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    Roth's Not Talking

    Dave's publicizing that he's not talking, but meeting with the Van Halens in the next week or so...

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    In other words, he's meeting the Bros soon, but was asked to keep his mouth shut about it.

    Well, this must be taken with a lot of wariness... as usual.

    And it doesn't feel the same as the "Get ready" thing a few years ago.
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    It's a whole lot of nothing... but it's still more interesting than silence...

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    He actually is sort of talking, but FFS would you want to make definitive statements regarding the plans of Ed and Alex Van Halen?
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    Question is can he sing?? ...and I think we all know the answer.
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    He's always put more effort in the studio than on stage vocally. I am sure he will sound great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairwrning View Post
    Question is can he sing?? ...and I think we all know the answer.
    Compared to his contemporaries like Ozzy and Paul Stanley, Dave will be fine.

    Ozzy and KISS still pack crowds at shows despite the fact that both lead singers cant sing anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Compared to his contemporaries like Ozzy and Paul Stanley, Dave will be fine.

    Ozzy and KISS still pack crowds at shows despite the fact that both lead singers cant sing anymore.
    I've been to KISS two weeks ago. In fact, Stanley improved a bit but they back it up heavily. Dave can stand this ground any day of the week. He will do fine in the studio.

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    Dave's not shy about talking on YouTube. I can't keep up.
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    Sorry but the KI$$ tour is completely mimed.

    What you saw was not live music.
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    Not surprising actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Sorry but the KI$$ tour is completely mimed.

    What you saw was not live music.
    Partly true. There are bits and pieces they play live. And Paul's "LISTON PEOPLE"-rants are still live. His voice was not that much of a disaster like it was the last time in 2014.

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    So his voice in between songs was better than usual?

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    There is a recent KISS show in Kiev.

    A total disaster. Stanley actually waited until the canned vocals would kick in on the opener DRC and when they didn't he had to resort to his shot voice.

    It was pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    There is a recent KISS show in Kiev.

    A total disaster. Stanley actually waited until the canned vocals would kick in on the opener DRC and when they didn't he had to resort to his shot voice.

    It was pathetic.


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    Watch. Gene will sell a KISS karaoke machine with canned Paul vocals on tap. Also some padded KISS condoms to make you look bigger than your are.

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    Looks like they are Milli KISSinilli now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Looks like they are Milli KISSinilli now.
    To be fair, they are miming their own vocals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    To be fair, they are miming their own vocals...
    Really doesn't matter. People go to a KISS show to watch a bunch of stuff blow up on stage. Hell when you are watching explosions while drunk and high, you really don't care about the vocals. Hell. You might not remember most of the concert. You will probably be wondering how you got home and who's panties ended up in your backset.

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    That's ok though. Sam likes a man who takes it up the ass with a smile. Mike is hairy and can really scream. To Sammy that's a gimp from heaven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Really doesn't matter. People go to a KISS show to watch a bunch of stuff blow up on stage. Hell when you are watching explosions while drunk and high, you really don't care about the vocals. Hell. You might not remember most of the concert. You will probably be wondering how you got home and who's panties ended up in your backset.
    Nobody is drunk and high at a KISS show these days. Come on now.

    Majority of concert goers at their shows comprise of casual fans with diehards who now bring their kids.

    Its not 1977.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Nobody is drunk and high at a KISS show these days. Come on now.

    Majority of concert goers at their shows comprise of casual fans with diehards who now bring their kids.

    Its not 1977.
    Wow. What a drag. Sounds boring.

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    One has to wonder if the VH meeting Dave was eluding to this week, has any relation to the Michael Anthony interview that just surfaced..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    One has to wonder if the VH meeting Dave was eluding to this week, has any relation to the Michael Anthony interview that just surfaced..?
    Mike is the perfect example of nice guys finish last. VH screwed him raw. He just bent over and smiled as they stole his royalties. The guy at one time got a equal fifth of what the band made. Mike should have just said, "I'm not signing shit motherfuckers. Have fun on stage without me." They would have freaked. You can replace the bass playing easy enough but your can't replace those vocals. Of course with Wolfie Mike can't pull that move but I bet VH gave Mike a shit deal and he said fuck this shit, I will just stay in Sammy's circle jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Mike is the perfect example of nice guys finish last. VH screwed him raw. He just bent over and smiled as they stole his royalties. The guy at one time got a equal fifth of what the band made. Mike should have just said, "I'm not signing shit motherfuckers. Have fun on stage without me." They would have freaked. You can replace the bass playing easy enough but your can't replace those vocals. Of course with Wolfie Mike can't pull that move but I bet VH gave Mike a shit deal and he said fuck this shit, I will just stay in Sammy's circle jerk.
    I'm of the opinion Mike's finished first more than any of the VH band members... Sure, he was fucked over by the Van Halen Brothers™, but he didn't crawl off and cry. Just found ways to continue having fun making music, working with many of the greatest legends in the rock music business and enjoying life in general. Appears to me, Mike's remained in a far better place in life than the 3 other founding members of the band combined. And that's even with his wagon hitched to Hagar...

