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    "guitar'd" documentary

    ​So the guys who made the Zlozower doc had another film in the works called "Guitar'd".
    Well guess who is causing a major roadblock to the finishline? Find out below.

    http://www.rattlesnakeproductions.com/projects.html


    GUITAR'D
    - a project in the making -
    about GUITAR'D and why it's not finished yet ...
    "GUITAR'D" is a big project, which we worked on very hard from 2008 until around 2016.
    That's when we met the famous rock photographer Neil Zlozower,
    whose photos we gazed at since the early 80ies.

    After talking to him for 30 minutes, we decided that we HAD to make a film about him.
    And so we did - and finished in 2018.

    You can watch
    IN YOUR FACE - THE NEIL ZLOZOWER STORY
    for free on YouTube

    We picked up our GUITAR'D doc again, but hit a dead end:

    Unfortunately all our attempts to interview EDWARD VAN HALEN,
    whose appearance in this film is of the essence, were unsuccessful.

    ​If you think you can help, please get in touch!
    So far, we interviewed over 70 guitarists and people in the guitar industry such as:

    Steve Vai
    Slash
    Michael Schenker
    Jason Becker (David Lee Roth, Cacophony)
    Johnny Winter
    Pete Thorn (Chris Cornell)
    Steve Lukather (Toto)
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    Lita Ford
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    Dweezil Zappa
    Munky (Korn)
    John 5 (David Lee Roth, Rob Zombie)
    Scott Gorham (Thin Lizzy)
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    Matthew Tuck & Michael Paget (Bullet For My Valentine)
    Les Wise (M.I co-founder)
    Chris Broderick (Megadeth)
    Frank Iero & Ray Toro (My Chemical Romance)
    Rusty Anderson (Paul Mc Cartney, Elton John)
    T.M. Stevens (James Brown, Miles Davis)
    Mick Box (Uriah Heep)
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    Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
    Chip Ellis & Chris Cannella (EVH Masterbuilders)
    FENDER EVH Factory Tour
    Tommy Victor (Prong, Ministry, Danzig)
    Marco Mendoza (Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy)
    Joel OíKeeffe & David Roads (Airbourne)
    Billy Morrison (Billy Idol Band, The Cult)
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    Wes (Korn, Hed.Pe)
    Sean McNabb (Quiet Riot)
    Jeff Cullen (Eargasm)
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    What the hell is he afraid of?!!

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    Ed is a recluse. He’s not an in the public guy. He’s built up quite the brand. EVH is now a major player in the guitar industry. The guy can dicker around in 5150 all day, pop a Viagra pop Janie. Play with their cute little dog and ride his weird looking motorcycle around and the money is coming in. He gives the products his blessing and Fender and Dunlop sell em for him. Ed no longer has to go on tour.
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    The Van Halen’s retired. They just didn’t announce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The Van Halenís retired. They just didnít announce it.
    Jason Becker is "retired". EVH is just being an asshole.

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    Meh.

    Looking at that list of the others interviewed, I see maybe 5 guitarists total who I'd even put in the same league as Eddie Van Halen in terms of the range of influence they had on rock guitarists over the last 4 decades vs. the range of influence Eddie had: it's not like Eddie's gonna say "Marco Mendoza is being interviewed? Oh, well, in THAT case, I'd better give my two cents also!" No offense to Mendoza, but...

    It seems pretty much what Nitro said, in that Eddie doesn't NEED to do jack-shit anymore. His status or legacy in terms of rock guitar legends was already cemented by the time the 1984 album was made. Far as his signature gear goes, one less interview nowadays isn't going to matter one iota in terms of how his gear sells. I mean, Ed can't even give fans the CVH reunion they want, and THAT hasn't stopped his Franky-striped accessories from moving units.

    Far as Ed's non-appearance in the proposed documentary goes, if said appearance was so essential to the success of the documentary, one would think the production team would have gotten Ed's co-operation/participation BEFORE interviewing everyone else under the sun. To not have done so, have gone about making the documentary in a half-assed way ASSUMING they'd get Eddie to be interviewed down the line and when that doesn't come to pass blaming EDDIE for their not having done their OWN fucking homework...

