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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah, that's right you miserable Orange fuck. I banged this wife too. Smile for the cameras, Donnie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's a blatant tactic.

    Release their version of what the report says which will become what the report is in the minds of the casual public.

    Then delay it as long as possible so if and when it ever is released it's old news.

    There is this really weird new shit going on whereby news facts only last a couple of days after that who cares?

    Here are some undisputed facts not opinions without even knowing what is in the Mueller report.

    1) Trump would have been indicted for the hush money paid to Daniels if he wasn't president.

    2) A hostile government attacked the election on Trumps behalf

    3) Trump knew about it, encouraged it on TV, he welcomed it and lied about it and then tried to cover it up with more lies.

    4) Trump lied about not having dealings with Russia when his $300 million tower there was still on the table during the election campaign - the biggest deal he would have ever made.


    Those aren't facts. Those are made up media B.S that you believe.

    Not against the law to pay off a porn star to keep her dick sucker shut.

    Russians have never cared who was president. They have attacked our democracy constantly. Along with China, the N. Koreans, and Iran. All who have hacked and spied on us for years.

    Trump sarcastically asked the Russians to find Hillary's emails since no one in our intelligence agencies could find the missing 30,000. Good Lord- can't believe you don't see the sarcasm there.

    Not sure about no. 4. But I don't give a shit either.
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    Let's move on folks. Let's talk about how Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and why Jared Kushner is really the man running the White House while his lame father in law is just a front. Let's talk about how the massad is keeping Trump in office because Israel is getting everything they want from him.
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    So they are colluding with corrupt Russian bastards after all. Just not the ones in Moscow this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    So they are colluding with corrupt Russian bastards after all. Just not the ones in Moscow this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksmar View Post
    So playing in the everybody's leftist wet dream, if you moved to Canada and tried to circumvent the United States presidential election, would you be on Putin's side or Russia's side, or Iran's side?

    ....

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    Well since Trump handed Syria to both, who the fuck knows the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Schultz View Post
    It's funny when adult autistic fuckstumps that can barely string together five words and only link memes like a 13 year old girl on Facebook call out "retards". And make sure you stay more than 600' away from schools, pedo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Schultz View Post
    Nick is obsessed with penis and butthole.


    Hey, anyone need a free babysitter?
    Meme spamming fucktard says what?

    Sure, kid diddler...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Let's move on folks. Let's talk about how Trump is a sock puppet for Israel and why Jared Kushner is really the man running the White House while his lame father in law is just a front. Let's talk about how the massad is keeping Trump in office because Israel is getting everything they want from him.
    The guy who cries "nothing burger" and posts with repeated ignorance of facts and "never watches Fox News" despite repeating their talking points verbatim says what? With all due respect, fuck off...

    Here's what you said about a "nothing burger" investigation in 2015:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Oh come on. You know Hillbilly let it all happen on purpose because she was running weapons from Libya to the rebels in Syria because she wanted to oust Asaad so her buddies in Qatar could run their gas pipeline through. Then this would give Putin competition to the lucrative European gas market and Putin loses his naval port on the Med as well. You know it's true. I read it on the internet. The US ambassador threatened to expose what was going on so no protection for you. No money for security? Please.
    You're such a fucking dimwitted cliche hypowit, it's not even funny anymore....

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    [QUOTE=Nickdfresh;1939221]Meme spamming fucktard says what?


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    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...t-address.html


    William Barr Has Failed America

    His press conference was appalling even by the Trump administration’s standard.
    By MARK JOSEPH STERN




    Observers of the Justice Department will spend the rest of our lives talking about Attorney General William Barr’s jaw-dropping and horrifically inappropriate address on Thursday morning, which attempted to spin special counsel Robert Mueller’s report in Donald Trump’s favor—before the public has seen it. In just a few minutes, Barr managed to throw Mueller under the bus, mount a Fox News–style defense of Trump, and further obscure his dubious decision to absolve the president of obstruction of justice. It is hard to convey just how appalling Barr’s performance was, and it will take a while to assess the extent of the damage Barr just inflicted on the Department of Justice and the office of the attorney general. But let me take a first crack: This was Pravda-style propaganda, pure and simple, a grotesque display of spineless fealty to the president, and a confirmation that Barr views the Mueller investigation as fundamentally illegitimate.