    Say what you will... more albums, tours, positive fan interactions, endorsements and performances in the last 15 years. Check the scores... Mike's so far in the lead the rest aren't even in the ball park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I'm of the opinion Mike's finished first more than any of the VH band members... Sure, he was fucked over by the Van Halen Brothers™, but he didn't crawl off and cry. Just found ways to continue having fun making music, working with many of the greatest legends in the rock music business and enjoying life in general. Appears to me, Mike's remained in a far better place in life than the 3 other founding members of the band combined. And that's even with his wagon hitched to Hagar...

    Say what you will... more albums, tours, positive fan interactions, endorsements and performances in the last 15 years. Check the scores... Mike's so far in the lead the rest aren't even in the ball park.
    I'm looking at it from a business perspective. But yeah as far as a quality family life and being happy Mike has em all beat. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I'm looking at it from a business perspective. But yeah as far as a quality family life and being happy Mike has em all beat. Absolutely.
    That right there... sums up the ultimate qualities in life that I can appreciate and admire.

    From a business perspective, Mike invested wisely, owned businesses he had a passion for and succeeded in that realm too. Not a bazillionare, but successful, none the less.

    The only thing Roth and the Van Halen brothers scored more of compared to Mike... regrets, isolation, bitterness and wasted decades of productive life. Pure losers in my book...

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    Mike has this level of passivity about all the shit that went down...I don't get it, other than maybe by the time Ed finally gave him the boot [Mike] was content to just be done with it and move on. One can't imagine the last several years he was employed by the band - which is basically what he was after Hagar left, an employee - were particularly satisfying. Conventional wisdom is that he didn't even play on Van Halen III. After the Van Halen III tour ended, the band did fuck all. The Van Halens didn't even want him on that last tour with Hagar in 2004, and considering the quality of the shows on that tour had Anthony sat it out he might have been better off.

    When one reads Monk's book and the details about how Roth and the Van Halens forced Anthony to sign to a smaller percentage of the publishing going forward from 1984 on, it seems Anthony was kept on a short 'take it or leave it' leash by the Van Halens for a good twenty years before they unceremoniously chucked him out and replaced him with Ed's kid: Ed apparently doesn't consider what Anthony brought to the group as being in the least bit valuable. Anthony has had little to no contact with Roth for the past 35 years. All of which begs the question as to why Anthony would be itching to reunite with the band for what will doubtless be a pittance in terms of the wage offered by the Van Halens for doing so?

    I mean, for all the snide remarks about Mike Anthony being Hagar's butt boy, at least Mike gets to play regularly with a group of guys who he has fun with and who appreciate what he brings to the group. The only reason I can see Anthony at this point wanting to even temporarily trade that off for a Van Halen reunion is that he would be doing it for the fans (because one gets the sense that Anthony actually would be willing to do it for the fans: contrast that with the attitude the Van Halens have toward their fans) and he would get paid well. Anything short of that, why bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Mike has this level of passivity about all the shit that went down...I don't get it, other than maybe by the time Ed finally gave him the boot [Mike] was content to just be done with it and move on. One can't imagine the last several years he was employed by the band - which is basically what he was after Hagar left, an employee - were particularly satisfying. Conventional wisdom is that he didn't even play on Van Halen III. After the Van Halen III tour ended, the band did fuck all. The Van Halens didn't even want him on that last tour with Hagar in 2004, and considering the quality of the shows on that tour had Anthony sat it out he might have been better off.

