Results 1 to 29 of 29

Thread: Shitty rock journalism

  1. #1
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10

    Shitty rock journalism

    I have to admit I don't read massive amounts of music journalism these days but I do try and keep a passing lookout for things Roth and CVH for the sake of this forum and with the recent mild upsurge in reporting of Dave with him doing some interviews I can't believe some of the garbage that passes these days. I get that some if not all of this shit is click bait but from supposedly 'proper' music sites I've been shocked at the shitty quality.

    If I had time I would do it by category - stupid, ignorant, schoolboy errors and the ever pervasive 'fake irrelevant headline' but most are in this single abortion by some peabrain called Brett Buchanan.

    If you are reading this Brentt don't dismiss this as fanboy defence of David Lee Roth as this is not a site that shrinks away from criticism.

    Here is a typical bit of brilliant journalism from the the new Hunter S Thomson.
    https://www.alternativenation.net/sl...lvet-revolver/



    Slash Reveals Disgusting Drug Use In Velvet Revolver

    By Brett Buchanan - Apr 15, 2019

    Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash discussed using drugs during his days playing with the late Scott Weiland in Velvet Revolver in a new Belfast Live interview.

    Slash revealed he struggled heavily with addiction “through the early millennium, up through 2005.”

    He said, “Velvet Revolver started and just because of the nature of the band – and it’s my own fault – but within that context it was easy to do.”

    “I got completely strung out again and at that point I realised there was nothing about being strung out that reminded me of anything like when I first started doing drugs. It was pretty miserable.”

    “And then after that, with alcohol, nothing was doing it for me and I decided I had to stop.”

    “I had two kids and I was living in a hotel because I couldn’t be around them.

    “It all sort of came to a head and I thought I needed to go to some sort of facility and just get away from everybody for a month and I’ll clean up.”

    “I really embraced it and I came out of it really happy and all that energy I was putting towards self-destruction I just put towards music.”

    Slash went to rehab in 2006 and cleaned up for good. Dave Kushner is the only member of Velvet Revolver who was sober during the band’s 5 years together.

    Slash 'reveals' drug use. Is this fucking new in 2019???? His autobiography came out over 10 years ago.

    'Disgusting' - is that just some prurient line because there is nothing in this so called piece that merits the word? Wow the fucking Helen Lovejoy of music 'journalism' has spoken.



    So a shitty pathetic pointless comment on an article/interview written by someone else.

    I mention the above to put some context on this and his other recent articles like 'Greta Van Fleet Singer Hot Shirtless Photo Revealed' and 'Metallica Make Crazy Tom Cruise Revelation' - revelation being that they did a video for a song that was briefly in a Tom Cruise movie and it was windy. Read it, I'm not exaggerating.
    https://www.alternativenation.net/me...se-revelation/


    So onto the new Steinbeck's David Lee Roth piece yesterday.
    https://www.alternativenation.net/va...racial-remark/

    Van Halen Icon Makes Bizarre Freddie Mercury Racial Remark
    By Brentt Buchanan - Apr 15, 2019




    Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth recently said that late Queen frontman Freddie Mercury sang ‘European non-black’ on the Joe Rogan Experience.

    “I saw Freddie [Mercury] live at the L.A. Forum, I was probably in the 20th row when ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ had just come out. I saw him at his major, major prime there. Stagecraft is one thing, but what Freddie was and what he brought was way more than what you saw on stage. His sensibilities in terms of music weren’t just three chords and an attitude.

    Freddie brought a whole wealth of listening to different kinds of music, whether it was orchestral, big band or bistro. He didn’t try to sing black, he sang European non-black. What we are very used to, even in the country. I had a very famous African American producer say to me, ‘do you know what it means to be a black man in the United States today?’ I said ‘every time I step up to a mic!’”
    So that counts as a bizarre racial remark about Freddie? Wow. So you are left wondering is it deliberate ignorance or not?

    It turns out that Brentt Buchanan is the owner and editor in chief of Alternativenation so the buck stops with him.