    I mean, Eddie has made plenty of asshole moves in his life, to be sure. THIS documentary situation, however, isn't one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The Van Halen’s retired. They just didn’t announce it.
    It certainly feels that way.

    Honestly, when I think about how the band has approached their undertakings since 1995, for them to retire unannounced makes more sense then reuniting with Anthony and going out with a CVH reunion bang. Ties into Van Halen being able to get precious little right in the last 25 years.

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    I love the EVH speaker cabs. They are cheaper than Marshallís and loaded with Celestion speakers and built well. I especially like the 2x12 cabs. You can tilt them back like a Fender Twin Reverb amp.

    The 5150 amp series is popular from everything from country players in Nashville to metal heads. The price point is reasonable for the quality you are getting. Guitar sales are flat. The younger generations are not so interested in rock and roll. Country is now more popular. The music scene is in Nashville. So I imagine equipment sales arenít what they were in the 80ís and even 90ís. Kids are different now with the internet, mobile devices and gaming. The teen scene now is kind of lame. For us it was muscle cars. Sneaking into clubs and bars with fake IDís and chasing chicks. It was all real and in You face for real. It was great. The nerds played the computer games on Friday and a Saturday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Meh.

    Looking at that list of the others interviewed, I see maybe 5 guitarists total who I'd even put in the same league as Eddie Van Halen in terms of the range of influence they had on rock guitarists over the last 4 decades vs. the range of influence Eddie had:.
    Don't you think 5 is enough to make this legit? Don't you think if there are FIVE out there in Eddie's league that it would be a hell of a documentary?
    They need Zloz to make this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    The music scene is in Nashville.
    You got that right. Google all of the rock guys living in Nashville now. If you're trying to make a living in music, any genre, you move your ass to Nashville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    It certainly feels that way.

    Honestly, when I think about how the band has approached their undertakings since 1995, for them to retire unannounced makes more sense then reuniting with Anthony and going out with a CVH reunion bang. Ties into Van Halen being able to get precious little right in the last 25 years.
    So what happened to Dave's "meeting up with the Van Halen's in a few weeks" line he said back in July? (or was it June).

    Did said meeting take place?

    Who knows. Dave is doing his thing on youtube, Ed and Al are nowhere to be seen, Mike is still joined to the bum with Hagar so yeah.....Id say VH is retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    Don't you think 5 is enough to make this legit? Don't you think if there are FIVE out there in Eddie's league that it would be a hell of a documentary?
    They need Zloz to make this happen.

    Yeah...5 guitarists I'd want to hear from, and 65 other interview subjects that hold no interest for me whatsoever...

    Don't get me wrong: I'd love to watch an engaging EVH-centric documentary.

    Judging from the majority of the 70 person list - along with the amateurish way it was produced in terms of having their shit hard-wired - I'd hazard a guess this documentary isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    So what happened to Dave's "meeting up with the Van Halen's in a few weeks" line he said back in July? (or was it June).

    Did said meeting take place?

    Who knows. Dave is doing his thing on youtube, Ed and Al are nowhere to be seen, Mike is still joined to the bum with Hagar so yeah.....Id say VH is retired.

    Lol
    I'd forgotten about that "I'm meeting with the Van Halens shortly, we'll have something to announce soon" Rothbabble of last year.

    Yeah, Dave, it'll happen any day now...although doubtless you'll understand nobody's breathless with anticipation one way or the other. That's the upshot of working every 4 years or so: who gives a shit anymore? The Van Halens don't want to emerge from their hidey hole. Right up there with DOG BITES MAN in terms of a shocking headline.

    Apparently an attempt was made to put something together with Mike Anthony. Not much of one in terms of follow up from what I read, but at least an overture was made.

