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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Wow you really can never underestimate the incredible persuasive power in the US of the fossil fuels lobbyists.

    Or maybe it's just a coincidence that it's only in the US you have all this denial...
    There's no denial of the measurable changes in atmospheric levels... Alternatives to fossil fuels is and has been under development for some time. Plus efficiencies in lowering emissions in the US has made good strides.

    It's not like we can just stop production and all will quickly get better... What realistic options do you have to offer..?
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    Hmmmm. For being supposed dumbshits we must be doing something right.
    Cheers to Jackson Hole and the 1% ers! We get a lot of business from that area!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    There's no denial of the measurable changes in atmospheric levels... Alternatives to fossil fuels is and has been under development for some time. Plus efficiencies in lowering emissions in the US has made good strides.

    It's not like we can just stop production and all will quickly get better... What realistic options do you have to offer..?
    Fat ass Al Gore could move to a smaller house and ride a bike to the next global warming expo. A start?

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    Cheers to Jackson Hole and the 1% ers! We get a lot of business from that area!
    Glad we moved here when we did because property values have gone up like crazy. Lotís going on. If we ever manage to get some land from the US Forrest Service and expand our airport Jackson will rival Aspen, Colorado. We got better skiing and we are a better summer destination. The only thing Aspen has over us is a longer runway and a bigger airport. We are a better business environment than Colorado as well. This is a great place to make business contacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    Fat ass Al Gore could move to a smaller house and ride a bike to the next global warming expo. A start?
    Ha! Ha! Nothing like having people who fly in private jets, live in huge homes and ride in large armored SUV’s tell the little guy the world is going to end if we don’t stop burning so much fossil fuel. Hell. They would complain if we all moved into wigwams because the camp fire would be adding to the carbon footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    It's all good until the Super-volcano Apocalypse.
    We would die quick. People who live further will get to suffer what happens when volcanic ash blocks out the sun and temperatures drop and crops fail. If you are worried about air pollution a super volcano is a motherfucker.

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    Glad we moved here when we did because property values have gone up like crazy. Lot’s going on...
    "Lot's" being defined by old, boring white people forced into an egress to a cultural wasteland...

    But hey, been there and live there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    Fat ass Al Gore could move to a smaller house and ride a bike to the next global warming expo. A start?
    Who gives a flying fuck about Gore?

    This isn't college football, the planet is getting fucked up and the US and Brazil have literally the 2 worst possible leaders on this at the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Who gives a flying fuck about Gore?

    This isn't college football, the planet is getting fucked up and the US and Brazil have literally the 2 worst possible leaders on this at the moment...
    Haha! Do you really think governments have that much control over the planet? Do you know how many fires there must have been in the days when man didn't have the technology to put them out? We are lucky we haven't started a thermal nuclear war yet let alone be able to manage a whole planet. The planet has always been fucked. Thank's to technology most of us get to live a little longer. Most industrialized nations today can't even balance their budgets and run up huge amounts of debt. Do you honestly think these governments are capable of putting out vast fires in the Amazon and in Siberia? Like I said, we are lucky we haven't fired off the missiles yet. Power does what it wants and nature does its thing. Nobody here has any say in it so arguing about it is a useless waste of time. Might as well argue over who makes the best beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    "Lot's" being defined by old, boring white people forced into an egress to a cultural wasteland...

    But hey, been there and live there...
    That's a pretty harsh description of this site...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Haha! Do you really think governments have that much control over the planet? Do you know how many fires there must have been in the days when man didn't have the technology to put them out?
    You aren't paying attention.

    https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/brazil...documents-show

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    It's unfortunate what's happening in the Amazon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    Fat ass Al Gore could move to a smaller house and ride a bike to the next global warming expo. A start?
    It's really not about Al Gore at this point, dummy. Yes, he's imperfect and you can use the "hypocrite argument" (although a lot of what you say here is probably exaggeration if not outright bullshit), but there is no questions that sea levels are rising, ice is melting in the Arctic, and we are on our way to catastrophic change...