    I don't know how small or pointless niche his site is but it does seem to pop up on my feeds a hell of a lot. Hey we all have to make a living one way or another but the way to do this is surely not to write articles which are worse than an average average drunk YouTube comment?
    Last edited by Seshmeister; 04-15-2019 at 09:40 PM.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  2. Thanked Seshmeister for this KICKASS post:

    Jérôme Frenchise (04-16-2019)


  3. #2
    FROGALLIC
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    Jérôme Frenchise's Avatar
    Member No
    9783
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:14 PM
    Location
    Frogland
    Age
    49
    Posts
    6,840
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    701
    Thanked 397 Times in 296 Posts


    Rep Power
    25
    Stupid, indeed. I remember that part in the radio broadcast when Dave evoked Mercury, a damn cool part btw, and heard nothing wrong.
    But then it's a matter of generations, we belong to that which would and still will call a cat, a cat. These days are all about stinking,dull right-thinkingness, and even some so called rock critics will lay shit in that spirit you are supposed to get in Knitting Magazine...
    And if such morons write and publish that kind of crap, it's because there's an audience that's waiting for it too.

    We've known much, much better times, folks.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  4. #3
    Talks To Trees
    SUPER MODERATOR

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:34 AM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    7,701
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,785
    Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,690 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    50
    Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

    Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  5. 2 users say thank you to ZahZoo for this KICKASS post:

    Jérôme Frenchise (04-16-2019),Nitro Express (04-17-2019)


  6. #4
    Loon
    SUPER MODERATOR

    Nickdfresh's Avatar
    Member No
    8719
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:57 AM
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Age
    49
    Posts
    46,199
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,739
    Thanked 4,132 Times in 3,099 Posts


    Rep Power
    103
    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

    Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
    My. What a fucking easy, pedestrian explanation for it all...
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  7. #5
    King Of Smut
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    twonabomber's Avatar
    Member No
    28
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:28 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Age
    51
    Posts
    9,346
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    127
    Thanked 1,870 Times in 1,213 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  8. 2 users say thank you to twonabomber for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (04-16-2019),ZahZoo (04-17-2019)


  9. #6
    Fear the Elf
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    Unchainme's Avatar
    Member No
    12680
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Last Online
    07-14-2019 @ 05:06 PM
    Location
    Northeast Ohio
    Age
    30
    Posts
    7,741
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    2,016
    Thanked 531 Times in 374 Posts


    Rep Power
    27
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    My. What a fucking easy, pedestrian explanation for it all...
    Well yeah,

    That's rarely the case.

    The type of people he's describing actually are indeed underemployed, but don't have the time to blog really.

    The people that are actual blogging come from these weird WASPY/Upper class homes who have the gigs due to their economic status being able to dictate that or because of nepotism.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  10. #7
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
    There have been a dozen other articles on Roth I've read in the last couple of weeks and almost all are to one degree or another inaccurate.

    Makes you wonder how much crap you are reading about stuff you know less about...

  11. Thanked Seshmeister for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (04-16-2019)


  12. #8
    Hindsight is 2020
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    08-10-2019 @ 12:30 PM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    53,843
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,155
    Thanked 5,812 Times in 4,322 Posts


    Rep Power
    129
    I used to have "alternative nation" in my news feed, but after about a dozen consecutive shitty worse than tabloid quality articles, I blocked them out. It's like the bastard love child of MelodiCrock & Weekly World News.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  13. #9
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    That Metallica one is the worst - it's fucking ridiculous.

  14. #10
    Helen Mirren's crudder
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 07:55 PM
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Posts
    10,299
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,343
    Thanked 1,782 Times in 1,138 Posts


    Rep Power
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
    Probably as close to the truth about it all as anything else.
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  15. #11
    Helen Mirren's crudder
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 07:55 PM
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Posts
    10,299
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,343
    Thanked 1,782 Times in 1,138 Posts


    Rep Power
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
    Part of it is...there's just so much out there in terms of content. Too much.

    And, at least for me, there's a limit to how many times I can read about certain subjects. Like, I don't need to hear anything else about Nikki Sixx's heroin overdose. Or Slash's drug use. Or how fucked up Aerosmith were before they cleaned up in the 1980s. Or...like, I used to enjoy Classic Rock magazine. Haven't been buying it regularly for several years now, but at one point it seemed like every other month they were running feature-length articles on how Bon Scott supposedly "really" died. And with the inbetween months they were running feature-length articles on what supposedly "really" happened to Jim Morrison in Paris.

    I will say I did enjoy the Van Halen Rising and Monk books: at least I got some new info out of them, and they were reasonably well-written (particularly the Rising one).

  16. #12
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post

    I will say I did enjoy the Van Halen Rising and Monk books: at least I got some new info out of them, and they were reasonably well-written (particularly the Rising one).
    They were both very good and I think 100 times more reliable than anything that could come from the band members themselves.

