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    Biden Officially Announces Run

    Ex-Vice President Biden launches 2020 presidential campaign
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    STEVE PEOPLES and THOMAS BEAUMONT
    ,Associated Press•April 25, 2019

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden formally joined the crowded Democratic presidential contest on Thursday, betting that his working-class appeal and ties to Barack Obama's presidency will help him overcome questions about his place in today's increasingly liberal Democratic Party.

    He made his announcement in a video posted on Twitter, declaring, "We are in the battle for the soul of this nation."

    "If we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation," Biden said. "Who we are. And I cannot stand by and watch that happen."

    Thursday's announcement marks the unofficial end of the chaotic early phase of the 2020 presidential season. The field now features at least 20 Democrats jockeying for the chance to take on President Donald Trump next year. Several lesser-known candidates may still join the race.

    Biden, a 76-year-old lifelong politician, becomes an instant front-runner alongside Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is leading many polls and has proved to be a successful fundraiser . Among Democrats, Biden has unmatched international and legislative experience, and he is among the best-known faces in U.S. politics.

    But the anti-establishment wave that swept Trump into office has not been kind to either party's statesmen. Biden's team worries about his fundraising ability and his tendency to commit gaffes. His centrist approach in a party moving left on major policy debates raises questions about his appeal.

    Four years Trump's senior, Biden would be the oldest person ever elected president should he win. Yet his allies believe the skeptics will ultimately warm to his strong connections to the Obama years.

    Biden has said he would campaign as an "Obama-Biden Democrat," who is as pragmatic as he is progressive. He's aiming to be a conduit between working-class white voters and the younger, more diverse voters who backed Obama in historic numbers.

    The Republican Party wasted no time seeking to undercut Biden's record, releasing a video on Wednesday questioning economic growth under Obama and Biden while resurrecting conservative arguments against Obama's health care law and a failed investment in green energy company Solyndra.

    The video ends with the words, "Joe Biden: Backwards, not forwards."

    Yet privately, Trump allies have warned that Biden might be the biggest re-election threat given the former vice president's potential appeal among the white working class in the Midwest, the region that gave Trump a path to the presidency.

    The Republican video notably does not argue a Biden candidacy would lead to socialism, as Trump and his backers have said would happen with many in the large 2020 Democratic presidential field.

    Biden is paying special attention to Pennsylvania, a state that swung to Trump in 2016 after voting for Democratic presidential candidates for decades.

    The former vice president will be in the state three times within the opening weeks of his campaign. He'll be in Philadelphia on Thursday evening headlining a fundraiser at the home of David L. Cohen, executive senior vice president of Comcast. Biden is aiming to raise $500,000 at the event.

    He will hold an event in Pittsburgh on Monday and will return to Philadelphia in the next two weeks for a major rally.

    His plans were described by people who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss his schedule and fundraising goals.

    With a record that stretches half a century, Biden's challenges are easy to find.

    Most recently, he struggled to respond to claims that he touched 2014 Nevada lieutenant governor nominee Lucy Flores' shoulders and kissed the back of her head before a fall campaign event. A handful of other women have made similar claims, though none has alleged sexual misconduct.

    Biden initially said he didn't recall the Flores incident but credited her with coming forward. He took a different approach in a subsequent statement, saying, "Never did I believe I acted inappropriately."

    Biden later pledged in an online video to be "much more mindful" of respecting personal space but joked two days later that he "had permission" to hug a male union leader before addressing the group's national conference.

    The episode offered a stark reminder of Biden's proclivity to gaffes and his long record in public office that has never felt the full glare of the spotlight that comes along with being a presidential front-runner.

    His first White House bid in 1988 ended after a plagiarism scandal. He dropped out of the 2008 race after earning less than 1 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucuses. Later that year, Obama named Biden as his running mate.

    More recently, Biden's willingness to work with Republicans has caused him political headaches.

    He was forced to walk back a comment last month that Vice President Mike Pence is "a decent guy" after intense blowback from liberal activists upset with Pence's opposition to gay rights.

