Ozzy Osbourne has revealed he's been diagnosed with Parkinson's

[cadaverdog]

Not to be cold but at 71 Ozzy is on borrowed time, I'm pretty he fuckwell thought he'd never make it to 70...

I'm surprised he's not a member of the 27 club.

[Seshmeister]

Probably why I actually felt glad Neal Peart passed on pretty quick.

For us maybe but he had brain cancer for 3 years FFS.

[Seshmeister]

Not to be cold but at 71 Ozzy is on borrowed time, I'm pretty he fuckwell thought he'd never make it to 70...

Hey I've been a fan since I was a kid but it is strange when you think about how by his mid 30s he had recorded just about everything significant he was going to and then the second half of his life was just repeating that.

That of course is not so uncommon among rock artists, the unusual bit with Ozzy is that apart from a little dip in the 90s he got bigger and bigger.

[Terry]

Hey I've been a fan since I was a kid but it is strange when you think about how by his mid 30s he had recorded just about everything significant he was going to and then the second half of his life was just repeating that.

That of course is not so uncommon among rock artists, the unusual bit with Ozzy is that apart from a little dip in the 90s he got bigger and bigger.

Pretty much by the time Diary Of A Madman was released, that capped off the best of Ozzy's career. Perhaps somewhere between a 1/2 dozen and a dozen good tunes total after Diary.

Were I to see Ozzy and the setlist was comprised solely of material from Sabbath's first album to Diary, I wouldn't feel letdown in the least.

[Seshmeister]

Pretty much by the time Diary Of A Madman was released, that capped off the best of Ozzy's career. Perhaps somewhere between a 1/2 dozen and a dozen good tunes total after Diary.

Were I to see Ozzy and the setlist was comprised solely of material from Sabbath's first album to Diary, I wouldn't feel letdown in the least.

He's done setlists like that even in the last decade where 95% of the songs were from the first 1/4 of his career.

I'm fine with that, my problem is him not giving credit or payment to Bob Daisley.

[Terry]

He's done setlists like that even in the last decade where 95% of the songs were from the first 1/4 of his career.

I'm fine with that, my problem is him not giving credit or payment to Bob Daisley.

Yeah, Daisley ultimately got screwed over the long run in terms of payment: attentive fans know what Daisley did in terms of constructing the songs, but who cares how many people know that if you don't get paid for it?

Having said that, I always thought it a bit weird that Daisley kept going back and working with Ozzy post-Diary through the No More Tears album: even though Daisley said he made sure post-Diary that whenever he worked with Ozzy he got his performance credit/payments for the albums, it's still bizarre that one would even go back and work once with someone who screwed you over...never mind over multiple albums...and he did the BATM tour.

But Ozzy himself always sort of gets a pass regarding the mercenary approach Sharon took toward Daisley, Kerslake, Jake E. Lee - and who knows how many other members of Ozzy's various solo lineups - and the business/financial shenanigans regarding songwriting credits and payments. Ozzy has often claimed that he doesn't get involved in the business side of rock and roll, doesn't want to know about it, etc. But Ozzy was taking the money appropriated by Sharon that should have went to the players, so...in for a penny, in for a pound. The general consensus seems to be that Ozzy has been fucked up for so long that one can't blame him for what Sharon did, but I don't quite buy into that.

I mean, how bizarre is it that Ozzy now has sole songwriting credit (for music and lyrics) for the Bark At The Moon album? Ozzy couldn't play a guitar to save his life. At least Jake E. Lee came to his senses relatively early in the game - compared to Daisley, anyway- in terms of realizing the screwing he was getting financially and royalty-wise.

[Seshmeister]

I agree with all of that and Daisley going back repeatedly seems weird unless you think of it it terms of just surviving as a jobbing bass player. Pride doesn't pay the bills and for a lot of the time he probably thought it was Don Arden screwing him over rather than Sharon. I remember reading a panicked letter by Bob Daisley in the premier UK rock magazine Kerrang way back in the late 80s where he tried to step back an interview the previous week saying he had written all the lyrics on the first 2 albums. I don't know the figures but I would guess they would give him set 5 figure fees for his subsequent work and he just couldn't turn that down in the late 80s early 90s.

Usually with these 80s bands the fighting is about scraps, people trying to live in their middle ages from what's left of money that the record company screwed them over at the time. What annoys me most about the Daisley Osbourne dispute is that not only was 95% of his subsequent musical career based on the Daisley stuff they made a second and third fortune in the last 20 years. They are now worth upwards of $200 million!! What sort of weird psycho cunt wouldn't give Daisley and Kerslake a few million of that???

The same kind of psycho that shits in a hotel lobby while screaming 'I WANT THAT WAITRESS SACKED' because she won't serve your semi-comatose husband another drink?

She's a fucking monster pretending to be Tweetie Pie's lovable owner. She is just about the only person I shout at the TV at.

