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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49125

    #61
    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    You can lose 80,000 people in a bad flu season. Yeah 200,000 is Dr. Birxt estimate but you have as many opinions on this as you have doctors. Also it’s being politicized. There are people who would love to have this shutdown cause an economic downturn.
    No douche, here's actual science and statistics. 60K dead would be the worst case scenario flu season:

    As it does for the numbers of flu cases, doctor’s visits and hospitalizations, CDC also estimates deaths in the United States using mathematical modeling. CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2013-2014, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013). Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate included respiratory or circulatory causes. For more information, see Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States and CDC’s Disease Burden of Influenza page.


    And 200,000 would be after shuttering three quarters of the population in social distancing, with no vaccine available. How many people would die from the flu if we did that for influenza?..
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-31-2020, 08:19 PM.

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35153

      #62
      Originally posted by private parts
      For a second I thought you were talking about Trump, then realized this is a DLR forum.
      Hahaha

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35153

        #63
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        You can lose 80,000 people in a bad flu season. Yeah 200,000 is Dr. Birxt estimate but you have as many opinions on this as you have doctors. Also it’s being politicized. There are people who would love to have this shutdown cause an economic downturn.
        Crazy talk.

        For years now you have been saying how all politicians are the same and it doesn't matter if you have a completely incompetent narcissistic crazy liar as your president.

        Sorry but you are now being proved completely wrong. This is what happens when you embrace ignorance, where is your fucking 10 years at medical school? 5 minutes in a social media bubble and 20 minutes of Fox News does not make your opinion as valid as Dr. Birxt. What is wrong with you people?

        The US had got her best scientists and clinicians to work out a plan to deal with future pandemics and Trump ignored all of it completely relying on hunches and bullshit. We all pay now. When pandemics break out you can't get rid of them until they are gone from all countries. Until your president and that nightmare in Brazil gets with the game or even better is incapacitated with it themselves the whole world is in lock down.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35153

          #64
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh

          And 200,000 would be after shuttering three quarters of the population in social distancing, with no vaccine available. How many people would die from the flu if we did that for influenza?..
          To put that in proportion that's like a Benghazi every day for about 138 years...

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58755

            #65
            Chimp & Cheney killed just under 3000 on 9/11. Another 2000 or so in New Orleans, and I forget what the last count was, but let's say a nice round 10,000 in their idiotic wars (just the US numbers)

            15,000 Americans dead, for no good reason. Hard to imagine anybody could have ever done worse than that.... but here we are.
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • ZahZoo
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 8961

              #66
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              I hate to say it but I’m having a blast during this. The ski resorts are closed to the public but being on the volunteer ski patrol we have been skiing slopes covered in some of the best snowfall of the year with nobody on then. Also gas for the snowmobile is dirt cheap.

              Funny. I talked to a friend in Park City, Utah and asked how is it down there. He said all the church’s are closed but the liquor stores are open. It’s going pretty good.
              This past weekend several of the most popular state parks here in Arkansas saw record number of visitors and one had to open overflow parking... So many people in fact that social distancing was nearly impossible on trails and common areas.

              What was alarming was the number of out of state license plates spotted in the parking areas.

              Sadly, because people won't stay home the state is considering closing all the parks and recreation areas to get people to stop traveling here.
              "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11201

                #67
                Going to be warm here Friday and Saturday. I'm riding somewhere. Not the Towpath though, Cuyahoga River overflowed the other day and flooded a lot of the trails in the national park.
                Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58755

                  #68
                  Well, that irrational toilet paper shortage just got a little worse......

                  HUTCHINS, Texas (AP) — A tractor-trailer hauling toilet paper crashed and caught fire near Dallas early Wednesday, spilling the hot commodity all over an interstate.

                  The fire shut down westbound lanes of Interstate 20 near Interstate 45 in Hutchins, the Texas Department of Transportation said.

                  The driver of the truck is OK, officials said.

                  The toilet paper appeared to be large rolls typically used in stores, restaurants and other businesses. Texas Department of Transportation officials said the load of toilet paper “burned extensively,” according to Dallas TV station WFAA.

