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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Texas, Florida, South Dakota...

    All 50 states and territories are receiving allocations managed by the Federal task force and HHS. From there it's in state control and the feds aren't managing that. The state level is where the distribution is having the most issues... that's on their governors and dept of health management.
    So 4.6, 5.2, and 6.1% constitutes "good"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Damn dude... all that foul mouthed bullshit doesn't help convey point, just makes you come off as a fool.

    Your own comment makes my point... Erie county cancelled appointments because... your state isn't allocating/delivering effectively or they signed up more arms than they had needles. That's not a Biden or Trump problem that's a Governor Cuomo and Walgreens/CVS problem or whoever is poking arms locally.
    Those are the only words Von Hick understands. He's a slow and a republican't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Damn dude... all that foul mouthed bullshit doesn't help convey point, just makes you come off as a fool.

    Your own comment makes my point... Erie county cancelled appointments because... your state isn't allocating/delivering effectively or they signed up more arms than they had needles. That's not a Biden or Trump problem that's a Governor Cuomo and Walgreens/CVS problem or whoever is poking arms locally.
    They don't have the doses to "allocate" and NY is still doing better or about the same as two states you mentioned with your healthcare expertise...

    You can't allocated something in short supply because the logistics are fucked to begin with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Von Helen, the dumb fucking simpleton hick...
    I thought it was Von Karen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    So 4.6, 5.2, and 6.1% constitutes "good"?
    Since December 14th... not quite 5 weeks. Looking at the numbers and the logistical challenges. It's not terrible.

    Where are those percentages from? Your state is showing ranked 17 based on doses administered.

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...inistered.html

    New York
    Doses distributed to state: 2,213,975
    Doses administered: 1,116,441
    Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 50.43

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    'Complete incompetence': Biden officials fume after Trump leaves them 'nonexistent' vaccine plan - link

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Proven to be FAKE NEWS!
    Proven.
    Ok, I'll bite.
    Can you provide any link that details the Vaccine Plan that Trump left for Biden.
    I'm rather lazy but surely you can find a few sites that feature such a Big, Beautiful Plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfish View Post
    'Complete incompetence': Biden officials fume after Trump leaves them 'nonexistent' vaccine plan - link



    Proven.
    Ok, I'll bite.
    Can you provide any link that details the Vaccine Plan that Trump left for Biden.
    I'm rather lazy but surely you can find a few sites that feature such a Big, Beautiful Plan.
    Even Fauci came out and said it was a bullshit report that Trump left them nothing.

    Do you and Nickdouchefresh get your news from the same source?

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    Who deleted one of my posts, and why?

    Nevermind, I see now but the last page didn't load...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    I thought it was Von Karen...
    I thought it was QaVon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Even Fauci came out and said it was a bullshit report that Trump left them nothing.

    Do you and Nickdouchefresh get your news from the same source?
    I never said that, dumbshit. Isn't your night to feltch Ted Nugent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Even Fauci
    Trump made you say 'Even'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Even Fauci came out and said it was a bullshit report that Trump left them nothing.

    Do you and Nickdouchefresh get your news from the same source?
    I admitted that I'm lazy and asked you to provide a link.
    Assume Nick I get our news from the same source.
    Post a link that details the BIG, Beautiful Vaccine Plan that Trump left for Biden.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfish View Post
    I admitted that I'm lazy and asked you to provide a link.
    Assume Nick I get our news from the same source.
    Post a link that details the BIG, Beautiful Vaccine Plan that Trump left for Biden.
    Thank you.
    Geez y'all are so fucking lazy... clearly you read, listen or watch the news. If you are going to discuss something at least take some time and read the actual real information available. Facts provided by the people who are actually managing and doing what is getting done in the real world not a 90 second sound bite. If you rely on "news" sources no matter which source you won't get the full facts and story...

    This has a lot of information and probably would take 20-30 minutes to read... but if the way the federal government is handling the Covid crisis interests you, at least take a few minutes and read the official record of what's been done and who did it... and the "PLAN" that Biden inherited. The real fucking PLAN... not CNN's fake news.

    You've heard of Operation Warp Speed, right? It's not a fictional movie... it's a real US federal government program.

    https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/expl...y%20known%20as
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    If you don't feel comfortable reading the Distribution section... here's some pictures for people like Nickdelusional that are easy to understand...

    https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/fi...on-process.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    If you don't feel comfortable reading the Distribution section... here's some pictures for people like Nickdelusional that are easy to understand...

    https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/fi...on-process.pdf
    I don't need pictures, old man. I'll leave those for you and your Fox/NewsMax/Psychorightwing shit news you watch with the rest of geRIiatric AmeriKa©....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Geez y'all are so fucking lazy...
    Seeing as how I admitted as much, twice, I'll still give you a point for that.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    You've heard of Operation Warp Speed, right? It's not a fictional movie... it's a real US federal government program.
    The very first line reads:

    "Operation Warp Speed's goal is to produce and deliver 300 million doses of
    safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021,..."

