Bernie Sanders Receives MAJOR Endorsements

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  • twonabomber
    formerly F A T
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 11191

    #46
    What about this? I know that you'll dismiss it since it's on Fox News, but still...

    Obama feels Sanders is unfit to battle Trump – and he has told people he might say so publicly

    Obama has told people in private that Sanders is both temperamentally and politically unfit to beat Trump in the 2020 general election, these people say. Among his concerns are Sanders’ strident form of politics and confrontational manners where he was known not to seek compromise during his long years in the US senate. Meanwhile, Obama is said to worry that Sanders’ far-left policies, which include massive tax increases, free college tuition and massive student debt forgiveness, would alienate even traditional Democratic voters. And may alienate them enough to re-elect Trump, who is seeking a second term despite historically low favorability ratings given his own bombastic style, these people tell FOX Business.

    With that, Obama is weighing a more forceful rebuke of Sanders as the candidate to lead the Democrats in 2020, according to people who have spoken to the former president. It’s unclear if Obama will name Sanders specifically if he does indeed decide to make a statement or if he will address the matter in more general terms as he did in November. Obama may also decide to remain silent, particularly if Joe Biden, his former vice president, or Warren begin to overtake Sanders in the early primaries and in polling.
    Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #47
      Well... Barry thought Hillary WAS a good nominee in 2016. How well did that work out?
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32797

        #48
        Originally posted by FORD
        Hillary's not running. We already have a two time loser right wing warmongering bankster shill corporatist in the race, and that would be Biden. Hillary wouldn't want to split that vote.... which is also why Biden didn't run in 2016. They would cancel each other out.

        If Hillary's planning something, it's far more sinister..... and that would be gambling on a brokered Democratic convention where no candidate has secured enough pledged delegates to claim the nomination (Bernie, Biden, Warren, or Mayo Pete being the likely survivors at this point)

        Under the current rules of the Democratic party, only the pledged delegates can vote on the first ballot. Should there be no winner there, the so-called "superdelegates" come in on the second ballot. If they still can't decide on a winner, somebody might then suggest a "compromise" candidate that all parties can agree on. This is where Hillary might try to insert herself into the process, buy off the superdelegates, and emerge as the nominee without winning a single fucking primary vote.

        Or at least that's her dream scenario. Chances of it happening in reality? Bernie delegates aren't going to put up with it obviously. Warren delegates? Probably split there. Those who support her simply because of her gender would switch to Hillary in a heartbeat. Same with the Biden delegates who would settle for any right wing warmongering bankster shill corporatist. Mayo Pete's fans would probably prefer a younger corporatist, but if Hillary offered him the VP slot, they would probably be on board.

        Best way to avoid this? Bernie wrapping up the nomination by the end of March.
        Bernie will get the same treatment he did in the last election. It’s going to be a 2016 repeat. They are already setting the fall of Bernie up in the media. They want an establishment Democrat. They want a Biden, a Clinton or a Bloomberg. If Bernie gets the nomination that will cause a stock market crash and the 1% don’t want that.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
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          • Aug 2004
          • 32797

          #49
          Biden was the golden boy but his mind is going.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32797

            #50
            Originally posted by FORD
            Well... Barry thought Hillary WAS a good nominee in 2016. How well did that work out?
            It would have worked out great but too many people decided to give an outsider a chance because they were sick of career politicians.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Nitro Express
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              • Aug 2004
              • 32797

              #51
              Originally posted by twonabomber
              What about this? I know that you'll dismiss it since it's on Fox News, but still...

              Obama feels Sanders is unfit to battle Trump – and he has told people he might say so publicly



              https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...mp=hp1r_5,hp1r
              Ha! Ha! Obama doesn’t want to lose money due to Sanders winning. Like I said. The markets will panic if that guy gets in. Obama believes in crony capitalism for rich guys like him and socialism for everyone else. Socialism controlled by the rich. Sanders is a loose cannon so they don’t want him.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
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                • Jan 2004
                • 11191

