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    Biden just announced there will be enough vaccine to vaccinate every US adult by the end of May. And Moderna has agreed to manufacture arch rival Johnson and Johnson's one-shot vaccine in a move reminiscent of WWII circa the Federal Production Act...

    So yes, obviously Biden has made an impact...

    WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden said Tuesday that the U.S. expects to take delivery of enough coronavirus vaccines for all adults by the end of May, two months earlier than anticipated, as his administration announced that drugmaker Merck & Co. will help produce rival Johnson & Johnson’s newly approved shot.

    With the bolstered supply, Biden also announced he would be using the powers of the federal government to direct all states to prioritize vaccinating teachers, and said the federal government would provide the doses directly through its pharmacy program. He challenged states to administer at least one dose of the vaccine to all educators by the end of March as part of his administration's efforts to reopen more schools across the nation...[/url]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Are you drunk again Sesh?

    Fuck no it hasn't gotten better. Did you really think that demented old fuck would improve anything?

    Gas - Skyrocketing
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    EVERYTHING - Skyrocketing

    Well, everything except Nickdsaltpeter's pecker. That thing hasn't skyrocketed in years.
    Von Helen always has my cock on his mind....

    Gas is "skyrocketing" because of the retards that run Texas and designed their fucking shitty, unregulated via loophole power grid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    It must vary by state. Went to CVS to pick up a script and there's a sign at the counter saying they don't have any vaccines. Tried scheduling an appointment for my mom, Walgreens has none within 50 miles and neither does one of the local chains. She ended up calling the county 211 number and is going Sunday at a local fire station.
    Just ignore the politicians. They all stroke their rhubarb too much. The vaccine arrives when it arrives and usually someone nobody knows about and never gets any credit is responsible for it arriving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Biden just announced there will be enough vaccine to vaccinate every US adult by the end of May. And Moderna has agreed to manufacture arch rival Johnson and Johnson's one-shot vaccine in a move reminiscent of WWII circa the Federal Production Act...

    So yes, obviously Biden has made an impact...
    Ha ha ha!

    And you believe him... Nickdgullible.
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    I guess we'll see Von'd'Q'Anon...

    It's three months earlier than his original pitch and highly dependent on the one-shot J&J vaccine. But we beat the Nazis in WWII using Production acts so Nazis could be free to vote for Trump today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Biden just announced there will be enough vaccine to vaccinate every US adult by the end of May. And Moderna has agreed to manufacture arch rival Johnson and Johnson's one-shot vaccine in a move reminiscent of WWII circa the Federal Production Act...

    So yes, obviously Biden has made an impact...
    You do realize the order for those vaccine doses (Moderna & Pfizer) and the money that paid for those orders all occurred before Bidet took office.

    Quite an impact... I expect tomorrow you'll be patting Biden on the back for making the sun rise while he's in office...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You do realize the order for those vaccine doses (Moderna & Pfizer) and the money that paid for those orders all occurred before Bidet took office.

    Quite an impact... I expect tomorrow you'll be patting Biden on the back for making the sun rise while he's in office...
    Zah, have you ever met a Buffaloan with a functional brain? Nickddipshit is no exception. His brain is every bit as non functioning as the dope below.

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    I've only seen one Buffaloon™ in the wild... it was undetermined if it had a functional brain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I've only seen one Buffaloon™ in the wild... it was undetermined if it had a functional brain...
    Was its name Nickdelusional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You do realize the order for those vaccine doses (Moderna & Pfizer) and the money that paid for those orders all occurred before Bidet took office.

    Quite an impact... I expect tomorrow you'll be patting Biden on the back for making the sun rise while he's in office...
    Did I mention either Moderna or Pfizer, old boy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Zah, have you ever met a Buffaloan with a functional brain? Nickddipshit is no exception. His brain is every bit as non functioning as the dope below.

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    Detroit, MI fucktard says wut? Don't you have some minority communities to poison or a Gov. to kidnap?

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    And its Buffalonian, you functionally incompetent window lickers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Was its name Nickdelusional?
    It's name was Nickel... named after the famous old coin. It was at a ranch next door to my brother's place in California. The owner, a crusty 80+ year old rancher told me it was the damnedest beast... it was a male, but self-identified as a cow and would line up with his dairy cows and file into the milking bays every morning...

    I suspect they may be closely related...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    And its Buffalonian, you functionally incompetent window lickers!
    Sounds like something you'd put on a samich...

    Buffaloon™ seems more fitting...

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    Buffaloon is much more fitting for Nickdumbented.

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    Sure Qanon Von! From the doucheknozzle that still beLIEves Trump actually won despite 60 successive court defeats...


    Hey guys, I dont' what this Q'Anon is but they sound very interesting.!

    You fucking mulleted jackass! '

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    It's name was Nickel... named after the famous old coin. It was at a ranch next door to my brother's place in California. The owner, a crusty 80+ year old rancher told me it was the damnedest beast... it was a male, but self-identified as a cow and would line up with his dairy cows and file into the milking bays every morning...

