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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    “Hillary Clinton will make an outstanding president, and I am proud to stand with her today.”

    - Bernie Sanders

    "John McCain was an American hero, a man of decency and honor and a friend of mine. He will be missed not just in the U.S. Senate but by all Americans who respect integrity and independence."

    - Bernie Sanders

    How quickly the Bernie brats forget their master's hypocrisies, opportunism and overall support for the most venal proponents of American Imperialism.

    master Bernie is a political hood ornament whose candidacy serves to distract the shallow political consumer from the fact that it is the engine that makes the car run. That engine is the economic foundation upon which the superstructure of the government rests. That bad smell you get from this engine is called capitalism as it burns up everything in sight. Bernie, who is a true Wall Street Democrat, our latest 'hope for change", is in agreement with this rotten system only wishing to ameliorate it's worst transgressions which is not possible under the current system.

    master Bernie has supported America's most heinous war crimes throughout his political career and he has supported the most venal of Democrat candidates over third party candidates.

    master Bernie always has and always will prostrate himself before anything else while he throws his entitled little shit suporters under the bus for party politics, joining hands with other unscrupulous, hypocritical party operatives and outright war criminals.

    Fuck him

    slave FORD should be banned for his constant posting of Anti-democracy and subversive propaganda.
    Haha! Yup. I need another lake house Bernie and Hillary and McCain were two huge war mongers. It's all a game. Clinton preached to the left and McCain preached to the right. The reality is a greedy quest for riches and power and old Bernie has found tell the suckers what they want to hear and take the back room money. Sure Hillary was great. I'm sure Bernie got paid well by the Clinton Foundation to take a dive out and then kiss Hillary and the Democrat's asses after they shot his presidency down. Now he's running again and he knows he has no chance in hell of winning but he will get his huge ego massaged by his stupid followers and money will flow in that he can pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I doubt Ms. Obama will run, I think she's sincere when she says she wants none of this. She'd win though...
    She would have a very high probability of winning. But I think you are right. If anyone knows presidents don't have the power people think they have and the pile of shit is too high for any president to shovel away Michelle would know. She also knows that white house is a fancy prison. She has a good life and why would she want to ruin that to be president? Naw. Michelle is too smart and sane to want the presidency. Haha!

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    They are all the same: every god damn Democrat and Rethuglicon. Both are Siamese Twins joined at the hip of Wall Street. Not one fucking Democratic candidate has talked about real social reform. Not one. As for master Bernie, he decided to run (this time) on declaring that his campaign is “about transforming our country and creating a government based on the principles of economic, social, racial and environmental justice,” only to say absolutely nothing about how this could be achieved. He's just anther Wall Street con who believes he's different because he dupes his voters that he is our there in the fringes "fighting for them" when he is not.

    master Bernie runs and you'll have another 4 years of the F A T Orange man doing all sorts of irrevocable damage not only to this country, but the entire globe. This is what tools like slave FORD fail to understand.
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    2020 won't be an election. It will be a freak show that will put any reality TV show to shame. Nothing is going to get fixed folks. Be happy with what you have and enjoy the entertainment and enjoy you are too old to get drafted into someone's dumb war. Just enjoy your craft beer and old Van Halen songs. Politics just isn't worth paying attention to anymore. No real leaders running for anything. The ballot is just a menu on what kind of shit you want to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    They are all the same: every god damn Democrat and Rethuglicon. Both are Siamese Twins joined at the hip of Wall Street. Not one fucking Democratic candidate has talked about real social reform. Not one. As for master Bernie, he decided to run (this time) on declaring that his campaign is “about transforming our country and creating a government based on the principles of economic, social, racial and environmental justice,” only to say absolutely nothing about how this could be achieved. He's just anther Wall Street con who believes he's different because he dupes his voters that he is our there in the fringes "fighting for them" when he is not.

    master Bernie runs and you'll have another 4 years of the F A T Orange man doing all sorts of irrevocable damage not only to this country, but the entire globe. This is what tools like slave FORD fail to understand.
    I think we are going to get four more years of the orange troll. As far as the economy goes that's all based on interest rates short term but this credit bubble is going to deleverage. The orange troll if he wins a second term very well could be president during a great depression. The stock market probably has one good rally left in it but it's all short-term speculation and not real investing. Most Americans don't own equities so when the stocks go south so do the rich. The rich will get pummeled in this next downturn and real estate will take a hard hit and who does that hurt? The Trump Organization who's main asset is luxury real estate and luxury real estate will not be immune from debt deleveraging. The economy will do more damage to Trump than anyone in Washington will and have a good laugh when the markets tank on his watch. He deserves another term. The Mueller Investigation will come to a close shortly. Not much will come from it as I have been saying. Trump will win another term and then see the economy tank during that term. Enjoy!

