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    American Bar Association: Delay Kavanaugh until FBI investigates assault allegations

    Washington (CNN) The American Bar Association is calling on the Senate Judiciary Committee to halt the consideration of President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh until an FBI investigation is completed into the sexual assault allegations that have roiled his nomination.

    In a strongly worded letter obtained by CNN Thursday, the organization said it is making the extraordinary request "because of the ABA's respect for the rule of law and due process under law," siding with concerns voiced by Senate Democrats since Christine Blasey Ford's decades-old allegations became public.

    "The basic principles that underscore the Senate's constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI," said Robert Carlson, president of the organization, in a Thursday night letter addressed to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein.

    "Each appointment to our nation's Highest Court (as with all others) is simply too important to rush to a vote," Carlson wrote. "Deciding to proceed without conducting additional investigation would not only have a lasting impact on the Senate's reputation, but it will also negatively affect the great trust necessary for the American people to have in the Supreme Court."

    The comments are striking because the organization gave Kavanaugh its highest rating of unanimous, "well-qualified" for the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh himself touted that rating at Thursday's emotionally-charged hearing where he denied Ford's sworn testimony that he attempted to rape her when they were teenagers.

    Kavanaugh noted he was "thoroughly vetted" by the ABA.
    "For 12 years, everyone who has appeared before me on the D.C. Circuit has praised my judicial temperament," Kavanaugh said Thursday. "That's why I have the unanimous, well qualified rating from the American Bar Association."

    In the letter, the ABA president says the Senate must remain "an institution that will reliably follow the law and not politics," saying a "thorough FBI investigation will demonstrate its commitment to a Supreme Court that is above reproach."
    Republicans have rejected Democratic calls for an FBI probe and are planning to hold a committee vote Friday before moving the nomination to the floor this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    On the other hand, some Republican women continue to have their heads firmly planted up their own asses.....

    Ha! Ha! Leave everything the same except make Kavanaugh a Democrat and the Dems would be defending him. Everything is so hyperpartisan right now it’s ridiculous. The days of negotiating anything are over. Everyone is going to hunker down on their side until something blows out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    "For 12 years, everyone who has appeared before me on the D.C. Circuit has praised my judicial temperament," Kavanaugh said Thursday. "That's why I have the unanimous, well qualified rating from the American Bar Association."
    'Everyone'?

    This is Trump language, a judge should be much more careful in their statements. It's like saying 'everyone who has met me for the last 12 years has liked me', even in the highly unlikely event of that being true you can't know if it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Ha! Ha! Leave everything the same except make Kavanaugh a Democrat and the Dems would be defending him. Everything is so hyperpartisan right now it’s ridiculous. The days of negotiating anything are over. Everyone is going to hunker down on their side until something blows out.
    There is a bit of truth in that when you remember the number of feminists that came out against Lewinski back in the day when Clinton was threatened. Bill Maher was saying that Clinton was the victim of a predatory woman and so on.

    That said the Democrats may not have the high ground but they aren't as far down the slope. For example Al Franken resigned over very little IMHO while Orange 45 has over 20 claims of sexual harassment against him.
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    If you look at the real core issue at the heart of this fight... fear of a potential change to the established legal president surrounding women's reproductive rights... ie, Roe vs Wade then once the competing "truths" were laid out all that was left to use emotions to weigh which truth was more compelling. Given the core issue... emotions are a critical component.

    Sadly, there's no pending actions imminently heading to the SCOTUS that threatens Roe vs Wade. The issue may not face a challenge anytime in the next decade or longer.

    But if you look at the despicable strategy that drove the Democrats to adopt this method of challenging this appointment... there's no "high ground" to be claimed. It's just shameful and an embarrassment to the nation.

    The confirmation process continues today with the Committee vote and a Senate floor vote will most likely occur next week. The only unknown will be if new "low ground" will be dug up...
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    Drunken rapist Bill O'Reilly is a fan of drunken rapist Rapey Brett. Who knew??


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    "Christian" Values Voters Summit turns into Rapey Brett fanclub rally



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Given what he and his family been subjected to... I believe his anger is quite justified. How should one react to such a shit-fest?
    Yeah well, too bad. He chose a public life as a political, connected, and well paid judge feasting on the "conservative-credential" cottage industry of social promotion. Yes, he was young, but he hung around some dubious, admittedly rapy assholes now being cast as victim-martyrs" as a "cancer-survivor/alcoholic/substance abuser" resulting from his own choices - boofuckinghooo!!!

