for Thanksgiving one year, after he told her that he had nowhere to go. She also attended his wedding, years later, as a guest of his wife, and said that she posed for photographs with Kavanaugh, smiling.

    Ramirez said that she remained silent about the matter and did not fully confront her memories about it for years because she blamed herself for drinking too much. “It was a story that was known, but it was a story I was embarrassed about,” she said. More recently, she has begun to reassess what happened. “Even if I did drink too much, any person observing it, would they want their daughter, their granddaughter, with a penis in their face, while they’re drinking that much?” she said. “I can say that at fifty-three, but when I was nineteen or twenty I was vulnerable. I didn’t know better.” Reflecting on the incident now, she said she considers Kavanaugh’s male classmates culpable. “They’re accountable for not stopping this,” she said. However, “What Brett did is worse.” She added, “What does it mean, that this person has a role in defining women’s rights in our future?”

    As Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings became a national story, the discussions among Ramirez and Kavanaugh’s classmates took on heightened urgency, eventually spreading to news organizations and to the Senate. Senate aides from Ramirez’s home state of Colorado alerted a lawyer, Stanley Garnett, a former Democratic district attorney in Boulder, who currently represents her. Ramirez ultimately decided to begin telling her story publicly, before others did so for her. “I didn’t want any of this,” she said. “But now I have to speak.”

    Ramirez said that she hoped her story would support that of Christine Blasey Ford, the California professor who has raised an allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh that bears several similarities to Ramirez’s claim. Like Ramirez, Ford said that Kavanaugh was involved in sexual misconduct at a party while drunk and egged on by a male friend. In July, she sent a letter to Senator Dianne Feinstein alleging that, at a party in the summer of 1982, when she was fifteen and Kavanaugh was seventeen and in high school, Kavanaugh pushed her into a bedroom, locked the door, pinned her to a bed, and covered her mouth to stop her screams as he attempted to pull off her clothes. Details of Ford’s allegation were initially made public by The New Yorker, which did not name her at the time. Subsequently, she disclosed her name in an interview with the Washington Post. In her letter, Ford said that during the incident she feared that Kavanaugh might inadvertently kill her. She alleged that a male friend and Georgetown Prep classmate of Kavanaugh’s, Mark Judge, was present in the room, alternately urging Kavanaugh to “go for it” and to “stop.” Kavanaugh has denied the allegation.

    Ford’s allegation has made Judge a potentially pivotal witness for Kavanaugh. Judge told The New Yorker that he had “no recollection” of such an incident. Judge, who is a conservative writer, later gave an interview to The Weekly Standard in which he called Ford’s allegation “just absolutely nuts,” adding, “I never saw Brett act that way.” Asked by the interviewer whether he could remember any “sort of rough-housing with a female student back in high school” that might have been “interpreted differently by parties involved,” Judge told the publication, “I can’t. I can recall a lot of rough-housing with guys.” He added, “I don’t remember any of that stuff going on with girls.”

    After seeing Judge’s denial, Elizabeth Rasor, who met Judge at Catholic University and was in a relationship with him for about three years, said that she felt morally obligated to challenge his account that “ ‘no horseplay’ took place at Georgetown Prep with women.” Rasor stressed that “under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t reveal information that was told in confidence,” but, she said, “I can’t stand by and watch him lie.” In an interview with The New Yorker, she said, “Mark told me a very different story.” Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual. She said that Judge did not name others involved in the incident, and she has no knowledge that Kavanaugh participated. But Rasor was disturbed by the story and noted that it undercut Judge’s protestations about the sexual innocence of Georgetown Prep. (Barbara Van Gelder, an attorney for Judge, said that he “categorically denies” the account related by Rasor. Van Gelder said that Judge had no further comment.)

    Another woman who attended high school in the nineteen-eighties in Montgomery County, Maryland, where Georgetown Prep is located, also refuted Judge’s account of the social scene at the time, sending a letter to Ford’s lawyers saying that she had witnessed boys at parties that included Georgetown Prep students engaging in sexual misconduct. In an interview, the woman, who asked to have her name withheld for fear of political retribution, recalled that male students “would get a female student blind drunk” on what they called “jungle juice”—grain alcohol mixed with Hawaiian Punch—then try to take advantage of her. “It was disgusting,” she said. “They treated women like meat.”