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    [QUOTE=Nitro Express;1940436]
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    https://www.businessinsider.com/most...-photos-2019-8

    Hmmmm. For being supposed dumbshits we must be doing something right.
    Okay I'm sure Jackson's Hole is a nice place to live, or a nice place to visit. Or maybe a nice place to visit and not live, or a nice place to live and not visit, IDK. But it seems rather limited, and that's fine. But basing everything on fracking and douche-ski tourists does not a paradise make...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's unfortunate what's happening in the Amazon...
    My, such strong condemnation! Go easy bud! Maybe take your blood pressure meds and try not to get so excited!

    I mean, geez, the Holocaust kind of sucks. How, um, bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It's really not about Al Gore at this point, dummy. Yes, he's imperfect and you can use the "hypocrite argument" (although a lot of what you say here is probably exaggeration if not outright bullshit), but there is no questions that sea levels are rising, ice is melting in the Arctic, and we are on our way to catastrophic change...
    It's about all the "Al Gores" and their hypocrisy. And yes we might be on our way to "catastrophic" change and I don't think there's a damn thing we can do about it.

    Maybe you can start bashing China like you bash the USA, Trump, and boring white people. See if that will stop their pollution onslaught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's unfortunate what's happening in the Amazon...
    Just to be exact: Global warming didn't cause the fire, an asshole from a shit hole country lit a match and started it.

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    Ok. I take back the shit hole comment.

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    I don't think (m)any Brazilians visit this site, just the occasional Argentinian and they don't usually get on too well with each other any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    Just to be exact: Global warming didn't cause the fire, an asshole from a shit hole country lit a match and started it.
    Itís something for bored people to complain about. People love to worry about shit and argue over what can be done. The reality is most the people worrying and arguing have zero say or enough power to do anything about it. So the rain Forrest will continue to burn and the president of Brazil will dump a few airplanes of water into the blaze to make it look like heís actually doing something but in reality that effort is pissing up a burning rope hanging from a burning tree in a burning forrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I’m surprised they aren’t blaming Trump for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's unfortunate what's happening in the Amazon...
    I bet Smokey the bear is pissed. Fires probably started by careless stoners careless with their lit joints down there for some bullshit ayahuasca ritual promoted by some fake witch doctor con artist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    It's about all the "Al Gores" and their hypocrisy.
    Why is it "all about" Al Gore? He hasn't even been in the limelight in years. If some guy had a nice house and told you your mom has cancer, are you pissed he has a nice fucking house?

    And yes we might be on our way to "catastrophic" change and I don't think there's a damn thing we can do about it.
    Yeah, but you're one of the ignorant unwashed masses. There's quite a bit that can be done. In fact, planting trees in a forest the size of the continental US would reverse Global Warming within a 100 years, even with no changes in current pollution levels.

    But just throw your hands up and vote for idiots. It's why most of Trump's supporters never question why the American middle class wages are stagnant while CEO salaries have increased dozens of times their pre-1970 levels...

    Maybe you can start bashing China like you bash the USA, Trump, and boring white people. See if that will stop their pollution onslaught.
    Why do you give a fuck, you can't change anything anyway! So fuck it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    I’m surprised they aren’t blaming Trump for it.
    Why not? Just blame Al Gore or the Trilateral Commission...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Why not? Just blame Al Gore or the Trilateral Commission...
    Not much happening with the Trilateral Commission since Zibignew Brzenski and David Rockefeller kicked the bucket. The Trilateral Commission was set up because the Bilderberg Group in Europe didnít want Asians as members. David Rockefeller thought that was a mistake and founded his own group.

