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    2020 Iowa Caucus results thread

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    And that Des Moines Register poll that got held back over the weekend. Now we know why.... because it had Biden in a distant FOURTH place, behind Bernie, Warren, and Mayo Pete.

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    Andrew Yang's slogan is "MATH" and it seems his supporters in Iowa have done their math......


    Huge round of applause in Dubuque Precinct 9A as @AndrewYang backers move as a group to caucus with @BernieSanders group.@thenation pic.twitter.com/yIDzeQGBWP

    — John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) February 4, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    And that Des Moines Register poll that got held back over the weekend. Now we know why.... because it had Biden in a distant FOURTH place, behind Bernie, Warren, and Mayo Pete.
    Oh please Ford, he's only distant anything in college towns...
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    The app is fucked up apparently, which doesn't really bode well for Democratic politics...

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    Now claiming that the system didn't go down and there was no hack, but that there were "inconsistencies" with three reporting districts and they want to confirm with the paper-trail...

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    Their "hotline" is down, too. A ready-made excuse for the candidate that finishes last.

    Shawn Sebastian, a precinct secretary in Story County, was live on CNN as he simultaneously sat on hold with the the Iowa Democrats, attempting to report his county's results.

    Just a moment into his call to CNN, the party picked up — and then the line got disconnected.

    "I have been on hold for over an hour with the Iowa Democratic Party," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. He said that they first tried to use an app, but that didn't work. They then turned to a hotline.

    "We've been recommended to call in to the hotline, and the hotline has not been responsive," he said.

    In that moment, someone on the other end of the hotline picked up.

    "This is a real coincidence, Wolf. I just got off hold, just now, so I've got to get off the phone to report the results," he told CNN. He stayed on CNN's air as he began to report his county's results.

    That's when the hotline went dead.

    "They hung up on me," he said.
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    Apparently this goddamned "app" was written by Hillary's "former" campaign manager, Robby Mook. So maybe the app fucking up wasn't a bug, it was the feature.

    Good news there is that Bernie's team developed their own app, so they'll have the true numbers to compare with whatever the DNC's app is showing.

    Last numbers I saw though had Bernie in the lead, Mayo Pete a close second, Warren third, Klobuchar fourth, and poor old dementia Joe going down to his third Iowa defeat in fifth place.

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    Now I have to watch a bunch of fucking tedious speeches because no one knows WTF is going on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Apparently this goddamned "app" was written by Hillary's "former" campaign manager, Robby Mook. So maybe the app fucking up wasn't a bug, it was the feature.

    Good news there is that Bernie's team developed their own app, so they'll have the true numbers to compare with whatever the DNC's app is showing.

    Last numbers I saw though had Bernie in the lead, Mayo Pete a close second, Warren third, Klobuchar fourth, and poor old dementia Joe going down to his third Iowa defeat in fifth place.
    There is no way he is in fourth. But Bernie may well win it...

    Your boy is up to speak next...

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    The Biden Campaign is asking for an official explanation, chastising the Iowa arm of the Dems for poor quality control...

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    This app was developed by a group called "Shadow" which is a spinoff of an establishment friendly "dark money" superpac called "Pacronym". And the Pacronym website says absolutely ZERO about who they are. Well isn't that convenient......

    More curious is that the Mayo Pete campaign reportedly helped fund this app. If Biden's team is questioning anything, I hope they start there.

    otherwise they look like Karl Rove having a meltdown when Obama won Ohio in 2012 (because he had paid for a different outcome already)

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    The App was developed by the developmentally disabled and Iowa Democrats look like idiots right now...

    This may be the end of their caucuses for either party, it may be the end to the caucus system...
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    Admitting now that there were serious code errors in the App. I think using an app for this sort of thing is a bit idiotic and stilts it towards the younger vote. Buttigieg is claiming he was doing the best but who knows.....