    An example is at the time I really enjoyed the Crazy From The Heat autobiography - I lent out 2 copies of it to friends and haven't read it in a while but as I remember it opens with some crap about Dave being on his hands and knees cleaning the stage so he knows every inch of it before performing. This is less believable when you get older and find out he never even turns up for a 5 minute sound check...

  17. #13
    King Of Smut
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    twonabomber's Avatar
    Member No
    28
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:28 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Age
    51
    Posts
    9,346
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    127
    Thanked 1,870 Times in 1,213 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Part of it is...there's just so much out there in terms of content. Too much.

    And, at least for me, there's a limit to how many times I can read about certain subjects. Like, I don't need to hear anything else about Nikki Sixx's heroin overdose. Or Slash's drug use. Or how fucked up Aerosmith were before they cleaned up in the 1980s. Or...like, I used to enjoy Classic Rock magazine. Haven't been buying it regularly for several years now, but at one point it seemed like every other month they were running feature-length articles on how Bon Scott supposedly "really" died. And with the inbetween months they were running feature-length articles on what supposedly "really" happened to Jim Morrison in Paris.
    That was the difference between reading Rolling Stone and Musician magazine in the 80's/early 90's. Musician was more about (gasp!) the music and less about the OD.

    Too much content now, because there is too much space to fill. Everyone's gotta put their spin on the story, or show their personality quirk. Simply reporting isn't enough any more. It's more about the writer and less the story.

  18. #14
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    They were both very good and I think 100 times more reliable than anything that could come from the band members themselves.

    An example is at the time I really enjoyed the Crazy From The Heat autobiography - I lent out 2 copies of it to friends and haven't read it in a while but as I remember it opens with some crap about Dave being on his hands and knees cleaning the stage so he knows every inch of it before performing. This is less believable when you get older and find out he never even turns up for a 5 minute sound check...
    Haha! I remember someone was interviewing Alex and Ed and they brought up Dave's book and mentioned the part about Dave getting on his hands and knees and cleaning the stage and Alex just busted out laughing going,"Dave is full of shit! I never once saw him out cleaning the stage. Dave was usually off riding a skateboard or whatever obsession he was into at the moment."
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  19. #15
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

    Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
    Haha! What is there to understand? You have young kids with talent who build up a following. They get the attention of a talent scout for a record label. These young dumb kids will sign anything so they sign a shitty contract and get a record deal and an advance. The record company is figuring these guys will last four years and they will take their pound of flesh out of them while the kids get drunk, laid and buy fast cars. Usually the kids will end up broke and forgotten but if they manage to last they finally figure out the record company was hiding from them what they were really bringing in and they were given a small percentage of the take and not only that the manager was ripping them off and not paying the income tax. If the kids are still famous enough to get a better manager and better lawyers they wiggle out of their former lousy contract grow up a little and move on. Hopefully they still can write and produce decent songs people want to hear and put on a show people want to see. If they don't crash and burn on drugs and alcohol they may be one of the very few who have a lifetime career doing this shit.

  20. #16
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    So with the movie industry seeing that movies on rock bands and rock stars do well we will get more of those until we get sick of them. I think people are finally getting sick of the comic book super hero movies. So if VH were smart and wanted to make some more scratch they would come out with a movie. Dave would be all over that. So would Sammy. The Van Halen's who consider themselves musicians and not rock starts will hate the idea. Yeah Eddie can play and Alex can beat the drums but in reality, those two have to be the biggest party poopers on the planet. All they do is stay home and play music. Yeah that's how they got good but holy hell guys, let's have some goddammed fun for once.
    Last edited by Nitro Express; 04-17-2019 at 03:48 PM.

  21. #17
    King Of Smut
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    twonabomber's Avatar
    Member No
    28
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 07:28 PM
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Age
    51
    Posts
    9,346
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    127
    Thanked 1,870 Times in 1,213 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    There's no feel-good aspect to the Van Halen story. A movie would never work.

  22. Thanked twonabomber for this KICKASS post:

    ZahZoo (04-19-2019)


  23. #18
    Helen Mirren's crudder
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 07:55 PM
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Posts
    10,299
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,343
    Thanked 1,782 Times in 1,138 Posts


    Rep Power
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    They were both very good and I think 100 times more reliable than anything that could come from the band members themselves.