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    CEO saleries are determined by the board of directors. The president of the United States has nothing to do with it. We really don’t have a middle class anymore. There is an illusion of a middle class due to easy credit being available. Most middle class jobs have been outsources or eliminated due to technology. The increase of CEO pay, crony capitalism and the shrinking of the middle class has occurred under both Democrats and Republicans. Everyone loves to spend and since we are almost due for another Wall Street bailout and it’s questionable whether we can avoid a depression this time the rich are buying land in Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho and Montana like crazy. They are in cash as well. Why? To avoid the civil unrest that they fear will happen in the large urban areas. Then they plan on taking their cash and buying stuff up cheap after the crash. They just don’t talk about it. They just let the little people argue over politics and other petty shit. That’s the smart money. The dumb money will hold their shares and get killed. Most our politicians hold shares. Ha! Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    My, such strong condemnation! Go easy bud! Maybe take your blood pressure meds and try not to get so excited!

    I mean, geez, the Holocaust kind of sucks. How, um, bad...
    Doesn't much matter what I say or do... I have no influence to change a gawd damned thing in Brazil nor do you.

    Got no meds to take... damn thankful I'm healthy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Doesn't much matter what I say or do... I have no influence to change a gawd damned thing in Brazil nor do you.

    Got no meds to take... damn thankful I'm healthy!
    Fires make Forrest’s healthier. It’s a cycle of nature. The healthiest Forrest in Yellowstone is where it all burned. This planet has been through worse shit than what we can do to it. Also going extinct is part of nature. We don’t exactly have dinosaurs running around here and we will become extinct some time as well. One good asteroid hit would probably do it.

    Most of us will probably die from some stupid shit like falling down the stairs or slipping in the shower. I had one friend who got struck by lightning and killed on a camping trip. Another crashed his airplane on final approach because he didn’t top his tanks off and ran out of fuel. Had another friend crash his plane overloading it with people and luggage and taking off when it was too hot. Thinking about it I know a lot of people who have died in plane crashes.

    Yup. Shit happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Doesn't much matter what I say or do... I have no influence to change a gawd damned thing in Brazil nor do you.

    Got no meds to take... damn thankful I'm healthy!
    Yes we do. Not electing fucktards like Drumpf is the first step. But there is mounting pressure on Brazil which is why they at least made a show of deploying their military...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Fires make Forrest’s healthier. It’s a cycle of nature. The healthiest Forrest in Yellowstone is where it all burned....

    Yup. Shit happens.
    It's the rain forest, not a North American deciduous forest. The soil is poor and will not grow back easily, their cycle is the plants die and compost quickly for new plants to grow, strip that away and its a desert...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Fires make Forrest’s healthier. It’s a cycle of nature. The healthiest Forrest in Yellowstone is where it all burned.
    Tropical forests are usually warm, wet places with no dry grass to carry fires, so they don’t usually burn. If they are dried out, either by drought or by deforestation creating sharp edges that allows drying wind into them, they can burn catastrophically.
    The plants and animals of these forests are not fire adapted, many die and the ecosystem may take decades to recover. Most of the fires in the Amazon are started by humans.

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    [QUOTE=Nickdfresh;1940479]It's the rain forest, not a North American deciduous forest. The soil is poor and will not grow back easily, their cycle is the plants die and compost quickly for new plants to grow, strip that away and its a desert...[/QUOTE

    We will see. I’ve been down in the Amazon basin. The soil didn’t look poor to me. You usually don’t have poor soil where there has been a lot of organic matter falling and decomposing over a long time. Now Forrest’s do retain moisture. Lanai in Hawaii was logged too much and now is a barren island because there are not enough trees to hold the moisture. It’s a good example of a man made fuck up.

    The Amazon Basin has a lot of surface water running off the Andes. Usually where there is water stuff starts to grow. One thing for sure, nobody knows for sure what’s going to happen. Nature can be pretty unpredictable.

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    We will see. I’ve been down in the Amazon basin. The soil didn’t look poor to me. You usually don’t have poor soil where there has been a lot of organic matter falling and decomposing over a long time. Now Forrest’s do retain moisture. Lanai in Hawaii was logged too much and now is a barren island because there are not enough trees to hold the moisture. It’s a good example of a man made fuck up.

