Turns Out It Was A White Rethuglicon All Along

[Kristy]

Cesar Altieri Sayoc has been arrested in connection with the suspicious packages that were sent across to various liberal personalities and CNN. Sayoc was named as the suspect by NY1’s Myles Miller. Sayoc is 54 years old and is a resident of Aventura, Florida. Sayoc is originally from the Sheepshead Bay neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York.


Making America terrorist again

Sayoc has been arrested several times in Broward County, Florida, dating back to 1991, court records show. His most recent arrest in Broward was in 2014. In 2002, he was charged with making a bomb threat in Dade County, Florida. He was sentenced to one year of probation. Prosecutors agreed to withhold adjudication of the felony charge, meaning it was dismissed after he completed the probation in 2003.

In 1991, Sayoc was charged with third-degree grand theft, a felony. He pleaded guilty that same year and was sentenced to two years of probation. In 1994, his mother sought a domestic violence injunction against Sayoc, court records show.

Sayoc was arrested on drug charges in 2004. He was accused of possession and sale of steroids, along with possession of a controlled substance without a prescription, tampering with evidence, filing fraudulent tax returns, criminal use of personal ID info and possession or unlawful issue of a driver’s license. He pleaded guilty that same year and was sentenced to 18 months of probation.



Story here:
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/cesar-sayoc/

[FORD]

A Trumpsucking terrorist from Florida?? Who could have ever predicted that?

Wonder if Jerksmear knows this asshole?

Weird picture of the dude BTW. He looks like a skinhead Paul McCartney.

[FORD]

here's the terrorist's van. Can't imagine how this fool didn't get somebody's attention before now....

[FORD]

Apparently this wackjob loves Cheeto so much he went to his pathetic inauguration......

[twonabomber]

"Native Americans For Trump."

He looks Native American in the inauguration pic. Not so much the first pic.

How did most of those packages get delivered when the stamps weren't canceled? No markings on most of them. Wasn't there a change in Postal Service policy sometime after 9/11 or the anthrax scares that packages with a bunch of stamps on them and just dropped in a collection box wouldn't be processed or sent? And the one that has "postage due" on it, I'm pretty sure they use a standard sticker and not a Post-It note.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but something isn't right.

[Kristy]

His Shitter account (get it while it's still good)

https://twitter.com/hardrock2016

[FORD]

[FORD]

His claims of being a "Native American" are probably bullshit. This is what a spokesman for the Seminole Tribe said....

Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner, alluding to the many social media profiles that appear to be associated with Sayoc, flatly rejected the assertion that Sayoc is in any way affiliated with the tribe.

“We can find no evidence that Cesar Altieri, Caesar Altieri, Caesar Altieri Sayoc, Ceasar Altieri Randazzo (Facebook) or Julus Cesar Milan (Twitter) is or was a member or employee of the Seminole Tribe of Florida, or is or was an employee of Seminole Gaming or Hard Rock International,” Bitner said in an email. “At this time, we cannot verify if he is or was an employee of a vendor company.”

While many of his aliases would imply he's Italian, so far the only thing actually known about his ethnic background is that his father migrated from the Philippines in the 50s. Assuming that actually was his father. Looking at those eyes, I say it's entirely possible that his mama was getting busy backstage at a Beatles concert. Hate to put that on poor Paul, but the resemblance is kinda freaky......

[Terry]

Once I saw the Sunrise connection to Debbie Wasserman Schultz in the paper Wednesday morning, even before they caught him I knew the mail bomber had to be from Florida.

Just had to be.

[Nickdfresh]

He had decapitated puppets in his van!

[Kristy]

[Nitro Express]

His claims of being a "Native American" are probably bullshit. This is what a spokesman for the Seminole Tribe said....



While many of his aliases would imply he's Italian, so far the only thing actually known about his ethnic background is that his father migrated from the Philippines in the 50s. Assuming that actually was his father. Looking at those eyes, I say it's entirely possible that his mama was getting busy backstage at a Beatles concert. Hate to put that on poor Paul, but the resemblance is kinda freaky......

