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    Lil' Kim AWOL? Rumored to be in "grave danger" after surgery.



    CNN - The US is monitoring intelligence that suggests North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery, according to a US official with direct knowledge.
    A second source familiar with the intelligence told CNN that the US has been closely monitoring reports on Kim's health.
    Kim recently missed the celebration of his grandfather's birthday on April 15, which raised speculation about his well-being. He had been seen four days before that at a government meeting.
    Another US official told CNN Monday that the concerns about Kim's health are credible but the severity is hard to assess.

    National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien said the US is "keeping a close eye" on reports about Kim's health.
    "We're monitoring these reports very closely," O'Brien said during an interview with Fox News Tuesday. "As you know, North Korea is a very closed society," he said.
    Later on Tuesday, a US defense official said that the US military assessment is that while they are examining reports regarding Kim's poor health, the evidence at this point does not suggest he is incapacitated.

    Daily NK, an online newspaper based in South Korea that focuses on North Korea, reports that Kim reportedly received a cardiovascular system procedure on April 12.
    Kim received the cardiovascular system procedure because of "excessive smoking, obesity, and overwork," according to the news site, and is now receiving treatment in a villa in Hyangsan County following his procedure.

    After assessing that Kim's condition had improved, most of the medical team treating him returned to Pyongyang on April 19 and only part of them remained to oversee his recovery situation, according to the news site. CNN is unable to independently confirm the report.

    A South Korean source told CNN Monday that the country's top leaders are very much aware of reports about Kim's health status but cannot independently verify details published by Daily NK. The source acknowledged that Kim's issues related to weight and smoking are well known but made clear they are waiting for more information.
    South Korea's Presidential Blue House said in a statement provided to reporters that they have nothing to confirm on reports about Kim's health and that "no unusual signs" have been detected inside North Korea.

    South Korea's Unification Ministry and Defense Ministry have given a "no comment."
    The National Security Council and Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment when reached by CNN on Monday. CNN has also reached out to the CIA and the State Department for comment.

    In the meantime, US officials have been reaching out to North Korean experts -- particularly those who have studied the Kim regime -- to talk about contingency planning, a third source familiar with the communications told CNN.

    Still, the situation remains murky as gathering intelligence out of North Korea is notoriously difficult -- one of the most challenging targets for US intelligence.
    North Korea tightly controls any information surrounding its leader, who is treated almost like a deity within the country. His absences from official state media often spark speculation and rumors about his health. North Korea has no free press and is often a black hole when it comes to the country's leadership. Analysts are heavily reliant on scanning state media dispatches and watching propaganda videos for any semblance of a clue.

    Kim last appeared in North Korean state media on April 11. April 15 -- North Korea's most important holiday, the anniversary of the birth of the country's founding father, Kim Il Sung -- came and went without any official mention of Kim Jong Un's movements.

    Experts are unsure of what to make of Kim's absence from any festivities celebrating his grandfather. When North Korean leaders have not shown up to these important celebrations in the past, it has portended major developments. But it has also turned out to be nothing.

    "There have been a number of recent rumors about Kim's health (smoking, heart, and brain). If Kim is hospitalized, it would explain why he wasn't present on the important April 15th celebrations," said Bruce Klingner, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation and former CIA deputy division chief for North Korea. "But, over the years, there have been a number of false health rumors about Kim Jong-un or his father. We'll have to wait and see."

    Kim Jong Il's absence from a parade celebrating North Korea's 60th anniversary in 2008 was followed by rumblings that he was in poor health. It was later revealed he had a stroke, after which his health continued to decline until his death in 2011.

    Kim Jong Un disappeared from the public eye for more than a month in 2014, which also prompted speculation about his health. He returned sporting a cane, and days later South Korean intelligence said that he had a cyst removed from his ankle.

    "It's easy to be wrong on this one," said John Delury, a professor of international relations at Yonsei University in Seoul.

    Still, with concerns about Kim's health mounting, the state of US-South Korean relations has US officials worried, sources tell CNN.

    On Monday, President Donald Trump said the two countries have a "great relationship," but added he wants them to pay more for the US presence in the country. The two countries have missed multiple deadlines for those negotiations. And now in-person negotiations are hindered because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    This breaking story has been updated with additional reporting.

    CNN's Ryan Browne, Betsy Klein, Alex Marquardt, and Vivian Salama contributed to this story.
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    I think the South Koreans have come out and said there probably was a procedure but there are no major issues with his health. They didn't say however whether or not if others might be vying for power in say, the military...
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    ding dong the jong is dead?

    Media in Japan are saying he's either dead or in a vegetative state after botched surgery. They claim the source is a member of an elite Chinese medical team sent to North Korea...

    Link Report: Kim Jong Un in 'vegetative state' after stent procedure gone wrong
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    I'm reading elsewhere that the surgeon had "shaky hands". Reports that the Dr's name was Ma Ree Ann could not be confirmed.......



    Of course, if this is true, the surgeon was probably pronounced dead before Lil Kim himself was.

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    The only real media outlet saying anything is Reuters: Exclusive: China sent team including medical experts to advise on North Korea’s Kim

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    Kim Jong Un decided to send Donald Trump a letter in his own handwriting to let him know he was still alive.


    Trump opened the letter which appeared to contain a single-line coded message:

    370HSSV - 0773H

    Trump was baffled, so he emailed it to the his aides, who had no clue either, so they sent it to the FBI

    No one could solve it at FBI, so it went to the CIA. With no clue as to its meaning, FBI finally asked MSS (Ministry of State Security) in China for help.

    Within a few seconds MSS cabled back with this reply:

    "Tell The President he's holding the message upside down."

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    Kim has resurfaced but I think there is little doubt something is seriously wrong with him - well did anyone ever really doubt that But I mean health wise...

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