    My goal is to have 20 million dollars by next Saturday. That is hardly a plan.

    How will the goal be accomplished?
    "By investing in and coordinating countermeasure development, OWS will allow
    countermeasures such as a vaccine to be delivered to patients more rapidly while
    adhering to standards for safety and efficacy."

    Well, when you put it like that...

    The NY Times Jan. 21, 2021 reports - link:

    "As of Wednesday, nearly 36 million doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines
    had been distributed to state and local governments. However, only about 16.5
    million shots had been administered to patients."

    Three weeks into Jan. and OWS delivered 36 million of their "initial doses".
    With no set deadline for them to roll out the remaining 264 million doses, that's
    really quite open ended.

    So, yeah, it is a real program but clearly Team Trump & Team Biden (and you &
    I perhaps) disagree on whether it qualifies as a "plan".

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    It's not clear what you are looking for or maybe we're talking about two completely different things called a "plan". I manage programs for a living... they are all born from a plan.

    A rather monumental "plan" resulted in the current program and you do recognize it's existence... plus as you stated 36 million doses have been delivered. That clearly took a "plan" to get to that result. The administering of those doses are part of over 50 state and territories "plans" managed by each governor and state programs. Many of those plans are not performing effectively... can't blame Washington for that. The states own it.

    The remaining 264 million doses you referenced are part of the plan... There are deadlines and schedules for the manufacturing of the vaccine, all the components and also all the syringes, needles, bottles, packaging, etc. plus distribution... all rolling along to a plan. It takes time to make hundreds of millions of things...

    What changed January 20th was a different ass in the chair in the oval office... plus several other different asses in chairs of congress.

    What didn't change... the vaccine plan and all the people working to make and deliver it. Check your state Vaccine reporting... you'll see the "plan" provided more doses. Our state received 15,000 more in the last 48 hours... due to the "plan".

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    Beijing Bidet won't do anymore for Coronavirus than Trump did.

    Nickdelusional will never get Covid, because he as his head in his ass. He's more likely to die from methane poisoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Beijing Bidet won't do anymore for Coronavirus than Trump did.
    I don't believe this was part of his campaign. And if the borders are opened and we allow those who aren't vaccinated or vetted into the country, Biden can shove his 100 day mask challenge up his ass sideways with no lube.

    Biden says nothing can change the trajectory of the Covid pandemic over the next several months

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/bide...tCuHBY4sBWANMM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Beijing Bidet won't do anymore for Coronavirus than Trump did.

    Nickdelusional will never get Covid, because he as his head in his ass. He's more likely to die from methane poisoning.
    Like you got AIDS from the penises in your buttholes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    I don't believe this was part of his campaign. And if the borders are opened and we allow those who aren't vaccinated or vetted into the country, Biden can shove his 100 day mask challenge up his ass sideways with no lube.

    Biden says nothing can change the trajectory of the Covid pandemic over the next several months

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/bide...tCuHBY4sBWANMM
    WTF said anything about "opening borders"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    WTF said anything about "opening borders"?
    Oh geez... thousands of central Americans heard Biden's plan for open borders, packed their bags and are heading this way. But you didn't..?

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    This opening border letting COVID people in looks like it's just a fear story.

    Just like the fake caravan story from a couple of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Oh geez... thousands of central Americans heard Biden's plan for open borders, packed their bags and are heading this way. But you didn't..?
    Well I don't watch news outlets that obsess over hordes of lettuce pickers. But now that you mention it, oh, you mean like the "caravan" that is coming from South 'Merica like the one that came during the Trump era?

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    Fox called it the 'invading horde' and 'a full-scale invasion by a hostile force' that just coincidentally appeared around the time of the 2018 election.

    The cool thing is that the 'leftest highly organized, very elaborate sophisticated operation' managed to somehow disappear just after the election so maybe this one will too...


    As the great man said

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    Also talking of which, I don't know much about illegal immigration in the US, but looking at the graphs seems to me that it was Obama and Biden that started to get it under control from 2008 onwards when they took over from W and for all his talk Trump has merely kept the numbers around the same as they had.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    This opening border letting COVID people in looks like it's just a fear story.