Well the dude was an exotic male dancer. That means he likes attention. He's got plenty of that now. Might get some more attention in prison and it won't be ladies reaching down his pants.

[twonabomber]

[FORD]

I'm sure this fucking tool would have got around to threatening Bernie eventually. And might have, considering his bombs were still being found in the mail (to Borey Crooker & others) even after he was already in custody.

While he was obviously inspired by the FAUX/Trump talking point enemies list, he also was targeting some ACTUAL liberals. Apparently sent some threatening tweets to Jamie Peck from the Majority Report, threatening to drag her through a Florida swamp with one of those air boats and let the gators eat her (or words to that effect)

[FORD]

nytimes.com
Gunman Identified in Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting; At Least 4 Dead




PITTSBURGH — At least four people were dead and six injured after a gunman opened fire during a service at a synagogue on Saturday morning, city officials said.

Two law enforcement officials identified the suspect as Robert D. Bowers, 46. The officials requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation.

Social media activity linked to Mr. Bowers suggested a history of virulent anti-Semitism, filled with slurs and references to anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

Erika Strassburger, the city councilwoman for the district that includes the synagogue, the Tree of Life Congregation, said Mr. Bowers surrendered to the police after being barricaded in the building and was taken to the hospital.

Wendell D. Hissrich, Pittsburgh’s public safety director, said four police officers were among the injured. He said those injured were in serious or critical conditions and taken to three hospitals.

He would not respond to questions at a news conference about how many people had died.

His voice catching, Mr. Hissrich said: “It’s a very horrific crime scene. It’s one of the worst that I’ve seen, and I’ve been on some plane crashes. It’s very bad.”

He said the federal authorities would lead the investigation into the shooting, which he said was being treated as a hate crime.

In January, an account an account linked to Mr. Bowers was created on Gab, a social network that bills itself as a haven for free speech. The app, which grew out of claims of anti-conservative bias on Facebook and Twitter, is a popular gathering place for alt-right activists and white nationalists whose views are unwelcome on other services.


Early members included the right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulous and Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website.

Mr. Bowers’s Gab feed was dominated by references to Jews and Judaism. Several weeks ago, Mr. Bowers’ account posted a link to the website of HIAS, a Jewish nonprofit organization that helps resettle refugees, which was planning a shabbat ceremony for refugees in locations around the country. The caption read: “Why hello there HIAS! You like to bring in hostile invaders to dwell among us?”

And hours before the shooting, the account posted again: “HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I’m going in.”

On Saturday, after Mr. Bowers was named as a suspect in the shooting, Gab confirmed that the name on the account, which was verified, matched the name of the alleged gunman.

The company took down the account, and released a statement saying it was cooperating with law enforcement. “Gab unequivocally disavows and condemns all acts of terrorism and violence,” the statement read.

President Trump said on Twitter that “events in Pittsburgh are far more devastating than originally thought.”

Mr. Trump later addressed reporters at Joint Base Andrews. “It’s a terrible, terrible thing what’s going on with hate in our country and frankly all over the world, and something has to be done,” he said. “The results are very devastating, you’re seeing the numbers come in.”

He added that if the temple “had some kind of protection” that “it could have been a much different situation.”

Gov. Tom Wolf of Pennsylvania said in a statement that “these senseless acts of violence are not who we are as Americans.”

“We must all pray and hope for no more loss of life,” he said. “But we have been saying ‘this one is too many’ for far too long. Dangerous weapons are putting our citizens in harm’s way.”

Joseph Miksch, a University of Pittsburgh spokesman, said three individuals were in surgery at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Presbyterian hospital, and a fourth was awaiting surgery. One person was treated and released earlier from the hospital.

Another person was in surgery at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Presbyterian Mercy hospital. All of the victims had gunshot wounds, Mr. Miksch said.