    Kavanaugh’s attitude toward women has come to play a central role in his confirmation process. His backers have offered portrayals of his strong support for girls and women. When Kavanaugh accepted Trump’s nomination to the Court at a White House event in July, he and Trump both stressed that he had numerous female law clerks, and that he coached his young daughters’ school basketball teams. During his Senate confirmation hearings, Kavanaugh at one point ushered into the Senate hearing room a large group of school girls whose basketball games he had coached, showcasing his warm and supportive relationships with women. Earlier this month, on the same day The New Yorker reported details of Ford’s allegation, Republicans on the Judiciary Committee released a letter from sixty-five women defending the nominee. On Monday, CNN reported that the White House has been contacting many of those women again, hoping to present their perspective to the media, perhaps as part of a group news conference.

    The very different portrayals of Kavanaugh and his social scene offered by Ford, and now Ramirez, come at a crucial point in the confirmation process. On Friday, the Republican Senator Charles Grassley, of Iowa, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, issued a public ultimatum to Ford, announcing that he would schedule the committee’s vote on Kavanaugh’s confirmation for Monday morning if she did not respond to an invitation to testify by a deadline, set first for Friday night and then for Saturday afternoon. Lawyers for Ford had pushed back, demanding an outside investigation of Ford’s allegation by the F.B.I. before she offered testimony, and said that she needed additional time to prepare. The White House and F.B.I. have declined to pursue that F.B.I. investigation, though Grassley has stated that his office has conducted its own inquiries into the matter. On Sunday, Ford’s lawyer and the committee reached an agreement for her to testify on Thursday.

    In a statement, Kavanaugh’s attorneys Beth Wilkinson and Alexandra Walsh wrote, “Judge Kavanaugh fully and honestly answered the Judiciary Committee’s questions over multiple days only to have unsubstantiated allegations come out when a vote on his confirmation was imminent. What matters in situations like these are facts and evidence.” Like Kavanaugh, they said that, on Thursday, “testimony and evidence will confirm what Judge Kavanaugh has made clear all along—that he did not commit the sexual assault Dr. Blasey Ford describes.”

    The issue has proved to be politically delicate for the White House. Last week, Vanity Fair reported that White House officials were concerned about additional allegations against Kavanaugh emerging, and cited a source who claimed that Ivanka Trump, the President’s daughter and adviser, had urged him to withdraw Kavanaugh’s nomination. Trump has defended Kavanaugh in the wake of Ford’s allegations. In a series of tweets on Friday, he sought to undermine her account of events, writing, “I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents.” He described Kavanaugh as “a fine man,” who he wrote was “under assault by radical left wing politicians.”

    Ramirez said that witnessing the attempts to discredit Ford had made her frightened to share her own story, which she knew would be attacked due to the gaps in her memory and her level of inebriation at the time. “I’m afraid how this will all come back on me,” she said. Her attorney, Garnett, said that he and Ramirez had not yet decided when and how she would convey the details of her allegation to the Senate Judiciary Committee and whether new counsel would represent her in Washington. “We’re carefully evaluating what the appropriate next steps would be,” he said. They both said that an F.B.I. investigation of the matter was merited. “I do believe an F.B.I. investigation of this kind of character-related information would be appropriate, and would be an effective way to relay the information to the committee,” Garnett said. Of Ramirez, he added, “She’s as careful and credible a witness as I’ve encountered in thirty-six years of practicing law.” Ramirez said that she hoped an investigation could be carried out before the committee voted on Kavanaugh’s nomination. “At least look at it,” she said of her claim. “At least check it out.”

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    Apparently Kav's 80's teen buddy movie pal Mark Judge admitted to his ex-girlfriend that he took part in a gang rape of an unconscious or very drunk girl around that time. Although, he didn't say whether Kavanaugh was there: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...923-story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I agree... there's a tipping point with age, plus not every person reaches "fucking nuts" at the same age. Some master it at 50 others 75... some were just born gifted with a strong bat-shit crazy gene!!

    On the other hand, I've run into an age head-wind that's frustrating as hell... I have to deal with a lot of Generation X and millennials in the technology world who assume people my age are clueless when it comes to understanding and working with today's technology. Sure, there's a good percentage of my peers who don't have a clue because they chose career paths in traditional industries that weren't technology based. But then there's those of us who engineered and developed the technology all this fancy stuff runs on.