    I suspect they may be closely related...
    I don't think I have any relations with the redneck hill people in your state...

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    But FFS if so at least HOPEFULLY they own a Bills BACKER bar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Ha ha ha!

    And you believe him... Nickdgullible.
    And all vitriol aside, I don't believe that everyone will be vaccinated by June 1st. But I do believe that the pandemic will be broken by mid-summer. And there will never have happened under a 2nd Trump Admin....

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    It's not rocket surgery and this goes for Texas too, if you elect people to government who hate government and think there should not be rules or regulations then there are a couple of obvious outcomes,

    Your government won't work very well in a crisis.

    People who are rich will be less affected by that than people that aren't.

    Whatever your politics I just think it is a really fucking dumb thing to do during a global pandemic.
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    COVID 19 is Darwin at work.

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    The interesting thing when you assess what the "government" is doing in the pandemic. Within the US you have this multi-level government situation and there is is such a wide range of how each state, counties and cities are operating... and the varying results of the actual case statistics the disease is taking.

    Schools for example... there are many states that still have schools closed to in-person learning. My state is not one of those... they closed late March - May last year, but reopened fully in August thru present. Cumulative COVID cases among kids aged 0-17 remains the lowest overall for all age groups. Less than 10% infected and 0% deaths...

    If you follow the guidance on large group congregating, masks, hand washing and distancing... in-person school environments should be the highest risk environments to be in. Yet they have the lowest infection and spread rate of all age demographics. Clearly the disease doesn't like kids. Why are some governments keeping schools closed..?

    I think many people don't understand the difference between government mandates... ie. making and enforcing a regulation or law... and providing guidance for it's citizens to make responsible choices.

    Texas is a good example of this... the state government decided they reached point to halt the temporary mandates which is how their constitutional framework is designed. Mask mandates were never permanent law... the guidance on taking responsible measures to continue to minimize the spread of COVID are left to the citizens and businesses to operate as they choose... To me, that's how good governments work to ensure our personal freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
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    Texas is a good example of this... the state government decided they reached point to halt the temporary mandates which is how their constitutional framework is designed. Mask mandates were never permanent law... the guidance on taking responsible measures to continue to minimize the spread of COVID are left to the citizens and businesses to operate as they choose... To me, that's how good governments work to ensure our personal freedoms.
    I don't disagree with most of what you said here but the Texas full stop on the mask mandate is just idiocy at its finest. They have nearly the lowest per capita vaccination rate if not the lowest and now a bunch of assholes are going to walk around infecting other people because it is their right...

    Left to "businesses"? Have you ever tended bar or waited on a table? They've just thrown their hospitality and retail workers under the bus as now they have to struggle with ignorant assholes with no legal backing. Why not just let people drive drunk then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Why not just let people drive drunk then?
    That's a poor argument, similar to when the ultra-conservatives react to gay marriage with stupidity like "well then we'll have to let people marry their CAR! Or their TOASTER!"
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    If people aren't making responsible decisions to reduce their risk and others at this point... then the mandates weren't helping them make good choices already.

    There's a lot of idiots who can't think for themselves to save their own asses when provided all of the common sense knowledge to do so... fuck em... No amount of government intervention will change them and for the rest of us who can assess risk... I'm thankful government bodies act accordingly.

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    No one wants to see government forcing people to take vaccines.

    Flip side is I have friends on Facebook who will post a bullshit anti vaccine post and when I look to see where they got it from, it's a Russian who is posting the same BS in French, German, English and Russian in 4 separate posts.

    How do we deal with that? This isn't a conspiracy theory I don't know if they are random nuts or funded by Putin or what. I do know it's happening and it stinks.

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    That's a tough call... especially if you support open internet. If they were close friends I'd have a private conversation and try to show them better sources of information. Difficult balance without getting into some sort of cancel culture situation...

    If they are idiot acquaintances... call them out as dumbassses or ignore them.

    There's a lot of state-sponsored bullshit campaigns getting spread by various countries... both country backed and organized criminal enterprises spreading crap and using the pandemic to steal shit from scared people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    If people aren't making responsible decisions to reduce their risk and others at this point... then the mandates weren't helping them make good choices already.
    Em, Texass dropped the mask mandate over the summer the second COVID infections dropped and they went right back up again. It's fucking idiocy. Everything shows that mask wearing and mandates reduces infections. Especially now that you have the new variants...

    There's a lot of idiots who can't think for themselves to save their own asses when provided all of the common sense knowledge to do so... fuck em... No amount of government intervention will change them and for the rest of us who can assess risk... I'm thankful government bodies act accordingly.
    Except those idiots seem to run the gov't in Texas...

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    You have to ask yourself... does the government mandate provide you with some level of comfort? Why are the legal stipulations so damn important to you?

