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    Does anyone else here think the setlist for Las Vegas 2020 is going to mimic the setlist from the 2004 DLR solo tour (also with 2 guitarists: Brian Young & Toshi Hiketa) or is it just me?
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    He didn't do a huge amount of gigs in 2004 but it did include a UK tour which I saw 2 of. The set list was

    Hot for Teacher
    Mean Street
    Just Like Paradise
    Runnin' With the Devil
    You Really Got Me
    California Girls
    Somebody Get Me a Doctor
    And the Cradle Will Rock...
    Just a Gigolo / I Ain't Got Nobody
    Unchained
    Goin' Crazy!
    Shoo Bop
    Panama
    Dance the Night Away
    Yankee Rose
    Ice Cream Man
    Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love

    Encore:
    Jump


    Obviously Shoo Bop will be gone. I think it's going to be almost all Van Halen with maybe California Girls and Just A Gigolo because it's Vegas. I'm not sure Just Like Paradise and Yankee Rose will make it.

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    An interesting coincidence pointed out on our Facebook page today is that 20 years ago tonight David Lee Roth played the House of Blues in Las Vegas. I'm not sure he'll mention that but he should - managing to maintain that level 20 years through your 40s to 60s is a huge achievement in his job.

    His guitarist on that night was Bart Walsh...
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    FRom setlist FM


    You Really Got Me
    Big Train
    Unchained
    Just Like Paradise
    Atomic Punk
    Dance the Night Away
    Mean Street
    California Girls
    Tobacco Road
    Jamie's Cryin'
    Beautiful Girls
    Panama
    Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
    Encore:
    Just a Gigolo
    Jump



    YRGM



    Unchained



    Just Like Paradise



    DTNA
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    Big Train





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    His voice is rough but he did alright on "Big Train"... will say this, he has a great guitarist and the backing vocals are spot on
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    yeah ! it's a first real show since 4 Years ! Dave as usual will better show after show ..perhaps better than 2015 tour !

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    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/davi...ight-set-list/



    David Lee Roth mixed Van Halen classics with a unique brand of storytelling at his first full solo concert in 13 years tonight in Las Vegas.

    The 65-year-old Roth was energetic, enthusiastic and engaging throughout, understandably skipping most of the acrobatics and dancing of previous tours. Sometimes he also missed notes, cues or occasionally, entire verses - most notably on "California Girls," during which he broke out his now-famous "I forgot the fucking words" apology.

    The fifteen song set featured 10 classics from the Van Halen years, 5 songs (largely covers) from his solo albums, and at least a half a dozen extended stories about his life and career.

    During these interludes, which found his band backing him with instrumental versions of songs such as Lou Reed's "Walk on the Wild Side" and Sly and the Family Stone's "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again)," Roth revealed - among many other things - that the J-Pop group Rampage from Exile Tribe had recently cut a big check to license an upcoming cover version of "Jump." He also explained how eyebrows made dogs more lovable than cats: "Who knows what the fuck they're thinking?"

    Al Estrada from the Van Halen tribute band Eruption handled lead guitar duty, alongside rhythm guitarist Frankie Lindri, bassist Ryan Wheeler, keyboardist Danny Wagner and drummer Mike Mussleman.

    The singer's last full-length solo concert took place on Nov. 7, 2006. The following September he returned to Van Halen for his first tour with the band in 23 years. With Eddie Van Halen's son Wolfgang replacing original bassist Michael Anthony, the group embarked on two more tours and released one studio album, 2012's A Different Kind of Truth, over the next decade.

    In late 2018 the singer strongly hinted that Van Halen would tour for the first time in four years in the summer of 2019, but those plans never materialized. Unconfirmed reports suggested that Eddie Van Halen was battling health issues. Upon announcing his solo return to the stage last September, Roth said, "I’m not sure what’s happening with Ed, but [he’s] probably not gonna answer the bell this time. It’s not my place to guess."

    In addition to eight more confirmed Las Vegas shows this January and March, Roth was recently announced as the opening act for the upcoming North American legs of Kiss' End of the Road farewell tour. Their first show together takes place Feb. 1 in Manchester, New Hampshire.

    Read More: David Lee Roth Kicks Off Vegas Residency: Set List, Photos, Video | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/davi...edium=referral

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    Big Train is a curious addition to the set. Ill bet it's the first track to get dropped when the setlist changes.
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    Going through the youtubes now. Beautiful girls sounds pretty good with backing vox.


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    beautiful girls,just a gigilo,big train and tobacco road were the best vocals imho
    more show tunes and covers and van halen stuff in his vocal range. The string on the mic is weird. The shoestrings on his pants n stuff hahaha

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    the prerecorded backing vox is cool lol guitarplayer nails it too (it sounds prerecorded the vox..or am i wrong?)
    pananma is pretty ok too.
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    From what I've heard so far, Dave sounded great on Gigilo, Jamie's Cryn' and a few others. Better than 2015.

