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  • #46
    Dave's contemporaries are still out there, rightfully or wrongly, so why not him?

    I think that's how he may feel.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
      Dave's contemporaries are still out there, rightfully or wrongly, so why not him?

      I think that's how he may feel.
      Dave still has it physically. I was duly impressed with the overhead kcik in the Vegas promo video. Straight up over his head like the beginning of the Panama video.

      Clearly he has been training physically.

      But his voice left the building around 1993 and is not going to show up again just like Eddie isn't gonna answer the bell.

      Good for Dave for wanting to work, but I wish someone would tell him he sounds horrible.

      But it's his life and legacy, and good on him for staying in shape and wanting to perform.

      I just hate to see him embarrass himself with his voice.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
        Dave's contemporaries are still out there, rightfully or wrongly, so why not him?

        I think that's how he may feel.
        Yeah, and with Jagger going on tour a couple months after heart surgery...does it set a high bar?

        Originally posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
        Dave still has it physically. I was duly impressed with the overhead kick in the Vegas promo video. Straight up over his head like the beginning of the Panama video.

        Clearly he has been training physically.
        Easy to do another take if he doesn't make the kick
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        • #49
          It doesn't matter if there is more than 1 take. He can still do it dumbass.

          Can you? Could you ever?

          In 2007 he was still doing it then he lost it. But now has it back. My point being he appears to have been training. And to regain that physicality at any age is an accomplishment.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
            It doesn't matter if there is more than 1 take. He can still do it dumbass.

            Can you? Could you ever?

            In 2007 he was still doing it then he lost it. But now has it back. My point being he appears to have been training. And to regain that physicality at any age is an accomplishment.
            It damn well sure is.

            Hey what if Dave was lip synching like Paul Stanley?

            People would still rip him for that. He can't win.

            Rob Halford - still sounds ok but does not have any of the power he once had.

            David Coverdale - OMG, sounds really bad. Feel bad for him.

            Even Bruce Dickinson - while his range is really good, the raspiness to his vocal stylings is gone. Hear him sing the Number of the Beast nowadays compared to the 80s - very different. The rawness isn't there anymore.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
              It damn well sure is.

              Hey what if Dave was lip synching like Paul Stanley?

              People would still rip him for that. He can't win.

              Rob Halford - still sounds ok but does not have any of the power he once had.

              David Coverdale - OMG, sounds really bad. Feel bad for him.

              Even Bruce Dickinson - while his range is really good, the raspiness to his vocal stylings is gone. Hear him sing the Number of the Beast nowadays compared to the 80s - very different. The rawness isn't there anymore.
              If he wants to yelp, that's his business. And good for him if it makes him happy.

              As a fan, I hate to see him embarrass himself.

              Physically, the guy puts every other so-clled rock star to shame, and most amateur athletes too. At 65, he can still do the kick overhead exactly like in 1985.

              I want to hear the real DLR more. Not Diamond Dave and all the bullshit. His best interview ever was on Joe Rogan around 2014 or 2015 or so. It was just David Roth being normal.

              I want to hear about his daily routines. His exercise. His diet. His boring day-to-day life. Most of all, his travel stories. He could write 3 books just on that.

              Fuck the Diamond Dave bullshit. That ended 27 years ago. He's faking it now and it isn't working.

              I would rather just see nd hear from David Roth. I don't care about the music anymore, and especially don't wanna see him perform anymore, or VH.

              Those days are over.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
                Dave still has it physically. I was duly impressed with the overhead kcik in the Vegas promo video. Straight up over his head like the beginning of the Panama video.

                Clearly he has been training physically.

                But his voice left the building around 1993 and is not going to show up again just like Eddie isn't gonna answer the bell.

                Good for Dave for wanting to work, but I wish someone would tell him he sounds horrible.

                But it's his life and legacy, and good on him for staying in shape and wanting to perform.

                I just hate to see him embarrass himself with his voice.
                I give Dave an A+ on physical conditioning. He's never slacked there. He just doesn't have the voice anymore nor the band. It's father time folks. It's not Dave's fault. He's aged. The Van Halen's are going we are old. We drank a oil tanker of liquor, smoked a plantation of tobacco and snorted Peru up our nose. Now we are paying for it. A tour would be fucking hell. We just can't admit it so we will hide and we never really liked Dave anyways so screw him. Dave is like, Oh yeah motherfuckers. Well I hurt too and I have to pop the blue pill now but I got the car keys and I'm stomping on the throttle until I blow out of a curve and plow through a bean field. Hopefully the Viagra has gone active by then.
                Last edited by Nitro Express; 10-09-2019, 07:19 PM.
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                • #53
                  I can only guess, but Dave might not realize he can entertain beyond music.

                  He must have more stories just from his travels (both urban and wilderness) then he does from the music business.