    In recent weeks, Biden also has been repeatedly forced to explain his 1991 decision, as Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, to allow Anita Hill to face difficult questions from an all-male panel about allegations of sexual harassment against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, who later was confirmed to the high court.

    Biden has since apologized for his role in the hearing. But in the #MeToo era, particularly after the contentious confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the episode remains a significant political liability.

    Likewise, Biden once played a key role in anti-crime legislation that had a disproportionately negative impact on African Americans. And while several 2020 Democratic contenders have embraced the possibility of reparations to African Americans for slavery in recent weeks, Biden last month struggled to explain comments he made as a freshman senator in 1975 about the school busing debate.

    Biden's 2020 bid comes four years after he opted against challenging Hillary Clinton in the 2016 Democratic contest.

    In a book he wrote about conversations with his dying son, he opened up about the difficult choice to sit out the last presidential race: abandon a careerlong quest for the presidency or lose precious time with a family he'd held together through tragedy, from his first wife's and his daughter's deaths in a 1972 car accident to son Beau Biden's 2015 death from cancer.

    "He was worried that what I'd worked on my whole life, the things that mattered to me the most since I was a kid, that I'd walk away," Biden said of his son.

    Ultimately, the draw to take on Trump in 2020 was too strong.

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    Beaumont reported from Des Moines, Iowa.

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    Would it not be easier to just say who isn't running?
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    Thanks for the update, I would have never known. Like this isn't posted on every website on the internet.
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    Joe Biden - calls himself a "working class guy" and then officially launches his campaign with a fundraiser connected to one of the most hated corporations in the country (Scumca$t). What, were all the credit company CEOs out of the country??
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    It's never a good idea to base your entire campaign on a complete lie.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ng_139956.html

    The Trump-Charlottesville 'Moral Equivalency' Lie the Left Keeps Telling
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    "In his widely misquoted press conference three days after Charlottesville, Trump said there were "very fine people" on "both sides" of the issue of whether it is appropriate to display Confederate monuments in pubic locations. Here is what Trump said: "Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name." In case there was any doubt, Trump, in response to another question, said, "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally" (emphasis added)."
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    Joe Biden steals MAGA slogan from Trump.

    Quote "America’s coming back like we used to be"

    Apparently he also wants the old U.S. of non-voting women, slavery etc.

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    It's a dumb slogan that appeals to older voters.

    Trump stole it from Reagan. Clinton used it as well apparently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's a dumb slogan that appeals to older voters.
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    It might appeal to Biden...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Schultz View Post
    Joe Biden steals MAGA slogan from Trump.

    Quote "America’s coming back like we used to be"

    Apparently he also wants the old U.S. of non-voting women, slavery etc.
    You're just jealous he's trying to steal the Republican Party's official platform...

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    gerontocracy noun

    ger·​on·​toc·​ra·​cy | \ ˌjer-ən-ˈtä-krə-sē \
    plural gerontocracies
    Definition of gerontocracy

    : rule by elders
    specifically : a form of social organization in which a group of old men or a council of elders dominates or exercises control

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    Corporatist Piece of Shit Cuomo Promises to Bankroll "Working Class Joe"

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    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo plans to open his formidable fundraising network to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign
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    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has raised millions of dollars during his campaigns over the years, has indicated to associates in recent days that he will be opening his vast and powerful fundraising network exclusively to Joe Biden, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter.

    Biden officially launched his campaign Thursday, after months of speculation.

    “Andrew is all in for Joe. He is pushing his entire network that way – political and funding,” said a person who has spoken to Cuomo recently. This person declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the conversations.

    A top party donor who has spoken to Cuomo advisors told CNBC, “Biden is going to have a formidable fundraising operation through, in part, Cuomo.”

    Cuomo’s support could be a game changer for Biden. While the former vice president has consistently led Democratic primary polls, he has been aggressively courting donors in a bid to catch up to an already crowded primary field that has a head start in the fundraising game. New York State Board of Elections data show Cuomo has raked in $100 million in campaign contributions since he first ran for governor in 2010. At least 80 percent of his backers have given him $10,000 or more, records show.