                #52
                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                Bernie will get the same treatment he did in the last election. It’s going to be a 2016 repeat. They are already setting the fall of Bernie up in the media. They want an establishment Democrat. They want a Biden, a Clinton or a Bloomberg. If Bernie gets the nomination that will cause a stock market crash and the 1% don’t want that.
                Until one of the Republican PACs starts running ads about Bloomberg's "stop and frisk" policy, and he loses the black vote. He's done.
                Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #53
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  If Trump survives this impeachment trial horseshit (He's guilty but I don't really care. I felt the same way about Bubba's impeachment.) I'd love to see the look on Hillary's ugly face after she loses again. Whether you like it or not Trump won by the rules that were in place at the time of the election. The Electoral College system. I don't see that changing this election. Personally I'd rather see someone else win but I haven't seen anyone who's running now I'd prefer. They all suck.
                  It’s all devolved down to a joke. The US Government is DEVO. It’s devolving. That’s what happens when governments become corrupt. The majority of the US public don’t give a shit. The ones who still care about politics are mostly partisan. What keeps things going is the US Dollar is still the best fiat in the world. Everyone still wants a dollar.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #54
                    Originally posted by twonabomber
                    Until one of the Republican PACs starts running ads about Bloomberg's "stop and frisk" policy, and he loses the black vote. He's done.
                    Trump will get another term. Then 2024 will be real wild. The thing is in the not too distant past both parties understood the integrity of our system of government came first. The partisans games dissolved when it got to the point of damaging the integrity of the rule of law or elections. I think we are heading to where having an election will be impossible because nobody will want to play inside of any kind of set of rules. We are devolving into one nonstop pissing match with nothing getting fixed.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35160

                      #55
                      Originally posted by twonabomber
                      What about this? I know that you'll dismiss it since it's on Fox News, but still...

                      Obama feels Sanders is unfit to battle Trump – and he has told people he might say so publicly



                      https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...mp=hp1r_5,hp1r

                      I honestly believe that more than 95% of Americans over the age of 12 years old would be more fit to be president than Trump, probably higher. The problem is that the process of being elected president doesn't have anything much at all to do with how good you would be at the job.

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35160

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        It’s all devolved down to a joke. The US Government is DEVO. It’s devolving. That’s what happens when governments become corrupt. The majority of the US public don’t give a shit. The ones who still care about politics are mostly partisan. What keeps things going is the US Dollar is still the best fiat in the world. Everyone still wants a dollar.
                        If you don't realize how much more corrupt the US federal government has got since Trump was elected you aren't paying attention. You are obsessed with money fine - what happens at the next financial meltdown but this time no one trusts the government? You must know that the whole system is smoke and mirrors and bullshit, without trust in government it's fucked.

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35160

                          #57
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          I don't think being consistent for your whole life is necessarily a good thing, you should change your opinion as the world changes.

                          That said the stupid thing that will happen if he is nominated is that there will be a massive FEAR campaign launched against him which could very well work because most voters have no idea how the system works. They view their president as a temporary king having no idea that Bernie won't get anything even remotely radical enacted into law because even if somehow the Democrats won control of the senate, there would always be a few Democrat senators blocking him.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            If you don't realize how much more corrupt the US federal government has got since Trump was elected you aren't paying attention. You are obsessed with money fine - what happens at the next financial meltdown but this time no one trusts the government? You must know that the whole system is smoke and mirrors and bullshit, without trust in government it's fucked.
                            It’s been corrupt a long time Sesh and partisan politics has little to do with it. Both parties are guilty for the mess so that’s not even worth arguing about. Both Democrats and Republicans are career politicians. The US Congress is full of them and a large percentage of them have gotten rich in office and they stay in office either due to voter fraud, pork or an apathetic public. If you have people who have been in office for 30 years and have gotten rich while being there the rich have the best government they can buy.

                            What keeps it all going is people want a US Dollar still. Everyone knows our government is corrupt. Everyone knows we meddle and play all sorts of geopolitical games. We no longer have the nice guy image we had after World War II. George W Bush kind of put the coffin nail in that by invading Iraq on a lie and it’s been downhill from there.

                            Meanwhile everyone is so stuck in partisan bullshit nothing is going to change. This country is either going to split apart or one side has to conquer the other to keep it intact. It will be interesting. The US of the past is disappearing and you can blame whoever you want for it.
                            Last edited by Nitro Express; 01-24-2020, 05:59 AM.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              I don't think being consistent for your whole life is necessarily a good thing, you should change your opinion as the world changes.

                              That said the stupid thing that will happen if he is nominated is that there will be a massive FEAR campaign launched against him which could very well work because most voters have no idea how the system works. They view their president as a temporary king having no idea that Bernie won't get anything even remotely radical enacted into law because even if somehow the Democrats won control of the senate, there would always be a few Democrat senators blocking him.
                              Americans are no longer unified in what they want. It used to be the mass majority had an interest in preserving our constitutional republic. That’s changed now and hell we can’t even agree on what gender is anymore. Both the Democrats and Republicans used to respect the rule of law and they were careful not to cross the line where pushing things would endanger the political process. That attitude is gone now. In short. A divided house does not stand. I think the political process we have seen work in the past has become unworkable. Our government can fix anything because components of it are too busy trying to undermine each other. They public can’t agree on who the good guys and bud guys are. It’s a divide and conquer wet dream.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32797

                                #60
                                All these elections are anymore is a bunch of old narcissists fighting over who gets to be captain of the Titanic. They all can go down with the ship as far as I’m concerned. I’m just hoping to get in a lifeboat.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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