2020 South Carolina Primary Results Thread

[Terry]

Ford's right, if the economy begins to go into recession because of Shittybeervirus, then the whole "socialist Bernie" thing backfires on Trump...

Actually pretty much anything backfires on Drumpf, the whole "Hey! Yeah I'm a fucking asshole dumbsumofabitch, but hey the economy's great so so what?!" thing backfires, which is why drumpf and his band of dumbshit petties are already melting down...

I won't be sad if Trump loses, regardless of which current Democratic hopeful aspiring for the nomination gets it.

[Seshmeister]

I must say, Trump putting Mike Pence in charge of the Administration's handling of the coronavirus doesn't exactly mean much of anything to me, other than perhaps a person for Trump to lay blame on later should the virus situation in this country turn out to be mismanaged: Pence has never exactly reeked of any particular competence in terms of a practical administrative skillset.

Indeed, the coronavirus and the containment of it may well end up being the "potential big event on the world stage" that Trump won't be able to walk between the raindrops on, or sidestep with a rude tweet. It doesn't strain credulity to posit that something is going to happen at some point which is going to require any president to demonstrate leadership as opposed to showmanship.

If we somehow get through a Trump presidency and the only major incident that happens on his watch is this flu then the planet has been really fucking lucky.

[Seshmeister]

So the corporate mediawhores IMMEDIATELY call it for Biden with 0% of the precincts reporting.

Correctly.

[private parts]

If we somehow get through a Trump presidency and the only major incident that happens on his watch is this flu then the planet has been really fucking lucky.

"Lucky"? or something else?

[private parts]

Does it worry you at all how enthusiastic Republican commentators and Trump himself are about facing Bernie?

Do you think they are bluffing or just wrong?

Oh Trump can't wait to face Bernie. It's a guaranteed victory. Unfortunately, the Dems have gotten the message and it will be Uncle Joe. See South Carolina.

[FORD]

Bernie's actually the only one who has consistently beaten the Orange Asshole in polls by the largest margin in both 2016 and 2020. The DNC would be damned fools (or more accurately, clueless corporate whores) to ignore this fact a second time.

[twonabomber]

Bloomberg is going to be the one who fucks everything up. Watch him run as an independent and become this year's Ross Perot.

[FORD]

Because of Ross Perot, the two major parties have pretty much guaranteed a stranglehold on the political process. All of Bloomberg's money won't buy him ballot access or a place on the debate stage if he runs as a third party. And because of that, he won't do any better than Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, Rocky Anderson, or any of the others long forgotten.

[Nickdfresh]

Bernie's actually the only one who has consistently beaten the Orange Asshole in polls....

Ford that is just not true, almost EVERY Dem candidate beats Trump in almost every poll...

[Nickdfresh]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

[Terry]

If we somehow get through a Trump presidency and the only major incident that happens on his watch is this flu then the planet has been really fucking lucky.

I certainly felt that way throughout most of 2017.

I will say, thus far, jaw-dropping rhetoric aside, Trump has shown a restraint in terms of foreign affairs - specifically a military restraint - that has surprised me. If this restraint owes more to the JCS slow-walking Trump's worst impulses or to just plain luck of circumstance than Trump's judgement I'm not 100% sure of.

I didn't vote for the man, and won't be this fall, but in terms of what I said above...it would be disingenuous not to acknowledge what I did.

Even if I didn't vote for a particular President, I still want to see said President perform capably while in office.

Like, if the economy nosedives into a bad recession (coronavirus-related or not), that could obviously inhibit Trumps' chances in the fall. As much as I want him out of the WH, I don't want to see the country tank economically (with the attendant suffering for working-class folks...you know, like myself, for instance...) in order for that to happen. Or have Trump/Pence mismanage the coronavirus response and lose the election due to what voters think is a lack of competence on their part.

[Terry]

Bloomberg is going to be the one who fucks everything up. Watch him run as an independent and become this year's Ross Perot.

I tend to think if he was going to go that route, he would have done so from the outset and probably much earlier than he ended up doing.

Bloomberg, rightly I think, saw that Biden was going to be a weak candidate. Think Bloomberg also believes Sanders is unelectable. Thus, Bloomberg finally took the plunge he had only been toying with in previous election cycles.

[Nitro Express]

Bloomberg is going to be the one who fucks everything up. Watch him run as an independent and become this year's Ross Perot.

The problem is nobody likes Bloomberg. It’s all about beating Trump. Even Dems who hate Bloomberg would vote for him if he got the nomination because they want Trump out. I don’t think Mike could play spoiler.

[Nitro Express]

That’s what Bloomberg is betting on. He doesn’t view the average voter as all that intelligent. He figures if he saturates everything with money he can buy the nomination. Then everyone votes the party line after that. I hope he gets the nomination. It will be the nastiest political race in a 100 years. It will be very entertaining.

[Nitro Express]

I certainly felt that way throughout most of 2017.

I will say, thus far, jaw-dropping rhetoric aside, Trump has shown a restraint in terms of foreign affairs - specifically a military restraint - that has surprised me. If this restraint owes more to the JCS slow-walking Trump's worst impulses or to just plain luck of circumstance than Trump's judgement I'm not 100% sure of.

I didn't vote for the man, and won't be this fall, but in terms of what I said above...it would be disingenuous not to acknowledge what I did.

Even if I didn't vote for a particular President, I still want to see said President perform capably while in office.

Like, if the economy nosedives into a bad recession (coronavirus-related or not), that could obviously inhibit Trumps' chances in the fall. As much as I want him out of the WH, I don't want to see the country tank economically (with the attendant suffering for working-class folks...you know, like myself, for instance...) in order for that to happen. Or have Trump/Pence mismanage the coronavirus response and lose the election due to what voters think is a lack of competence on their part.

Dubya was a far worse president than Trump. Most our problems can’t be blamed on any one President. At this point the economy is nothing more than a psyops. Actually we would be better off now if we had a depression in 2008. It would have cleaned out the dead wood. Instead we papered over it and grew the credit bubble even larger. It’s all illusion.