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    The Trump Meltdown is Beginning

    Mueller Team Has ‘Gone Absolutely Nuts,’ Trump Says, Resuming Attacks on Russia Inquiry

    By Maggie Haberman, Michael S. Schmidt and Eileen Sullivan
    Nov. 15, 2018

    WASHINGTON — Fresh off three days of private meetings with his personal lawyers, President Trump renewed his attacks on Thursday on the special counsel investigation, calling it “A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

    The barrage, launched on Twitter, ended a period of relative quiet by the president about the investigation, which has ensnared some of his former aides.


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    The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don’t...

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    ....care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won’t even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

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    The president returned on Sunday from a trip to Paris and faced criticism at home for his decision to skip a solemn visit to an American cemetery in France, part of events to mark 100 years since the end of World War I.

    When he was back at the White House, Mr. Trump met with his personal lawyers in private meetings and worked to draft answers to questions posed by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. Mueller’s team has been investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election and any possible ties to the Trump campaign.

    For months, the president’s legal team and aides have pleaded with him to avoid writing Twitter posts critical of Mr. Mueller, particularly as presidents in previous administrations have respected a wall between the White House and the Justice Department on ongoing criminal investigations. Mr. Trump has long complained publicly and privately about what he believes to be Mr. Mueller’s conflicts of interest, despite a Justice Department review and conclusion last year that Mr. Mueller had none. But by Thursday morning, the president renewed his personal attacks on Mr. Mueller and said universities would someday study these conflicts.


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    Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of Democrat thugs have done to destroy people. Why is he protecting Crooked Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page & her lover, Peter S, and all of his friends on the other side?

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    But it was unclear what may have motivated Mr. Trump’s Twitter posts on Thursday morning.

    Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, was spotted by an ABC News crew on Monday en route to see Mr. Mueller’s team. Mr. Cohen has pleaded guilty to a string of crimes, and said under oath that his client ordered him to make hush payments to an adult-film actress claiming in 2016 that she had had an affair with Mr. Trump.

    Several of Mr. Trump’s former aides have struck deals with the special counsel team in exchange for their cooperation in the investigation. This week, Jerome Corsi, a friend of Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime informal adviser to the president, announced that he expected to be charged with lying to federal investigators after two months of cooperation with the special counsel team.

    Mr. Mueller, whose appointment did not require approval from the Senate, has sought to ask the president about any possible coordination with Russia during the campaign and whether he intended to obstruct the investigation.

    The special counsel team has negotiated over a possible presidential interview for nearly a year. After months of back-and-forth with the president’s personal lawyers, Mr. Mueller’s team agreed to accept answers in writing about possible conspiracy with Russia. On obstruction matters, investigators acknowledged that issues of executive privilege could complicate the prospect of an interview, but they did not abandon pursuit of it.

    The president’s lawyers are said to believe that the special counsel investigation is winding down, though Mr. Mueller’s team has given no public indication about its timeline.

    Mr. Trump’s lawyers have blanched at the idea of the president sitting down and being interviewed by Mr. Mueller and his team out of concern that the president might make a false statement. Lying to federal investigators is a felony that could carry up to five years in prison.

    Mr. Trump’s comments on Thursday renewed concerns on Capitol Hill that the president could move to fire Mr. Mueller and end his investigation.

    Democrats and a handful of Republicans are pushing for Congress to vote before the end of their session next month on legislation providing job protections to special counsels like Mr. Mueller.

    Two lawmakers — Senator Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, who is retiring at the end of the year, and Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware — attempted to push through the bill on Wednesday, but they were blocked by Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, who said he had never heard Mr. Trump say he wanted to shut down the investigation. On Thursday, Mr. Flake and Mr. Coons pledged to continue asking for the Senate to consider the proposal until Mr. McConnell agreed to allow a vote.

    Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, joined the effort on Thursday morning, asserting that Mr. McConnell was in denial about Mr. Trump’s intentions.

    “There is too much at stake to sit around and wait until the president crosses the line, creating the constitutional crisis we all abhor,” Mr. Schumer said.

    Mr. Trump has previously sought to fire Mr. Mueller. In June 2017, Mr. Trump told the White House counsel to take steps to remove Mr. Mueller because of the perceived conflicts. Mr. Trump cited a dispute with Mr. Mueller several years ago about golf fees at a Trump golf club in Virginia where Mr. Mueller was a member; Mr. Mueller’s interview with Mr. Trump to return to his old job as F.B.I. director, which occurred the day before he was appointed special counsel; and Mr. Mueller’s work for a law firm that previously represented Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The White House counsel refused, and the president dropped the issue.