    It's pathetic to have to listen to 38 year old idiots gushing over something like the latest collaborative chat tool... worse yet they insult you by trying to explain how it works and brag about how adept they are at using the cool functions. What they don't get is this same functionality existed 30 years ago... the only difference is it didn't have some stupid name like Slack or Blue Jeans and there wasn't little moronic cartoon characters embedded in it. As cool as they think they are... they don't realize I was developing graphical interfaces back in the 90's that enabled them to play with their stupid cartoon characters at work...

    The truly scary part is these fools believe this shit makes people more productive and it "matters" to humanity... sadly they will eventually figure out that we've devolved back to hieroglyphics as a form of communication with this stupid emoji crap. We've replaced stone tablets with smart phones... Who knew the ancient Egyptians were technologists...
    Well technology isn't everything. Sometimes it's good to stay old school. Some things will keep working even when the grid goes down and the power goes out. A club will still work. A club also works to beat some humility into the young assholes who think you are no longer useful or relevant. If you are to the age of needing a cane, I suggest not using one of the lighter aluminum models but use a good old cane made from hardwood. Preferably with a heavy brass top on it. You can really change the attitude of some young whipper snapper with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Seems an impossible premise to expect 100% neutrality... add to that the political leanings of the day have shifted widely in the last 60 years.

    The great thing about the US Constitution is that the framework it established has left room for the evolution of societal and cultural growth in the last 200+ years. Despite all the political gamesmanship... the SCOTUS has done a pretty good job on interpreting our laws and upholding the basic tenets of the Constitution.

    I don't share your opinion that we're seeing imminent failure of system of government... just the normal wandering of our legal landscape on the path of governing this great nation.
    Yeah. We are the oldest republic but I think respect of the system is gone. It worked in the past because all the players respected the system and played within the rules. Now the rules don't matter. When that becomes the attitude and nobody is enforcing the rules the system is toast. The US Congress was the hardest branch of government to corrupt since it's so diverse. Now it's corrupt with it's members staying in until they get brain tumors or are too old to function. They aren't checking or balancing anything. They live well off their special interest money and do very little. They don't even read the bills they vote on. Once the congress is gone everything else goes. That's where we are and all the partisan banter is pass the buck noise. I think we are going to see the US federal government devolve past this point.

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    Kavanaugh was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Justice Antonin Scalia died on February 13, 2016, and Gorsuch, who was confirmed Friday, is set to be sworn in by Chief Justice John Roberts on Monday — a 422-day vacancy.

    Previously, the longest record for a vacancy on a nine member Supreme Court was 389 days, the period between Abe Fortas’ resignation on May 14, 1969, and Harry Blackmun’s oath of office of June 9, 1970.

    Why is it that there is such a rush with this guy?
    Because the Republicans want to get a justice confirmed before the election. It's all partisan politics. It's why the Supreme Court is morphing into a failure. Courts are supposed to be neutral and not political. The Supreme Court originally existed to determine whether laws were constitutional or not. Now the court is starting to act like a legislative branch reinterpreting the law and changing the law. The court is usurping more power than was originally intended and it's why both parties want to stack the court with their appointees. It's no longer about who is the most qualified to be determine if laws are constitutional or not. It's all politics and if this is the case the court has devolved into a joke just like congress and the executive branch have.

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    A lot of this is kabuki theater. Both Republican and Democrat members of congress have come into office poor and end up becoming multi-millioares while in it. They stay in office for decades. It's about getting rich more than serving the public. Most the partisan bantering is pro-wrestling while each side are taking money from the same fat cats.

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    Stick a fork in Rapey Brett. He's done!

    Here's a page from the official declaration of Julie Swetnick, the third accuser (so far) against Kavanaugh, who is now represented by Stormy Daniels' lawyer, Avenatti.



    If that piece of shit doesn't withdraw his nomination after this, somebody will probably kill him and make the question irrelevant.
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    I think it's clear that the notion of Kavanaugh as some clean-cut, conservative choirboy has been shattered. These allegations, even if exaggerated are not coming out of a vacuum. I don't think it's been mentioned here that it was understood that only hot, "model" looking girls could apply to be a clerk for Judge Kavanaugh. I think he's a privileged, elitist piece of shit masquerading as some moralist douche trying to bring back the good ol' days that never existed to begin with. But I do think he's not really a threat to Roe v. Wade, in his heart of dark hearts, this guy is fine with abortions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I think it's clear that the notion of Kavanaugh as some clean-cut, conservative choirboy has been shattered. These allegations, even if exaggerated are not coming out of a vacuum. I don't think it's been mentioned here that it was understood that only hot, "model" looking girls could apply to be a clerk for Judge Kavanaugh. I think he's a privileged, elitist piece of shit masquerading as some moralist douche trying to bring back the good ol' days that never existed to begin with. But I do think he's not really a threat to Roe v. Wade, in his heart of dark hearts, this guy is fine with abortions...
    I think it's clear the circus has come to town to run the clock out. Thank's for the entertainment.