    Cuomo’s wealthy donor network spans the country and the business world. Past donors include movie mogul Steven Spielberg, Walmart heiress Alice Walton and hedge fund titan Steve Cohen. Cuomo also has received support from companies such as Cablevision, real estate giant the Durst Organization and Canadian real estate firm Brookfield Asset Management.

    A Cuomo representative and Biden’s campaign both declined to comment.

    “I think he [Biden] has the best chance of defeating President Trump, which I think is the main goal here,” Cuomo said earlier this week.

    Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell is also helping Biden and was slated to host a fundraising event for the former vice president Thursday in Philadelphia.

    Biden’s rivals in the Democratic primary already have a quarter of fundraising in the books. Sen. Bernie Sanders led the way with $18 million.

    Some are amassing the support of party bundlers. South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has at least two dozen Democratic fundraisers for his 2020 campaign, with many of his bundlers formerly being supporters of former President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, CNBC first reported. Sen. Kamala Harris reportedly has more than 100 bundlers backing her campaign for president.

    The Democratic field has a lot of ground to make up compared with President Donald Trump, however. Trump’s campaign hauled in $30 million during the first quarter.

    Trump welcomed Biden to the race Thursday with a snarky tweet that insulted the former vice president’s intelligence and mocked him as “Sleepy Joe.”

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    Joe Biden will get the big money. Bernie Sanders may be the people's choice but they will kick Bernie to the curve again. Joe is going to compete with Trump for the working class vote. Middle America and the rust best will be the battle ground. You might even have Mitt Romney run as an independent to help put Joe over the top. Both the Republican and Democrat parties are owned. Bernie Sander is too honest. He really is a socialist and is very honest about it. Not the type of guy the big banks or corporations want in the presidency. Especially now when the presidency has become more powerful than ever.

    It will be a Biden and Trump showdown and it will be close. Trump has AIPAC and a good share of the military industrial complex in his corner but Biden has strong backers as well and Joe has a good strategy. You will see Joe drinking cheap beer with people wearing hard hats and hanging with average people. Something Hillary was never good at. Joe is going hard and heavy for the lunchbox vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah. Much of the campaign will be a debate over who fondles more. Biden or Trump but your buddy Bernie ain't making it to the finals. The Democrat Party is too corrupt and bought off to allow that.

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    People pretty much vote their pocket book. This campaign will be over who's going to help middle America the most. Most the jobs Trump created are low paying jobs and the stock market is up because companies are buying their stocks back with the money they saved with the lower taxes. So Joe has to convince Bobby Bumblefuck in Michigan he's going to get a little more from Uncle Joe than the orange dude with bad hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
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    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo plans to open his formidable fundraising network to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign
    Brian Schwartz
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    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has raised millions of dollars during his campaigns over the years, has indicated to associates in recent days that he will be opening his vast and powerful fundraising network exclusively to Joe Biden, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter.

    Biden officially launched his campaign Thursday, after months of speculation.

    “Andrew is all in for Joe. He is pushing his entire network that way – political and funding,” said a person who has spoken to Cuomo recently. This person declined to be named because of the sensitivity of the conversations.

    A top party donor who has spoken to Cuomo advisors told CNBC, “Biden is going to have a formidable fundraising operation through, in part, Cuomo.”

    Cuomo’s support could be a game changer for Biden. While the former vice president has consistently led Democratic primary polls, he has been aggressively courting donors in a bid to catch up to an already crowded primary field that has a head start in the fundraising game. New York State Board of Elections data show Cuomo has raked in $100 million in campaign contributions since he first ran for governor in 2010. At least 80 percent of his backers have given him $10,000 or more, records show.