    Mr. Trump has focused his ire on a several prosecutors working for Mr. Mueller, but the special counsel’s team is broader. It includes F.B.I. agents working under Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director chosen by the president, and other Justice Department officials.

    As the president has renewed his offensive on Mr. Mueller, critics of his administration argue that Mr. Trump’s recent appointment to lead the Justice Department and oversee the Russia investigation has conflicts of interest of his own.

    When Mr. Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions last week, he named a loyalist, Matthew G. Whitaker, to replace him in an acting capacity. Mr. Whitaker has been publicly critical of the Mueller inquiry but now has oversight of the special counsel.

    Nicholas Fandos and Adam Goldman contributed reporting.

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    Really? SgtSchitz? That's the best you have? Another retard meme that makes no sense? Trump has learned something from his lawyers regarding the Mueller investigation, and he's clearly in a shittier-than-normal mood. Skipping cemetery visits for the veterans he's fucked over and generally making himself look like a complete national embarrassment of a fucktard on the international stage. But good luck with your circle-jerk, you uneducated douche...

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    Mueller reminds me of the old prospector digging a claim for years saying,"Today is the day!" Well hell it's Trump. You would think he would find real gold but it's all gold painted plastic.
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    You keep saying that and people keep admitting crimes and being convicted.

    It's not a witch hunt if there really are witches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post


    Mueller reminds me of the old prospector digging a claim for years saying,"Today is the day!" Well hell it's Trump. You would think he would find real gold but it's all gold painted plastic.
    Yeah, that would explain Trump's great mood after three days of conferring with his lawyers. Do you actually pay attention to anything?

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    Not to mention his sudden urge to kiss Jellyfish Pelosi's ass, now that she's presumed (at least by her) to be taking over the House of Representatives again.....


    Sure Nancy.... we can work together. Do tremendous things. Really bigly things.... just don't investigate me with all that Fake News Witch Hunt stuff, alright??

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    I think he's trolling Pelosi.

    Marcia Fudge is supposedly running for speaker but I don't know if she's the right person for the job.
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    It's strategically obvious that supporting a weak leader of your primary opposition is far more advantageous than gambling that the house may elect someone with some real game... who do more Democrats oppose within their own party..? Nancy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    I think he's trolling Pelosi.

    Marcia Fudge is supposedly running for speaker but I don't know if she's the right person for the job.
    You give him way too much credit. He's having a Pelosi-lovefest right now because she doesn't want to auto-impeach. His other options are worse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's strategically obvious that supporting a weak leader of your primary opposition is far more advantageous than gambling that the house may elect someone with some real game... who do more Democrats oppose within their own party..? Nancy...
    LMFAO!1 You really think Trump thinks "strategically"? I guess the Mueller-bash tweets might contradict that theory a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    You give him way too much credit. He's having a Pelosi-lovefest right now because she doesn't want to auto-impeach. His other options are worse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You keep saying that and people keep admitting crimes and being convicted.

    It's not a witch hunt if there really are witches.
    Crimes that have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Oh we found some people Trump hired cheated on their taxes. Nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah, that would explain Trump's great mood after three days of conferring with his lawyers. Do you actually pay attention to anything?
    Who pays attention to a stale moldy sandwich that has been laying around for two years? This whole investigation started with Russian collusion and they found nothing. Who knows what it's about now. Last I heard it was about paying off a porn star.

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    Haha! I would say getting the Democrats to arguing amongst themselves and divide them is a pretty good strategy. Infrastructure makes perfect sense. It's needed and with all the pork involved you can buy allies on it and create a lot of jobs. Pelosi and Trump will get the legacy they both desperately want. They can ride off into the sunset laughing their asses off after running up even more of the national debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Schultz View Post
    Nice. Seeing you live rent free in your parent's garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Who pays attention to a stale moldy sandwich that has been laying around for two years? This whole investigation started with Russian collusion and they found nothing. Who knows what it's about now. Last I heard it was about paying off a porn star.
    Doing a bit of a deeper dig on this recently I think you are going to be shocked at just how far this could go.

    Trump appears to be absolutely up to his ears in Russian mob money going back to the late 80s. Hundreds of millions in laundering making cash sales in Trump tower and elsewhere to Russian mob guys via offshore holding companies.. Russians have also been making multi million donations to both GOP and the NRA. This stuff is all public knowledge you can check yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Doing a bit of a deeper dig on this recently I think you are going to be shocked at just how far this could go.

    Trump appears to be absolutely up to his ears in Russian mob money going back to the late 80s. Hundreds of millions in laundering making cash sales in Trump tower and elsewhere to Russian mob guys via offshore holding companies.. Russians have also been making multi million donations to both GOP and the NRA. This stuff is all public knowledge you can check yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Doing a bit of a deeper dig on this recently I think you are going to be shocked at just how far this could go.