    The Amazon Basin has a lot of surface water running off the Andes. Usually where there is water stuff starts to grow. One thing for sure, nobody knows for sure what’s going to happen. Nature can be pretty unpredictable.
    Um, maybe you should have done some tests?
    The paradox of rainforest soils
    Tropical soils are notoriously thin and poor in nutrients. In some parts of the Amazon River Basin, white, sandy soils are found, which have evolved through erosion over hundreds of millions of years. And yet, although these soils have lost their mineral content and fertility, rich rainforests grow on them.

    In rainforests, some of the highest trees on the planet shoot to the sky. Dead plants and animals quickly decompose and their organic matter is utilized by other organisms.
    http://wwf.panda.org/knowledge_hub/w...n/rainforests/

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    The Amazon is a huge area. Iím sure the soil differs in different parts of it. I can tell you one thing. The scientists will be amazed at what that area does because nature is quite un predictable. I get a bit tired of hearing all these experts sound like they know the answers to everything.

    This planet is a dynamic complicated place. We actually understand very little about it and we are a corrupt species by nature. Look at our history. Most of our technological breakthroughs have been the result of trying to win wars. So far we have not started a thermal nuclear war. I guess we havenít found the right crazy person yet.

    The planet is fine. The people are fucked. The planet will outlast us. Maybe we are part of some weird cycle. Maybe the earth needed plastic and it will incorporate it into itself to get to the next stage of evolution. Ha! Ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The planet is fine. The people are fucked. The planet will outlast us. Maybe we are part of some weird cycle. Maybe the earth needed plastic and it will incorporate it into itself to get to the next stage of evolution. Ha! Ha!
    Fucking stupid comment. We all know the planet will still be here, humans being on it is kind of important to the humans. When people say we are fucking up the planet that is shorthand for we are fucking up the planet for human habitation because that's kind of a pain in the ass to say each time. Also saying you are sick of experts is the kind of non thinking that is wrong with some people these days. Next time you have a health problem go and get a homeless person with a spoon and see if he is better at helping you than someone who has trained for 20 years. The thing about experts is that they know how little and how much they know - you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The Amazon is a huge area. I’m sure the soil differs in different parts of it. I can tell you one thing. The scientists will be amazed at what that area does because nature is quite un predictable. I get a bit tired of hearing all these experts sound like they know the answers to everything.

    This planet is a dynamic complicated place. We actually understand very little about it and we are a corrupt species by nature. Look at our history. Most of our technological breakthroughs have been the result of trying to win wars. So far we have not started a thermal nuclear war. I guess we haven’t found the right crazy person yet.

    The planet is fine. The people are fucked. The planet will outlast us. Maybe we are part of some weird cycle. Maybe the earth needed plastic and it will incorporate it into itself to get to the next stage of evolution. Ha! Ha!
    Talks out of ass from Jacksons Hole...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Fucking stupid comment. We all know the planet will still be here, humans being on it is kind of important to the humans. When people say we are fucking up the planet that is shorthand for we are fucking up the planet for human habitation because that's kind of a pain in the ass to say each time. Also saying you are sick of experts is the kind of non thinking that is wrong with some people these days. Next time you have a health problem go and get a homeless person with a spoon and see if he is better at helping you than someone who has trained for 20 years. The thing about experts is that they know how little and how much they know - you don't.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect
    Worrying about problems and world events and the stress of doing so will kill you sooner than some major disaster will. You can’t do shit about the Amazon. Go ahead and have a tizzy over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Talks out of ass from Jacksons Hole...

    You can’t do anything either. If you can turn that outdated port in the snow belt called Buffalo, New York around I will be impressed. Let’s see where you are in five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yes we do. Not electing fucktards like Drumpf is the first step. But there is mounting pressure on Brazil which is why they at least made a show of deploying their military...
    Do you really believe that you can connect the dots from electing a person to a political office in the US to significantly changing human activity in the Amazon... that's a hell of a leap or one great hallucination!

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