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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #76
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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #77
      Eat Us And Smile

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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #78
        Eat Us And Smile

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        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32794

          #79
          Originally posted by FORD
          Howard Schultz came from the projects in Brooklyn. Went to college on a basketball scholarship became a coffee making equipment salesman and partnered with a mom and pop coffee house in Seattle. Howard then grew that small coffee house into a major international brand. In short Howard Schultz is a self-made man. Compare this to Bernie who never even collected a paycheck until he was 40 and that was a government check. What has Bernie ever done other than live off of tax money one way or another. Then he proves himself to be a huge wimp by not calling the Democrat Party out when they screwed him over. A major wimp. Not exactly who you want to change things in Washington DC. Perfect if you want things to remain the same.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32794

            #80
            This is the game. I have no idea why the Dems are worried about Howard Schultz running. He's wasting his time even talking to the Dems. Howard is going to have to appeal to Trump's base to win. That means going to flyover country and convincing Joe Six Pack he's a more capable person than Donald Trump is. What does a Jew from Brooklyn have in common with these people? About as much as Donald Trump does. The thing is the Democrats took the working class for granted and started focusing more on the welfare vote and wealthy donors. It's no longer the Democrat Party of old and many people in it voted Republican the first time in their life. Maybe they are happy with the results or maybe not. Trump certainly isn't a conservative. He's a middle of the road guy from New York who cares more about making money than social issues. Do you think Trump cares about religion or any of that stuff? Howard Schultz is a social liberal but a fiscal conservative with a track record of being successful. Howard is a bigger threat to Trump than he is to the Democrats and could be a Trump spoiler. The thing is Trump has iron balls and is completely ruthless. I think Howard is too nice to beat Trump.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #81
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Howard Schultz came from the projects in Brooklyn. Went to college on a basketball scholarship
              ....and then went on to ruin one of the best basketball teams in history. Fuck that asshole.
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              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49125

                #82
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                Sanders is nothing more than another sycophant. Another typical politician. The guy has never had a real job in his life and because of that he's in la la land. He's a cult of personality because he's perceived to be the anti-politician but in reality he's a US Senator and very much a politician and has no real record of accomplishing anything other than he himself living off of the public treasury.
                Um do you know what the word "sycophant" means?

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35157

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  The guy has never had a real job in his life and because of that he's in la la land. He's a cult of personality because he's perceived to be the anti-politician but in reality he's a US Senator and very much a politician and has no real record of accomplishing anything other than he himself living off of the public treasury.
                  So like a non crooked sane version of Trump who wants to help other people?

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                  • twonabomber
                    formerly F A T
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11189

                    #84
                    Bernie Sanders Dragged Democrats Left. Will He Be Left Behind?

                    The Vermont senator forced pundits, activists, and voters to reevaluate and redefine the broader Democratic project. Ahead of 2020, presidential candidates like Kamala Harris are doing the same. Now that Bernie’s running again, where does he fit in?
                    Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58754

                      #85
                      That writer makes the faulty assumption that the other so-called "Democratic" candidates, like Scamala Harris are actually serious about what they are currently saying. Bernie's consistent. You KNOW he means what he says, because he's been saying it since 1987 (probably before that, but that's when his political career essentially began). Scamala Harris - much like Hillary in 2016 - is pretending to support progressive ideas such as Medicare for All because she knows that's where the voters are. Bill Clinton & Barack Obama both campaigned to the left, but neither of them were actually progressive when they got into office.
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                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32794

                        #86
                        Originally posted by twonabomber
                        Bernie Sanders Dragged Democrats Left. Will He Be Left Behind?

                        https://www.theringer.com/2019/2/26/...rump-democrats
                        Bernie didn't drag the Democrat Party anywhere. They dragged him under the bus because Hillary bought the party with her foundation money. The Democrat Party was broke and Hillary infused it with money and she convinced big donors she could win and promised them favors. When Hillary lost to Trump there was panic and the whole dynamic changed. Now the people running the party think you succeed by going even more left. Hillary was a corporate Democrat.

                        Bernie Sanders is popular because he's viewed as an outsider. He's perceived to be a man of the people and not corporations. So he gets lot's of grass roots money. Will he get thrown under again? Who knows. Politics is all about money and even if popular Democrats are saying having billionaires is wrong they also love money and tend to take money from billionaires so they can live their posh Washington DC lifestyle. Do you honestly think people like Cortez want to give that up once they get a taste of it?
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32794

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          So like a non crooked sane version of Trump who wants to help other people?
                          Actually Bernie Sanders is the Donald Trump of the left. Both are outsiders and popular because they are perceived to not be part of the crooked political system. Also both Bernie and Trump are egotistical blowhards. As far as sanity goes sane people don't run for president. Nobody sane wants the job.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32794

                            #88
                            The reality is the game is still partisan. Who wins presidential elections is the person who can convince the 10% who don't vote a party line they are the better candidate. That's the game. If you go to far left or too far right you lose those votes. I think Trump gets that concept. I'm not sure anyone on the Democrat side does.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58754

                              #89
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                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 58754

                                #90
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                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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