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    Pro-Israel Buttigieg backer Seth Klarman is top funder of Iowa’s disastrous app

    Behind the app that delayed Iowa’s voting results is a dark money operation funded by anti-Sanders billionaires. Its top donor, Seth Klarman, is a Buttigieg backer who has dumped money into pro-settler Israel lobby groups.
    By Max Blumenthal


    At the time of publication, twelve hours after voting in the Democratic Party’s Iowa caucuses ended, the results have not been announced. The delay in reporting is the result of a failed app developed by a company appropriately named Shadow Inc.

    This firm was staffed by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama campaign veterans and created by a Democratic dark money nonprofit backed by hedge fund billionaires including Seth Klarman. A prolific funder of pro-settler Israel lobby organizations, Klarman has also contributed directly to Pete Buttigieg’s campaign.

    The delay in the vote reporting denied a victory speech to Sen. Bernie Sanders, the presumptive winner of the opening contest in the Democratic presidential primary. Though not one exit poll indicated that Buttigieg would have won, the South Bend, Indiana mayor took to Twitter to confidently proclaim himself the victor.

    Iowa, you have shocked the nation.

    By all indications, we are going on to New Hampshire victorious. #IowaCaucuses

    — Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) February 4, 2020
    The bizarre scenario was made possible by a mysterious voting app whose origins had been kept secret by Democratic National Committee officials. For hours, it was unclear who created the failed technology, or how it wound up in the hands of Iowa party officials.

    Though a dark money Democratic operation turned out to be the source of the disastrous app, suspicion initially centered on former Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook and his Russiagate-related elections integrity initiative.

    Leveraging Russia hysteria into lucrative election opportunities

    While Iowa Democratic Party Chairman Troy Price refused to say who was behind the failed app, he told NPR that he “worked with the national party’s cybersecurity team and Harvard University’s Defending Digital Democracy project…” Price did not offer details on his collaboration with the Harvard group, however.

    The New York Times reported that this same outfit had teamed up with Iowa Democrats to run a “drill of worst-case scenarios” and possible foreign threats, but was also vague on details.

    Robby Mook, the former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton’s failed 2016 presidential campaign, was the co-founder of Defending Digital Democracy. His initiative arose out of the national freakout over Russian meddling that he and his former boss helped stir when they blamed their loss on Russian interference. Mook’s new outfit pledged to “protect from hackers and propaganda attacks.”

    He founded the organization with help from Matt Rhoades, a former campaign manager for Republican Mitt Romney whose public relations company was sued by a Silicon Valley investor after it branded him “an agent of the Russian government” and “a friend of Russian President, Vladimir Putin.” Rhoades’ firm had been contracted by a business rival to destroy the investor’s reputation.

    As outrage grew over the delay in Iowa caucus results, Mook publicly denied any role in designing the notorious app.

    .@RobbyMook, you may not have built the app, but the @nytimes is reporting that you were involved in stress testing it.

    Any comment? https://t.co/OHOVs2vX4u pic.twitter.com/2FmbnZc4tT

    — Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) February 4, 2020
    Hours later, journalist Lee Fang reported that a previously unknown tech outfit called Shadow Inc. had contracted with the Iowa Democratic Party to create the failed technology. The firm was comprised of former staffers for Obama, Clinton and the tech industry, and had been paid for services by the Buttigieg campaign.
    FEC filings show the Iowa Democratic party and Buttigieg campaign paid Shadow Inc.

    An Israel lobby moneyman’s path to Mayor Pete’s wine cave

    Shadow Inc. was launched by a major Democratic dark money nonprofit called Acronym, which also gave birth to a $7.7 million Super PAC known as Pacronym.

    According to Sludge, Pacronym’s largest donor is Seth Klarman. A billionaire hedge funder, Klarman also happens to be a top donor to Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar.

    Though he has attracted some attention for his role in the campaign, Klarman’s prolific funding of the pro-settler Israel lobby and Islamophobic initiatives has gone almost entirely unmentioned.

    Seth Klarman is the founder of the Boston-based Baupost Group hedge fund and a longtime donor to corporate Republican candidates. After Donald Trump called for forgiving Puerto Rico’s debt, Klarman – the owner of $911 million of the island’s bonds – flipped and began funding Trump’s opponents.