Tree of Life is in Squirrel Hill, a quiet, middle-class neighborhood in the heart of Pittsburgh’s Jewish community.

Mark Joel Mahler, the rabbi emeritus at another Pittsburgh synagogue, was leaving Torah study at Rodef Shalom, about a mile from Tree of Life, when he learned of the shooting from one of his children, who works as an emergency room nurse.

The rabbi at Rodef Shalom put the synagogue on lockdown.

Unable to do anything else, the congregation went on with the Saturday morning service, praying the mi sheberach, the prayer for healing, for those being gunned down just a short walk away.

For all the congregation knew, Mr. Mahler said, Rodef Shalom might have been the next target.

“The service continued,” he said. “There was a pall over over everyone. No question.”


Mr. Mahler said that on Saturday mornings there are three services at the the Tree of Life, one led by the Tree of Life congregation, another led by the Or L’Simcha congregation and another led by the New Light Congregation.

Rabbi Jeffrey Myers, who leads the congregation, said in a blog post in July that the government was unable to pass important laws, such as gun control, to protect citizens.

“Despite continuous calls for sensible gun control and mental health care, our elected leaders in Washington knew that it would fade away in time,” he wrote. “Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in the midterm elections, I fear that that the status quo will remain unchanged, and school shootings will resume.”

Brandeis University researchers reported in a 2017 study that the Squirrel Hill neighborhood has “historically been the center of Jewish life in Greater Pittsburgh.”

About 26 percent of the Pittsburgh area’s Jewish households are in Squirrel Hill, while another 31 percent of Jewish households are largely located in neighborhoods around there, according to the report, which was carried out on behalf of the Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh.

About 48 percent of Jewish children in greater Pittsburgh live in Squirrel Hill, according to the study.

Shortly before 11 a.m., residents could still hear loud pops of gunfire. The authorities told residents to stay inside.

Ben Opie, 55, who can see the synagogue from his backyard, said his wife was about to leave the house on Saturday morning to do some volunteer work when SWAT officers approached their home and said there was an active shooter in the synagogue.

“They chased my wife inside,” he said. “They just said get in the house.”

In New York and Los Angeles, the police said there was no “nexus” between the shooting in Pittsburgh and those cities but that the authorities were taking precautionary measures until more is known about the shooting.

“The N.Y.P.D. is deploying heavy weapons teams, including the officers from the Critical Response Command and the Strategic Response Team, to houses of worship across the City,” the New York police said.

Christina Caron, Jeffery C. Mays, Kevin Roose, Julie Turkewitz, Ali Winston and Mihir Zaveri contributed reporting from New York. Adam Goldman contributed reporting from Washington.

[FORD]

To be fair though, this murderous Nazi fuck terrorist was NOT a Trumpsucker. Apparently the Orange Imbecile wasn't bigoted enough for him......

[Kristy]

Wow. He was white, male, and middle-aged

What were the odds?

[Terry]

Lunatic fringe.

[Nitro Express]

Lunatic fringe.

Pretty much. There is plenty of anti-Zionist rhetoric blaming Jews for our political and banking problems. I read an article not to long ago that anti-semitism is on the rise in Europe and here in North America. People need a scapegoat and there is plenty of scapegoating going on. It will only get worse as the divide between rich and poor widens and economic conditions for people who used to be middle class worsens. This stuff goes in cycles. It never disappears.

[Nitro Express]

All I can say is observe the insanity. Embrace it! Write great rock songs about it.

[Terry]

Pretty much. There is plenty of anti-Zionist rhetoric blaming Jews for our political and banking problems. I read an article not to long ago that anti-semitism is on the rise in Europe and here in North America. People need a scapegoat and there is plenty of scapegoating going on. It will only get worse as the divide between rich and poor widens and economic conditions for people who used to be middle class worsens. This stuff goes in cycles. It never disappears.

It just seems so...I dunno. So antiquated to blame the Jews for our political and banking problems.

