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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Do you really believe that you can connect the dots from electing a person to a political office in the US to significantly changing human activity in the Amazon... that's a hell of a leap or one great hallucination!
    Yeah, its fucking something called policies. I mean, really? Do I have to explain civics to an old man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    You can’t do anything either. If you can turn that outdated port in the snow belt called Buffalo, New York around I will be impressed. Let’s see where you are in five years.
    It's already turning around numbnuts, unlike that cultural wasteland you live in. The waterfront is blowing up and we're one of the largest destinations for college educated millennials..

    Here's a primer from two years ago that's already outdated: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/article...elt-resurgence

    And I think you're beating us in snowfall right now. It'll be a month before I even bother to put the tires on my car...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It's already turning around numbnuts, unlike that cultural wasteland you live in. The waterfront is blowing up and we're one of the largest destinations for college educated millennials..

    Here's a primer from two years ago that's already outdated: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/article...elt-resurgence

    And I think you're beating us in snowfall right now. It'll be a month before I even bother to put the tires on my car...
    Ahem. We are a ski resort. Let it snow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Ahem. We are a ski resort. Let it snow!
    There's nothing wrong with that! Let it snow indeed. (but fuck only from Christmas to January 15th)...

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    I wouldn’t call a bunch of young people with gobs of student loan debt buying cheap subsidized housing a turn around. Neither is selling microbrews on the water front. Let’s see where it is in five to ten years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I wouldn’t call a bunch of young people with gobs of student loan debt buying cheap subsidized housing a turn around. Neither is selling microbrews on the water front. Let’s see where it is in five to ten years.
    It's not "subsidized housing" dummy. The real estate market here has skyrocketed in the last ten years and most of the city is gentrifying. The arguments are other other way, that like a mini-San Francisco, the poor will be pushed out but that's not an issue for at least another 10 years, when the East Side will be pushed into and bought up. And selling microbrews is great everywhere....

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    There are government subsidies available to buy homes in certain parts of Buffalo. The millennials are buying there because it’s cheap. College graduated millennials have a lot of debt and millennials in general are cash poor.

    So to turn Buffalo around you have to replace the industries that were lost. Elon Musk built a large plant there but we will see where that goes. If all those move ins can start and run productive businesses then great but it will take ten years to see how that is going.

    Meanwhile the economic engine of the US has migrated down south. People are leaving New York because of high taxes and over regulation. You have businesses leaving California as well.

    New York really isn’t the go to place for anything anymore. It’s a has been. Buffalo’s hey day was 100 years ago.

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    You may say that but New York is still first or second highest state for GDP per capita.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...GDP_per_capita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    There are government subsidies available to buy homes in certain parts of Buffalo. The millennials are buying there because itís cheap. College graduated millennials have a lot of debt and millennials in general are cash poor.
    Based on what? Where? What are the statistics?

    So to turn Buffalo around you have to replace the industries that were lost. Elon Musk built a large plant there but we will see where that goes. If all those move ins can start and run productive businesses then great but it will take ten years to see how that is going.
    No, you don't. Elon Musk didn't build anything, he inherited the plant from taking over Solar City after they got massive subsidies to build a plant and bring high wage jobs in, which is mixed and uncertain at best. Buffalo's future is as a medical and technology corridor, and as a university/research town. Technology is how you build now, not by trying to recreate the past. Although industries are moving back slowly, because you have a motivated, relatively educated workforce with a work ethic...

    Meanwhile the economic engine of the US has migrated down south. People are leaving New York because of high taxes and over regulation. You have businesses leaving California as well.
    Largely an outdated myth from the 70's-90's. Some-places have low taxes, but the shitty infrastructure that comes with it...

    New York really isnít the go to place for anything anymore. Itís a has been. Buffaloís hey day was 100 years ago.
    Yeah, I guess we'll take our massive infusion of cash to the economy and red state welfare states and go home now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    You may say that but New York is still first or second highest state for GDP per capita.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...GDP_per_capita
    And Cali is the other one, but people like Nitrous oxide won't let facts stop them!

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    It's over for comrade Bernie. Now FORD can return and enlighten us on the finer points of handing out Bernie campaign yard signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Based on what? Where? What are the statistics?



    No, you don't. Elon Musk didn't build anything, he inherited the plant from taking over Solar City after they got massive subsidies to build a plant and bring high wage jobs in, which is mixed and uncertain at best. Buffalo's future is as a medical and technology corridor, and as a university/research town. Technology is how you build now, not by trying to recreate the past. Although industries are moving back slowly, because you have a motivated, relatively educated workforce with a work ethic...



    Largely an outdated myth from the 70's-90's. Some-places have low taxes, but the shitty infrastructure that comes with it...



    Yeah, I guess we'll take our massive infusion of cash to the economy and red state welfare states and go home now...
    Ok. We will see if Buffalo is a rival to Austin, Texas in ten years.

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