    The first half of Barr’s address was essentially a reiteration of his earlier summary of Mueller’s report, which the attorney general helpfully summed up in Trump’s two favorite words: no collusion. Mueller, Barr explained, found that the Russian government did unlawfully attempt to influence the 2016 election; both Russian military officials and the Internet Research Agency, a troll farm affiliated with the Russian government, meddled in the race. But the special counsel “found no evidence that any Americans—including anyone associated with the Trump campaign—conspired or coordinated with the Russian government or the IRA in carrying out this illegal scheme.”

    We do not yet know if Barr used this oddly narrow language to conceal attempts by the Trump campaign to collude with Russian agents, or to disseminate stolen material; to obscure possible coordination with Russian nationals not formally connected to the Russian government; or to obfuscate an extremely cramped definition of conspiracy and collusion. The report itself should help us understand just how candid or dishonest, this segment of Barr’s address was. And hopefully, Barr did not redact portions of the report that might clear up any sleights of hand the attorney general may have performed to gloss over legally troubling conduct by the president and his associates.

    What we do know is that the president’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak the same day that President Barack Obama issued retaliatory measures in response to Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. And that Mueller later prosecuted Flynn for lying to FBI agents about his contacts with Russian officials. And that Flynn pleaded guilty to this felony charge and cooperated with the probe. And then Trump asked then–FBI Director James Comey to end the investigation into Flynn.

    We also know that Trump’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations committed in an effort to cover up Trump’s extramarital affair—a crime allegedly committed at the president’s direction, and one that was prosecuted by the Southern District of New York after the special counsel’s office provided it with information about Cohen. And we know that Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the Trump Organization’s attempts to build a new property in Moscow during the presidential campaign. Cohen, in fact, admitted to this crime as part of a plea deal with Mueller.

    This information is important to keep in mind when considering the second half of Barr’s address, pertaining to obstruction of justice. Barr once again reiterated that he does not believe in Mueller’s legal theory of obstruction. He didn’t elaborate, but his views here are well-known: Barr believes obstruction of an investigation cannot be committed unless there is an underlying crime (which is wrong) and that the president cannot commit obstruction by exercising his executive powers, even if done with a corrupt motive (which is dubious). But leave that aside for now. What’s truly astonishing is that after briefly attempting to exculpate Trump of obstruction, Barr launched into a vigorous and gratuitous defense of the president’s highly unusual and suspect behavior throughout the probe:


    In assessing the President’s actions discussed in the report, it is important to bear in mind the context. President Trump faced an unprecedented situation. As he entered into office, and sought to perform his responsibilities as President, federal agents and prosecutors were scrutinizing his conduct before and after taking office, and the conduct of some of his associates. At the same time, there was relentless speculation in the news media about the President’s personal culpability. Yet, as he said from the beginning, there was in fact no collusion. And as the Special Counsel’s report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the President was frustrated and angered by a sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents, and fueled by illegal leaks. Nonetheless, the White House fully cooperated with the Special Counsel’s investigation, providing unfettered access to campaign and White House documents, directing senior aides to testify freely, and asserting no privilege claims. And at the same time, the President took no act that in fact deprived the Special Counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. Apart from whether the acts were obstructive, this evidence of non-corrupt motives weighs heavily against any allegation that the President had a corrupt intent to obstruct the investigation

    Barr’s message here is simple: Trump is the real victim. The victim of the media and leaks. The victim of excess scrutiny and oversight. The victim of what Barr appears to believe was an overly intrusive investigation conducted by overzealous “federal agents and prosecutors.” All of Trump’s lying, his interference, his efforts to publicly discredit the probe, his public assault on Mueller—all of it is excusable, Barr implied, because the probe found “no collusion.” Indeed, Barr writes off Trump’s campaign against the investigation as a perfectly understandable effort to maintain his innocence. His acts were not obstructionary; they were noble.

    That’s not legal analysis, since righteous anger is not an actual defense against obstruction. It’s political spin. It’s propaganda. It’s running interference for the president who appointed Barr to do precisely this—to exonerate him in public before Americans can read Mueller’s report. It was a galling performance for an audience of one, the president. And Trump must be pleased. In fact, the moment the presser ended, the president posted a Game of Thrones–themed tweet telling the “haters and the radical left Democrats” that it was “Game Over.” Barr’s performance and Trump’s tweet seemed almost coordinated. It is an extraordinary embarrassment for DOJ.