                  I would love to hear all of it. He could easily fill a book and do a spoken word tour.

                  I never gave a fuck about Dave and Eddie having conflict and it made great music, etc. The music is great. I don't need to hear the same shit for 40 years.

                  Within the past year or so, there was a DLR interview (probably on this site) where the interviewer asked him about almost drowning while sleeping in a sleeping bag in the jungle. Dave acknowledged, and then briefly elaborated beifre steering awy.

                  He always does that whenever asked about anything related to exercise or nutrition or non-music experiences. He even avoided the topic in the 80's.

                  That is the DLR I want t know about. I already know about the music related shit 50 times over.

                  He must have endless war stories.

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                  • #54
                    Narcissists don’t age gracefully. Dave has told plenty of stories. He did it on radio and got fired he did it on a podcast and people got tired. Dave did Vegas before with a bigger gig and he blew that. I think Noel Monk’s description of Dave was pretty accurate. Entertains in short busts and exhausting to be around long term. Never could make real friends or make a relationship work. An iron clad work ethic.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
                      Narcissists don’t age gracefully. Dave has told plenty of stories. He did it on radio and got fired he did it on a podcast and people got tired. Dave did Vegas before with a bigger gig and he blew that. I think Noel Monk’s description of Dave was pretty accurate. Entertains in short busts and exhausting to be around long term. Never could make real friends or make a relationship work. An iron clad work ethic.

                      I don't believe much about what Noel Monk says. He's a bitter greedy little manager who was ousted (probably for ripping off the band if you read this protests in the book).

                      He said many inaccurate things in the book. Dave had numerous long relationships and almost married numerous times.

                      And I think he has friends from all walks of life, all over the world.

                      None of us know Dave and cannot believe what other people say as absolute fact. Especially Noel Monk who clearly has bitterness issues.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
                        I don't believe much about what Noel Monk says. He's a bitter greedy little manager who was ousted (probably for ripping off the band if you read this protests in the book).

                        He said many inaccurate things in the book. Dave had numerous long relationships and almost married numerous times.

                        And I think he has friends from all walks of life, all over the world.

                        None of us know Dave and cannot believe what other people say as absolute fact. Especially Noel Monk who clearly has bitterness issues.
                        I agree.

                        I wouldn't take Monk's words as accurate. Just his take on Dave.

                        But from what other folks have said about him, like John 5 for instance, Dave is a great friend. He's still friends with the old EEAS band. Heck, I believe Greg plays on those John 5 tracks.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
                          Van Halen was a high energy band. Hard to do when you got stiffness and aches and pains you didn’t have before. Dave thinks he still can do it but he can’t. Maybe Ed and Alex are smart enough to leave when everyone is asking where are they instead of when people are saying please go! You suck!
                          There is something to be said for packing it in when you can't cut it anymore. Usually, the audience will let you know when the consensus is such by dwindling attendance.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
                            I don't believe much about what Noel Monk says. He's a bitter greedy little manager who was ousted (probably for ripping off the band if you read this protests in the book).

                            He said many inaccurate things in the book. Dave had numerous long relationships and almost married numerous times.

                            And I think he has friends from all walks of life, all over the world.

                            None of us know Dave and cannot believe what other people say as absolute fact. Especially Noel Monk who clearly has bitterness issues.
                            Dave is a narcissists. He’s actually not that different than the guy we have for president right now. They are good at bullshitting, they love everything to be about them, they like things big and grand, they can work a crowd but their private lives tend to be lacking. They are so exhausting to be around people tend to not like to be around them unless they get something out of it. Oh they have friends but friends who kind of go, oh shit, I’m going to have to sit there and hear how great he is and how big his current project is going to be.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express View Post
                              Dave is a narcissists. He’s actually not that different than the guy we have for president right now. They are good at bullshitting, they love everything to be about them, they like things big and grand, they can work a crowd but their private lives tend to be lacking. They are so exhausting to be around people tend to not like to be around them unless they get something out of it. Oh they have friends but friends who kind of go, oh shit, I’m going to have to sit there and hear how great he is and how big his current project is going to be.

                              Dave's private life is hardly lacking. He's been there and done that many times over. Travelled the world. Climbed mountains. Literally did things no one else ever even tried before (crossing the Star Mountains in New Guinea. First white man to do it). He and David Breashers attempted the first winter ascent of a Himalayan mountain (I forget the name, but no one else ever even attempted before).

                              He has lived in NYC, Tokyo, kayaked in the South Pacific.....on and on. Hardly lacking......He's lived the life of 10 experienced people and is still going.

                              Neither you nor I know anything about his private life beyond the little bits and pieces.

                              To say his life is lacking is boneheaded.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet View Post
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                                David Coverdale - OMG, sounds really bad. Feel bad for him.
                                ...
                                Why? He's a penis.

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