    It's gonna be a bit pathetic watching these guys pushing 70 trying to warble through a set, which is how old they'll be by the time they get around to doing something again. Honestly, I think I'll approach their next endeavor just as I did their 2015 gigs, and watch whatever it is on youtube, because conveniently free is about what I'm willing to shell out in terms of time and money for these guys now.

    I'd say I'd still be up for a CVH live dvd box set, but these guys dicked around so long that even dvds are obsolete.

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    Ed's clearly got health issues... mental... physical... You make the call...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Ed's clearly got health issues... mental... physical... You make the call...
    Of which, admittedly, I often forget.

    I recall being a bit taken aback at Ed's appearance at the Smithsonian, strictly in terms of how old he looked and how slow and aged his appearance was while being interviewed, and even that was...what? 4 years ago?

    That Ed had and probably continues to deal with health issues isn't something many would deny, although the extent of which is unknown at present.

    Far as mental issues go, when I think about how fucked up Ed was around 2003 through 2006...I'm no shrink, but it's hard to imagine a person letting their addictions overtake them to the point where they are looking one step from Death's Door like Ed was...I mean, it wasn't a case of Ed not having enough money to address his addiction issues, or finding difficulty taking time off from work to do so: from all appearances, Ed was content to let his health go to shit. To the point where he couldn't even play guitar as well as he used to. Hard to imagine someone with plenty of time and money to take care of themselves and not doing so, and looking content to drink/drug themselves to oblivion without thinking there are some mental issues going on.

    Who knows where Ed is at these days, physically, mentally and otherwise. Maybe he's just puttering around, content not to do too much. More than a few days I often think that wouldn't be a bad life, myself.

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    It's just a weird thing with Van Halen since 1996 for me.

    I tend to discount 1985 through 1995. Not solely because of the musical direction of Van Halen during that period, but because regardless of who was (more) at fault for the CVH split, Roth and the band weren't together anymore. It was what it was.

    For me, it just keeps coming back to the CVH albums, when Ed was at his best and coming up with what to my ears amounted to his best stuff. I still get enjoyment out of listening to that stuff. When I hear it, it sounds like the band, whatever their personal differences, was kicking ass and having fun playing the music.

    Post-1996, Van Halen has been Van Halen minus the fun. This is perhaps why I was so excited for the Roth/CVH reunion in 1996 and still clung to the hope of a CVH reunion even after the 1996 attempt ended in acrimony: I want to get some of that kick-ass fun back.

    Realistically, the band is too old and doesn't have the...drive or desire they did decades ago. Which is understandable. Roth seems to have his sense of fun - or at least his own appreciation of his sense of humor, at any rate - intact. I'd be hard-pressed to imagine Ed doesn't enjoy playing guitar any more. I dunno. Over the last ten years, it kind of seems at times like Roth is back with the band more because all concerned know it is Roth in Van Halen that remains a draw for concert tickets, rather than the band actually really enjoying what they have been doing. Doubtless Ed enjoys playing with his kid, but that's not quite the same thing as enjoying having Dave back.

    That fantastic era of 1978 to 1984...it's...just gone forever. I don't even think a CVH reunion can really bring it back, even in terms of replicating a memory that will really do justice to the Real Deal, as CVH were back in the day.

    Can't Get That Stuff No More.

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    I realize everyone ages differently and their mileage varies based on lifestyle... but then you also compare similar characters in this realm...

    Take Joe Walsh for example. His career spans from 1964 to present, turns 72 in November and could've given EVH & Dave a run for their money in the partying department for as many or more decades. He's cleaned up... still writes, releases music and performs live both solo and with the Eagles.

    There's a lot of Ed's fellow 6-stringers still active with more years and more empty bottles out there keeping it fun...

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    I think the thing of it is...what Van Halen has left that is saleable is going out and playing their greatest hits. Perhaps a majority of the general concertgoing audience out there now would prefer to hear the CVH era greatest hits than the Van Hagar years, although I'd tend to imagine a Van Hagar reunion could still pull in a decent amount of folks willing to pay money to see it. Speaking in terms of the broad section of people willing to pay money to see Van Halen live today, many of whom probably don't particularly care if Roth is singing or if Hagar is singing regarding that being a deal-breaker one way or the other.