I do tend to think the conditions for the white working class in America are such where you have a lot of people who aren't gainfully employed, and a lot of middle-aged whites who are looking for scapegoats for where they as a class find themselves these days. There are a lot of reasons for this. Outsourcing manufacturing, while great for corporate bottom lines, hasn't been helpful. People living longer lives while not having the resources to retire until they're basically half-dead is another. To be sure, some of this is due to their own lack of planning, but the income disparity and lack of decent jobs can't be laid entirely on the shoulders of the white working class.

And there are, sadly, plenty of functional nutters out there. Nutters with access to bomb-making materials and firearms.

[Nitro Express]

Oh there are a bunch of anti-Jew conspiracy theories. Much along the same lines you heard a century ago. The international Jewish bankers. There is a lot of that. What you have to remember is it’s not across the board. It’s a niche but it’s a sizable niche. The truth is the Jewish lobby does have a lot of influence in the US. Big investment banks like Goldman Sachs are ran by Jews. People mention old money like the Rothschilds all the time. Of course the reality is the Jewish community is a mixed bag. Lot’s of different types and as the joke goes, seven Jews, seven opinions. I think you will see a rise in anti-semitism both in Europe and here in America. They will be scape goat for the same reason they were in the past. Jews are industrious people and tend to end up in powerful positions. People get jealous of them and the bad behavior of some Jews give people an excuse to attack Jews.

All this stuff seems to run in cycles. It’s human nature and nothing changes because we never learn.

[Sgt Schultz]

Only retarded leftists think this is white.....

[Nickdfresh]

Only retarded leftists think this is white.....

I seriously think you are autistic...

[Sgt Schultz]

He's 1/2 Filipino.

[Kristy]

He's 1/2 Filipino.

You're 100% troll.

[Nickdfresh]

He's 1/2 Filipino.

SFW? He's still an American that was born here. What do two full blooded Filipino girls have to do with that? And it's hard to say what he is because this guy apparently lies about his background a lot...

[Sgt Schultz]

You're 100% troll.

[Seshmeister]

It's like something happened in 2016 that has encouraged a huge increase in anti-semitic attacks.

[Kristy]

Oooooooh, can I be next? Since we are puttig up graphics and statistics here's one that slave SESH overlooks:


Which is cool, because he thinks that the porn on his site isn't porn at all and that porn itself has no outside social consequences.

[Terry]

Oh there are a bunch of anti-Jew conspiracy theories. Much along the same lines you heard a century ago. The international Jewish bankers. There is a lot of that. What you have to remember is it’s not across the board. It’s a niche but it’s a sizable niche. The truth is the Jewish lobby does have a lot of influence in the US. Big investment banks like Goldman Sachs are ran by Jews. People mention old money like the Rothschilds all the time. Of course the reality is the Jewish community is a mixed bag. Lot’s of different types and as the joke goes, seven Jews, seven opinions. I think you will see a rise in anti-semitism both in Europe and here in America. They will be scape goat for the same reason they were in the past. Jews are industrious people and tend to end up in powerful positions. People get jealous of them and the bad behavior of some Jews give people an excuse to attack Jews.

All this stuff seems to run in cycles. It’s human nature and nothing changes because we never learn.

And as overt as Trump is about his own racism, because Trump allowed his daughter to marry a Jew apparently Trump isn't racist enough for many white nationalists.

That Kushner married into the Trump family drives both Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller nuts.

[FORD]

Stephen Miller is Jewish himself, though he is the dictionary definition of a "Self-Hating Jew", especially considering how he goes out of his way to look and act like Josef Goebbels.

His own family members are understandably embarrassed by him, of course.....

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...bers-have-some

[Nitro Express]

And as overt as Trump is about his own racism, because Trump allowed his daughter to marry a Jew apparently Trump isn't racist enough for many white nationalists.

That Kushner married into the Trump family drives both Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller nuts.