    The wave of cases in November - February all occurred with mask mandates, reduced capacity or fully closed facilities. You can't say that the mandates, restrictions and closures were measurably effective. The data just doesn't support it at all. Infection rates, hospitalizations and deaths all climbed significantly with all of the restrictive controls in full force.

    Why get all concerned with rates falling now that the mandates are being lifted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You have to ask yourself... does the government mandate provide you with some level of comfort?...?
    Yeah, it's called facts and science...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah, it's called facts and science...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You can't say that the mandates, restrictions and closures were measurably effective. The data just doesn't support it at all. Infection rates, hospitalizations and deaths all climbed significantly with all of the restrictive controls in full force.

    Whoah what? Of course restrictions reduce COVID apart from it being logical and common sense that if you reduce the things that stop spread then it spreads less there is tons of evidence all over the world already.

    Your argument ignores how much worse it could be. Every time a country has tried to go against the public health scientists or try and relax things earlier than other countries it has not gone well at all.

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    So...Dwayne Johnson supposedly had the virus. He's got an energy drink coming out. I am no raging fan of the Rock and feel that two Rock movies every year are one too many, and he doesn't need my money. I saw this in a recent interview:

    Once I got out of Covid, I was speaking to my doctor every day, because he wanted every explicit detail of what my symptoms were. I asked him if we had [contracted] a weaker strain. And he said, “No, it’s a stronger strain that we’re all trying to figure out. But without a doubt, it was your commitment to wellness—to build your body as much as you can muscle-wise, and in terms of immunity, health, vitamins, all of the things we try and do on a daily basis. So keep it up.**
    Which reinforces my belief that closing down gyms was a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah, it's called facts and science...
    WTF?

    The facts and science are pretty clear... masks, distancing, hand washing... do reduce the risk of infection to a certain degree.

    The government putting a legal requirement for compliance... doesn't change the risks or the science. It may alter motivation for the weak minded, but based on my observations people are making their own compliance choices regardless of what any government agency mandates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Whoah what? Of course restrictions reduce COVID apart from it being logical and common sense that if you reduce the things that stop spread then it spreads less there is tons of evidence all over the world already.

    Your argument ignores how much worse it could be. Every time a country has tried to go against the public health scientists or try and relax things earlier than other countries it has not gone well at all.
    I didn't mean to imply the restrictions were not effective... just that the results were not remarkable. Statistically it's really difficult to say if the results would be that much worse because the trending doesn't align with the actions in either direction.

    There's only been 1 attempt in the last year to relax restrictions... that's not enough cycles to identify a specific trend to feel confident of the cause and effect. The restrictions are far better than doing nothing... but the dynamics of this disease and spread continue to shift and no experts seem to be able to find a solid theory to project infection rates and align preventative measures. In simple terms... we haven't figured this thing out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    WTF?

    The facts and science are pretty clear... masks, distancing, hand washing... do reduce the risk of infection to a certain degree.

    The government putting a legal requirement for compliance... doesn't change the risks or the science. It may alter motivation for the weak minded, but based on my observations people are making their own compliance choices regardless of what any government agency mandates.
    Then why have any laws at all? If they're only for "the weak minded". I never got the feeling it was the "weak minded" that were typically law abiding or that great minds were akin to sociopathy...
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-08-2021 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    That's a poor argument, similar to when the ultra-conservatives react to gay marriage with stupidity like "well then we'll have to let people marry their CAR! Or their TOASTER!"
    Your analogy of my analogy is much weirder actually. Both drunk driving and not wearing masks in certain circumstances during a pandemic exercise the same reckless indifference to others....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You have to ask yourself... does the government mandate provide you with some level of comfort? Why are the legal stipulations so damn important to you?

    The wave of cases in November - February all occurred with mask mandates, reduced capacity or fully closed facilities. You can't say that the mandates, restrictions and closures were measurably effective. The data just doesn't support it at all. Infection rates, hospitalizations and deaths all climbed significantly with all of the restrictive controls in full force.

    Why get all concerned with rates falling now that the mandates are being lifted?
    All a mask does is help stop the atomization of spit droplets in the air. They help reduce the spread of a virus not eliminate it. I got so tired of a mask being treated as some magical item that would keep people safe. Can you spread and catch COVID19 while wearing a mask? Absolutely. Other things come into play like distancing, washing your hands, not touching your face and keeping your immune system healthy by exercising, eating right and getting enough sleep.

    The main problem with COVID19 is it’s highly contagious. The second problem is the politicians politicized it and the media blew things out of proportion and the public took sides arguing one extreme over the other. All I can say if COVID 19 was Ebola the world would be rid of some very stupid people. Maybe next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    All I can say if COVID 19 was Ebola the world would be rid of some very stupid people. Maybe next time.
    Including Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...ted_Assistance

    One of my neighbors was involved in this operation. They were worried about a Ebola pandemic. He said the US military deployed without getting the politicians involved because they are incompetent and get in the way. If COVID 19 was Ebola the response would have been way different. The whole COVID response was a joke. Don’t wear a mask, wear a mask, wear two masks. What the hell?

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