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    The "lake house" bullshit has been debunked years ago. That house was paid for via the sale of another house which Jane Sanders inherited from a dead relative. It had nothing to do with any money that Bernie made while he was a candidate, a Senator, or anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    They are all the same: every god damn Democrat and Rethuglicon. Both are Siamese Twins joined at the hip of Wall Street. Not one fucking Democratic candidate has talked about real social reform. Not one. As for master Bernie, he decided to run (this time) on declaring that his campaign is “about transforming our country and creating a government based on the principles of economic, social, racial and environmental justice,” only to say absolutely nothing about how this could be achieved.
    Wrong again, Slave Kristy......
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    Sanders Introduces Estate Tax Reform to Combat Inequality
    Thursday, January 31, 2019
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    WASHINGTON, Jan. 31 – In an effort to combat rising wealth inequality, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced legislation Thursday to establish a progressive estate tax on the fortunes of the top 0.2 percent of Americans and significantly increase rates on billionaires.

    Sanders' legislation, the For the 99.8% Act, would raise $2.2 trillion from the nation's 588 billionaires. In contrast, Senate Republican leadership proposed a bill this week that would repeal the estate tax for the richest 1,700 families in America.

    "At a time of massive wealth and income inequality, when the three richest Americans own more wealth than 160 million Americans, it is literally beyond belief that the Republican leadership wants to provide hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the top 0.2 percent," Sanders said. "Our bill does what the American people want by substantially increasing the estate tax on the wealthiest families in this country and dramatically reducing wealth inequality. From a moral, economic, and political perspective our nation will not thrive when so few have so much and so many have so little."

    Sanders' bill would only apply to the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans. It would establish a 45 percent tax on the value of an estate between $3.5 million and $10 million; a 50 percent tax on the value of an estate between $10 million and $50 million; a 55 percent tax on the value of an estate in excess of $50 million; and a 77 percent tax on the value of an estate above $1 billion – a return to the top rate from 1941 through 1976.

    The legislation would also close tax loopholes that have allowed billionaire families to pass fortunes from one generation to the next without paying their fair share of taxes.

    While the Walton family, the wealthiest family in America, would get up to a $63 billion tax break from the Republican proposal, they would owe an estate tax of up to $130 billion under Sanders' reform.

    The Kochs, a family worth over $97 billion, would owe an estate tax of up to $74 billion.

    And the family of Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, who has a net worth of more than $130 billion, would pay an estate tax of up to $100 billion.

    The For the 99.8% Act was endorsed by a number of leading economists including Thomas Piketty, Emmanuel Saez, Gabriel Zucman, Robert Reich and Darrick Hamilton.

    "The estate tax was a key pillar of the progressive tax revolution that the United States ushered one century ago. It prevented self-made wealth from turning into inherited wealth and helped make America more equal. However, the estate tax is dying of neglect, as tax avoidance schemes are multiplying and left unchallenged. As wealth concentration is surging in the United States, it is high time to revive the estate tax, plug the loopholes, and make it more progressive. Sen. Sanders' bill is a bold and welcome leap forward in this direction," said Emmanuel Saez, professor of economics at the University of California, Berkeley.

    “One century ago, the US invented steeply progressive estate and income taxes in order to maintain the egalitarian and democratic legacy of the country. Today's US is becoming even more unequal than Pre-World War I Europe. The way out is stronger investment in skills, higher paying jobs and a more progressive tax system. Sen. Sanders' estate tax bill, including a 77 percent tax rate on estate values above $1 billion, is an important step in this direction,” said Thomas Piketty, Paris School of Economics professor.

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    Obviously that's just one example of what he's done recently. I'm sure Bernie will have more details about his future proposals up on his campaign website soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    The "lake house" bullshit has been debunked years ago. That house was paid for via the sale of another house which Jane Sanders inherited from a dead relative. It had nothing to do with any money that Bernie made while he was a candidate, a Senator, or anything else.
    Sanders is nothing more than another sycophant. Another typical politician. The guy has never had a real job in his life and because of that he's in la la land. He's a cult of personality because he's perceived to be the anti-politician but in reality he's a US Senator and very much a politician and has no real record of accomplishing anything other than he himself living off of the public treasury.

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    Sure he had a "real job". He used to be a carpenter, just like another well known Jewish "socialist".

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    Everyone wants a messiah to show up and save their ass. Well the only person who is going to save your ass is the person you look at in the mirror every morning. No such thing as a free lunch people. In fact I will quote Nancy Pelosi who said,"Nobody just gives you power. You have to take it from someone." Even Nancy gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I think we are going to get four more years of the orange troll.
    If Ginsburg dies this year and Trump gets another Supreme Court pick, it won't matter if Trump gets re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    If Ginsburg dies this year and Trump gets another Supreme Court pick, it won't matter if Trump gets re-elected.


    RBG ain't going nowhere.