[Terry]

Yeah, I suppose. First time I saw Daisley play was live at the Providence Civic Center on the BATM tour to a crowd of 15k. Next time I saw him play was in 1987 in Gary Moore's band at a Providence club called The Living Room to a crowd of 500. So clearly continuing to work with Ozzy in the 1980s - even after getting ousted from the lineup after Diary was recorded - was probably more lucrative than most other options Daisley had at the time.

The funny thing is, the more influence Sharon exerted over Ozzy's career, the lamer Ozzy became. My impression is that Sharon was initially working with Ozzy in the late 1970s as sort of a minder for her father Don Arden's management interests, during a period where Ozzy was fairly uncontrollable in terms of his behavior. From everything I've read, Sharon had little to no input on the first two Ozzy solo albums in terms of musical/creative content or in terms of who was tapped to play in the band at that point. Once Sharon split from her father and got control of Ozzy's contract and became Ozzy's manager, right around the time Ozzy was touring the Diary Of A Madman album, you saw the glitz slowly start to seep in. I mean, by the time The Ultimate Sin was released, the music sounded like it was following the mid-1980s American hair metal template by design and 'Vegas Ozzy' was the image of the day.

I would say Ozzy has been fortunate to have in his wife a manager who was/is ruthless in terms of putting Ozzy's interests first, even if in part because Ozzy's financial interests directly affected her own financial interests. As to the lengths Sharon went to at times... well, there's different ways of doing business. People have to be able to live with themselves...the thing with that is there are plenty of people out there who will screw anybody and everybody over at the drop of a hat to further their own interests (or just because they get off on being assholes) and sleep perfectly fine at night. Doubtless, if she ever even thinks about Daisley at all, Sharon thinks of him as 'the help': he served a purpose decades ago, he should feel lucky he was allowed the privilege to work with Ozzy (rather than thinking of Daisley - and Randy Rhoads - as two guys who helped salvage Ozzy's post-Black Sabbath career by writing the vast bulk of the material on those two first solo albums) and if anything Daisley was OVERPAID the first time around because of said privilege.

Makes you wonder what Sharon would be saying about Randy Rhoads today had Rhoads not died, instead quit Ozzy's band and went on to sue the Osbournes for unpaid record royalties. [The Osbournes] would have Jake E. Lee'd Rhoads, too.

[Seshmeister]

She claims to have had sex with Randy of course so at least Bob Daisley never had to go through that.

[Terry]

Yet she still found a way to give him a good screwing regardless.

[Nickdfresh]

She claims to have had sex with Randy of course so at least Bob Daisley never had to go through that.

Well the dead can't speak nor defend themselves, but I doubt that...

[Nickdfresh]

He's on the Grammy's now...

[FORD]

Unfortunately so is his cunt wife.

[Terry]

Well the dead can't speak nor defend themselves, but I doubt that...

Maybe Randy had a bit too much in the way of pills, potions and/or powders re: post-gig celebration one night, and in a hazy blur threw Sharon a one-off pity fuck because Ozzy was passed out.

[twonabomber]

And now the North American tour is canceled...

Ozzy Osbourne Cancels North American ‘No More Tours 2’ Dates Due to Illness

Ozzy Osbourne has canceled the upcoming North American leg of his No More Tours 2 as he seeks treatment for health setbacks. Early last year, the singer suffered a fall that required surgery, sidelining him from touring. Earlier this year, he revealed that he had been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease.

“I’m so thankful that everyone has been patient because I’ve had a shit year,” Osbourne said in a statement. “Unfortunately, I won’t be able to get to Switzerland for treatment until April and the treatment takes six to eight weeks. I don’t want to start a tour and then cancel shows at the last minute, as it’s just not fair to the fans. I’d rather they get a refund now and when I do the North American tour down the road, everyone who bought a ticket for these shows will be the first ones in line to purchase tickets at that time.”

Full refunds, including fees, will be available at the point of purchase. Those who had bought tickets to the tour will get first access when rescheduled dates go on sale.

The North American leg of the trek was set to kick off on May 27th in Atlanta and run through a July 31st gig in Las Vegas. A European leg is still on the books and will kick off in Newcastle, England on October 23rd; the cancellation does not affect these dates.

The timing for the cancelled U.S. dates is unfortunate, as Osbourne is in the midst of promoting a new album, Ordinary Man, which comes out Friday. He still has an in-store signing at Amoeba Hollywood planned for that day, as well as a tattoo-parlor takeover on Thursday, where fans will get to hear the album in full while receiving an Ozzy-inspired tattoo.

Ordinary Man features a star-studded group of collaborators including Elton John, Post Malone, and members of Guns N’ Roses, Rage Against the Machine, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Post Malone’s producer, Andrew Watt, helmed the record and played guitar on it. Osbourne recently explained at a SiriusXM event in Los Angeles that making the record with Watt was therapeutic for him. “I’d been feeling like fucking death,” he said. “And Andrew was a shining light for me.”