    The attorney general did what Trump hired him to do. In the process, he has disgraced his office in ways we are only beginning to understand. Barr joined the DOJ too late to quash the investigation. But he is doing his best to shield the Trump from its findings. Thursday morning will be remembered as one of the most shameful chapters in the history of the Department of Justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Barr once again reiterated that he does not believe in Mueller’s legal theory of obstruction. He didn’t elaborate, but his views here are well-known: Barr believes obstruction of an investigation cannot be committed unless there is an underlying crime (which is wrong)
    It's crazy this is being banded about by Barr and Guliani - fucking Martha Stewart must be wondering how she ended up in prison.

    It's basic law - if the cops investigate you but you obstruct and destroy the evidence of your crime so that they can't prosecute you, they will prosecute you for the obstruction.

    https://psmag.com/social-justice/bar...structing-what

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    If you want a "searchable" copy of today's "Mueller Lite" report, click here.

    It's well over 400 pages so I haven't even tried to read into it yet, but might as well grab a copy before Cheeto has it purged from the internet.
    Now if somebody would only leak the un-redacted version.......

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    Barr was the same guy who helped Poppy Bush & his friends get away with the treasonous Iran/Contra scam, so he's used to plotting right wing coverups. And the guy with the beard who stood behind Barr at his press conference this morning was the former leader of Sarah Palin's "Truth Squad", which kept the details of her "Troopergate" scandal away from her 2008 campaign with Grandpa McCain. And as Thom Hartmann mentioned on the radio, Rosenstein looked like he was being held hostage during that press conference. Wonder what sort of blackmail material they have on him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Barr was the same guy who helped Poppy Bush & his friends get away with the treasonous Iran/Contra scam, so he's used to plotting right wing coverups. And the guy with the beard who stood behind Barr at his press conference this morning was the former leader of Sarah Palin's "Truth Squad", which kept the details of her "Troopergate" scandal away from her 2008 campaign with Grandpa McCain. And as Thom Hartmann mentioned on the radio, Rosenstein looked like he was being held hostage during that press conference. Wonder what sort of blackmail material they have on him?
    Ha! Ha! With Bolton in the White House and Trump getting his nuts sucked by Bibi the military industrial complex might just want to stick with Trump. We aren’t going to pull out of the Middle East and more war is on the horizon. Also none of these government investigations really accomplish anything. Nobody substantial ever goes to jail and nothing in the government changes.

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    As long as those in power continue to keep this country divided they can keep doing what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    If you want a "searchable" copy of today's "Mueller Lite" report, click here.

    It's well over 400 pages so I haven't even tried to read into it yet, but might as well grab a copy before Cheeto has it purged from the internet.
    Now if somebody would only leak the un-redacted version.......
    So let’s say you have the full report. What are you going to accomplish by doing so? Are you some kind of Jedi master or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The guy who cries "nothing burger" and posts with repeated ignorance of facts and "never watches Fox News" despite repeating their talking points verbatim says what? With all due respect, fuck off...

    Here's what you said about a "nothing burger" investigation in 2015:



    You're such a fucking dimwitted cliche hypowit, it's not even funny anymore....
    Awww someone is upset nothing ever happened from the report.

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    The President can fire ANYONE at ANYTIME for ANY REASON dipshits. Just ask Comey. bawahahahah!!
    HAPPY NO OBSTRUCTION DAY BITCHES!

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    Cheeto & Barr are liars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    The President can fire ANYONE at ANYTIME for ANY REASON dipshits. Just ask Comey. bawahahahah!!
    HAPPY NO OBSTRUCTION DAY BITCHES!
    This is the weird American tribal politics thing.

    Your team didn't just score a touchdown, more like if your crooked landlord was screwing your neighbors. That's not a win for you.

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    I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.

    (Spikes Football)

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.

    (Spikes Football)
    No, what it actually means is that Mueller believes the "conventional wisdom" in Washington DC, that you cannot indict a sitting President, even when he's an Orange Imbecile & a criminal fraud. It's highly questionable whether that's actually the law or not, but it's what Mueller went with, and he certainly has enough experience in this area to know what he's doing.

    That is why Mueller said in his report that such conclusions should be left up to Congress. Not to this phony bloated fuck of a criminal "Attorney General". What Mueller was suggesting was going forward with the Impeachment process.

    Of course Mueller can't compel Jellyfish Pelosi to actually go through with it. And of course, if she did, there's still no guarantee that the Senate would remove his bloated Orange ass (unless enough Republican senators were convinced they had to throw Cheeto under the bus to save their own re-elections in 2020)

    So it's not an exoneration by any means. Regardless of how Barr, his magic Sharpies, and right wing media are trying to spin it.