I never bought into Trump being racist. To be honest. I don't think he cares what color or race anyone is as long as they get the job done. Trump's problem is he doesn't define what he means very well. He will say people crossing the border are bad people. What he really means is the drug and human traffickers and such. Then that just gives his political enemies something to smack him with.

Trump is basically an asshole from New York. Loud mouthed and brash. He has a disruptive personality and people don't like that. Also we seem to be living in a time where everyone is looking for a scapegoat to piss on. Trump is a popular pissing target.

[Nitro Express]

Stephen Miller is Jewish himself, though he is the dictionary definition of a "Self-Hating Jew", especially considering how he goes out of his way to look and act like Josef Goebbels.

His own family members are understandably embarrassed by him, of course.....

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...bers-have-some

Those have always existed. They are called self-hating Jews and during the Nazi era they were called Ratten Juden. Apparently George Soros was one and admitted it during a 60 Minutes interview.

[Terry]

I never bought into Trump being racist. To be honest. I don't think he cares what color or race anyone is as long as they get the job done. Trump's problem is he doesn't define what he means very well. He will say people crossing the border are bad people. What he really means is the drug and human traffickers and such. Then that just gives his political enemies something to smack him with.

Trump is basically an asshole from New York. Loud mouthed and brash. He has a disruptive personality and people don't like that. Also we seem to be living in a time where everyone is looking for a scapegoat to piss on. Trump is a popular pissing target.

It may well be possible that Trump simply doesn't have any use for anybody - regardless of color/ethnicity - who won't either line his pockets/give him something he wants (votes, accolades. etc.), affirm how wonderful he is or both.

Should that be the case, I suppose an argument could be made that Trump isn't bigoted in that he doesn't specifically target ethnic groups because of their ethnicity per se, rather that they have no use for him. I mean, he certainly did enjoy the company of Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson and more recently Kanye West.

The idea that Trump is being pissed on unfairly, as if his words and actions had nothing to do with any of it and he has been unfairly scapegoated...well, you're welcome to raise that idea up the flagpole. Suffice to say I won't salute it. Surely, you're not suggesting that his disruptive personality alone is the primary reason he is disliked by so many, as opposed to the specifics of what he has both said and done. I can assure you, were it Mike Pence or Jeb Bush saying and doing the things Trump has without the Trump personality attached, the anger would be just as fervent.

Trump is an asshole from New York. He enjoys being despised. The hatred of others toward him is something he covets just as much as the endless praise he craves. As long as people are talking about him, he doesn't care much either way, provided the cash is rolling in. Being from the region, those of us from the area heard all about Trump going back nearly 40 years. We didn't just find out who he was when The Apprentice started airing 14 years ago. We knew full well about the nature of his business dealings, and the character of [Trump] long before anybody had even heard the name Obama or dreamed a black man would win the presidency in our lifetimes. Any attempts at soft pedaling regarding who Trump is today for those of us who have been more than slightly acquainted with the guy since the early 1980s are a Fool's Errand: historical revisionism ain't gonna work.

[Seshmeister]

I don't remember there being much said about this at the time but only four (James K. Polk, Woodrow Wilson, Richard Nixon and Donald Trump) presidents have won election despite losing their state of residence.

Trump lost New York spectacularly.

[FORD]

You could count Al Gore in that list. When the numbers were finally actually counted, he WON Florida. But he lost Tennessee because of NRA propaganda.

[Sgt Schultz]

I don't remember there being much said about this at the time but only four (James K. Polk, Woodrow Wilson, Richard Nixon and Donald Trump) presidents have won election despite losing their state of residence.

Trump lost New York spectacularly.

[Nickdfresh]

Um, every blue area is a major city area with about 80% or more of the population. Places that reside in rural areas are as hick-filled as any place in the south...

Again, another idiotic picture-pop-up book mentality post that has no meaning...

[Kristy]

Just like Colorado. Drive 10 minutes out of Denver and its Redneck Magaville.