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  • Funkmonkey
    Head Fluffer
    • Jan 2004
    • 399

    #16
    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Because the Navy was hoping it would capsize and sink...
    To me, it's definitely a testament of competence and the sheer size of the shipyard engineer's balls to successfully launch that way. I'm sure every angle was calculated a million times to ensure that launch smoothly as planned without a hitch. if it did sink, I imagine the hull could be raised and salvaged without it being a total $362 million dollar loss. But Marinette Marine would take a crippling hit in loss of business. And to rebuild their reputation to get even a row boat contract from the DOD, it will take an entire Madison Avenue marketing company and dedicated fluffer chicks marched into the Secretary of Defense's office 24/7 for several years. OR a very generous campaign donation to House Armed Services Chairman Adam Smith and Senate Armed Services Chair James Inhofe, and the problem goes away pretty quickly.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49136

      #17
      Originally posted by Funkmonkey
      To me, it's definitely a testament of competence and the sheer size of the shipyard engineer's balls to successfully launch that way. I'm sure every angle was calculated a million times to ensure that launch smoothly as planned without a hitch. if it did sink, I imagine the hull could be raised and salvaged without it being a total $362 million dollar loss. But Marinette Marine would take a crippling hit in loss of business. And to rebuild their reputation to get even a row boat contract from the DOD, it will take an entire Madison Avenue marketing company and dedicated fluffer chicks marched into the Secretary of Defense's office 24/7 for several years. OR a very generous campaign donation to House Armed Services Chairman Adam Smith and Senate Armed Services Chair James Inhofe, and the problem goes away pretty quickly.
      Yeah but the US Navy seems to hate the Littorals, I imaging they say the "littoral navy, isn't that the Coast Guard"? Mainly because it doesn't fit into their carrier and missile cruiser fleet. But hey, I saw the USS Little Rock chrisinted, she's a beaut...

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      • Funkmonkey
        Head Fluffer
        • Jan 2004
        • 399

        #18
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Yeah but the US Navy seems to hate the Littorals, I imaging they say the "littoral navy, isn't that the Coast Guard"? Mainly because it doesn't fit into their carrier and missile cruiser fleet. But hey, I saw the USS Little Rock chrisinted, she's a beaut...
        That would be exciting watching a Navy ship christening. Did the USS Little Rock enter the water sideways, too?

        I don't know about the Navy hating littoral ships. The Navy has taken delivery of 22 littoral ships so far, and the LCS is now the second-largest U.S. Navy surface ship in production.

        The littoral combat ships were designed to be fast, agile and serve as a networked surface combatant.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35160

          #19
          The fact there have been so many ordered doesn't mean the navy wants them particularly since the system is about politicians ordering shit no one needs and in return the defence corporations provide tax funded jobs in their areas plus campaign contributions to the politicians.

          It's like socialism except instead of looking after people when they are sick or educating them instead the tax payers money makes a few people rich and means that the US needs a constant stream of conflicts to justify the system.

          I'm not saying this is a Trump thing BTW. https://www.military.com/daily-news/...esnt-want.html

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          • Funkmonkey
            Head Fluffer
            • Jan 2004
            • 399

            #20
            It never ceases to amaze me how ruthless and brutal nature is.

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            • Funkmonkey
              Head Fluffer
              • Jan 2004
              • 399

              #21
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              The fact there have been so many ordered doesn't mean the navy wants them particularly since the system is about politicians ordering shit no one needs and in return the defence corporations provide tax funded jobs in their areas plus campaign contributions to the politicians.

              It's like socialism except instead of looking after people when they are sick or educating them instead the tax payers money makes a few people rich and means that the US needs a constant stream of conflicts to justify the system.

              I'm not saying this is a Trump thing BTW. https://www.military.com/daily-news/...esnt-want.html

              That's amazing about Abrams tanks and the Army not wanting them. I wonder if that has to do with current wars the US is engaged in are more urban and close in warfare like in the middle east rather than open battlefields 70 or 80 years ago. Per the article, I also wonder how much of it was Rep. Mike Turner protecting his job, how much of it is the Secretary of Defense or DOD wanting to make sure the US still has the capability to manufacture tanks, and how much of it is organizations like NSA or DIA believe outsourcing tank production could transfer sensitive or classified information.