    What about the Ford? What about the other women? I have a family member that was traumatized by someone with power and social standing, probably in much the same way she was - not full rape or sexual assault but enough to instill a lifelong scar.

    And have you looked at the guy's face? He "enjoys a couple of beers now and then?" Dude, he's a full blown high functioning alcoholic IMHO. His bloated and blotchy face=hard drinking of liquor over time....

    I would bet good money that he was half-lit yesterday during weepy histrionics...
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    "For 12 years, everyone who has appeared before me on the D.C. Circuit has praised my judicial temperament," Kavanaugh said Thursday. "That's why I have the unanimous, well qualified rating from the American Bar Association."

    The American Bar Association:

    American Bar Association calls for FBI investigation into Kavanaugh allegations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    What about the Ford? What about the other women? I have a family member that was traumatized by someone with power and social standing, probably in much the same way she was - not full rape or sexual assault but enough to instill a lifelong scar.

    And have you looked at the guy's face? He "enjoys a couple of beers now and then?" Dude, he's a full blown high functioning alcoholic IMHO. His bloated and blotchy face=hard drinking of liquor over time....

    I would bet good money that he was half-lit yesterday during weepy histrionics...
    Ms Ford... a 15 year old allowed to hang out at a posh Country Club in the DC area in the early 80's and attending parties with a bunch of rich privileged kids. Do you really want to hang that much credibility on the foggy memories of a teenager from that era 35 years ago..?

    Something probably happened to her... but I doubt Kavanaugh was involved. The judge wasn't "someone of power" at 17 years old.

    You keep referencing rape... no credible charge of rape has been raised. Do you really believe the crap raised by the porn star attorney is something worthy of any serious consideration..?

    I can't make any value judgement on anyone's drinking... don't have any appetite for hypocrisy today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    And have you looked at the guy's face? He "enjoys a couple of beers now and then?" Dude, he's a full blown high functioning alcoholic IMHO. His bloated and blotchy face=hard drinking of liquor over time....

    I would bet good money that he was half-lit yesterday during weepy histrionics...
    His crybaby moments did remind me a little bit of poor old John BONER.

    And that bastard was probably drunk every time he was in front of a camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Ms Ford... a 15 year old allowed to hang out at a posh Country Club in the DC area in the early 80's and attending parties with a bunch of rich privileged kids. Do you really want to hang that much credibility on the foggy memories of a teenager from that era 35 years ago..?

    Something probably happened to her... but I doubt Kavanaugh was involved. The judge wasn't "someone of power" at 17 years old.
    But his mother was. She was the local prosecutor at the time. Which certainly would be one reason why Dr. Ford (no relation) might have believed no charges would stick against Rapey Brett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    But his mother was. She was the local prosecutor at the time. Which certainly would be one reason why Dr. Ford (no relation) might have believed no charges would stick against Rapey Brett.
    If the uncorroborated allegations Dr Ford claims occurred and had been reported with a police report filed at the time in 1982, between a 15 yr old and 17 yr old... what charges would you imagine would have been levied by law enforcement/prosecutors, if any..?

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    She seems to be credible by any standards but who knows?

    I think the real issue with all of this is his reaction to the accusation and the fact that he has been fibbing all the time.

    Politics aside if watching that guy talk doesn’t set off your ‘twat’ radar then I’m sorry but you don’t have any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    If the uncorroborated allegations Dr Ford claims occurred and had been reported with a police report filed at the time in 1982, between a 15 yr old and 17 yr old... what charges would you imagine would have been levied by law enforcement/prosecutors, if any..?
    LOL Have you ever lived anywhere near Washington, DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Ms Ford... a 15 year old allowed to hang out at a posh Country Club in the DC area in the early 80's and attending parties with a bunch of rich privileged kids. Do you really want to hang that much credibility on the foggy memories of a teenager from that era 35 years ago..?

    Something probably happened to her... but I doubt Kavanaugh was involved. The judge wasn't "someone of power" at 17 years old.

    You keep referencing rape... no credible charge of rape has been raised. Do you really believe the crap raised by the porn star attorney is something worthy of any serious consideration..?

    I can't make any value judgement on anyone's drinking... don't have any appetite for hypocrisy today...
    Why would you "doubt" Kavanaugh was involved? I mean, as Sesh put it, his cunt radar is the size of a zeppelin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
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    But if you look at the despicable strategy that drove the Democrats to adopt this method of challenging this appointment... there's no "high ground" to be claimed. It's just shameful and an embarrassment to the nation.

    ...
    This sentence is the key reason why middle-of-the-road independent suburban women are running away in droves. Just saying. The presumption that upper middle class white guys can act like assholes, then go onto being absolved as "choirboys" is a bit maddening to some.