                  Toilet paper has been in high demand amid the coronavirus pandemic. Producers ramped up production and shipping operations to resupply stores wiped out by consumers buying toilet paper and paper towels in bulk.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • ZahZoo
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8961

                    #69
                    State Parks are going to be closed in Arkansas. Governor has advised the Sec of Interior to close Buffalo National park as well due to record number of out of state visitors this last week.

                    Good news... alcohol sales were up 55% in the last 2 weeks!! Bad news... I still live in a dry county!!
                    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11957

                      #70
                      Florida Governor today (finally) issued a statewide stay-at-home alert for all non-essential designated workers.

                      Am watching the Miami area cases starting to spike...
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58755

                        #71
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • twonabomber
                          formerly F A T
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11201

                          #72
                          A couple guys at work think there is more of a lockdown coming in the state. DeWine is supposed to make another announcement today. And a couple more co-workers think that with 35 people on the floor at once, it's inevitable that someone has the virus and more will get it.

                          Far as I know, the FDA would consider us essential. Work is prepared to pay us for 14 days in the event of a closure. We work tonight and then Mon-Thurs next week, then off for a week. If we did get shut down, it would be nice to have it after our day shifts next week. Three weeks off and nothing to do!

                          Our $3 shift premium got extended until the 20th. I joked that I'd spend it on a single mother...she texted yesterday. Here we go...
                          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                          • ZahZoo
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8961

                            #73
                            I expect more stay at home/shelter in place orders coming...

                            The concerning part is that testing is finally starting to become widely available in many areas... Arkansas just report 900 tested in the last 24 hours. So the number will be jumping just on the basis of more people getting tested. Given the incubation rate averages 5 days to first symptoms and up to 14 days... we're just now seeing results for folks that have been contagious since mid-March. Unsettling...
                            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35153

                              #74
                              Note the age...

                              Fountains of Wayne’s Adam Schlesinger Dead at 52 From Coronavirus



                              Adam Schlesinger, co-founder of the New Jersey power-pop group Fountains of Wayne and Emmy- and Grammy-winning songwriter for film, television, and theater, died Wednesday from complications related to COVID-19. He was 52.

                              Schelsinger’s lawyer, Josh Grier, confirmed the musician’s death to Rolling Stone. Schlesinger was hospitalized in March and tested positive for the coronavirus. At the time, he was placed on a ventilator and heavily sedated.

                              Schlesinger had one of the most unique and busiest careers in pop. With Fountains of Wayne — a group that blended power-pop delight with indie and alt-rock sensibilities — he released five albums between 1996 and 2011. During the same period, he released six albums with his other group, Ivy, all the while building a portfolio of TV and film music. His first hit came in 1996, but it was a song engineered to sound like it was actually from the Sixties: “That Thing You Do.” The track served as the sole hit for the Wonders, the fake band at the center of Tom Hanks’ film That Thing You Do!; in real life, the track charted well and earned Schlesinger an Oscar nomination for Best Original Song.


                              “There would be no Playtone without Adam Schlesinger, without his That Thing You Do!” Tom Hanks wrote. “He was a One-der. Lost him to Covid-19. Terribly sad today.”

                              Seven years later, Schlesinger and Fountains of Wayne would notch their own career-defining hit, “Stacy’s Mom.”





                              More at https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...avirus-975786/


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                              • private parts
                                Sniper
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 925

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                                It depends on age group, ask Italy...

                                Are there really jerkoffs running around still telling us this is just a cold or flu?

                                The best case scenario is that there are going to be 200,000 dead Americans. How many died of Ebola?..
                                Don't know about Ebola but the CDC says 12k died in the US from 2009 H1N1. This article suggests it was 10 times that.

                                A fresh analysis finds that the death toll from the H1N1 swine flu in 2009-10 was severely underestimated. The Americas were hit much harder than Europe or Australia. And the deaths occurred in a much younger population than normally affected by the flu.
                                sigpic" You ever notice when I scream I sound like Mr. Bill on acid" DLR

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