    Just like the fake caravan story from a couple of years ago.
    Covid is just a recent element added to a decades long problem. Definitely not a driving factor at the core of the issue.

    Human trafficking and continuous flow of thousands of undocumented people per year crossing our southern border is a very real thing and a problem that keeps getting kicked down the road for decades.

    It's not the people's fault for wanting a better life than what they can get at home, but there has to be a reasonable program and controls to enable that migration. Right now it's a dangerous mess run by the cartels and the cost to Americans continues to rise.

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    Locally they have removed most restrictions that were the Orange/Yellow Zones...

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    It seems possible that improving the places where they live at the moment would stop the excess of migrants from South America and be a lot cheaper for the US. That way you only get the the immigrants who really want to rather than the ones who are being forced to.

    The other option to prevent high immigration rates is the current UK approach whereby you destroy your economy so no one wants to come any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post

    The other option to prevent high immigration rates is the current UK approach whereby you destroy your economy so no one wants to come any more.
    Exactly what Bidet will do!

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    All of those South/Central American countries have the resources to improve their own economies and quality of life for their citizens. They have the desire... and plenty of good examples of how to do so around the globe and in their own neighboring countries.

    They have many options and a simple choice... work hard and make their own countries/lives better or take the lazy road north to cash in on someone else's success.

    Frankly, those other countries don't want us to come in and help them... they'll only hate our interference and despise our arrogance that we can tell them how to run their lives.

    Nope... enough already. Home improvement is expensive and takes a lot of dedication, work and time investment. They can go remodel their own bathrooms as far as I'm concerned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    Geez y'all are so fucking lazy... clearly you read, listen or watch the news. If you are going to discuss something at least take some time and read the actual real information available. Facts provided by the people who are actually managing and doing what is getting done in the real world not a 90 second sound bite. If you rely on "news" sources no matter which source you won't get the full facts and story...

    This has a lot of information and probably would take 20-30 minutes to read... but if the way the federal government is handling the Covid crisis interests you, at least take a few minutes and read the official record of what's been done and who did it... and the "PLAN" that Biden inherited. The real fucking PLAN... not CNN's fake news.

    You've heard of Operation Warp Speed, right? It's not a fictional movie... it's a real US federal government program.

    https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/expl...y%20known%20as


    Has federal government become more involved in vaccine roll-out post Trump?

    Have things improved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Has federal government become more involved in vaccine roll-out post Trump?

    Have things improved?
    Are you drunk again Sesh?

    Fuck no it hasn't gotten better. Did you really think that demented old fuck would improve anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZahZoo View Post
    All of those South/Central American countries have the resources to improve their own economies and quality of life for their citizens. They have the desire... and plenty of good examples of how to do so around the globe and in their own neighboring countries.

    They have many options and a simple choice... work hard and make their own countries/lives better or take the lazy road north to cash in on someone else's success.

    Frankly, those other countries don't want us to come in and help them... they'll only hate our interference and despise our arrogance that we can tell them how to run their lives.

    Nope... enough already. Home improvement is expensive and takes a lot of dedication, work and time investment. They can go remodel their own bathrooms as far as I'm concerned...
    We lived in South America in the mid 70ís. I see the US becoming more and more like the corrupt countries there than they are like we used to be. Basically the military runs things. Maybe thatís where we are headed. A general usually takes over after the political system goes to shit. Everything runs with bribes. Dissidents are disappeared. You watch your Pís and Qís and exist. Most the country lives in poverty and a few live very well on top. What we achieved in the US is very rare. Most the world is under someoneís thumb and itís been that way for most of human history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Has federal government become more involved in vaccine roll-out post Trump?

    Have things improved?
    No sign of any change in federal government involvement at all. Manufacturing, shipping and distribution is all functioning exactly as it was from Operation Warp Speed prior to Biden taking office. One minor change was the FDA approved Moderna to up the doses per vile from 6 - 10.

    The only measurable thing I've seen different in the federal program is they expanded pharmacy companies that can distribute the vaccine. CVS/Walgreens wasn't cutting it. They added Walmart and that's showing some improvement, especially in rural areas and long term care facilities... love or hate Walmart they have a huge, successful logistics and distribution network rivaled only by Amazon.

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    It must vary by state. Went to CVS to pick up a script and there's a sign at the counter saying they don't have any vaccines. Tried scheduling an appointment for my mom, Walgreens has none within 50 miles and neither does one of the local chains. She ended up calling the county 211 number and is going Sunday at a local fire station.

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