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    Bernie is a wimp. He never stood up to the establishment when the Democratic Party screwed him. He took it up the ass and enjoyed is. Now the old windbag is back out getting another 15 minutes of adulation to feed his huge ego. Like I said. Freak show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    If Ginsburg dies this year and Trump gets another Supreme Court pick, it won't matter if Trump gets re-elected.
    Haha Hell she could be dead already and they taxidermed her. We might just be seeing the pickled version of her.

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    Oh well. This election is going to be like watching a fight break out in the state mental asylum. Nobody running is sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Haha Hell she could be dead already and they taxidermed her. We might just be seeing the pickled version of her.
    Nah, there was a video of her hobbling around somewhere the other day. Not Weekend at Ginsburg's yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Nah, there was a video of her hobbling around somewhere the other day. Not Weekend at Ginsburg's yet.
    Maybe it was one of them actors Alex Jones is always talking about. Maybe they cloned her DNA. Maybe what people are seeing is really the product of a secret underground government lab. Maybe it's the result of a Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein and Anthony Wiener milkshake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post


    RBG ain't going nowhere.
    Quoting so you can't delete it when she croaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    If
    This is why you live as destitutive as you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    in reality he's a US Senator and very much a politician and has no real record of accomplishing anything other than he himself living off of the public treasury.
    Um, what "public treasury?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    This is why you live as destitutive as you do.
    Look how upset FORD got when I posted "if." He might have offed himself if I said "when."

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    Nah, I'm not all that upset. Of course, a 6-3 fascist court would bring about the end of all pretense of civilization, but I'm not going to get upset about all that, because it's a hypothetical that ain't ever happening. The Notorious RBG is very healthy for her age. She survived cancer and was given a clean bill of health from her doctors. She broke some ribs, which sucks, because it's an injury you can't really do anything about (went through it myself a couple years ago) except moderate some physical activities for a couple of months while they heal.

    All she really has to do is survive through the end of 2019 anyway, because we all know that Bitch McTurtle wouldn't be a hypocrite and allow Cheeto to name a judge in an election year after he explicily blocked Obama from doing so, right? Orange is the New Black, right Yertle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Bernie is a wimp. He never stood up to the establishment when the Democratic Party screwed him. He took it up the ass and enjoyed is. Now the old windbag is back out getting another 15 minutes of adulation to feed his huge ego. Like I said. Freak show.
    How is he being a "wimp" as opposed to any of the other politicians you vote for? What was he supposed to do? I disagree that he "took it in the ass", he lost. Whether Clinton was anointed or not, she had more delegates. I think this is just nonsense dribble. The Dems no more screwed him than the Founding Dad's did us with their fucking "electoral college" of irony...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    As opposed to what? The lower tax refund you're probably going to get this year due to Trump's "tax reform"?

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    As I posted in the other thread

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    Who cares? Refunds are due to overpayment. Set your shit up so you keep more money every week.

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    You're still getting less back! Or paying more to begin with...

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    Haven't even started my return. Made changes to withholding last year. We'll see.

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    Enjoy it kemosabe, because the Rethuglicons are coming for your Social Security, pensions, 401k's and HSA's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    You're still getting less back! Or paying more to begin with...
    If you had a job you'd know that is liberal b.s.
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    So much for the Hillbot lie that "Bernie only cares about the white guys".....


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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    This proves absolutely nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Howard Schultz came from the projects in Brooklyn. Went to college on a basketball scholarship became a coffee making equipment salesman and partnered with a mom and pop coffee house in Seattle. Howard then grew that small coffee house into a major international brand. In short Howard Schultz is a self-made man. Compare this to Bernie who never even collected a paycheck until he was 40 and that was a government check. What has Bernie ever done other than live off of tax money one way or another. Then he proves himself to be a huge wimp by not calling the Democrat Party out when they screwed him over. A major wimp. Not exactly who you want to change things in Washington DC. Perfect if you want things to remain the same.

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    This is the game. I have no idea why the Dems are worried about Howard Schultz running. He's wasting his time even talking to the Dems. Howard is going to have to appeal to Trump's base to win. That means going to flyover country and convincing Joe Six Pack he's a more capable person than Donald Trump is. What does a Jew from Brooklyn have in common with these people? About as much as Donald Trump does. The thing is the Democrats took the working class for granted and started focusing more on the welfare vote and wealthy donors. It's no longer the Democrat Party of old and many people in it voted Republican the first time in their life. Maybe they are happy with the results or maybe not. Trump certainly isn't a conservative. He's a middle of the road guy from New York who cares more about making money than social issues. Do you think Trump cares about religion or any of that stuff? Howard Schultz is a social liberal but a fiscal conservative with a track record of being successful. Howard is a bigger threat to Trump than he is to the Democrats and could be a Trump spoiler. The thing is Trump has iron balls and is completely ruthless. I think Howard is too nice to beat Trump.

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