Bern It Up 2020

[FORD]

If Wall street wanted Bernie there Bernie would be there.


Get.A.Fucking.Clue.

Wall $treet doesn't want Bernie. Bernie doesn't want Wall $treet. Wall $treet can fuck off.

[FORD]

BTW, if I were Borey Crooker, I would watch my back around Mini-Me. She already fucked Al Franken with a bullshit fake scandal, and now she's trying to do the same thing to Bernie. Who do you think her next target's gonna be, Borey?

Not that I'd feel an ounce of sympathy for him, but you know the old saying.... "lie down with Phillip Morris funded, Clinton worshiping dogs... wake up with fleas (and possibly STDs)"

[Kristy]

Yap Yap Yap

Do you hear that? Sounds like a progressive poodle barking.

[FORD]

Progressives aren't poodles. We're pit bulls. It's the TURD way DINOs who are the corporatist poodles.

[FORD]

You must be able to find someone better than someone who lost to Hillary Clinton last time...

If you are going to cite the dodgy moves made by the party last time, have the rules changes since?

Also remember that Bernie got a lot of (unsolicited) help from Russian troll farms.

There were as many bots funded by Brock's "Corrupt the Record" shilling for Hillary as there were alleged Russian bots. And Hillary knew about them.

As far as candidates go, there are literally no candidates better than Bernie. Elizabeth Warren probably comes the closest. I trust her on domestic policy completely, on foreign policy not so much. She's been a verbal supporter of the AIPAC talking points (which basically comes down to taking NuttyYahoo's word as gospel) and I'm concerned that her foreign policy advisors might be the same PNAC-lite types that worked for Obama, and that were advising Hillary in 2016.

I'd obviously vote for her over a bankster shill like Scamala Harris, or Borey Crooker. Or a backstabbing Hillary MiniMe like Gillibrand. But I'd rather not have to settle for a continuing PNAC foreign policy, even if the domestic policy is good. I'd really like to see Warren distance herself from that crowd.

[Kristy]

Progressives aren't poodles. We're pit bulls. It's the TURD way DINOs who are the corporatist poodles.

Actually, you're annoying children who need to grow up and face reality.

[Seshmeister]

There were as many bots funded by Brock's "Corrupt the Record" shilling for Hillary as there were alleged Russian bots. And Hillary knew about them.

As far as candidates go, there are literally no candidates better than Bernie. Elizabeth Warren probably comes the closest. I trust her on domestic policy completely, on foreign policy not so much. She's been a verbal supporter of the AIPAC talking points (which basically comes down to taking NuttyYahoo's word as gospel) and I'm concerned that her foreign policy advisors might be the same PNAC-lite types that worked for Obama, and that were advising Hillary in 2016.

I'd obviously vote for her over a bankster shill like Scamala Harris, or Borey Crooker. Or a backstabbing Hillary MiniMe like Gillibrand. But I'd rather not have to settle for a continuing PNAC foreign policy, even if the domestic policy is good. I'd really like to see Warren distance herself from that crowd.

I honestly think that you could literally just pick any American off the street at this point and at least the first 5000 would be a better choice than Orange 45, but it still seems odd to me though to put up a 70 year old.

Any other big job and you would be looking for someone 15-20 years younger. It's weird.

[FORD]

Better than Cheeto is a low hurdle.

People thought "Better than Reagan & Poppy" was all that was required in 1992, and we got the guy who gave us NAFTA, Faux News, Comcast, Clear Channel, Sinclair Broadcasting, and repealed the Glass Steagal act, which allowed the sort of Wall $treet casino gambling which has led to all kinds of financial disasters in the years since then.

We all wanted somebody better than Chimpy in 2008. The guy who was campaigning as a Democrat sounded pretty good. Turns out most of what he said was bullshit, and while he was arguably better than Chimpy, he damn sure wasn't the guy he claimed to be in his campaign speeches. But the bar was set so low that few people noticed... until the wars didn't end, and the insurance industry was preserved, rather than (at the very least) challenged with a public alternative (which is what Obama campaigned on)

So while even the worst of the fake Democrats wouldn't be as completely repulsive as the Orange Imbecile, how many of them would undo the damage done to this country, not just by Drumpf, but pretty much everything since 1981. I know Bernie would do his damnedest to at least try, and I'm reasonably certain that Elizabeth Warren also would, at least on the domestic side. The rest of the candidates currently getting media attention would probably just be like Bill & Barry..... kinder gentler Republicans, whose damage to the country isn't so easy to notice right away.

As far as younger goes, I'd vote for AOC in a heartbeat, if the Constitution allowed her to run for President at 29. Clinton & Obama were among the youngest Presidents elected at the time, but that didn't seem to make much difference in terms of their policies. JFK was technically very young when he was elected, but given his numerous health problems he might not have survived an 8 year term even without the CIA's "help".