    You throw all this shit onto Ford, but ignore that Kavanaugh is a lying cunt in the best circumstances. She is the reluctant accuser and college professor and he's the supposed poised leader, and yet she looked very credible and he looked like a pissy little cunt that had his toys stolen in the testimony. Several of his Yale classmates have come out to call out his bullshit "I just drank a few beers here and there" bullshit lie every alcoholic ever spouts in the battle to absolve themselves of responsibilities and sin. Several have stated that he was often a blackout drunk and a belligerent cunt before napping...

    I think I forgot Kavanaugh was supposed to be just anointed without question, but the only thing is, people are denied security clearances and gov't employment everyday for accusations far less than his...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Why would you "doubt" Kavanaugh was involved? I mean, as Sesh put it, his cunt radar is the size of a zeppelin....
    My doubt is based on the vast information available and my personal assessment/opinion of what I've read and observed...

    Seems clear to me, the guy wasn't one of the cool kids of the 80's. Pretty much a typical nerd/jock type with no street smarts, who went to private schools and went on to college and law school and was smart enough to land jobs in the top end of the federal judicial world.

    Typical intellectual geek type... so yeah, a "twat" by our stringent standards here at the Roth Rock-n-Roll Cool Guy Political Think Tank™...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    She seems to be credible by any standards but who knows?

    I think the real issue with all of this is his reaction to the accusation and the fact that he has been fibbing all the time.

    Politics aside if watching that guy talk doesn’t set off your ‘twat’ radar then I’m sorry but you don’t have any.
    Dr Ford does seem quite credible based on her public testimony. I even sincerely believe her story about how this repressed memory of the assault surfaced during couples counseling... when her and her husband needed help sorting out a major disagreement on whether they should add a second front entryway/door onto their home... Most of us can totally relate to the crazy notions that come up in a home remodeling project!!

    Not so sure about his reactions to this... Seems fairly reasonable that most people would get frustrated and express anger while dealing with this circus directly. I would be more suspect of someone who maintained complete composure during that shit...

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    The accusations have been out there for a while and when he was responding to them before like on Fox TV he didn't respond like that. He started responding like that after Trump said he should be more emotional.

    He's angry out of entitlement, that he has been called out.

    Before anyone feels sorry for that douche remember he already has a lifetime appointment to the second highest court in the land.

    He believes in mandatory sentences for teenage drug offences but apparently trying to rape 15 year olds is ok when you are 17?

    This is interesting

    Six to eight weeks after Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her, Blasey went with her mother to a local Safeway market in Potomac, Maryland, and saw Mark Judge, a friend of Kavanaugh’s who was in the room with them during the alleged incident, she told the Senate Judiciary Committee during her Thursday morning testimony.

    Judge was working there at the time, arranging shopping carts, according to Blasey. She said she said hello, noting that the two had been previously friendly for some time.

    Judge “looked a little ill” and his face went pale, Blasey said.

    Earlier, she had said Judge was present in the room when Kavanaugh jumped on top of her, ran his hands over her body and placed a hand on her mouth to drown out her yells. She made eye contact with him twice, she told the Senate, and his laughter along with Kavanaugh was the strongest part of her recollection.


    The revelation matters because it would help pin Blasey’s claims to a specific point in time. She repeatedly referenced it in further responses during her testimony.

    When pressed by a prosecutor representing the all-male GOP membership of the committee about the specific date of the alleged assault, Blasey responded by saying, “If I knew when Mark Judge worked at the Potomac Safeway, I could be more helpful in that way.”

    GOP leadership in the Senate resisted calls to ask Judge to testify at the Thursday hearing along with Blasey and Kavanaugh.
    Investigation has now found that Judge was indeed working in Safeway that summer.

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    Here is an interesting factoid.

    The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary was founded in 1816 and has 21 members on it.

    In all that time there has never been a female Republican on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Here is an interesting factoid.

    The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary was founded in 1816 and has 21 members on it.

    In all that time there has never been a female Republican on it.
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    Quotes by the esteemed DSA broads :

    Judge Gorsuch has consistently valued legalisms over real lives. I won't support his nomination.

    It appears to be a case of revenge run amok.

    My husband is the first man to consistently be involved in the Senate Spouses group.

    You can see that I’m a little upset by this, the unfairness of it.

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    Noticed your little cartoon didn't include Joe Wilson. But anyway I want to try and stay way above the fray on this one because I don't know a damn thing about this guy. So let me just say this, you know why you got Trump?