    When one reads Monk's book and the details about how Roth and the Van Halens forced Anthony to sign to a smaller percentage of the publishing going forward from 1984 on, it seems Anthony was kept on a short 'take it or leave it' leash by the Van Halens for a good twenty years before they unceremoniously chucked him out and replaced him with Ed's kid: Ed apparently doesn't consider what Anthony brought to the group as being in the least bit valuable. Anthony has had little to no contact with Roth for the past 35 years. All of which begs the question as to why Anthony would be itching to reunite with the band for what will doubtless be a pittance in terms of the wage offered by the Van Halens for doing so?

    I mean, for all the snide remarks about Mike Anthony being Hagar's butt boy, at least Mike gets to play regularly with a group of guys who he has fun with and who appreciate what he brings to the group. The only reason I can see Anthony at this point wanting to even temporarily trade that off for a Van Halen reunion is that he would be doing it for the fans (because one gets the sense that Anthony actually would be willing to do it for the fans: contrast that with the attitude the Van Halens have toward their fans) and he would get paid well. Anything short of that, why bother?
    Mike is a get up there and jam guy. The Van Halen's are studio wankers. Roth is a recluse who seems to have to have everything planned out and tightly controlled. Dave don't spontaniously fill in or jump up on stage. Mike and Sam are spontaneous the rest of the VH dudes aren't. That's the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Mike is a get up there and jam guy. The Van Halen's are studio wankers. Roth is a recluse who seems to have to have everything planned out and tightly controlled. Dave don't spontaniously fill in or jump up on stage. Mike and Sam are spontaneous the rest of the VH dudes aren't. That's the difference.
    Yeah whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Yeah whatever.

    FUCK Bassplayer and his wife Bette Midler.
    Yeah but at least they go out and jam. They aren’t afraid to sit in or do a spontaneous jam. Eddie has become a guitar and amp manufacture. He’s a brand name but nobody see’s the guy or his brother. Roth is a strange recluse. He’s become the strange old man who wears bad suits and reminds everyone he once was in Van Halen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Yeah whatever.

    FUCK Bassplayer and his wife Bette Midler.
    Meh...I'm sort of at the point where Hagar and Mike can say or do whatever, and I can't be bothered getting angry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Meh...I'm sort of at the point where Hagar and Mike can say or do whatever, and I can't be bothered getting angry about it.
    I ain't angry. Just a statement. lol

    You have to admit, MA's "nice guy" persona is annoying not to mention his association with Sam.

    Ed and Al will always be jerks and Dave can be a handful but Mike shouldn't be without criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Mike has this level of passivity about all the shit that went down...I don't get it, other than maybe by the time Ed finally gave him the boot [Mike] was content to just be done with it and move on. One can't imagine the last several years he was employed by the band - which is basically what he was after Hagar left, an employee - were particularly satisfying. Conventional wisdom is that he didn't even play on Van Halen III. After the Van Halen III tour ended, the band did fuck all. The Van Halens didn't even want him on that last tour with Hagar in 2004, and considering the quality of the shows on that tour had Anthony sat it out he might have been better off.

    When one reads Monk's book and the details about how Roth and the Van Halens forced Anthony to sign to a smaller percentage of the publishing going forward from 1984 on, it seems Anthony was kept on a short 'take it or leave it' leash by the Van Halens for a good twenty years before they unceremoniously chucked him out and replaced him with Ed's kid: Ed apparently doesn't consider what Anthony brought to the group as being in the least bit valuable. Anthony has had little to no contact with Roth for the past 35 years. All of which begs the question as to why Anthony would be itching to reunite with the band for what will doubtless be a pittance in terms of the wage offered by the Van Halens for doing so?

    I mean, for all the snide remarks about Mike Anthony being Hagar's butt boy, at least Mike gets to play regularly with a group of guys who he has fun with and who appreciate what he brings to the group. The only reason I can see Anthony at this point wanting to even temporarily trade that off for a Van Halen reunion is that he would be doing it for the fans (because one gets the sense that Anthony actually would be willing to do it for the fans: contrast that with the attitude the Van Halens have toward their fans) and he would get paid well. Anything short of that, why bother?
    I don't take anything Noel Monk says as necessarily true.

    First off, at the end of the book, he claims Dave RELEASED EAS before leaving Van Halen and that was the final straw. The fucking manager doesn't even know the truth.