    An example is at the time I really enjoyed the Crazy From The Heat autobiography - I lent out 2 copies of it to friends and haven't read it in a while but as I remember it opens with some crap about Dave being on his hands and knees cleaning the stage so he knows every inch of it before performing. This is less believable when you get older and find out he never even turns up for a 5 minute sound check...
    Roth is just as full of (bull)shit as anybody else: he had/has some entertaining stories to tell, but I wouldn't say he is any more or less truthful than anybody else on the planet.

  24. #19
    Helen Mirren's crudder
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    Terry's Avatar
    Member No
    181
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 07:55 PM
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Posts
    10,299
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,343
    Thanked 1,782 Times in 1,138 Posts


    Rep Power
    44
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    That was the difference between reading Rolling Stone and Musician magazine in the 80's/early 90's. Musician was more about (gasp!) the music and less about the OD.

    Too much content now, because there is too much space to fill. Everyone's gotta put their spin on the story, or show their personality quirk. Simply reporting isn't enough any more. It's more about the writer and less the story.
    Which, I mean, whatever one thinks about what Frank Zappa had to say about rock journalism (something along the lines of it being interviews of people who can't think, written by people who can't write and published for people who can't read), I will say I enjoyed reading Rolling Stone magazine in the 1980s. Spin magazine too, along with the odd issue of Musician magazine. Even Guitar Player magazine back in the 70s and 80s was a fairly serious periodical, then along came Guitar World, which I initially enjoyed but it eventually turned into the monthly kiss EVH's ass bit of pulp.

    I get that tangible print mags sold in stores are a bit of an anachronism...maybe it's just that I'm not looking hard enough, but online all I seem to get are an infinite number of "best of" clickbait lists. To the point where I don't give a shit anymore. Same with podcasts: everybody and their fucking brother has one. I have neither the time nor - more importantly - the inclination to listen for 3 hours re: what Joe Rogan has to say about ANY given topic. Or listen to Eddie Trunk's daily thoughts on the entire UFO discography for the ten millionth time and why they were a criminally underappreciated band.

  25. #20
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Roth is just as full of (bull)shit as anybody else: he had/has some entertaining stories to tell, but I wouldn't say he is any more or less truthful than anybody else on the planet.
    I'd say he is less truthful than a lot of people on the planet but a lot more truthful than the Van Halens and hugely more truthful than Hagar.

    That's just a judgement call from 20 years on here...

    On the significant stuff Roth has basically been honest over the years, I'm picking up more spin these days than there used to be and I don't know if that's him or me or just the long form interviews.

  26. #21
    Hindsight is 2020
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    FORD's Avatar
    Member No
    32
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    08-10-2019 @ 12:30 PM
    Location
    Cascadia
    Posts
    53,843
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    3,155
    Thanked 5,812 Times in 4,322 Posts


    Rep Power
    129
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    So with the movie industry seeing that movies on rock bands and rock stars do well we will get more of those until we get sick of them. I think people are finally getting sick of the comic book super hero movies. So if VH were smart and wanted to make some more scratch they would come out with a movie. Dave would be all over that. So would Sammy. The Van Halen's who consider themselves musicians and not rock starts will hate the idea. Yeah Eddie can play and Alex can beat the drums but in reality, those two have to be the biggest party poopers on the planet. All they do is stay home and play music. Yeah that's how they got good but holy hell guys, let's have some goddammed fun for once.
    Bad movies are already on the way. Shortly after Bohemian Rhapsody did well at the Oscars, it was announced that a Sex Pistols biopic would be coming soon.

    Except it's not really a Pistols biopic at all, since the story will be told from the point of view of Malcolm McLaren & his ex girlfriend Vivienne Westwood. And their version of the band's story is complete crap. The Pistols themselves have completely disowned any association with the project, so if such a movie is ever made at all, look for it to be even more inaccurate than "Sid & Nancy" was. And I won't even bother to stream the thing illegally online, much less pay to see it in a theater.

    John Lydon has a brief statement regarding the film on his website....


    You may have seen recent reports of a Sex Pistols biopic. For the avoidance of doubt this film would be unauthorised, unofficial, and not endorsed by Sex Pistols.

  27. #22
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Most biopics are horrible especially music ones, the best ones are probably the least accurate about people you don't know much about...

  28. Thanked Seshmeister for this KICKASS post:

    Jetstream (04-24-2019)


  29. #23
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Most biopics are horrible especially music ones, the best ones are probably the least accurate about people you don't know much about...
    Good screenplays are hard to find period. The movie industry today runs on trends. The next big thing is perceived to be rock and roll movies. They will make a bunch of mediocre rock and roll movies and some will do well and others won’t.

