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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35155

    Shitty rock journalism

    I have to admit I don't read massive amounts of music journalism these days but I do try and keep a passing lookout for things Roth and CVH for the sake of this forum and with the recent mild upsurge in reporting of Dave with him doing some interviews I can't believe some of the garbage that passes these days. I get that some if not all of this shit is click bait but from supposedly 'proper' music sites I've been shocked at the shitty quality.

    If I had time I would do it by category - stupid, ignorant, schoolboy errors and the ever pervasive 'fake irrelevant headline' but most are in this single abortion by some peabrain called Brett Buchanan.

    If you are reading this Brentt don't dismiss this as fanboy defence of David Lee Roth as this is not a site that shrinks away from criticism.

    Here is a typical bit of brilliant journalism from the the new Hunter S Thomson.




    Slash Reveals Disgusting Drug Use In Velvet Revolver

    By Brett Buchanan - Apr 15, 2019

    Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash discussed using drugs during his days playing with the late Scott Weiland in Velvet Revolver in a new Belfast Live interview.

    Slash revealed he struggled heavily with addiction “through the early millennium, up through 2005.”

    He said, “Velvet Revolver started and just because of the nature of the band – and it’s my own fault – but within that context it was easy to do.”

    “I got completely strung out again and at that point I realised there was nothing about being strung out that reminded me of anything like when I first started doing drugs. It was pretty miserable.”

    “And then after that, with alcohol, nothing was doing it for me and I decided I had to stop.”

    “I had two kids and I was living in a hotel because I couldn’t be around them.

    “It all sort of came to a head and I thought I needed to go to some sort of facility and just get away from everybody for a month and I’ll clean up.”

    “I really embraced it and I came out of it really happy and all that energy I was putting towards self-destruction I just put towards music.”

    Slash went to rehab in 2006 and cleaned up for good. Dave Kushner is the only member of Velvet Revolver who was sober during the band’s 5 years together.

    Slash 'reveals' drug use. Is this fucking new in 2019???? His autobiography came out over 10 years ago.

    'Disgusting' - is that just some prurient line because there is nothing in this so called piece that merits the word? Wow the fucking Helen Lovejoy of music 'journalism' has spoken.



    So a shitty pathetic pointless comment on an article/interview written by someone else.

    I mention the above to put some context on this and his other recent articles like 'Greta Van Fleet Singer Hot Shirtless Photo Revealed' and 'Metallica Make Crazy Tom Cruise Revelation' - revelation being that they did a video for a song that was briefly in a Tom Cruise movie and it was windy. Read it, I'm not exaggerating.



    So onto the new Steinbeck's David Lee Roth piece yesterday.


    Van Halen Icon Makes Bizarre Freddie Mercury Racial Remark
    By Brentt Buchanan - Apr 15, 2019




    Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth recently said that late Queen frontman Freddie Mercury sang ‘European non-black’ on the Joe Rogan Experience.

    “I saw Freddie [Mercury] live at the L.A. Forum, I was probably in the 20th row when ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ had just come out. I saw him at his major, major prime there. Stagecraft is one thing, but what Freddie was and what he brought was way more than what you saw on stage. His sensibilities in terms of music weren’t just three chords and an attitude.

    Freddie brought a whole wealth of listening to different kinds of music, whether it was orchestral, big band or bistro. He didn’t try to sing black, he sang European non-black. What we are very used to, even in the country. I had a very famous African American producer say to me, ‘do you know what it means to be a black man in the United States today?’ I said ‘every time I step up to a mic!’”
    So that counts as a bizarre racial remark about Freddie? Wow. So you are left wondering is it deliberate ignorance or not?

    It turns out that Brentt Buchanan is the owner and editor in chief of Alternativenation so the buck stops with him.

    I don't know how small or pointless niche his site is but it does seem to pop up on my feeds a hell of a lot. Hey we all have to make a living one way or another but the way to do this is surely not to write articles which are worse than an average average drunk YouTube comment?
    Last edited by Seshmeister; 04-15-2019, 09:40 PM.
  • Jérôme Frenchise
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Nov 2004
    • 7173

    #2
    Stupid, indeed. I remember that part in the radio broadcast when Dave evoked Mercury, a damn cool part btw, and heard nothing wrong.
    But then it's a matter of generations, we belong to that which would and still will call a cat, a cat. These days are all about stinking,dull right-thinkingness, and even some so called rock critics will lay shit in that spirit you are supposed to get in Knitting Magazine...
    And if such morons write and publish that kind of crap, it's because there's an audience that's waiting for it too.

    We've known much, much better times, folks.
    posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
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    • ZahZoo
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 8961

      #3
      Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

      Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49125

        #4
        Originally posted by ZahZoo
        Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

        Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
        My. What a fucking easy, pedestrian explanation for it all...

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        • twonabomber
          formerly F A T
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 11201

          #5
          Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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          • Unchainme
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Apr 2005
            • 7741

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            My. What a fucking easy, pedestrian explanation for it all...
            Well yeah,

            That's rarely the case.

            The type of people he's describing actually are indeed underemployed, but don't have the time to blog really.