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    In short. The Dems are running the clock out and hoping to pull a win in the senate. Meanwhile the stalling tactics are quite entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    But I do think he's not really a threat to Roe v. Wade, in his heart of dark hearts, this guy is fine with abortions...
    At no point ever were rich white guys unable to obtain abortions when required.

    Are you so confident that he won't take away that right from everyone else?

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    Exclusive: Read Excerpts From Brett Kavanaugh’s 1982 Diary
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    The fight over Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation began as an argument about what kind of Supreme Court justice he would be. But in recent days, it has morphed into a debate over what kind of teenage boy he once was.

    Christine Blasey Ford, Deborah Ramirez, and a few of Kavanaugh’s former classmates say that the young Brett was a hard-partying frat boy, one capable of becoming violent and sexually abusive in his inebriation. But Kavanaugh, and others who knew him in his youth, paint a very different picture.

    On Monday night, the Supreme Court nominee told Fox News that “the vast majority of the time I spent in high school was studying or focused on sports and being a good friend to the boys and the girls that I was friends with.” He went on to say that he spent his adolescence “focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday … working on my service projects and friendship — friendship with my fellow classmates and friendship with girls from the local all-girls Catholic schools.” Kavanaugh insists that he has “always treated women with dignity and respect” — a claim endorsed by 65 women who say that they knew Kavanaugh well during his high-school years.

    Kavanaugh admits that he did attend some parties in his day, and that “the drinking age was 18, and [so] yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there.” But the Supreme Court nominee has not confessed to underage drinking, or drinking to the point of blacking out (let alone to committing sexual assault). He further maintains that he was a virgin in high school and for many years after. His allies insist that, if some young man did attempt to rape Christine Blasey at a party in the summer of 1982, he must have been a Kavanaugh look-alike.

    But Kavanaugh’s senior yearbook at Georgetown Prep appears to undermine some parts of his narrative. That document brands Kavanaugh as King of “the Beach Week Ralph Club,” Treasurer of the “Keg City Club — 100 Kegs or Bust,” and a “Renate Alumnus” — an apparent insinuation that Kavanaugh was one of many Georgetown Prep graduates to have sexual relations with Renate Schroeder Dolphin, then a girl at a nearby Catholic school.

    Still, Kavanaugh says that these inscriptions are misleading. For example, his lawyer claims that the “Renate Alumnus” bit is no misogynistic boast about an act of fornication, but merely a reference to the fact that “Judge Kavanaugh and Ms. Dolphin attended one high school event together and shared a brief kiss good night following that event.” (Dolphin claims she has never kissed Brett Kavanaugh.)

    To substantiate his account of his high-school years, Kavanaugh has released a personal calendar from the summer of 1982 (when Ford alleges that he assaulted her). The calendar shows that Kavanaugh went on beach vacations with his family, and to “basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and college interviews” — but contains not a single marked entry for an underage drinking party.

    Now, in hopes of setting the record straight, Kavanaugh’s attorneys have provided New York with another primary source document: excerpts from a diary Kavanaugh kept that very same summer. Rather than substitute our commentary for hard evidence, we’ve chosen to simply publish the excerpts in full:

    May 5th

    Woke early. Said morning prayers. Studied for the SATs for three hours, then spent the afternoon reading to the blind. In the evening, shot some baskets with my fellow adolescent males.

    The competition was vigorous, but sportsmanlike. Afterwards, the boys debated which of the girls at National Cathedral was “the hottest.” I refused to engage in their sordid discussion. “Certainly, many of the young women at that school are physically attractive,” I told my schoolyard chums. “Still, I believe that the highest form of Eros is not the love of bodies, but rather the love of wisdom.”

    “Ah, if you love wisdom so much, why don’t you marry the Constitution?” Mark asked.

    Would that I could Mark — would that I could!

