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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Who the fuck knows. I've never seen either...
    Mikes hot mustard sauce is great. Very hot but perfect if you cut it with some mayo. You can get it on Amazon now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    DLR was the primary composer?

    I'd tend to think he, along with Templeman, was one of the primary arrangers.

    I'd agree that the songs (obviously) don't compose themselves solely on paper and then magically appear on tape, and far as I can remember I didn't allude to that being the case.

    I'd agree in assuming that Al and Mike both put in their fair share of rehearsal time, both during the album pre-production process and the tour rehearsals. Wasn't there myself, but that seems logical. Far as I'm concerned, it took all four members to make CVH work, so it would seem only fitting that all four got writing credits.
    Dave writes the lyrics himself. In the music business lyrics are worth a lot. Dave is great at writing lyrics in fact he could make a good living doing just that. Writing lyrics is Dave’s biggest talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    To be sure, people love dirt. Can't say I'm above schadenfreude, either. Whatever this guy's motivations - and I'd tend to think you are correct with the profit/revenge angle - I can't say for myself, as a fan of Ed's playing and what it meant to me, that I'd particularly want an in-depth look at the years 2000 through 2006 re: EVH. Just having seen the pics of him during that period and the clips of the 2004 tour the first time around was depressing enough, partly because Ed was spiraling downward and seemingly not giving a shit about it, and partly (and selfishly on my part, I'll freely admit) because the whole period of 1997 through 2007 was a wasted decade where Ed could have been working with Dave and possibly coming up with stuff I actually wanted to hear vs. an album with Cherone, a tour with Cherone, some new Van Hagar tracks, a tour with Hagar and some EVH Trans-Trem Super Sustainer guitar wanking for a porn flick.

    But, all of that is spilt milk under the bridge. I eventually got the tour(s) with Dave I had wanted to see for ages, and a Van Halen album with Dave. Both of which amounted to an at times good coda to the CVH era. Wasn't the CVH reunion I wanted to see, and ADKOT was hardly a killer Van Halen album from start-to-finish, but you take what you can get, I suppose. Or not if it doesn't move you.
    Ed is an eccentric artist with a drinking and drug problem. He’s had problems for a long long time. He just went off the deep end when Valerie left him and I give her credit staying with him as long as she did. You are not really dealing with a guy who is capable of producing albums and tours on a steady basis. He’s kind of mind fucked and not with reality and he holes up in that studio where he rules the world and everything is in his terms. Not the best productive situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
    The greedy little manager is clearly a woman scorned. If you read his book, did you notice that several times he states "I never stole any money" (paraphrase), and yet he never said anything about being accused by anyone of anything illicit.
    What pages?

    Al is a bona fide prick, but maybe there is a reason he took the manager to the accountant for an interrogation, soon after which he was fired.

    I wasn't there, and you weren't there. Don't take his word at face value.

    He is a woman scorned.
    Al was a full blown drunk as well as coke user, he was probably blowing the money he was concerned about himself...

    Furthermore, in Sammy's book, he states that the brothers stripped MA of his royalties. Well if MA was stripped of royalties in 1984, how did he get stripped again after Ed Leffler died?

    Inconsistencies all around.
    Sam is full of shit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby's On Fire View Post
    Regarding writing credits:

    Do the drum parts compose themselves? No, it was Alex.

    And what about the rehearsal efforts? The songs don't compose themselves just on paper and then magically appear on tape.
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    How many song credits did Keith Moon or John Bonham have?

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    Bonzo actually had credits on every Zeppelin album. But not on every song. As one might expect, his name usually ends up on the songs where the drums were an important part of the song's foundation. (or in other words, Moby Dick & D'yer Maker, yes. Going to California, no.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Bonzo actually had credits on every Zeppelin album. But not on every song. As one might expect, his name usually ends up on the songs where the drums were an important part of the song's foundation. (or in other words, Moby Dick & D'yer Maker, yes. Going to California, no.)
    Drummers get screwed usually. They physically work the hardest. They are the foundation the rest of the band is built on. But they get screwed because they usually don’t write the music or the lyrics. Niel Peart was the smart drummer. He wrote all the lyrics and he gets the publishing royalties.

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    It's a damn good thing Neil was a lyricist. Rush's first album was pretty damn good, musically speaking. But the lyrics were so goddamned generic, Hagar could have written them. John Rutsey getting diabetes (and being unable to tour) was the best thing that ever happened to that band. Other than that, I doubt they would have ever been known outside of Canada (and a few places south of the border who listened to Hoser FM radio on occasion like I did). And probably about as relevant now as April Wine or the Headpins.

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    Yeah. I agree. Bands are like cooking. One ingredient can make the difference between something fabulous or something not that great. Also many bands are good for an album or two but they can’t maintain. They shoot a huge load and they can’t get it back up.

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    Explosion in the Canyon would be a good name for a porno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro Express View Post
    Explosion in the Canyon would be a good name for a porno.
    There was a dvd compilation of Christy Canyon clips titled Cummin' Round The Canyon...perhaps Explosion In The Canyon could be a follow-up.
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    I did enjoy the parts where Ed bashes sam.
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