    Or to continue with the sports analogies, it's not even a Safety, let alone a Touchdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    I guess Mueller must be ALMOST part of my tribe since he found NO COLLUSION and just couldn't make up his mind on obstruction. You do realize he would have nailed Trump if he found anything.

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    You aren't paying attention closely.

    What is collusion other than a word that Trump came up with?

    Collusion isn't a crime.

    He didn't 'nail' trump because he thought that his role was to gather evidence for the attorney general or congress to decide on. In the meantime Trump appointed an Attorney General who had been arguing in public that presidents should be above the law.

    Is that really what you want? Even if insanely you want to live in a banana republic what happens when the other side get in?

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    In summary the Mueller report says everything that the Trump family has been accused of by reputable journalists about Russia interfering on their behalf in the election is true as is all the lying about it afterwards and attempts to cover it up that led to Flynn and Manafort going to jail. It then says that because he is president it can't make a recommendation to prosecute as that would have to be a decision by Congress until he is no longer president.

    The tone of it is really really different from the way Barr spun it - it comes across like the author(s) are appalled by the actions of the administration.

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    So the US Senate Judiciary Committee that had the same access to information the Justice Department had ruled President Trump was innocent and the Department of Justice rules President Trump innocent but the experts here at the David Lee Roth Army School of Law say President Trump is guilty.

    Sound the alarm folks. Get on the hotline and send up the bat signal. Somebody needs to save America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    No, what it actually means is that Mueller believes the "conventional wisdom" in Washington DC, that you cannot indict a sitting President, even when he's an Orange Imbecile & a criminal fraud. It's highly questionable whether that's actually the law or not, but it's what Mueller went with, and he certainly has enough experience in this area to know what he's doing.

    That is why Mueller said in his report that such conclusions should be left up to Congress. Not to this phony bloated fuck of a criminal "Attorney General". What Mueller was suggesting was going forward with the Impeachment process.

    Of course Mueller can't compel Jellyfish Pelosi to actually go through with it. And of course, if she did, there's still no guarantee that the Senate would remove his bloated Orange ass (unless enough Republican senators were convinced they had to throw Cheeto under the bus to save their own re-elections in 2020)

    So it's not an exoneration by any means. Regardless of how Barr, his magic Sharpies, and right wing media are trying to spin it.

    Or to continue with the sports analogies, it's not even a Safety, let alone a Touchdown.
    Impeachment is a waste of time and the Dems aren't going to gain anything in the election going that route. Best to put it all behind and focus on winning 2020. Pelosi has been house speaker twice. She's been around the block a few times. The young hot heads in the Democrat party would be wise to take some advice from people who have been there and have played the game. A unified party is stronger than one that is arguing amongst itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    So the US Senate Judiciary Committee that had the same access to information the Justice Department had ruled President Trump was innocent and the Department of Justice rules President Trump innocent but the experts here at the David Lee Roth Army School of Law say President Trump is guilty.

    Sound the alarm folks. Get on the hotline and send up the bat signal. Somebody needs to save America!
    Are you being deliberately silly with the use of the word 'innocent'?

    There is a huge difference between being 'innocent' and 'we can't convict him without a partisan Republican senate agreeing to it'.

    Somewhere down the line I think one or more of his kids/son in law will end up in jail not for the Russia election thing but for money laundering.
    Last edited by Seshmeister; 04-18-2019 at 10:12 PM.

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    Just a reminder of who this piece of shit so-called "Attorney General" is, and how he covered up for another treasonous felon who called himself "President"...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Awww someone is upset nothing ever happened from the report.
    I guess we'll have to wait for the 14 other spinoff investigations, won't we Benghazi Express? In anycase, how many convictions did your conspiracy shits produce?

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    I believe there's a fundamental element at the core of this in where things sit at the moment...

    The Russians were clearly engaged in disrupting the 2016 election. That's on them and no one is disputing the Russian's role and attempts. Mueller's team found not only was there no conspiracy or collusion by Trump and the Trump campaign team, but no other American citizen as well. That's notable... No evidence an American engaged in a conspiracy/crime with the Russians. This was the core of the investigation.

    How can one obstruct justice in the absence of evidence of a crime having been committed by any American?

    Justice was dished out to the Russians indicted. No one obstructed that. Justice was dished out to those who lied to the FBI and those who had other crimes discovered unrelated to the 2016 election and Trump. No one obstructed any of that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Somewhere down the line I think one or more of his kids/son in law will end up in jail not for the Russia election thing but for money laundering.
    Better call NYT and CNN with your scoop. I'm sure they'll run with it.

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