    May 26th

    Attended a movie outing, as scheduled. “Fast Times at Ridgemont High.” Two out of five stars: Mirthful in moments, but utterly unrealistic and unrelatable in its depiction of high-school life.

    After the film, I came home and put the finishing touches on my final project for sculpture class — a photo-realistic mask of my own face. The verisimilitude is eerie in its perfection.

    June 13th

    Had lunch with my 65 close, female friends. We discussed the school year’s end, love, life, and volume two of Simone de Beauvoir’s The Second Sex. Told Moira that she doesn’t “owe” it to Jeff to go to second base — and if he keeps pressing the issue, she should look for a new suitor who respects her boundaries. Assured Stephanie that she was gorgeous, inside and out, and that Hollywood’s conception of feminine beauty was oppressively narrow. Encouraged Cassandra to ignore her father’s gender-normative hang-ups and try out for her public school’s wrestling team in the fall (glass ceilings are made to be broken!). Mostly though, I just listened.

    On the way home back home, I stopped in at the hospital to donate some bone marrow.

    June 20th

    Went to church, as I do every Sunday. Reflected on my faith in Catholicism, and belief in the sanctity of all human life, from its very earliest stages (but not, necessarily, in an anti-choice sort of way).

    Later, oversaw a meeting of the “Keg City Club” — a philanthropic organization which aims to deliver barrels of potable water to cities at risk of drought. As Treasurer, I reiterated my view that we had enough funds in our coffers to arrange for the provision of at least 100 kegs by the end of the fiscal year.

    June 21st

    My face has been stolen. For the past two weeks, my photo-realistic mask was hanging at G-Prep, as part of the year-end art show. But when I came by to pick it up this afternoon, the wall where it had been mounted lay bare. I’ve always considered myself a pro-law teen. But this wanton act of theft has redoubled my conviction that laws are very good.

    July 4th

    At the beach for the week with my family. Met three charming young surfers, all named Ralph. They offered to make me an honorary member of their eponymous “club.” I couldn’t refuse. Will spend all day tomorrow volunteering at a home for children orphaned by shark attacks.

    July 24th

    A little groggy today. Stayed up late last night reading jurisprudence. Have said it before and will say it again: Roe v. Wade is settled law.

    July 27th

    Attended a party at Mark’s house last night. Upon my arrival, was perturbed to find that there were no parental guardians in the home. When I went to place my modest contribution to the potlach (a two-liter bottle of sarsaparilla) in the kitchen, was chagrined to see the center-island festooned with wine and spirits. I asked Mark if he were familiar with the drinking age in this part of the country, and/or, with the scientific literature on adolescent brain development (which demonstrates that alcoholic beverages can exacerbate the teenage mind’s predilection for rash decision-making). He said that it sounded like I could use a drink, and foisted a libation upon me. I took a sip but did not swallow, then stepped into the living room to call the police.

    I saw him the moment I reentered the kitchen.

    He was standing too close to a visibly inebriated sophomore. Ogling her — with my own eyes. Words cannot express the uncanny horror I felt then. “Return my visage at once, scoundrel!” I cried. The female sophomore turned to me, and then back to the thief, and then to me again. “I think I’ve had too much,” she stammered as my doppelgänger fled to the foyer. I chased him out the door and onto the benighted streets of Bethesda. He was quick — but, thanks to my years of focus on athletics, I was quicker. I took him down at the bottom of the driveway with a proper form tackle, then pinned him to the pavement by his wrists. His breath reeked of vodka. His eyes flared with malice. For a few moments I couldn’t speak, transfixed by the twisted mirror of his face.

    “Who are you?” I finally said.

    “Brett Kavanaugh,” he hissed.

    “No, you’re not.”

    “Say it all you want — when it matters most, no one will believe you,” he said, enigmatically, before dissolving into a fit of maniacal laughter.

    Then came the sirens and the flash of headlights. In my moment of distraction, he bit my wrist. I fell to my side in pain as he wriggled up from under me and then disappeared into the darkness. I walked back to the house to thank the arriving officers for their timely response.

    Minutes later, the authorities led Mark out the door in handcuffs. As they were putting him in the back of a squad car he turned to me and said, “I know you only did this for my own good. Thank you for always focusing on being a good friend to me.”

    “You’re welcome,” I replied. “But I didn’t just do it for you, Mark – I also did it for the law.”