    Trump appears to be absolutely up to his ears in Russian mob money going back to the late 80s. Hundreds of millions in laundering making cash sales in Trump tower and elsewhere to Russian mob guys via offshore holding companies.. Russians have also been making multi million donations to both GOP and the NRA. This stuff is all public knowledge you can check yourself.
    You don't make a living in real estate and construction in New York City and not deal with the mob. Real Estate often is purchased to launder money. It's the nature of the business and the nature of New York City. Everyone knows Trump rubbed shoulders with the mob as did the Kennedy family where the Chicago mob helped get JFK elected. Lot's of people on both sides of the isle have that kind of dirt on them. Hell the governor of New York state comes from a mob family. The whole original point of the investigation was did the Russians tamper with the election to give Trump a win? So far there is nothing and we are going to be three years into this. To me it looks like a bunch of Washington insiders scared an outsider won the presidency and they fear going to jail for the crimes they have been involved in. Nobody is talking about Uranium One. It's all red herrings and making a threat to other billionaires who might run for office. If you do without our blessing we will do to you, your family, and friends what we are doing to Trump. I'm more concerned with the entrenched criminals in Washington than I am about Russians mobsters or Donald Trump. Did anyone involved in the 2008 sub-prime mortgage scandal ever go to jail for their crimes? Nope. The government bailed them out. I hear all this noise about Donald Trump but I don't see big political or financial criminals going to jail. Until I do and until I actually see some real justice out of the Justice Department it's all just political noise to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The whole original point of the investigation was did the Russians tamper with the election to give Trump a win? So far there is nothing and we are going to be three years into this.
    Seems pretty clear.

    Russian hackers allegedly made their first attempt to hack the emails of Hillary Clinton and her campaign staff on the same day Donald Trump publicly asked them to.

    Documents released by Special Counsel Robert Mueller in connection with the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers, claim the hackers targeted a domain used by Ms Clinton’s personal office “on or about July 27 2016”.
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    LOL Nitro, you believed every conspiracy except the one taking place in front of your eyes, it's just wishful thinking at this point. Nothing to see here:

    Head of Russia’s Military Spy Agency Dies After Illness
    President Vladimir Putin speaks with officers of Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U., at its 100th anniversary celebration in Moscow, on Nov. 2.


    By Neil MacFarquhar and Michael Schwirtz
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    MOSCOW — The head of Russia’s military intelligence agency, who oversaw the hacking of the Democratic Party’s computers during the United States’ 2016 presidential election, died on Wednesday after a long illness, Russian state news agencies reported.

    Col. Gen. Igor V. Korobov, 63, had not been seen in public for months and was notably absent from a ceremony on Nov. 2 marking the 100th anniversary of the military intelligence agency, known as the G.R.U.

    Historically a secretive, little-understood agency, the G.R.U. under General Korobov emerged as Russia’s primary tool of global disruption. Mr. Korobov was sanctioned by the Treasury Department for the release of emails stolen from the Democratic Party in support of Donald Trump’s campaign in 2016.
    ...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/w...elligence.html
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    And now... with the temporary distraction of the week long Poppypalooza finally over, Cheeto is ready to resume his meltdown....


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    And of course, about a half hour after that last insane tweet, an inbred MAGAtt minion called in a bomb threat to CNN.

    The biggest security threat to the USA right now? Let's just call it "Code Orange"

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    I always thought that Ramones video was a very clever way to do a low budget video.

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    Nevermind ImOrangement... Cheeto is making his own case for the 25th Amendment removal on the grounds of being batshit crazy......


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    Looks like Gen. Kelly might be on his way out - you think things are going shitty in the White House now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Looks like Gen. Kelly might be on his way out - you think things are going shitty in the White House now?
    Well, the tone starts at the top.

    No senior staffer or Cabinet Member is going to bring a lasting sense of discipline inside the White House unless President Trump desires that discipline. Whenever a Cabinet Member, or a Senior Advisor or a Senior Staff Member has departed, the prognostication that "things are REALLY going to be fucked up now that THIS person is leaving" is trotted out. The problem is, this White House has been chaotic - partly from being stuffed with 2nd and 3rd rate hambones, partly from the personality of the President himself - from Day One. I haven't seen a downward trajectory over the last two years in terms of quality or performance due to various departures, because both those characteristics were flatlined from the first day.
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    Everyone including Trump keeps going on about collusion.

    Collusion wouldn't be the crime in any case, the crime would be conspiracy.

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    For what it's worth I wish someone would call out Trump on his $40 million cost claim. The real figure is closer to $27 million but in any case Manafort has had $46 million seized so either way it's actually in profit.

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