    The billionaire’s crusade against Trump ultimately led him to Mayor Pete’s wine cave.

    By the end of 2019, Klarman had donated $5600 to Buttigieg and pumped money into the campaigns of Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris as well.

    The billionaire’s support centrist candidates appears to be not only by his own financial interests, but by his deep and abiding ideological commitment to Israel and its expansionist project.

    As I reported for Mondoweiss, Klarman has been a top funder for major Israel lobby outfits, including those that support the expansion of illegal settlements and Islamophobic initiatives.

    Klarman was the principal funder of The Israel Project, the recently disbanded Israeli government-linked propaganda organization that lobbied against the Iran nuclear deal and backed the Israeli settlement enterprise.

    Klarman has heaped hundreds of thousands of dollars on the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) and the American Jewish Committee. And he funded The David Project, which was established to suppress Palestine solidarity organizing on campuses across the US and battled to block the establishment of a Muslim community center in Boston.

    Through his support for the Friends of Ir David Inc, Klarman directly involved himself in the Israeli settlement enterprise, assisting the US-based tax exempt arm of the organization that oversaw a wave of Palestinian expulsions in the occupied East Jerusalem neighborhood of Silwan.

    Other pro-Israel groups reaping the benefits of Klarman’s generosity include Birthright Israel, the AIPAC-founded Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), a neoconservative think tank that helped devise Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign of economic warfare on Iran.

    Klarman is the owner of the Times of Israel, an Israeli media outlet that once published a call for Palestinian genocide. (The op-ed was ultimately removed following public backlash).

    In recent weeks, Buttigieg has sought to distinguish himself from Sanders on the issue of Israel-Palestine. During a testy exchange this January with a self-proclaimed Jewish supporter of Palestinian human rights, the South Bend mayor backtracked on a previous pledge to withhold military aid to Israel if it annexed parts of the West Bank.

    NEW: The day after Trump unveiled his plan green-lighting Israeli annexation and Netanyahu’s announcement of a cabinet vote on annexation this Tuesday, @PeteButtigieg backtracked on his repeated promise that the "U.S. will not foot the bill for annexation." #StopFundingOccupation pic.twitter.com/dldyRnI5lo

    — IfNotNow🔥 (@IfNotNowOrg) January 30, 2020

    Another recipient of Klarman’s funding, Amy Klobuchar, has taken a strongly pro-Israel line, vowing to support Trump’s relocation of the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
    Battling Bernie with hedge fund money and sexism claims

    Like Klarman, Donald Sussman is a hedge funder who has channeled his fortune into Pacronym. He has given $1 million to the Super PAC and was also top donor to Clinton in 2016.

    Sussman’s Paloma Partners operates through a series of offshore shell companies, and received tens of millions of dollars in the 2009 federal bailout of the banking industry.

    His daughter, Democratic operative Emily Tisch Sussman, declared on MSNBC in September that “if you still support Sanders over Warren, it’s kind of showing your sexism.”

    MSNBC pundit says if you support Bernie Sanders over Elizabeth Warren it’s “showing your sexism.” pic.twitter.com/fghFIqOF6C

    — Ibrahim (@ibrahimpols) September 27, 2019
    As Democratic elites like the Sussmans braced for a Bernie Sanders triumph in Iowa, a mysterious piece of technology spun out by a group they supported delayed the vote results, preventing Sanders from delivering a victory speech. And the politician many of them supported, Pete Buttigieg, exploited the moment to declare himself the winner. In such a strange scenario, the conspiracy theories write themselves.