    Because the leftists in this country took a good man and ruined his name. Let me refresh everybody's memory, Mitt Romney is Hitler.

    Mitt Romney is Jeff Flake. Judge Kavanaugh is Judge Roberts. But you leftists keep flinging shit on the people that it doesn't belong on and you get Trump.

    I don't give a damn about the scenarios that are to play out left or right on this one. I really don't care.

    But that shit does come back off the fan in the opposite direction. RE: ubama turd for eight years.

    This guy is going to be nominated regardless because of a turd you call Mitch McConnell. That's where this game ends.

    And for a lot of you,
    you know what it's gonna taste like...

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    By the way, when Ruth Ginsberg dies from over exercising, this what you're dealing with.

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    Probably shouldn't have shot your wad on Kavanaugh and Stormy Daniels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post

    Because the leftists in this country took a good man and ruined his name. Let me refresh everybody's memory, Mitt Romney is Hitler.
    Yeah that was totally out of order, Hitler loved his dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Yeah that was totally out of order, Hitler loved his dogs.
    Truth up your socialist brain...



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    Still remains one of the funniest fuckups in electoral campaigning ever...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    Truth up your socialist brain...


    It's not a great point because those 47% are mainly a mixture of old people and people that don't vote.

    Also his magical underwear should have squeezed his balls to warn him about the hidden recording...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's not a great point because those 47% are mainly a mixture of old people and people that don't vote.

    Also his magical underwear should have squeezed his balls to warn him about the hidden recording...
    It's exactly the point, sesh. Mitt Romney told the truth to some check writers about the 47% that would never vote for him.

    The press was trying to hide the fact that the Kenyan houseboy was/is a socialist and got a bunch of puppets, parrots, and progressives to bleat a Hitler comparison.

    While Mitt Romney was the opposite of ubama, Romney wasn't Hitler. And when the pendulum swung back the other way, the leftists got Trumped.

    There's plenty of videos everywhere showing the shit flingers distraught when the fan was pointed back at them.

    It's like Mitt Romney's magic underwear was crapping on Hillary's election night crowd...

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    And just so you get this through your socialist head:

    https://www.peaceandjustice.org/meet...ge-in-america/

    Meet the Worst Judge in America

    Now that Senate Democrats have deployed the so-called nuclear option and many of the president’s judicial nominations finally will move forward, the question arises: From a progressive perspective, who is the worst sitting federal judge in America today?

    My nominee, however, is Judge Diane S. Sykes, who sits on the 7th Circuit, which covers the states of Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin, and is headquartered in Chicago.

    In a 154-page split 2-1 decision handed down Nov. 8, Sykes authored the majority opinion in which she invoked the doctrine of corporate personhood—which she characterized as being “reinvigorated” by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision on campaign finance law—to invalidate the contraception mandate of Obamacare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zahzoo View Post
    typical intellectual geek type... So yeah, a "twat" by our stringent standards here at the roth rock-n-roll cool guy political think tank™...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Oh FFS.

    This poor victim is worth literally 10s if not 100s of millions, if the allegations weren't true he could have sued the women to fuck but he couldn't because he is guilty. He should be in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    It's exactly the point, sesh. Mitt Romney told the truth to some check writers about the 47% that would never vote for him.
    You miss my point, those people don't vote for anyone so don't matter.

    Also even if Obama is a socialist he certainly wasn't able to do anything socialist when he was president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    If you look at the real core issue at the heart of this fight... fear of a potential change to the established legal president surrounding women's reproductive rights... ie, Roe vs Wade then once the competing "truths" were laid out all that was left to use emotions to weigh which truth was more compelling. Given the core issue... emotions are a critical component.

    Sadly, there's no pending actions imminently heading to the SCOTUS that threatens Roe vs Wade. The issue may not face a challenge anytime in the next decade or longer.

    But if you look at the despicable strategy that drove the Democrats to adopt this method of challenging this appointment... there's no "high ground" to be claimed. It's just shameful and an embarrassment to the nation.

    The confirmation process continues today with the Committee vote and a Senate floor vote will most likely occur next week. The only unknown will be if new "low ground" will be dug up...
    We used to respect due process in this country. Now it’s hyper-partisan politics and do anything to win. This of course weakens our republic which was designed to protect the individual from the mob.

    In short. Kavenaugh is guilty because he’s not a member of our party. Enjoy the witch hunt. He’s been tried in the media and found guilty with no credible evidence or any due process. All I can say is if this is where we want to go, don’t complain when an angry mob says you are guilty and there is no due process to protect you.

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