Can this country survive another 4 years of the Orange Imbecile?

[Nitro Express]

I think the Democratic party has been traditionally popular with black Americans... Biden's just been rotting in the bottom of that popular barrel for 40+ years.

Also didn't feel Pence was much of a weighting factor in 2016 to shift the interest Trump brought on his own. Definitely nowhere near what's riding on Harris to prop up Biden's appeal...

Lyndon Johnson said he could keep the blacks voting Democrat for the next 30 years by using the welfare system. He was correct but today more blacks are educated and more own their own businesses and the world has changed. In many ways both parties are dinosaurs full of lifetime politicians and lots of corruption. Currently there is a populist movement going on and what's fueling it is the people who don't work for the government and the people who didn't benefit from having industry outsourced. The Democrat Party's bread and butter for years was unions and government employees. But with the outsourcing unions aren't what they used to be. So what's left is government employees and people who want socialism. So the Democrat Party has moved left. Too far left for people who own their own businesses or are more independently minded so the Republican Party has been the go to place out of default because there is no other place to go.

in the past there really wasn't that much difference in the Republican or Democrat Parties. You had religious people in both. Both seemed to view our constitution as essential. How they sold themselves differed. You did get more social welfare from the Democrats and that became a bigger part of their agenda but now they have migrated really far left to where a lot of people who called themselves Democrats no longer relate to what they are. If you shift too far one way or the other you lose the middle.

People usually don't vote for a candidate. They vote against a candidate. Trump won by default.

[Funkmonkey]

Lyndon Johnson said he could keep the blacks voting Democrat for the next 30 years by using the welfare system. He was correct but today more blacks are educated and more own their own businesses and the world has changed. In many ways both parties are dinosaurs full of lifetime politicians and lots of corruption. Currently there is a populist movement going on and what's fueling it is the people who don't work for the government and the people who didn't benefit from having industry outsourced. The Democrat Party's bread and butter for years was unions and government employees. But with the outsourcing unions aren't what they used to be. So what's left is government employees and people who want socialism. So the Democrat Party has moved left. Too far left for people who own their own businesses or are more independently minded so the Republican Party has been the go to place out of default because there is no other place to go.

in the past there really wasn't that much difference in the Republican or Democrat Parties. You had religious people in both. Both seemed to view our constitution as essential. How they sold themselves differed. You did get more social welfare from the Democrats and that became a bigger part of their agenda but now they have migrated really far left to where a lot of people who called themselves Democrats no longer relate to what they are. If you shift too far one way or the other you lose the middle.

People usually don't vote for a candidate. They vote against a candidate. Trump won by default.

LBJ was absolutely right. In fact, his plan lasted a few more decades later and capitalizes on human desire to receive something for free.

[Seshmeister]

Seems to me the Democrats are following the Republicans to the right. Where they are at the moment they would be conservatives in most other western countries. The conservative government in Germany just announced a 2 year furlough today, they have a good medical system and they are doing a hell of a lot better than the US and the UK in this crisis.

Also what's with your 'the blacks' way of talking - you sound like a white South African from the 1980s...

[Nitro Express]

Seems to me the Democrats are following the Republicans to the right. Where they are at the moment they would be conservatives in most other western countries. The conservative government in Germany just announced a 2 year furlough today, they have a good medical system and they are doing a hell of a lot better than the US and the UK in this crisis.

Also what's with your 'the blacks' way of talking - you sound like a white South African from the 1980s...

Ha! Ha! If you think New York, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and LA are more conservative now you are confused. Ah nice attempted racist slag on me but what else do you call a group of people who seem to prefer being called black? Black Lives Matter? Naw if I was a racist I would have used the N word.

[FORD]

Have to agree with this. i have watched both nights of this convention so far, and Bernie Sanders is the ONLY speaker who has talked about fucking policies and the direction this country should go. AOC made general mention of the direction, but they only gave her 60 seconds, so she didn't have time for details.