    Secondly, he spends a lot of time defending himself about not having stolen from VH, even though nobody in VH ever publicly accused him of anything.

    If he doesn't even remember Dave made EAS after VH released 5150, how can anyone take him seriously.

    Thirdly, Sammy said the VH brothers cut Mike out of his share in around 1993 / 1994 (around the time of FUCK). Well if Mike was already cut out 10 years earlier, how did he gain back his equal share in between? No way the VH asshole brothers would have given Mike his equal share back in the interim.

    I don't necessarily believe Sammy, but I sure don't trust a greedy little manager who never deserved 20% of the band's take in the first place.

    I'm surprised nobody caught Monk's total misrepresentation of when Dave released EAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
    I don't take anything Noel Monk says as necessarily true.
    I agree, he does show some moments of faulty memory. For instance, some of what he said about VH's South American tour circa the Diver Down era doesn't jibe with the bootlegs and concert chronology...

    First off, at the end of the book, he claims Dave RELEASED EAS before leaving Van Halen and that was the final straw. The fucking manager doesn't even know the truth.

    Secondly, he spends a lot of time defending himself about not having stolen from VH, even though nobody in VH ever publicly accused him of anything.

    If he doesn't even remember Dave made EAS after VH released 5150, how can anyone take him seriously.

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    I'm surprised nobody caught Monk's total misrepresentation of when Dave released EAS.
    I'm not sure what the fuck you are talking about here. I just paged through Ch. 18 of Monk's RWTD and he says nothing of the sort. What he does say is that he worked on Dave's "EP" and mentions "Crazy from the Heat" and (paraphrasing) "hating every song of it even while promoting the hell out of it". I didn't see him mention Eat 'Em and Smile at all, and he scantly touches on Dave's solo career and the Van Hagar era as for him this was the end. I do recall him mentioning being the in the same club as Dave while managing his forgotten follow-up band in the late 80's and Dave having his security asking Monk to leave and being a cunt, but not sure where that was in the book...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I agree, he does show some moments of faulty memory. For instance, some of what he said about VH's South American tour circa the Diver Down era doesn't jibe with the bootlegs and concert chronology...



    I'm not sure what the fuck you are talking about here. I just paged through Ch. 18 of Monk's RWTD and he says nothing of the sort. What he does say is that he worked on Dave's "EP" and mentions "Crazy from the Heat" and (paraphrasing) "hating every song of it even while promoting the hell out of it". I didn't see him mention Eat 'Em and Smile at all, and he scantly touches on Dave's solo career and the Van Hagar era as for him this was the end. I do recall him mentioning being the in the same club as Dave while managing his forgotten follow-up band in the late 80's and Dave having his security asking Monk to leave and being a cunt, but not sure where that was in the book...
    Yes, Monk is referring to CFTH, not EEAS. By which time he was gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Yes, Monk is referring to CFTH, not EEAS. By which time he was gone.
    Exactly, and he's quite explicit about it because he worked on the fucking thing and promoted it for Dave despite thinking the actual content, if not idea, what shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I agree, he does show some moments of faulty memory. For instance, some of what he said about VH's South American tour circa the Diver Down era doesn't jibe with the bootlegs and concert chronology...



    I'm not sure what the fuck you are talking about here. I just paged through Ch. 18 of Monk's RWTD and he says nothing of the sort. What he does say is that he worked on Dave's "EP" and mentions "Crazy from the Heat" and (paraphrasing) "hating every song of it even while promoting the hell out of it". I didn't see him mention Eat 'Em and Smile at all, and he scantly touches on Dave's solo career and the Van Hagar era as for him this was the end. I do recall him mentioning being the in the same club as Dave while managing his forgotten follow-up band in the late 80's and Dave having his security asking Monk to leave and being a cunt, but not sure where that was in the book...
    He certainly did say it in the book. I'll look for it, but not right at the moment.

    I read the book in one day, and that jumped right out at me and is why I don't trust anything the greedy little managr says.

    He is bitter and I don't believe anything he says if there isn't any other existing evidence of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
    He certainly did say it in the book. I'll look for it, but not right at the moment.

    I read the book in one day, and that jumped right out at me and is why I don't trust anything the greedy little managr says.

    He is bitter and I don't believe anything he says if there isn't any other existing evidence of it.
    He's talking about Crazy from the Heat you dolt!

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