    Cuomo’s wealthy donor network spans the country and the business world. Past donors include movie mogul Steven Spielberg, Walmart heiress Alice Walton and hedge fund titan Steve Cohen. Cuomo also has received support from companies such as Cablevision, real estate giant the Durst Organization and Canadian real estate firm Brookfield Asset Management.

    A Cuomo representative and Biden’s campaign both declined to comment.

    “I think he [Biden] has the best chance of defeating President Trump, which I think is the main goal here,” Cuomo said earlier this week.

    Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell is also helping Biden and was slated to host a fundraising event for the former vice president Thursday in Philadelphia.

    Biden’s rivals in the Democratic primary already have a quarter of fundraising in the books. Sen. Bernie Sanders led the way with $18 million.

    Some are amassing the support of party bundlers. South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has at least two dozen Democratic fundraisers for his 2020 campaign, with many of his bundlers formerly being supporters of former President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, CNBC first reported. Sen. Kamala Harris reportedly has more than 100 bundlers backing her campaign for president.

    The Democratic field has a lot of ground to make up compared with President Donald Trump, however. Trump’s campaign hauled in $30 million during the first quarter.

    Trump welcomed Biden to the race Thursday with a snarky tweet that insulted the former vice president’s intelligence and mocked him as “Sleepy Joe.”
    Yup. Joe Biden is the anointed one. Bernie does well on the grass roots level but he can't win running as an independent and the Democrat Party will kill him off with the super delegates again. It's a rigged system. Bernie will probably be more popular than Joe but it doesn't matter. The problem you have running as an independent is you can't get on all the ballots without going county to county. It takes a large operation of organized people and lots of money. Each county has its own protocols. It's a nightmare.

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    So it's the "Grab em by the pussy" guy vs. I fondle everyone guy.

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    Yup. Biden is the establishment candidate. Unless there is some huge scandal or illness it's going to be a Biden vs Trump race. People who don't like Joe will still pull the handle for him because they hate Trump more. You usually don't vote for someone you usually vote against someone. So Joe will automatically get a lot of votes from people who actually don't like him by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Didn't Bernie's last campaign have a lot of allegations of sexual harassment? Or is he above all reapproach? Wasn't his fault?

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    If you define yourself as a liberal, there's precious little to be enthused about with Biden's candidacy.

    He has been an unapologetic, straight-up corporate centrist his entire career.

    He has a bit too much in common with Hillary for my liking. The same inability to give a rousing speech. A general lack of enthusiasm for him outside of the donor class, beltway and mainstream media...you know, with the folks who actually vote on election day. On a personal level, Biden projects a bit more warmth and likability than Hillary was ever able to, so that's something, I suppose. The underlying theme of Biden's campaign thus far appears to be not any grand social Moonshot plans, but a return to stability after Donald Trump. The problem with that is Hillary ran on the same basic theme 3 years ago and lost.

    Biden will be able to raise the funds to be competitive on a financial level, but I remember how Hillary outspent Trump roughly 2:1 in 2016, and all that didn't matter in the end.

    Clearly, Biden's campaign should in theory be able to avoid the mistakes Hillary's made, but I think 2020 will hinge less on Biden and more on how many less extreme Republican voters in certain states who cast their lot with Trump in 2016 have been disenchanted with Trump to the point where they are going to stay home on Election Day.
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    You could walk into any bar, mall or prison in the US pick someone at random and 99/100 they would be a better option than Trump.

    Take out the prison option and the odds are way better.

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    Yeah, well, I won't disagree with that in theory.

    In terms of the various (often misguided - e.g. "which candidate would I prefer to have a beer with?" - ) rationales behind why people vote for one candidate over another, as of this moment Trump has a better than even chance a year from now the way I see it.

    I mean, I haven't even mentioned how Biden has never caught fire as a national candidate when he ran for the presidency in 1988...or 2008.

