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    Ford Bronco Returns in 2021

    Though at least it's a more authentic update of the original 70's Bronco design than the oversized behemoth version of the 1980s.




    I could actually see myself driving one of these... but not that goddamned ugly mustard yellow color....
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    I have no objection to people who need these for work or leisure but I find it annoying how many you see on the school run and in our cities. 21 mpg in 2021 isn't good enough and also SUVs don't crumple so they are more likely to kill people in the other vehicle in a crash.

    Admittedly some of the highways are so bad in the US you need an SUV.
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    meh.

    I bought a Gladiator Rubicon a month ago.
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    16mpg!

    FFS man!!

    Environmentally you do get a bit of a pass for not having kids...

    Kids and dogs are worse than SUVs.

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    All I have are V6 and V8 vehicles. All rear wheel or 4 wheel drive, no front wheel drive stuff.

    I'm up to seven...five Jeeps and two Chryslers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    16mpg!

    FFS man!!

    Environmentally you do get a bit of a pass for not having kids...

    Kids and dogs are worse than SUVs.
    We'll have sustainability meetings at work (well, back when we could actually have meetings!) and we all sit there trying to stay awake. We all have trucks, muscle cars, boats, and other gas hog toys.

    And my sticker says 19 mpg combined. 17 city and 22 highway

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    Cars always get pointed at but old coal powered power stations in the US are a much bigger issue. Plus you could argue if you buy then all you can only drive one at a time so you are preventing others.

    I'm driving an old 3.5 litre 300HP BMW but by not renewing my car every 3 years like many other people who do these rental deals is that really so much worse?

    The UK has halved emissions since the 1990s by getting rid of coal power stations and I think that is the real reason that the US is the worst or second worst in the world - not a fact you hear often enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    16mpg!

    FFS man!!
    I can get 14 MPG if I try hard enough

    I got a '05 Silverado 2wd a few months ago, it also gets 14 mpg but it's got a larger gas tank and has better range. Oh, and that's #8. A GM product. I don't park it in my driveway.

    I tore the passenger side fender off the Gladiator at the offroad park a few weeks ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    meh.

    I bought a Gladiator Rubicon a month ago.
    No offense, The people who buy 'Willy's' type Jeeps love them and despite how awful they actually are the resale value reflects that. But sorry dude the Gladiator pickup is just an abortion. It's the worst mid-sized pickup by all accounts and Jeep/Chrysler fucktards really fucked this one up bad! The old Jeep Comanche pickup is sort of cool.


    They should have just an updated version of that but of course Chrysler is to the old AMC they assimilated as a monkey (pox) is to a football it is fucking. Just ruin everything....

    They had to make the 'Wrangler' a pickup for the sheep. Sorry but Jesus fucking christ it's just bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Cars always get pointed at but old coal powered power stations in the US are a much bigger issue. Plus you could argue if you buy then all you can only drive one at a time so you are preventing others.

    I'm driving an old 3.5 litre 300HP BMW but by not renewing my car every 3 years like many other people who do these rental deals is that really so much worse?

    The UK has halved emissions since the 1990s by getting rid of coal power stations and I think that is the real reason that the US is the worst or second worst in the world - not a fact you hear often enough.
    The UK is one of the shittiest emissions country's regarding cars historically so I wouldn't preach to much. The only thing that keeps you in check is the high gas prices that we're sort of seeing here for the time being...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No offense, The people who buy 'Willy's' type Jeeps love them and despite how awful they actually are the resale value reflects that. But sorry dude the Gladiator pickup is just an abortion. It's the worst mid-sized pickup by all accounts and Jeep/Chrysler fucktards really fucked this one up bad! The old Jeep Comanche pickup is sort of cool.


    They should have just an updated version of that but of course Chrysler is to the old AMC they assimilated as a monkey (pox) is to a football it is fucking. Just ruin everything....

    They had to make the 'Wrangler' a pickup for the sheep. Sorry but Jesus fucking christ it's just bad...
    Except that's not a Comanche that's a full size J truck, J10 or J20. And I have one of those, too! '87 J20. My brother has a '79 J10 short bed. Both with AMC 360s. Comanche was based on the XJ Cherokee, unibody with a short frame under the bed.