    Movies are tricky. There is only so much history you can cover and things are changed and embellished to make a movie the producers think will get a return on investment.

  30. #24
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Which, I mean, whatever one thinks about what Frank Zappa had to say about rock journalism (something along the lines of it being interviews of people who can't think, written by people who can't write and published for people who can't read), I will say I enjoyed reading Rolling Stone magazine in the 1980s. Spin magazine too, along with the odd issue of Musician magazine. Even Guitar Player magazine back in the 70s and 80s was a fairly serious periodical, then along came Guitar World, which I initially enjoyed but it eventually turned into the monthly kiss EVH's ass bit of pulp.

    I get that tangible print mags sold in stores are a bit of an anachronism...maybe it's just that I'm not looking hard enough, but online all I seem to get are an infinite number of "best of" clickbait lists. To the point where I don't give a shit anymore. Same with podcasts: everybody and their fucking brother has one. I have neither the time nor - more importantly - the inclination to listen for 3 hours re: what Joe Rogan has to say about ANY given topic. Or listen to Eddie Trunk's daily thoughts on the entire UFO discography for the ten millionth time and why they were a criminally underappreciated band.
    That’s ok. It’s only rock and roll and it’s not to be taken too seriously. It was about skipping school and driving 200 miles to see a show. A bad night was drinking too much and puking. A really bad night was ending up in jail. A good night was getting your nuts blown by some slut in a cheap motel after the show.

  31. Thanked Nitro Express for this KICKASS post:

    Terry (04-18-2019)


  32. #25
    DIAMOND STATUS
    Nitro Express's Avatar
    Member No
    7682
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Last Online
    Yesterday @ 11:17 PM
    Location
    Jackson Hole, Wyoming
    Posts
    29,517
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,152
    Thanked 3,333 Times in 2,711 Posts


    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    There's no feel-good aspect to the Van Halen story. A movie would never work.
    You could make a pretty good movie on the early days of the band. I would cover the back yard party days through the club days to maybe where Ed get’s married. You could drag it out to the 1984 tour.

  33. #26
    Talks To Trees
    SUPER MODERATOR

    ZahZoo's Avatar
    Member No
    61
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:34 AM
    Location
    3rd Stone From The Sun
    Posts
    7,701
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,785
    Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,690 Posts


    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    50
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    There's no feel-good aspect to the Van Halen story. A movie would never work.
    Ain't that the truth... they missed the boat on a tragic ending and nobody wants to see a movie that ends with the core subject rusting away in someone's back yard.

  34. #27
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Seshmeister's Avatar
    Member No
    11
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Today @ 06:53 PM
    Location
    Scotland
    Age
    99
    Posts
    31,798
    Status
    Online
    Thanks
    2,370
    Thanked 8,296 Times in 5,300 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    That stuff can all be spun, look at The Dirt which shows a post Corabi Crue triumphant career.

    They could do the same with the 2007 reunion.

  35. #28
    Gimme head till I'm dead
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    Igosplut's Avatar
    Member No
    45
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    09-10-2019 @ 11:10 AM
    Location
    Cape Cod Fuckin MA
    Posts
    2,782
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    169
    Thanked 718 Times in 479 Posts


    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    There's no feel-good aspect to the Van Halen story. A movie would never work.
    Not unless it was an anger-management class exhibit film......
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

  36. #29
    Foot Soldier
    Jetstream's Avatar
    Member No
    27731
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last Online
    09-13-2019 @ 11:12 PM
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    51
    Posts
    562
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    423
    Thanked 323 Times in 166 Posts


    Rep Power
    11
    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Most biopics are horrible especially music ones, the best ones are probably the least accurate about people you don't know much about...
    Which is why a pseudo one like "This Is Spinal Tap" is great
    Hey Jackass! You need to [Register] or log in to view signatures on ROTHARMY.COM!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Is Journalism Dead in America?
    By Satan in forum The Front Line
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-30-2013, 03:07 PM
  2. Sean Hannity's Yellow Journalism
    By Nickdfresh in forum The Front Line
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: 03-03-2013, 10:53 PM
  3. No substitute for real journalism
    By FORD in forum The Front Line
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-27-2005, 12:36 AM
  4. The death cry of snob journalism
    By BigBadBrian in forum The Front Line
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-15-2004, 01:52 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •