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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58755

    Originally posted by ZahZoo
    Outdoor masking is unnecessary...
    Generally, I would agree. If I'm just out walking around the neighborhood, I never wear a mask, and didn't do so even before I was vaccinated. But in the middle of a big crowd, being outdoors really isn't going to make that much of a difference. Think of it like cigarette smoke or a nasty fart. Yeah, either one is going to be slightly less lethal outdoors, but it's still airborne and still gets in your respiratory system. Same thing with airborne Covid, except (unlike the other two toxic fumes) you might not even realize you're breathing it in.

    So I'm all for going outdoors. Getting some sun (we actually had a summer here, for once) Exercising in whatever way you want, etc. But even vaccinated, I'm not really planning to spend a lot of time in big crowds any time soon.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35155

      I'm playing my first gig since COVID in 3 weeks time. 80 people in the audience but it's a not a huge room and we have a horn section.

      I better send all the master passwords to another webmaster before then I guess.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49125

        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        ...local bar staff shortage killed Saturday and friends parents getting it cancelled Sunday.
        So you have that problem too....

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35155

          Without sounding like a total dick there is a tiny part of me that is slightly suspicious that it's possible there are a few people claiming to have to self isolate who maybe just want to lie in the sun at the moment.

          Probably just a coincidence.

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          • ZahZoo
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Jan 2004
            • 8961

            Originally posted by FORD
            Generally, I would agree. If I'm just out walking around the neighborhood, I never wear a mask, and didn't do so even before I was vaccinated. But in the middle of a big crowd, being outdoors really isn't going to make that much of a difference. Think of it like cigarette smoke or a nasty fart. Yeah, either one is going to be slightly less lethal outdoors, but it's still airborne and still gets in your respiratory system. Same thing with airborne Covid, except (unlike the other two toxic fumes) you might not even realize you're breathing it in.

            So I'm all for going outdoors. Getting some sun (we actually had a summer here, for once) Exercising in whatever way you want, etc. But even vaccinated, I'm not really planning to spend a lot of time in big crowds any time soon.
            Outdoors isn't 100% safe... but the air dispersement even with little to no noticeable breeze reduces the risk of transmission significantly... 70-90% compared to indoor activities. Clearly it's better to avoid packed crowds with less than a few feet between people. But beyond that you should get out and enjoy life as much as you can...
            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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            • twonabomber
              formerly F A T
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 11201

              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              Without sounding like a total dick there is a tiny part of me that is slightly suspicious that it's possible there are a few people claiming to have to self isolate who maybe just want to lie in the sun at the moment.

              Probably just a coincidence.
              Well, duh. I almost played that card the other day.
              Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16337

                I have just been informed that a girl I went to high school with who later became a red-pilled right-wing Nazi/Q assfucker and anti-vaxer died from COVID yesterday. I do not feel a shred of empathy for her or her family.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58755

                  This fucking idiot also just died. How's your FreeDumb from Mask Tyranny working now, Caleb?? Maybe he can debate tyranny in Hell now with Hitler & Stalin?

                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58755

                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58755

                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58755

                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • twonabomber
                          formerly F A T
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11201

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          You voted for him, hippie.
                          Unfortunately, I did. Hold your nose and pull the lever. The clown the Dems ran was awful.

                          I'm not sure DeWine will run again. Supposedly he got his primary opponent to drop out of the race and take the lieutenant governor spot with the premise that DeWine would only serve one term and step aside. The guy's close to 120 years old, time to GTFO anyways. If DeWine does run again I think he's gonna take a lot of shit for the lockdowns etc.
                          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                          • ZahZoo
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8961

                            It's becoming obvious that the pandemic has exceeded the typical timeframe for short measures that are meant to protect people during catastrophic events.

                            We're in uncharted territory now... masking, closures, etc. are no longer accepted options, but still capable of helping... plus were implemented and communicated so poorly it undermined public trust in all forms of leadership in one way or another.

                            Vaccinations and natural immunity aren't containing this effectively. Something is going to have to change to get this thing in a manageable state...
                            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35155

                              Originally posted by ZahZoo
                              Vaccinations and natural immunity aren't containing this effectively. Something is going to have to change to get this thing in a manageable state...
                              Vaccinations and masks can't contain this effectively when literally half the people aren't joining in.

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                              • ZahZoo
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 8961

                                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                                Vaccinations and masks can't contain this effectively when literally half the people aren't joining in.
                                That's really crystal clear...

                                Beyond the rampant denial factors still prevalent... I believe the duration is an overriding key factor now. People aren't will to stop living, traveling and interacting socially for this long of a time frame.

                                All the previous shut downs, counter-measures and ineffective travel restrictions for over a year and half have caused a lot of people to just give up on doing much of the recommended preventative measures. It doesn't help when the guidance keeps changing for less than scientific reasons, as well.
                                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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