    I wheel my Gladiator. I drive my 300 Hemi C to the mall. Before I broke the fender...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The UK is one of the shittiest emissions country's regarding cars historically so I wouldn't preach to much. The only thing that keeps you in check is the high gas prices that we're sort of seeing here for the time being...
    All the smoke from the Lucas electrics going into the atmosphere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    No offense, The people who buy 'Willy's' type Jeeps love them and despite how awful they actually are
    That's funny.

    I rarely fill out surveys. I got one from Jeep and I filled it out. I got an email a few weeks later asking if I'd like to be on the Jeep advisory panel. I signed up, we'll see what happens. I don't expect them to go back to everything being solid front axle, if they have to sell more of the "sissy trucks" (car platform Jeeps) to keep Wrangler and Gladiator SFA then I'm okay with it. I am slightly less concerned about electrification across the model range. I don't see how one will charge their rig while overlanding, but whatever. Most of these don't see dirt anyways.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Gladiator doesn't make it to a second generation. I guess they don't sell that well. I didn't really need it when I bought it, but with the shortages etc I'm glad I bought it when I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    Except that's not a Comanche that's a full size J truck, J10 or J20. And I have one of those, too! '87 J20. My brother has a '79 J10 short bed. Both with AMC 360s. Comanche was based on the XJ Cherokee, unibody with a short frame under the bed.

    I wheel my Gladiator. I drive my 300 Hemi C to the mall. Before I broke the fender...


    I have to admit as a "liberal" who drives fuel efficient cars (well, soon not really) seeing a classic J10/20 in good shape makes my balls tense up and while it was full size, today it's probably about the size of a newer Ranger or Colorado...

    Sell me yours!!!!

    As far as the Bronco, Ford seems to have a severe quality control issue going on, quality is "problem 1":

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-ford...-1-11659758404
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    Mine needs work, again. Cab coming apart and the bed isn't in good shape. In early spring I was close to making a decision on what project to take on and got sidetracked. Should be all clear now, still trying to decide though.

    I've had so many offers on that truck. My nephew will end up with it. '87 was the last year for J trucks, a little more rare than my SRT-6 but more people stop to talk about the truck than the SRT.

    It wasn't full size back then, either. My dad said a comparable Chevy or Ford could fit four across on a bench seat in a pinch, that wasn't happening in the J trucks or Grand Wagoneers. I have a tonneau cover from a first gen Dakota on mine, the bed dimensions are within an inch of each other but the Jeep trucks look so much bigger.

    Ford couldn't afford to fuck up the Bronco launch and they did. Issues with the hard tops delaminating, continuing EcoBoost problems, weak front end parts...if they're trying to match the perceived lack of Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis quality, they're doing a good job. I've been back and forth to Toledo a couple times a week for the last six months and I see way more Wranglers and Gladiators in transport than I do Broncos.

    My uncle and cousin restored a few early Broncos. Last summer my cousin bought a 392 Wrangler. I asked him if he would have gotten a Bronco if they put a V8 in it and he said he would have. Don't think I'm not thinking about one of those, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    All the smoke from the Lucas electrics going into the atmosphere...
    As a former Land Rover and Jaguar owner this cracked me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    As far as the Bronco, Ford seems to have a severe quality control issue going on, quality is "problem 1":
    *Yawn*


    When America can build a car worth a shit let me know
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Though at least it's a more authentic update of the original 70's Bronco design than the oversized behemoth version of the 1980s.




    I could actually see myself driving one of these... but not that goddamned ugly mustard yellow color....
    Looks like a Matchbox replica of a Hot Wheels replica of a Matchbox replica of a car. That piece of shit looks more disposable than a Republican politician. It's like the hipster short bus for yuppie retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    *Yawn*


    When America can build a car worth a shit let me know
    We did build some cars. But we don't build cars much at all! It's all SUV crap now. I'm thinkin' Lincoln now but you won't even be able to buy their new sedan in the US...

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