Eddie Van Halen RIP

**Seshmeister** · 10-06-2021, 08:07 PM

Nice dressing room.

**FORD** · 10-06-2021, 08:17 PM

This is the first and last time I will ever post a VDIII song.... but since it's literally a year to the day, it seems fitting somehow.....

**ELVIS** · 10-06-2021, 08:28 PM

Not to me...

**FORD** · 10-06-2021, 08:30 PM

Just skip over the Cherone part and go right to Eddie's solo. It's better that way.

**Seshmeister** · 10-06-2021, 09:34 PM

I've still never watched that after all these years.

**Terry** · 10-06-2021, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Seshmeister

I've still never watched that after all these years.

To me, it honestly wasn't any worse than when Hagar fronted the group.

Van Halen III had a few good riffs and ideas. The material just came across like it wasn't fully realized. That and Eddie producing...the album just plain SOUNDED terrible. And Eddie clearly was clearly at his best when he had a strong producer to push him and tell him when a tune might need more work, or some rearrangement.

**ELVIS** · 10-06-2021, 10:23 PM

It's a garbage album and proof that Ed would have lived and died in total obscurity without Dave...

As good as Edward was, guitar players are a dime a dozen and that album is proof...

**Kristy** · 10-07-2021, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Terry

To me, it honestly wasn't any worse than when Hagar fronted the group.

Van Halen III had a few good riffs and ideas. The material just came across like it wasn't fully realized. That and Eddie producing...the album just plain SOUNDED terrible. And Eddie clearly was clearly at his best when he had a strong producer to push him and tell him when a tune might need more work, or some rearrangement.

Eddie must have had a lot of clout when Van Halen resigned to Warner Brothers for their new Spinal Tap Blues/Jazz festival edition. There must have been suits who were against allowing Eddie to produce when it was clear he had no direction and talent in doing so. During the S P A M M Y years Mick Jones was brought in because he knew how to organize a commercial ballad, Bruce Fairbairn knew how make metal bland and even more commercial and eventually they went back to yacht rock Templesuck and his overzealous production skills. Eddie had little experience behind the board and to work with somebody like Hairy Mother Bone who had a vocal range that was as good as it was annoying was mostly due to Eddie didn't want to carry the onus of performing on stage anymore. None of it worked. Never understood why Eddie threw away a successful multi-million dollar business on a hunch - not that S P A M M Y had also destroyed it from within as well.

**GreenBayLA** · 10-07-2021, 03:07 PM

Hard to believe it's been a year already. When I broke the news here I was in a bit of shock and just gave a reporters' perspective. Reflecting now I still have mixed feelings about EVH the man but he is the greatest guitar player of his generation and beyond. Thanks Edward!

**Terry** · 10-07-2021, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Kristy

Eddie must have had a lot of clout when Van Halen resigned to Warner Brothers for their new Spinal Tap Blues/Jazz festival edition. There must have been suits who were against allowing Eddie to produce when it was clear he had no direction and talent in doing so. During the S P A M M Y years Mick Jones was brought in because he knew how to organize a commercial ballad, Bruce Fairbairn knew how make metal bland and even more commercial and eventually they went back to yacht rock Templesuck and his overzealous production skills. Eddie had little experience behind the board and to work with somebody like Hairy Mother Bone who had a vocal range that was as good as it was annoying was mostly due to Eddie didn't want to carry the onus of performing on stage anymore. None of it worked. Never understood why Eddie threw away a successful multi-million dollar business on a hunch - not that S P A M M Y had also destroyed it from within as well.

Well, at least with Templeman and Fairbairn, the records were listenable in terms of the production, unlike Van Halen III...which sounded like a bunch of rough demos...

Yeah, it's still hard to believe that someone with clout/pull at WB didn't listen to the final mixes presented for Van Halen III and say that the stuff wasn't nearly good enough to consider releasing. I dunno if by the 1990s Van Halen had a deal with WB that allowed them to hand in an album without any record company input...maybe WB thought that Van Halen COULD make a go of it with Cherone and have it be successful...it wasn't a surprise after the Van Halen III period ended that WB dropped Van Halen.

**ELVIS** · 10-07-2021, 09:23 PM

The first time I listened to VDIII all the way through was a little over year ago while sitting by a campfire...

While reflecting on Edward's passing, it was nice to hear some of the neat guitar work he did...

But the album totally, totally sucks and I was dreaming of how Dave could have brought some of it to life...

Ah well...

**Nickdfresh** · 10-07-2021, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by ELVIS

The first time I listened to VDIII all the way through was a little over year ago while sitting by a campfire...

While reflecting on Edward's passing, it was nice to hear some of the neat guitar work he did...

But the album totally, totally sucks and I was dreaming of how Dave could have brought some of it to life...

Ah well...

Did you throw it on the campfire?

**ELVIS** · 10-07-2021, 09:30 PM

No, it was youtube...

**Seshmeister** · 10-08-2021, 10:24 AM

**Kristy** · 10-08-2021, 01:21 PM

Eh, that kind of sucked. Commentary from S P A M M Y and The Nudge ruined it for me - oh, and that dickhead from Sucktallica. That "tribute's" only saving grace? No fucking Dave Grohl.