    He is what he is at this point. I imagine he sounds fine live rather than watching youtube clips.

    The band is really good - especially the guitar players. I dont think there are prerecorded backing vox - but who knows.

    Drummer was ok - but hes no Bissonette or Ray Luzier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemustard View Post
    the prerecorded backing vox is cool lol guitarplayer nails it too (it sounds prerecorded the vox..or am i wrong?)
    pananma is pretty ok too.
    Yeah the backing vocals sound suspiciously perfect to me and I agree the guitarist is doing a great job.

    I see a lot of negativity online about these videos but I bet it was much better in the room than on YouTube and everything apart from Dave's vocals on some of the songs is good.

    The verses on DTNA grate so much that you are still smarting from them and forget to notice how well Beautiful Girls or Tobacco Road are working.

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    Did my goddamnest to try to listen to Roth's dismal podcast while it lasted. Asshat could not stay on a subject for more than 22 seconds. Now ask yourself what fool would want to see something like that live in a plastic shithole like Vegas?

    Face it, your guitar god is slowly dying of cancer, your homoerotic singer lacks any talent and your life has gone absolutely nowhere in the past 40 years.

    Good news it there is some new scam going around where "on-line therapist" are willing to listen to your Van Halen disappointment stories for a rather hefty fee. Give them a call or text or what the fuck ever.

    Life can get better without Van Halen. You just need to let go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Yeah the backing vocals sound suspiciously perfect to me and I agree the guitarist is doing a great job.

    I see a lot of negativity online about these videos but I bet it was much better in the room than on YouTube and everything apart from Dave's vocals on some of the songs is good.

    The verses on DTNA grate so much that you are still smarting from them and forget to notice how well Beautiful Girls or Tobacco Road are working.
    I mean, what are folks expecting from Roth in 2020?

    1984 Dave? LOL

    Roth has been putting in the effort - that much is clear. And yes I would imagine seeing the show live is indeed better than watching youtube clips.

    There is just an insane online/social media culture of hatred for some things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post

    Roth has been putting in the effort - that much is clear.
    Maybe he's expecting a good rating from AARP?

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    Looks like he’s having a blast and looks healthy. Great for him. I will admit I was hoping to hear him sound better vocally but I guess it’s as good as could be expected. We all know his history. His band does absolutely nothing for me but I don’t have a degree in instruments ( besides the skin flute). Rock on Dave live your best life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    Drummer was ok - but hes no Bissonette or Ray Luzier.
    I'm sure he's very technical but not a 'heavy' flash drummer which you would think the gig would suit better.

    Funny you should mention Bissonette...

    Michael Musselman is a Los Angeles based drummer for live and studio settings. He studied under Gregg Bissonette (Ringo Starr) and graduated Musicians Institute in 2012. He has worked with Keith Urban, Ryan Cabrera, Magic Giant, Pretty Sister, Figs Vision, Forebear and many more.
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    Dave is past the sell date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    I mean, what are folks expecting from Roth in 2020?

    1984 Dave? LOL

    Roth has been putting in the effort - that much is clear. And yes I would imagine seeing the show live is indeed better than watching youtube clips.

    There is just an insane online/social media culture of hatred for some things.
    Some things? There is internet hatred for all things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
    Looks like he’s having a blast and looks healthy. Great for him. I will admit I was hoping to hear him sound better vocally but I guess it’s as good as could be expected. We all know his history. His band does absolutely nothing for me but I don’t have a degree in instruments ( besides the skin flute). Rock on Dave live your best life!
    I think skin flute players are the most important players of all. Jimmy Page would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Maybe he's expecting a good rating from AARP?
    Dave will be sedated in an assisted living center soon for pressing up against the staff and saying,"That's not a micorphone in my pants, I'm just happy to see you!"

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    Well it looks like Dr. Rockso is finished. Mr. Wallace was right, age will bite yo ass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
    I mean, what are folks expecting from Roth in 2020?

    1984 Dave? LOL

    Roth has been putting in the effort - that much is clear. And yes I would imagine seeing the show live is indeed better than watching youtube clips.

    There is just an insane online/social media culture of hatred for some things.
    Some of it is people are just used to artists miming to lesser or greater degrees so when they hear one that isn't they can't take it. I'm sure say that guy from Queen isn't but he's young. For many of the older artists it's not complete miming but the guy on the desk fades in more of a recorded vocal at the bits where he knows or hears the singer struggle. In the case of say Madonna that's whenever she is dancing, Simon Le Bon anything high, Ozzy when it sounds in tune, you get the idea.