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    Someone didn’t like the data results. Biden and Warren’s numbers were down and Sanders was up. Lot’s of Wall Street money flows into the Democrat Party. They have no control over Bernie and him winning would panic the markets. So we can’t have that can we? The Washington Post is even saying Iowa isn’t important when before they were. Nothing to see folks. Move on. Iowa is not important. They want to shove Joe in with a running mate who will be really running things. Warren is the second choice. They are even fudging poll numbers to make Biden and Warren to look like they are doing better than they really are. Bloomberg seems to be on his own expensive ego trip.
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    http://www.dickmorris.com/dems-try-t...aign=dmreports

    The toe sucker is spot on. They are trying to hide Bernie’s popularity and Biden’s collapse. I think we will see a tied convention with a Warren/Clinton nomination. We will see how ape the Sanders people go. Last time not much happened. Bernie will get a nice buyout and he will take it like last time. Mrs Sanders will be happy as hell. More $$$$ to spend and she doesn’t have to be First Lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Behind the app that delayed Iowa’s voting results is a dark money operation funded by anti-Sanders billionaires. Its top donor, Seth Klarman, is a Buttigieg backer who has dumped money into pro-settler Israel lobby groups.
    By Max Blumenthal

    .....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    http://www.dickmorris.com/dems-try-t...aign=dmreports

    The toe sucker is spot on. They are trying to hide Bernie’s popularity and Biden’s collapse. I think we will see a tied convention with a Warren/Clinton nomination. We will see how ape the Sanders people go. Last time not much happened. Bernie will get a nice buyout and he will take it like last time. Mrs Sanders will be happy as hell. More $$$$ to spend and she doesn’t have to be First Lady.
    The problem with both of these nonsense, completely nonfact-checked conspiracy shit posts is that Buttigieg appeared to be winning in Iowa based on several mainstream news outlets. WTF would they pull the plug when he was winning?

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    Can anyone explain to me why lily-white Iowa, or New Hampshire for that matter, should have anymore influence on the electoral process than any other state?

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    BTW, there is a clear paper-trail for everything, so even if the app was rigged, it wouldn't matter anyways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The problem with both of these nonsense, completely nonfact-checked conspiracy shit posts is that Buttigieg appeared to be winning in Iowa based on several mainstream news outlets. WTF would they pull the plug when he was winning?
    Because he WASN'T winning. Yeah, he led the Iowa polls for several weeks before the caucus. But Bernie caught up and was leading the last few weeks.

    And here's how the numbers looked right before the party pulled the plug last night......


    According to Jeff Weaver, the numbers after the post-realignment inclusive of 60% of the precincts.

    Sanders - 29.4%
    Buttigieg - 24.87%
    Warren - 20.65%
    Biden - 12.92%
    Klobuchar - 11.018%
    That's a strong second place for Pete. Nothing he should complain about really. But the real goal of the DLC establishment tools here is to deny Bernie the favorable press coverage that usually comes with being announced the winner of the Iowa caucus. And between Cheeto's "State of the Union" speech tonight, the possible fucked up ending of ImOrangement tomorrow, and yet another debate on Thursday, the corporate media will now be preoccupied with those headlines to give Bernie any airtime, even if they announce the official results today or tomorrow.

    Bernie's expected to win New Hampshire already, but the corporate whores don't want him going into it as the "official" front runner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Can anyone explain to me why lily-white Iowa, or New Hampshire for that matter, should have anymore influence on the electoral process than any other state?
    They shouldn't of course. No two states should ALWAYS go first, regardless of which state it is or whether it's "lily white" or whatever.

    I remember posting several years ago about my proposal for a complete revision of the primary system, replacing this whole corporate media driven fucked up two year night mare with a 6 week primary system with states rotating every for years, so that every state (and territories, Guam, Puerto Rico, DC, etc.) gets their turn at being one of the "first". Only problem is when exactly to schedule it. March wouldn't work, because my proposal includes elections on the weekend, and competing with "March Madness" could be problematic. So then we hold the first 10 states the 2nd weekend in April, after the NCAA championship is over.

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    Yeah.... too bad he's a corrupt assed weasel.