    I understand that nostalgia sells. And sells well.

    The problem from where I sit is that while I wanted Roth to rejoin the band for years, part of the reason was that I wanted to see what Roth and the band were capable of coming up with in terms of new music. Sure, I wanted to hear the CVH stuff performed live again, and to their credit the band did incorporate different deep CVH tracks into their setlists for each tour from 2007 on. ADKOT was bit of a mixed bag. Even strictly in terms of the new stuff. Chinatown was good. As Is was good. You And Your Blues, not so much. The Trouble With Never, not so much. But I liked the fact that the band was willing to give making a new record a shot, and even with the re-recording of the old CVH demos one could hear the band making an effort.

    Seems like that adventurous spirit lasted for that one 2012 tour. By 2015, it was back to the oldies. And I understand that, because apparently that's what people want to hear. It's just...part of what appealed to me when CVH was active is that nearly every year they were moving forward with a new album, and they were playing new things on tour, and weren't merely rehashing what they had already done.

    These greatest hits tours just aren't really doing much for me anymore. The first one in 2007 was perhaps necessary in terms of the greatest hits template. The 2012 tour saw the band at least putting a new record out and doing some new stuff live. That felt like a band that was looking forward in addition to essaying the past. 2015, it was back to recreating the past. I'm not sure why this is. I dunno if Roth and the Van Halens are on different musical wavelengths and simply can't agree on what type of new material they could create in terms of style, or if Roth and the Van Halens simply can't work together anymore beyond getting up onstage for 120 minutes and bashing out the oldies and having that be the only time where they can be in the same proximity together.

    The last 12 years have seen Van Halen become something to me that they never were during the CVH period, which (I'm honestly a bit saddened to say) is stale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yeah...5 guitarists I'd want to hear from, and 65 other interview subjects that hold no interest for me whatsoever...

    Don't get me wrong: I'd love to watch an engaging EVH-centric documentary.

    Judging from the majority of the 70 person list - along with the amateurish way it was produced in terms of having their shit hard-wired - I'd hazard a guess this documentary isn't it.
    I see 10 or so I'd like to hear from. These guys are indie film makers and probably a bit green. I don't think there is a huge demand for guitar-centric documentaries, as in this is probably the only and last one.
    You would think Ed would like to talk guitar for a few minutes with these guys. His two EVH/Fender builders are in on it. Got to be another reason they're not getting access. Mental or physical, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by private parts View Post
    I see 10 or so I'd like to hear from. These guys are indie film makers and probably a bit green. I don't think there is a huge demand for guitar-centric documentaries, as in this is probably the only and last one.
    You would think Ed would like to talk guitar for a few minutes with these guys. His two EVH/Fender builders are in on it. Got to be another reason they're not getting access. Mental or physical, right?
    I think you do have a point in that, if nothing else, Ed would participate even just to promote the EVH signature gear.

    I mean, admittedly I was being a bit of dick calling these guys out for not having their ducks in a row (assuming that even was the case), and I also assumed Ed didn't want to do it because these guys were indie film makers. I mean, Ed is still stuck in the mentality of a band needing to be on a major label to sell records/music, so in that vein possibly the term "indie" connotates something Ed thinks he is above or beyond commenting for, or whatever.

    Possibly, Ed just never got the interview request, or it was mentioned to him in passing by his...handler(?) manager (?) person whose job it is to pass along messages to Ed (?) gardener (?) and Ed shrugged, forgot about it and went about his day.

    Maybe Ed can't be bothered giving interviews unless it is for GW. Or has an exclusivity interview deal with GW.

    Who the fuck knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post

    Who the fuck knows?
    Sounds like a good title for the next VH album or the biography of Eddie Van Halen.

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