              I did a little checking around and discovered the US Navy has been reducing their requirements for littoral combat ships in favor of more F-35's, Virginia-class submarines, Super Hornets, and guided missile frigates. They've even asked for more Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. That's amazing; thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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              • Funkmonkey
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                • Jan 2004
                • 399

                #22
                What's also amazing is parental infanticide in birds. The parent somehow decides, "Welp, you're just not up to standards. You gotta go..."

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49136

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Funkmonkey
                  That would be exciting watching a Navy ship christening. Did the USS Little Rock enter the water sideways, too?

                  I don't know about the Navy hating littoral ships. The Navy has taken delivery of 22 littoral ships so far, and the LCS is now the second-largest U.S. Navy surface ship in production.

                  The littoral combat ships were designed to be fast, agile and serve as a networked surface combatant.

                  https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...-better-162461
                  It was but it was christened in Buffalo on Lake Erie because it's namesake, a WWII vintage cruiser, is anchored at the Naval Park...

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49136

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    The fact there have been so many ordered doesn't mean the navy wants them particularly since the system is about politicians ordering shit no one needs and in return the defence corporations provide tax funded jobs in their areas plus campaign contributions to the politicians.

                    It's like socialism except instead of looking after people when they are sick or educating them instead the tax payers money makes a few people rich and means that the US needs a constant stream of conflicts to justify the system.

                    I'm not saying this is a Trump thing BTW. https://www.military.com/daily-news/...esnt-want.html
                    Yeah, the litorals were for the War on Terra'...but they seem to be not capable of much of anything...

                    They'd been better off building better, more capable Coast Guard cutters...
                    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-20-2020, 08:21 AM.

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                    • Funkmonkey
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 399

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      It was but it was christened in Buffalo on Lake Erie because it's namesake, a WWII vintage cruiser, is anchored at the Naval Park...
                      Interesting. I was originally thinking Arkansas when I saw Little Rock. I found video of the christening.

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                      • Funkmonkey
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 399

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        Yeah, the litorals were for the War on Terra'...but they seem to be not capable of much of anything...

                        They'd been better off building better, more capable Coast Guard cutters...
                        Just put some Death Star blasters on them and they'll be badass.

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                        • Funkmonkey
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 399

                          #27
                          i did some checking around and it's actually illegal to photograph or make videos of the Eiffel Tower at night without permission because the light show is still copyrighted. The Tower itself is public domain but the light show apparently still maintains a copyright since 1985. Of course, the devil is in the details, no one has been sued yet, so French courts have not ruled on something like this as of now. Can you imagine what it would cost to send cease and desist letters to millions of tourists? But I can't remember seeing a Hollywood movie that contains a scene of the Eiffel Tower light show to challenge the copyright. Copyright law amazes me. I also discovered 3M's patent on Post-It Notes ran out in 1997 but they also have a copyright on the shape/size/color/name of the notes which curtails competitors from making an exact duplicate of the sticky note. Unlike the Tower, 3M regularly enforces their copyright by suing infringers.




                          Here's an illegal video of the Eiffel Tower light show.



                          Paris looks magical.
                          Last edited by Funkmonkey; 08-20-2020, 12:58 PM.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49136

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Funkmonkey
                            Interesting. I was originally thinking Arkansas when I saw Little Rock. I found video of the christening.

                            Commissioning actually...

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35160

                              #29
                              If it's surprising naval facts you are after how about the Canadian navy?

                              At the start of WWII in 1939 the Canadian navy had only 6 ships. By the end in 1945 it had one of the largest navies in the world with 95,000 personnel and 434 ships.

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                              • Funkmonkey
                                Head Fluffer
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 399

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                                If it's surprising naval facts you are after how about the Canadian navy?

                                At the start of WWII in 1939 the Canadian navy had only 6 ships. By the end in 1945 it had one of the largest navies in the world with 95,000 personnel and 434 ships.
                                That's quite an impressive build-up of arms. Does that include submarines and aircraft carriers? We're the ships all built in Canada or did they outsource any of the construction?

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