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    Nobody who threatens the banking class will be allowed to be President. Period. Simple as that. You can be a Democrat. You can stand for anything but if you threaten the banking class, the system will turn on you. The media. The party. You can't change the system inside the system. You have your choices of rigged candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah.... too bad he's a corrupt assed weasel.
    Pete Buttplug

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitro express View Post
    nobody who threatens the banking class will be allowed to be president. Period. Simple as that. You can be a democrat. You can stand for anything but if you threaten the banking class, the system will turn on you. The media. The party. You can't change the system inside the system. You have your choices of rigged candidates.
    stfu...

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    The Cascadia caucus never had these kind of clusterfucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah.... too bad he's a corrupt assed weasel.
    It seems unlikely that the USA is ready for a gay president called ButtGig but I did say the same kind of thing about Obama...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    stfu...
    Nitro is always wrong when he says 'they are all the same' but saying that the media and money won't tolerate Saunders he is probably correct - the push back on Bernie could be massive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Nitro is always wrong when he says 'they are all the same' but saying that the media and money won't tolerate Saunders he is probably correct - the push back on Bernie could be massive...
    And everything comes back to those JEEEWWWWSSS at the Trilateral Guild and Commission Association of Zion. Does anyone really think the people that run banks are fucking competent enough to mastermind an office Christmas party much less political intrigues...

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    You really really WANT to beLIEve:

    Amid irregularities, AP unable to declare winner in Iowa
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    Caucus goers check in at a caucus at Roosevelt Hight School, Monday, Feb. 3, 2020, in Des Moines, Iowa. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)
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    DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — The Associated Press said Thursday that it is unable to declare a winner of Iowa's Democratic caucuses.

    With 97% of precincts reporting from Monday's caucuses, former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg leads Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by three state delegate equivalents out of 2,098 counted. That is a margin of 0.14 percentage points
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    FORD -

    Thank you, Iowa!

    A short while ago in Manchester, New Hampshire, I held a press conference that should have occurred three nights ago in Des Moines, Iowa — but for the unfortunate inability of the Iowa Democratic Party to count votes in a timely fashion. That screw up has been extremely unfair to the people of Iowa, the candidates and all of their supporters.

    So what I want to do today, three days late, is to thank the people of Iowa for the very strong victory they gave us at the Iowa caucuses on Monday night.

    Even though the vote tabulations have been very slow, we are now at a point where 97 percent of the votes have been counted and we are winning the popular initial vote by some 6,000 votes.

    In other words, some 6,000 more Iowans came out on caucus night to support our candidacy than the candidacy of any other candidate.

    And when 6,000 more people come out for you in an election than your next nearest opponent, we call that a victory.

    In a contest with voter turnout of approximately 180,000, and with eight strong candidates competing, a victory margin of some 6,000 is decisive.

    Further, in Iowa there is a realignment process whereby people who supported a candidate with less than 15% in the room can cast a vote in a second round for a different candidate. In that post-realignment vote we are ahead by over 2,500 votes.

    And the reason that happened is because of the unprecedented grassroots effort of our campaign.

    Thousands of volunteers knocked on hundreds of thousands of doors in the cold and snow. And I want to thank each and every volunteer who participated in that effort, and to thank all of our grassroots campaign contributors whose financial support made that victory possible.

    And now that Iowa is finally behind us, let me take this opportunity to thank the thousands of volunteers we have here in New Hampshire who are working so hard to bring us to victory. They are knocking on doors, they are making phone calls, they are doing all the things that lead to a winning campaign.

    Now as everyone knows, the Iowa process is enormously complicated. In my view, far too complicated.

    As it stands right now either myself or Mr. Buttigieg will end with a tiny fraction of an advantage in the State Delegate Equivalents (SDEs).

    Given the remaining precincts outstanding, and mathematical errors which we are discovering in the data, we could well end up with more SDEs. But this difference, no matter who inches ahead in the end, is meaningless because we are both likely to receive the same number of national delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee.

    So now we are in New Hampshire, where we are fighting hard to win. As in Iowa, we have thousands of volunteers working hard which is precisely what the political revolution is all about.

    Thank you so much for your support, let’s go forward together.

    In solidarity,

    Bernie Sanders

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