    Trump voters look at their guy as a cause candidate, even if the cause for some Trump voters is nothing more than to give the middle finger to the established order. Biden will never engender the degree of loyalty from those willing to vote for him that Trump got from his supporters. Biden is basically playing the "I'm not Trump" card. It wasn't enough to put Hillary over the top 3 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Didn't Bernie's last campaign have a lot of allegations of sexual harassment? Or is he above all reapproach? Wasn't his fault?
    Well, for one thing the allegations weren't against Bernie himself. Nobody's accusing him of being grabby. As far as anybody expecting him to micro manage low level campaign staffers who might do something stupid when they're drinking after a primary or convention or whatever, that's not realistic. You can set "no tolerance" policies before hand or whatever, but people are ultimately responsible for their own behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Well, for one thing the allegations weren't against Bernie himself. Nobody's accusing him of being grabby. As far as anybody expecting him to micro manage low level campaign staffers who might do something stupid when they're drinking after a primary or convention or whatever, that's not realistic. You can set "no tolerance" policies before hand or whatever, but people are ultimately responsible for their own behavior.
    I know he wasn't personally accused, hell I'd be impressed if that pseudo-"socialist"was still such a randy old bastard. But it does seem a bit troubling, like a bunch of "liberal" young guys that can't get laid and join a campaign and expect chicks to be impressed with them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    In terms of the various (often misguided - e.g. "which candidate would I prefer to have a beer with?" - ) rationales behind why people vote for one candidate over another,
    Particularly crazy when it's guys voting for Sarah Palin because of her looks.

    Would you choose your surgeon based on how well you think you would get on with them socially?

    Also this imaginary beer with GW Bush I could understand but Trump???

    Interesting to note both don't trust themselves enough to even be able to have a beer...

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    Notice certain polls show Biden way ahead of Bernie. Biden looks like a corpse, he’s creepy and he slurs his speech like he has brain damage or nerve damage from a stroke. It’s pretty clear Biden is “the chosen one” of the big money and corporations. Joe can be bought and controlled. Of course Bernie still has to get passed the super delegates. They will throw Bernie under the bus and run another corpse and the corpse will lose to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Notice certain polls show Biden way ahead of Bernie. Biden looks like a corpse, he’s creepy and he slurs his speech like he has brain damage or nerve damage from a stroke. It’s pretty clear Biden is “the chosen one” of the big money and corporations. Joe can be bought and controlled. Of course Bernie still has to get passed the super delegates. They will throw Bernie under the bus and run another corpse and the corpse will lose to Trump.
    You like to think of yourself as a logical cool headed voter (don't we all) but you aren't at all.

    You apply a completely different bias when comparing Trump to Biden or whoever because you are not a free thinking voter you are a tribal Republican and always have and will be. That's as it is and maybe a cool thing about this forum in the current climate because it's one of the few places in the internet where people from different 'bubbles' and tribes still discuss stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Notice certain polls show Biden way ahead of Bernie.
    Those polls are blatantly bullshit. They literally didn't count the opinions of anybody under 55. Probably only called landlines.

    This whole thing is starting to remind me of 2004 though, when Judas IsKerryot was in the bottom of the basement in the poll numbers, and suddenly the corporate media proclaims him the "front runner" , based on nothing (other than their hatred of Howard Dean... which is only exceeded by their hatred of Bernie Sanders.)

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    Not all polls are accurate by a long shot.

    Best place to judge them at I think is 538 who rate them all for accuracy A to F

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

    Biden is significantly ahead in every recent poll but it's far too early to be worrying about polls, at this point the main selling point is just that people have heard of the candidate.

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    538 isn't what it used to be either. They totally botched their predictions in 2016, and Nate & his crew are horribly biased towards the Turd Way/DLC candidates. He used to just go by the mathematical analysis, but he's let his bias get in the way in recent years.

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    I don't think they did totally botch their predictions in 2016. I was pretty worried going into the election because they were saying Trump had a 28% chance of winning. That's a pretty decent chance, people got confused into thinking Clinton having a better than 70% chance of winning somehow meant she would definitely win - I blame poor math education among journalists.

    Trump lost the popular vote and the good polls were only one or two percentage points out.

    With all due respect you may find him biased now because he is saying things you don't want to hear...

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