            The people that are actual blogging come from these weird WASPY/Upper class homes who have the gigs due to their economic status being able to dictate that or because of nepotism.
            Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35155

              #7
              Originally posted by twonabomber
              Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
              There have been a dozen other articles on Roth I've read in the last couple of weeks and almost all are to one degree or another inaccurate.

              Makes you wonder how much crap you are reading about stuff you know less about...

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58755

                #8
                I used to have "alternative nation" in my news feed, but after about a dozen consecutive shitty worse than tabloid quality articles, I blocked them out. It's like the bastard love child of MelodiCrock & Weekly World News.
                Eat Us And Smile

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35155

                  #9
                  That Metallica one is the worst - it's fucking ridiculous.

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11957

                    #10
                    Originally posted by twonabomber
                    Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
                    Probably as close to the truth about it all as anything else.
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11957

                      #11
                      Originally posted by twonabomber
                      Like always, I see it as the internet giving every kook and amateur writer a soapbox. Us included
                      Part of it is...there's just so much out there in terms of content. Too much.

                      And, at least for me, there's a limit to how many times I can read about certain subjects. Like, I don't need to hear anything else about Nikki Sixx's heroin overdose. Or Slash's drug use. Or how fucked up Aerosmith were before they cleaned up in the 1980s. Or...like, I used to enjoy Classic Rock magazine. Haven't been buying it regularly for several years now, but at one point it seemed like every other month they were running feature-length articles on how Bon Scott supposedly "really" died. And with the inbetween months they were running feature-length articles on what supposedly "really" happened to Jim Morrison in Paris.

                      I will say I did enjoy the Van Halen Rising and Monk books: at least I got some new info out of them, and they were reasonably well-written (particularly the Rising one).
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35155

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Terry

                        I will say I did enjoy the Van Halen Rising and Monk books: at least I got some new info out of them, and they were reasonably well-written (particularly the Rising one).
                        They were both very good and I think 100 times more reliable than anything that could come from the band members themselves.

                        An example is at the time I really enjoyed the Crazy From The Heat autobiography - I lent out 2 copies of it to friends and haven't read it in a while but as I remember it opens with some crap about Dave being on his hands and knees cleaning the stage so he knows every inch of it before performing. This is less believable when you get older and find out he never even turns up for a 5 minute sound check...

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                        • twonabomber
                          formerly F A T
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11201

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Terry
                          Part of it is...there's just so much out there in terms of content. Too much.

                          And, at least for me, there's a limit to how many times I can read about certain subjects. Like, I don't need to hear anything else about Nikki Sixx's heroin overdose. Or Slash's drug use. Or how fucked up Aerosmith were before they cleaned up in the 1980s. Or...like, I used to enjoy Classic Rock magazine. Haven't been buying it regularly for several years now, but at one point it seemed like every other month they were running feature-length articles on how Bon Scott supposedly "really" died. And with the inbetween months they were running feature-length articles on what supposedly "really" happened to Jim Morrison in Paris.
                          That was the difference between reading Rolling Stone and Musician magazine in the 80's/early 90's. Musician was more about (gasp!) the music and less about the OD.

                          Too much content now, because there is too much space to fill. Everyone's gotta put their spin on the story, or show their personality quirk. Simply reporting isn't enough any more. It's more about the writer and less the story.
                          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32798

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            They were both very good and I think 100 times more reliable than anything that could come from the band members themselves.

                            An example is at the time I really enjoyed the Crazy From The Heat autobiography - I lent out 2 copies of it to friends and haven't read it in a while but as I remember it opens with some crap about Dave being on his hands and knees cleaning the stage so he knows every inch of it before performing. This is less believable when you get older and find out he never even turns up for a 5 minute sound check...
                            Haha! I remember someone was interviewing Alex and Ed and they brought up Dave's book and mentioned the part about Dave getting on his hands and knees and cleaning the stage and Alex just busted out laughing going,"Dave is full of shit! I never once saw him out cleaning the stage. Dave was usually off riding a skateboard or whatever obsession he was into at the moment."
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZahZoo
                              Those are written by college graduates who spent 4 years and $80,000 on a useless degree... who are now whining about their debt and can't get a decent job to save their life...

                              Clearly Roth understands more about the inspiration and source of musical talent than the idiots writing about it...
                              Haha! What is there to understand? You have young kids with talent who build up a following. They get the attention of a talent scout for a record label. These young dumb kids will sign anything so they sign a shitty contract and get a record deal and an advance. The record company is figuring these guys will last four years and they will take their pound of flesh out of them while the kids get drunk, laid and buy fast cars. Usually the kids will end up broke and forgotten but if they manage to last they finally figure out the record company was hiding from them what they were really bringing in and they were given a small percentage of the take and not only that the manager was ripping them off and not paying the income tax. If the kids are still famous enough to get a better manager and better lawyers they wiggle out of their former lousy contract grow up a little and move on. Hopefully they still can write and produce decent songs people want to hear and put on a show people want to see. If they don't crash and burn on drugs and alcohol they may be one of the very few who have a lifetime career doing this shit.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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