Other than that, it's been a whole lot of bullshit about how Joe's a nice guy with personal empathy. That may be true, but it damn sure isn't reflected in his actual track record as Senator & VP.

[Nickdfresh]

I think the Democratic party has been traditionally popular with black Americans... Biden's just been rotting in the bottom of that popular barrel for 40+ years.

Also didn't feel Pence was much of a weighting factor in 2016 to shift the interest Trump brought on his own. Definitely nowhere near what's riding on Harris to prop up Biden's appeal...

"Prop up Biden's appeal" from what? Being up 10 points or more in just about every poll? The Democratic Party only became popular with blacks when the Republicans adopted the Dixiecrats positions of nuanced racial hegemony...

[Nickdfresh]

I think Pence is very popular among closeted homosexual evangelical racists with mommy issues.

It's a bigger demographic than you might think...

IDK if he's really a closet homo or not, but he definitely had the safe, pasty-white mid-Western white guy appeal that Trump was pandering too...

[Nickdfresh]

Lyndon Johnson said he could keep the blacks voting Democrat for the next 30 years by using the welfare system....

When did he say that?

It just sounds like a racist trope, especially since LBJ, for all his failings, was fighting poverty everywhere including white Appalachia, not for welfare...

[Nickdfresh]

LBJ was absolutely right. In fact, his plan lasted a few more decades later and capitalizes on human desire to receive something for free.

You're getting a bit fucking borderline with the white racist stereotypes...this is a website dedicated to a Jewish singer who was black that was trapped in the whiteman's body, not fucking alti-right Stormfront world...

[Nickdfresh]

Ha! Ha! If you think New York, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and LA are more conservative now you are confused. Ah nice attempted racist slag on me but what else do you call a group of people who seem to prefer being called black? Black Lives Matter? Naw if I was a racist I would have used the N word.

These are cookie cutter districts neatly sliced delicately around the gerrymandered inner cities vs. the suburbs and deprived of the tax bases they inflate with their proximity to trade and infrastructure. Most of the whites I know and hang out with in the city are moderate leftists and earn pretty good chunks of change. But compare the funding of an urban Chicago school compared to its suburban counterpart, and that's where the racism begins. But in any case, at least the those blacks cookie-cuttered into marginalized voting districts are smart enough to vote for their self interests, unlike their working class white counterparts in the 'burbs. It's the reason why the Republican party is transitioning to the party of opposition, because whites in the suburbs are increasingly fleeing it and becoming Democrats, it's the reason as Sesh and Ford say that the Democrats are more or less center-left-to-center-right and the Republicans are uneducated blue collar fucktards voting for the interests of the top-1% plutocratic interests. But it is changing, that's why Trump fears mail in voting and they undertake massive voter suppression efforts that are becoming more and more unsuccessful, because the Republican Party only represents the interests of a very small subset of rich whites...

[Nickdfresh]

IDK if he's really a closet homo or not, but he definitely had the safe, pasty-white mid-Western white guy appeal that Trump was pandering too...

I should add also a servile bootlicking pussy that will never challange his fat, orange overlord, which is why he was hired...

[FORD]

IDK if he's really a closet homo or not...

Only Dr. Quest knows for sure.

[Funkmonkey]

Quote Originally Posted by Funkmonkey View Post
LBJ was absolutely right. In fact, his plan lasted a few more decades later and capitalizes on human desire to receive something for free.

You're getting a bit fucking borderline with the white racist stereotypes...this is a website dedicated to a Jewish singer who was black that was trapped in the whiteman's body, not fucking alti-right Stormfront world...

Nope. I was talking about LBJ.

[Funkmonkey]

Only Dr. Quest knows for sure.

Oooh, you can just sense the love between those two men. grr grr Oh, do behave!

[Seshmeister]

Have to agree with this. i have watched both nights of this convention so far, and Bernie Sanders is the ONLY speaker who has talked about fucking policies and the direction this country should go.

He also said you really really need to vote for Biden or you are fucked.