More VH talk from Eddie Trunk

[twonabomber]

I did not know Bassplayer's tech, Kevin Dugan, grew up just outside of Cleveland. Checked his FB page and he hasn't posted in a while.

If it is a package tour, with VH and Wolfgang's band, who else is on the bill? Tremonti? No way VH has someone on the bill that could potentially blow them off the stage. See KWS, the Marley kid, and Kool and the Gang.

[ZahZoo]

Possibly, but I would be interested in knowing who the (shall remain) nameless "industry insider" he alludes too is. Sammy? I haven't paid much attention to Trunk but thought he and Sam were slap-and-tickle buddies...

He's repeated stuff verbatim that was posted at VHLinks... I'd venture he doesn't know any more than we do on the fan boards...

[perrin29]

I could take Trunk or leave him even though he has stated quite strongly that not much comes close to those original VH records with Dave. If there is a tour with Mike I will be there.

[Terry]

I did not know Bassplayer's tech, Kevin Dugan, grew up just outside of Cleveland. Checked his FB page and he hasn't posted in a while.

If it is a package tour, with VH and Wolfgang's band, who else is on the bill? Tremonti? No way VH has someone on the bill that could potentially blow them off the stage. See KWS, the Marley kid, and Kool and the Gang.

Dave riffing on a possible stadium date with a multi bill including Metallica and Foo Fighters, or Guns and Roses...Van Halen with Wolfgang simply doesn't have the current drawing power those bands do. In point of fact, if such a quadruple bill were to take place, if anything I'd assume Van Wolfgang would be closer to the bottom of the bill than the top.

Simply put, Van Wolfgang 2019 isn't selling out 50,000 seat venues in the US on the strength of the Van Halen name alone. I'd have doubts that even CVH 2019 would be packing stadiums on the strength of THAT name alone without a fairly popular name band on the bill with them. 15 to 20,000 seat amphitheater and arenas wouldn't be too hard for Van Halen to sell out, but stadiums? Only if it was the CVH lineup and only if it was announced as a farewell tour. If it's just another Wolfgang Greatest Hits tour, I don't see stadium-sized capacities selling out.

[Terry]

I could take Trunk or leave him even though he has stated quite strongly that not much comes close to those original VH records with Dave. If there is a tour with Mike I will be there.

Yeah, but Trunk has also said - more than once - that while he agrees that the CVH 6-pack records were the best material the band has come up with, [Trunk] still prefers the band with Sammy Hagar in that he thinks the band improved when Roth left. A bizarre rationale that makes no sense.

[Nickdfresh]

Yeah, but Trunk has also said - more than once - that while he agrees that the CVH 6-pack records were the best material the band has come up with, [Trunk] still prefers the band with Sammy Hagar in that he thinks the band improved when Roth left. A bizarre rationale that makes no sense.

Because Sammy kisses his ass and talks to him and Roth pretty much doesn't...

[Terry]

Because Sammy kisses his ass and talks to him and Roth pretty much doesn't...

About the only reason that makes any sense.

[twonabomber]

Dave riffing on a possible stadium date with a multi bill including Metallica and Foo Fighters, or Guns and Roses...Van Halen with Wolfgang simply doesn't have the current drawing power those bands do. In point of fact, if such a quadruple bill were to take place, if anything I'd assume Van Wolfgang would be closer to the bottom of the bill than the top.

Simply put, Van Wolfgang 2019 isn't selling out 50,000 seat venues in the US on the strength of the Van Halen name alone. I'd have doubts that even CVH 2019 would be packing stadiums on the strength of THAT name alone without a fairly popular name band on the bill with them. 15 to 20,000 seat amphitheater and arenas wouldn't be too hard for Van Halen to sell out, but stadiums? Only if it was the CVH lineup and only if it was announced as a farewell tour. If it's just another Wolfgang Greatest Hits tour, I don't see stadium-sized capacities selling out.

Van Wolfgang couldn't sell out 25,000 seaters the last time out, even with Groupon's help!