    Even the often cited Jagger who is basically a freak of nature at the very least gets help from that black backing singer guy.

    I'm not saying that's the only issue with Dave's vocals but it's a definite factor on some of the YouTube comments and elsewhere.

    Seems to me as usual the reviews from publications that actually sent someone to the gig are the most positive about it.

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    One can always get a truthful expression from a show live only being their in the flesh so to speak. I have seen Dave numerous times and for instance his 2015 shows did have their moments of 'god lord' what was that good and bad but live some of what is expressed on a internet video makes it appear worse maybe due to the fact you do not have the proper equipment to get an electronic audio at the right levels with not just the voice, but the acoustics, and the entire wall of sound of the band itself in a coherent whole. I think he sounded just fine on tunes like "Big Train" and his only major flaw is his need to yelp or try an obscure high octave from time to time. He handled Jump pretty well and kept it within a decent range. I think he has forged an alternative alteration to "Dance The Night Away" which probably would have sounded better than the original but he cannot now pull it off but the idea of what he rather it would have sounded like cannot escape him though he no longer has the chops to do the whole song consistently in that manner... for a old fart, he's doing the best he can and looks happy which is good for him

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    As Ed himself said the first time ol' Dave tried a Vegas run, "the magic is gone". It still is.
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    One can always get a truthful expression from a show live only being their in the flesh so to speak. I have seen Dave numerous times and for instance his 2015 shows did have their moments of 'god lord' what was that good and bad but live some of what is expressed on a internet video makes it appear worse maybe due to the fact you do not have the proper equipment to get an electronic audio at the right levels with not just the voice, but the acoustics, and the entire wall of sound of the band itself in a coherent whole. I think he sounded just fine on tunes like "Big Train" and his only major flaw is his need to yelp or try an obscure high octave from time to time. He handled Jump pretty well and kept it within a decent range. I think he has forged an alternative alteration to "Dance The Night Away" which probably would have sounded better than the original but he cannot now pull it off but the idea of what he rather it would have sounded like cannot escape him though he no longer has the chops to do the whole song consistently in that manner... for a old fart, he's doing the best he can and looks happy which is good for him
    Dave is enthusiastic and frisky but he canít get it up and in. If you are in the audience you are like the woman he took home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heater View Post
    As Ed himself said the first time ol' Dave tried a Vegas run, "the magic is gone". It still is.
    Ed said he actually cried when he saw Dave’s Vegas schtick on Leno. Well Dave burned his bridges with the Van Halen’s good this time but it doesn’t matter because those guys are a bunch of old fucks too. Not everybody is like The Stones. Van Halen was young high energy. That’s hard to pull off when you are in your 60’s. Dave is like watching some old fart NBA hot shot try and play hoop like he did when he was in his 20’s.

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    Van Halen was great. They just got old. Dave still wants the old glory. He’s still a pirate on the prowl for booty. It’s just no longer entertaining watching him in his ego fueled quests anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heater View Post
    As Ed himself said the first time ol' Dave tried a Vegas run, "the magic is gone". It still is.
    It's been over 43 years, people!

    Time to move on.

    A lot has change in the world such as...many of you might have missed this:





    Check into it sometime. You'll find it an eye opening experience.
    By the way, "Frank" is an asshole.

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    I think the videos taken right from below Roth are picking up a his vocal monitor and sound way worse due to the mix. Stage sound is always way shittier than elsewhere so those versions of the worst sung songs like JLP from that persons phone are now all over the social media with people astonished at how shit they think it is.

    I know I'll just sound like an apologist but it's not a fair representation to find the worst footage of the worst sung songs and is kind of irritating to watch the trial by phone YouTube but whatever. It's kind of difficult to weigh into a Facebook thread of 20 people to explain that and say 'it's not complete shit its just a bit sub par and over half the set is totally fine considering'.

    Also good to see live keyboards for the first time in how long which made me start to wonder if it's possible the backing vocals are live just really well rehearsed - with 4 people it's not impossible.

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    That vocal performance is indefensible.
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    UCL reports:

    "The 65-year-old Roth was energetic, enthusiastic and engaging throughout,
    understandably skipping most of the acrobatics and dancing of previous tours.
    Sometimes he also missed notes, cues or occasionally, entire verses - most
    notably on "California Girls," during which he broke out his now-famous "I
    forgot the fucking words" apology."

    Wonder if Eddie Trunk thinks DLR really forgot the words to CA Girls or maybe
    now he's finally in on the joke?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesfunk View Post
    That vocal performance is indefensible.
    If you have to actually stop and analyze if it’s good, it’s not good. A good performance should automatically wow you.

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