    When I returned home, I lay awake, unable to get my doppelgänger’s face out of my head. “Was he right?” I asked myself. If he committed some vile act in my name, would anyone believe me?

    But after hours of studying my ceiling fan, and reflecting on the wisdom of Christ and the founding fathers, I decided that my truth would be heard. In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart.

    Shortly thereafter, I descended into a beautiful dream; the Constitution was a woman, and I was giving her the most conscientious cunnilingus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    In short. The Dems are running the clock out and hoping to pull a win in the senate. Meanwhile the stalling tactics are quite entertaining.
    Let's find any nitrous posts decrying and being entertained by GOP doing this as virtual policy during Dem Admins:

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/06/49285...omination-soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    At no point ever were rich white guys unable to obtain abortions when required.

    Are you so confident that he won't take away that right from everyone else?
    Yeah, but one of my points is that at least some cuntservatives don't really want to prevent abortions, despite public moralist protestations. They're quite fine with black people having abortions in fact, I went to school with these privileged people that live and vote a bizarre double-standard and faux-religious convictions.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah, but one of my points is that at least some cuntservatives don't really want to prevent abortions, despite public moralist protestations. They're quite fine with black people having abortions in fact, I went to school with these privileged people that live and vote a bizarre double-standard and faux-religious convictions.....
    Yeah, most of them probably agree with Bill "The Gambler" Bennett......


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    LOL Could Kavanaugh come off as a bigger asshole? like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum...

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    Miss Lindsey's meltdown was epic. Is he in love with Rapey Brett or what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    LOL Could Kavanaugh come off as a bigger asshole? like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum...
    Given what he and his family been subjected to... I believe his anger is quite justified. How should one react to such a shit-fest?

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    When President Donald Trump announced Kavanaugh’s selection to fill the Supreme Court vacancy, these were the first three sentences Kavanaugh uttered to introduce himself to the American public:

    'Mr. President, thank you. Throughout this process, I’ve witnessed firsthand your appreciation for the vital role of the American judiciary. No president has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.'
    The problem with lying is that if you do it a lot then people start to not believe you. This guy who is clearly desperate to get the job bullshits like a dodgy politician.

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    FAUX News contributor fired after calling Brett Kavanaugh's accusers 'lying skanks'


    Fox News contributor fired after calling Brett Kavanaugh's accusers 'lying skanks'
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    A Fox News contributor lost his gig at the network after attacking the women who accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault.

    Kevin Jackson went on a Twitter tirade Thursday during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings, attacking Christine Blasey Ford and the two other women who have gone public with claims about the Supreme Court justice nominee.

    “Feminists are their own worst enemies, and enemy of women, Also, they want men to NEVER be believed. I'm not succumbing,” he tweeted. “TO HELL with the notion that women must be believed no matter what. Lying skanks is what these 3 women are, and we ALL know more.”

    He also said Ford, a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University, has a “BE degree.”

    “It's not a Bachelors of Science, but a BOVINE EXCREMENT degree,” he wrote.

    Fox News told the Daily News that Jackson had been fired from his gig as a contributor following the tweets.

    “His comments on today’s hearings were reprehensible and do not reflect the values of FOX News,” a network spokesperson told the Daily News in a statement.

    Jackson, who has guest-hosted shows on “Outnumbered” and “Fox & Friends,” has recently appeared on the network to talk about “the Kaepernick Effect” after President Trump blasted NFL players who kneeled during the National Anthem in protest of police brutality. He also attacked Sen. Elizabeth Warren after she said that Trump won the presidential election because of “an ugly stew of racism.”

    "Leave it to a woman who faked herself as being an American Indian to tell Donald Trump about racism," he said on the show in April.

    Jackson did not immediately return a request for comment.

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    Given what he and his family been subjected to... I believe his anger is quite justified. How should one react to such a shit-fest?
    Like a senior judge instead of an actress accepting an Oscar?

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    Just look at how the women in his own goddamned cheering section reacted to his outbursts on the Senate floor.....



    Remember, those are the women who supposedly LIKE this guy, and they look horrified!
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    On the other hand, some Republican women continue to have their heads firmly planted up their own asses.....


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    Jesuit Catholics say it's time to withdraw Rapey Brett's nomination!

    And since he went to a Jesuit high school, that should really make him cry.... AGAIN.



    https://www.americamagazine.org/poli...n-be-withdrawn

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