Monsters Of Rock II? Would Metallica accept a mid-lineup spot? I can't find a link to Azoff's roster, other than something about the creation of Full Stop Management and that he manages the Eagles, Journey, Bon Jovi, and Steely Dan along with newer acts Travis Scott and the One Direction kid. They'll have to go outside Full Stop to fill the bill.

Wolfgang opens so he's got time to re-fill Ed's vape pen during the VH set...

[Terry]

Van Wolfgang couldn't sell out 25,000 seaters the last time out, even with Groupon's help!

Monsters Of Rock II? Would Metallica accept a mid-lineup spot? I can't find a link to Azoff's roster, other than something about the creation of Full Stop Management and that he manages the Eagles, Journey, Bon Jovi, and Steely Dan along with newer acts Travis Scott and the One Direction kid. They'll have to go outside Full Stop to fill the bill.

Wolfgang opens so he's got time to re-fill Ed's vape pen during the VH set...

Van Halen was doing 12 to 15,000 seaters in 2015. The venues were reasonably filled, although I did notice that ticket prices - in my area, anyway - were quite a bit lower than they had been in 2008 and 2012.

Were I Metallica, Guns And Roses or Foo Fighters, I wouldn't accept a lower billing than Van Halen. Guns And Roses was filling 60,000 + venues without the aid of a package tour lineup last time out. I'd have to imagine Metallica and Foos could still pack such venues on the strength of their names alone. Van Halen can't.

Even back in the CVH days, the band wasn't headlining stadiums in the US. They played some stadium gigs opening up for the Stones, and headlined Heavy Metal Day at the US Fest, and opened up...what was it...the California Jam in 1978. There's a difference in playing stadium gigs under those circumstances vs. filling them on the strength of their name alone. Even Van Hagar headlining with the Monsters Of Rock stadium tour did so with several name bands on the bill, and even THEN those shows had attendance problems.

[ZahZoo]

I agree that any "big" tour with 20K+ butts in seats for Van Halen is going to have to be a multi-artist tour. Van Halen in any format with current, past or new band members just won't have the draw for anything in large venues on their own...

Stand-alone headliners... their best bet would be Casinos and county fair circuit gigs at this phase...

[So this is love]

I agree that any "big" tour with 20K+ butts in seats for Van Halen is going to have to be a multi-artist tour. Van Halen in any format with current, past or new band members just won't have the draw for anything in large venues on their own...

Stand-alone headliners... their best bet would be Casinos and county fair circuit gigs at this phase...

A double bill with Van Halen opening for AC\DC or even Aerosmith would be great...That will never happen because AC\DC doesn`t need VH to attract a stadium crowd...still one can dream.

[twonabomber]

Isn't Aerosmith doing their farewell tour?

I wouldn't want to sit through an Aerosmith set to get to VH.

[Terry]

Isn't Aerosmith doing their farewell tour?

I wouldn't want to sit through an Aerosmith set to get to VH.

I wouldn't either, although were that hypothetical an Aerosmith Farewell tour with Van Wolfgang for a business as usual jaunt, I 'spect Van Halen would be opening for Aerosmith.

[Terry]

I agree that any "big" tour with 20K+ butts in seats for Van Halen is going to have to be a multi-artist tour. Van Halen in any format with current, past or new band members just won't have the draw for anything in large venues on their own...

Stand-alone headliners... their best bet would be Casinos and county fair circuit gigs at this phase...

I dunno if Van Halen - the current Van Halen w/ Roth - is QUITE at the small theater / state expo level just yet, though they don't have too long to go.

[ZahZoo]

I dunno if Van Halen - the current Van Halen w/ Roth - is QUITE at the small theater / state expo level just yet, though they don't have too long to go.

Yeah, I think it's getting closer to the smaller end for them. They could probably do well in large cities (NY, LA, Chicago, Vegas) but outside of that I think they'd struggle to fill good sized arenas on their own.